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Bloodychess 05/02/18 1:00:38 PM #101: |
Squall28 posted...
Imagine getting triggered when an organization decides to be more inclusive. People seem to be more triggered over that organizations counterpart not following suit --- To err is human To arr is pirate ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCoasterOreo 05/02/18 1:18:15 PM #102: |
Bloodychess posted...
Squall28 posted...Imagine getting triggered when an organization decides to be more inclusive. Imagine still using "triggered" unironically in the year of Our Lord 2018 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Complete_Idi0t 05/02/18 1:24:50 PM #104: |
Call me when they have a plan to include gay people
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Bloodychess 05/02/18 1:25:03 PM #105: |
KingCoasterOreo posted...
Bloodychess posted...Squall28 posted...Imagine getting triggered when an organization decides to be more inclusive. --- To err is human To arr is pirate ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Capn Circus 05/02/18 1:33:49 PM #106: |
So boy scouts can't be called boy scouts anymore and have to allow girls in ---- but boys can't join girl scouts and it's still called girl scouts?
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ImTheMacheteGuy 05/02/18 1:34:35 PM #107: |
Meh. I don't care about any of this.
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DesuDeku 05/02/18 1:38:06 PM #108: |
ghettoraider81 posted...
Better start letting boys into the Girl Scouts now. Boys want to sell cookies too. Is selling cookies really the only thing Girl Scouts do? Why not just let them do camping stuff and all the other things Boy Scouts do? They don't have to join the boys to do that. --- Believe in yourself! https://i.imgur.com/UB9dwaa.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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philsov 05/02/18 1:41:22 PM #109: |
Complete_Idi0t posted...
Call me when they have a plan to include gay people gay youths have been welcome for a few years, and gay adults were also allowed in a yearish after that. Still no love for hardcore atheists, but the BSA is (officially) so broad with regards to the definition of god that it allows for effective agnostics. Capn Circus posted... So boy scouts can't be called boy scouts anymore and have to allow girls in ---- but boys can't join girl scouts and it's still called girl scouts? Two different organizations, for starters. Girl scouts sucks anyways. It'll dwindle and die in a decade or two, and less net overhead for the BSA this way. --- Remember that I won't rest, 'til we share the same tense Just know, to me, you're better late than never again. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gheb 05/02/18 1:42:26 PM #110: |
Capn Circus posted...
So boy scouts can't be called boy scouts anymore and have to allow girls in ---- but boys can't join girl scouts and it's still called girl scouts? Gheb posted... I'd agree if Boy Scouts was related to Girls Scouts in anyway whatsoever besides having similar sounding names. Nobody is making either organization do anything. The BSA decided on their own to let girls in. Nobody told the Boy Scouts to let girls in but then said it was okay for the Girl Scouts to not let boys in. The Girl Scouts are more upset about the Boy Scouts letting girls join than anyone in this thread is. It could very likely kill their organization. --- S*** I have to stop doing that," Gheb said, as he lay back down and died again. - Forgotten Love Chiefs are going to win the Super Bowl ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sariana21 05/02/18 1:46:15 PM #111: |
DesuDeku posted...
ghettoraider81 posted...Better start letting boys into the Girl Scouts now. Boys want to sell cookies too. Of course not. We have camping and hiking and other outdoor badges. We also have STEM and environmental badges. And any troop is welcome to design its own badge around whatever activity its girls want to do (unlike the BS, who are much stricter about requirements). We also have "artsy" badges and activities that are more traditionally "girly," which is fine. My girls LIKE those things. --- ___ Sari, Mom to DS (07/04) and DD (01/08) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Capn Circus 05/02/18 1:48:31 PM #112: |
Gheb posted...
Capn Circus posted...So boy scouts can't be called boy scouts anymore and have to allow girls in ---- but boys can't join girl scouts and it's still called girl scouts? That's fine. Whoever decided this has major issues. There is already a girl scouts. --- "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingCoasterOreo 05/02/18 1:48:33 PM #113: |
Bloodychess posted...
? What. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DesuDeku 05/02/18 1:51:04 PM #114: |
Sariana21 posted...
DesuDeku posted...ghettoraider81 posted...Better start letting boys into the Girl Scouts now. Boys want to sell cookies too. That sounds pretty fun, but what's the major difference between the two scouts?(Besides gender) --- Believe in yourself! https://i.imgur.com/UB9dwaa.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gheb 05/02/18 2:05:24 PM #115: |
Capn Circus posted...
That's fine. Whoever decided this has major issues. There is already a girl scouts. You know what the major issue here is? It's not bowing the will of the left. It isn't becoming more inclusive. It isn't trying to give girls the opportunity to be involved in Boy Scout activities. The issue is something much more simple. Money. Boy Scout membership has been dropping for years now. It's just not something kids are as interested in anymore. Maybe it's because more sports opportunities are available. Maybe it's because schools are offering a more diverse selection of organizations to join. Maybe it's because our increased focused on technology has made outdoor focused activities less desirable. It's probably a combination of a lot of things, but regardless, membership is down. Which means its making less money. The BSA is trying to do what it can to stay financially solvent. Do you know one good way of increasing your membership? Opening it up to the other 50% of the population? So that's what they are doing. Like the alternative here is that the Boy Scouts just stop existing after awhile. Then there is even less space for boys only stuff. I really enjoyed my 12 years in the Boy Scouts. I learned a lot, had a lot of fun, and made a lot of friends. If I have a son in the future, I'd much rather him be a part of a Co-Ed Scouts than no Scouts at all because they went bankrupt. --- S*** I have to stop doing that," Gheb said, as he lay back down and died again. - Forgotten Love Chiefs are going to win the Super Bowl ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 05/02/18 2:07:14 PM #116: |
Gheb posted...
Boy Scout membership has been dropping for years now. It's just not something kids are as interested in anymore. Maybe it's because more sports opportunities are available. Maybe it's because schools are offering a more diverse selection of organizations to join. Maybe it's because our increased focused on technology has made outdoor focused activities less desirable. It's probably a combination of a lot of things, but regardless, membership is down. Which means its making less money. The BSA is trying to do what it can to stay financially solvent. Do you know one good way of increasing your membership? Opening it up to the other 50% of the population? So that's what they are doing. I say we blame videogames. The first time I got yelled at for bringing a Gamboy on a campout, I realized where my priorities really were. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gheb 05/02/18 2:11:08 PM #117: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
I say we blame videogames. Oh, video games are definitely part of it. Because yeah, I totally smuggled Gameboys/DS/etc onto camp-outs. That said, I can't even imagine what it's like now with smart phones. Nobody wants to spend a weekend away from their cell-phone. I don't. I definitely can't imagine a teenager does. --- S*** I have to stop doing that," Gheb said, as he lay back down and died again. - Forgotten Love Chiefs are going to win the Super Bowl ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sariana21 05/02/18 2:13:22 PM #118: |
DesuDeku posted...
Sariana21 posted...DesuDeku posted...ghettoraider81 posted...Better start letting boys into the Girl Scouts now. Boys want to sell cookies too. Organizational structure. I posted about it earlier. --- ___ Sari, Mom to DS (07/04) and DD (01/08) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 05/02/18 2:16:10 PM #119: |
Gheb posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...And if you got crotchety old leaders who are still "this is about nature dammit!" and confiscating everyone's phones (or something), don't be surprised if the turnout is way the hell lower next time.I say we blame videogames. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Barenziah Boy Toy 05/02/18 2:47:36 PM #120: |
Eat More Beef posted...
This. Also, why is it just Boy Scouts that have to be accepting of both genders? Because BSA wants more membership. If an organization truly wants to create a male safe space, then they are more than free to do so. --- You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard {Self-Hating Token Asian of the Ivory Tower's Zionist Elite} ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Barenziah Boy Toy 05/02/18 2:49:08 PM #121: |
Capn Circus posted...
That's fine. Whoever decided this has major issues. There is already a girl scouts. Girl Scouts do a lot of the artsy, 'girly' things that 95% of boys don't want to do. --- You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard {Self-Hating Token Asian of the Ivory Tower's Zionist Elite} ... Copied to Clipboard!
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spikethedevil 05/02/18 3:22:57 PM #122: |
In the UK we have Guides (Girl Scouts) and Scouts, girls have been allowed into the Scouts since the 70s. That's how far behind the US is... There is a reason the rest of the first world thinks of the US as being arse backwards.
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addled 05/02/18 3:26:57 PM #123: |
Will Girl Scouts still sell cookies? I need my Thin Mints.
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Bloodychess 05/02/18 3:28:08 PM #124: |
spikethedevil posted...
In the UK I'm so sorry for you --- To err is human To arr is pirate ... Copied to Clipboard!
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spikethedevil 05/02/18 3:31:18 PM #125: |
Bloodychess posted...
spikethedevil posted...In the UK Rather live here than the US tbh. --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solid Snake07 05/02/18 3:42:33 PM #126: |
Sounds silly, but at the same time I don't really care.
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Gheb 05/02/18 3:45:18 PM #127: |
spikethedevil posted...
In the UK we have Guides (Girl Scouts) and Scouts, girls have been allowed into the Scouts since the 70s. That's how far behind the US is... There is a reason the rest of the first world thinks of the US as being arse backwards. It's less that they are behind and more that your Boy Scouts ran into the same membership issues that the Boy Scouts of America are now running into earlier. Don't mix up economic feasibility with progressiveness. If it was purely about a society's progress, your Guides would also be integrated. --- S*** I have to stop doing that," Gheb said, as he lay back down and died again. - Forgotten Love Chiefs are going to win the Super Bowl ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 05/02/18 3:47:44 PM #128: |
spikethedevil posted...
In the UK we have Guides (Girl Scouts) and Scouts, girls have been allowed into the Scouts since the 70s. That's how far behind the US is... There is a reason the rest of the first world thinks of the US as being arse backwards. Are boys allowed into the Guides? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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spikethedevil 05/02/18 3:48:19 PM #129: |
Nope.
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Questionmarktarius 05/02/18 3:49:58 PM #130: |
spikethedevil posted...
Nope. Thus: Questionmarktarius posted... Were I just a bit more cynical, i'd suggest that it's the same old demands for inclusion while retaining their own little safe spaces. Or... why the hell not? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tennisdude818 05/02/18 6:19:39 PM #131: |
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Gheb 05/02/18 6:39:13 PM #132: |
tennisdude818 posted...
I do feel bad for the Girl Scouts. They are a perfectly fine organization that does good work. But it's name and societies greater familiarity with Boy Scouts puts a lot of expectations on what they do or should be doing that they have to live with. And Scouts going co-ed is going to hurt membership. I know girls who went into Girl Scouts wanting a more Boy Scout experience, but stuck with it because it was the best they were going to get. They now have an true Boy Scout experience they can join. --- S*** I have to stop doing that," Gheb said, as he lay back down and died again. - Forgotten Love Chiefs are going to win the Super Bowl ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darkman124 05/02/18 6:40:25 PM #133: |
i was a boy scout 15 years ago and even back then we had girls attending our trips through some explorers program or whatever
my main concern is why they're calling it scouts BSA and not just scouts --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheVipaGTS 05/02/18 6:40:25 PM #134: |
Imagine being upset about this.
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BillyKidd 05/02/18 6:41:28 PM #135: |
it was at this moment, the girl scouts had bigger balls than the boy scouts.
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Gheb 05/02/18 6:41:50 PM #136: |
Darkman124 posted...
i was a boy scout 15 years ago and even back then we had girls attending our trips through some explorers program or whatever Because they want to keep some of the historical name. Personally, I'm not a big fan it. Scouts USA or Scouts of America would both work better. --- S*** I have to stop doing that," Gheb said, as he lay back down and died again. - Forgotten Love Chiefs are going to win the Super Bowl ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Axiom 05/02/18 6:42:43 PM #137: |
I think Scouts is a better name tbh. Just eliminate girl and boy call them scouts and have them all under one umbrella
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Darkman124 05/02/18 6:43:42 PM #138: |
Gheb posted...
Because they want to keep some of the historical name. Personally, I'm not a big fan it. Scouts USA or Scouts of America would both work better. agree scouts bsa just sounds stupid like what does bsa represent here since it cannot still mean 'boy scouts of america' --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dash_Harber 05/02/18 6:45:01 PM #139: |
I don't get why they don't just merge and pool resources.
Either way, not really sure what the big deal is, anyway. Like, are they afraid women will go camping and gain some rudimentary survival skills, or are they terrified that boys coming into contact with girls will cause them to spontaneously switch genders or something? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gheb 05/02/18 6:45:46 PM #140: |
BillyKidd posted...
it was at this moment, the girl scouts had bigger balls than the boy scouts. What the Girl Scouts have is a mission statement that is so focused on the development and empowerment of women, that they can't change their membership requirements to include boys to stave off declining membership, if they wanted to. Boy Scouts might have had a boys only requirement, but the program was never as focused on the development of and empowerment of the gender like Girl Scouts is. It actually gave them the flexibility to do this. --- S*** I have to stop doing that," Gheb said, as he lay back down and died again. - Forgotten Love Chiefs are going to win the Super Bowl ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Barenziah Boy Toy 05/02/18 7:48:17 PM #141: |
Axiom posted...
I think Scouts is a better name tbh. Just eliminate girl and boy call them scouts and have them all under one umbrella But that would be PC gone HORRIBLY WRONG!! /typical right-wing traditionalist --- You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard {Self-Hating Token Asian of the Ivory Tower's Zionist Elite} ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bad_Mojo 05/02/18 7:49:26 PM #142: |
I think it's a good idea to combine them
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Darmik 05/02/18 7:58:54 PM #143: |
If you want your boy to have some male bonding isn't signing him up for a local sports team a better idea anyway?
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On_The_Edge 05/02/18 8:00:54 PM #144: |
Companies can continue to kowtow to this PC bullshit but they're going to be outcompeted by others who don't. Huge market opportunity for a new boy scouts
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Darmik 05/02/18 8:04:15 PM #145: |
On_The_Edge posted...
Companies can continue to kowtow to this PC bullshit but they're going to be outcompeted by others who don't. Huge market opportunity for a new boy scouts Yes there's nothing stopping another boy scout organization from starting an alternative. Which is what makes this controversy a bit silly. These organizations are doing what they can to stay in business. Boy scouts were lame when I was growing up. Can't imagine how they're perceived in an age where kids have so much stuff available to do. --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkChozoGhost 05/02/18 8:31:52 PM #146: |
I mean, a lot of organizations keep old acronyms that don't mean anything. Like, FFA doesn't still mean Future Farmers of America, but they didn't change the acronym.
Also that would save a shit ton of money keeping old banners and whatnot. --- My sister's dog bit a hole in my Super Mario Land cartridge. It still works though - Skye Reynolds 3DS FC: 3239-5612-0115 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OwlRammer 05/02/18 8:42:51 PM #147: |
I wouldn't mind being a girl scout tbh, I'd be selling the most cookies since I'd be able to buy so many then lmao
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Sariana21 05/02/18 10:18:05 PM #148: |
Lol, I just got back-to-back emails from BSA and GSOC (GS of Orange County), both headlining today's news.
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Vicious_Dios 05/02/18 10:19:20 PM #149: |
ghettoraider81 posted...
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Sayoria 05/02/18 10:24:32 PM #150: |
Make separate branches, allowing for co-ed events. Simple. Girls can go out, camp, do whatever. Boys the same. Some trips where it is workable, make co-ed ones. Doesn't seem too hard.
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