Current Events > Does anyone else not care about police brutality if the suspect is in the wrong?

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zinezinzadan
04/25/18 7:49:43 PM
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Just curious how people on this board feel about the subject. All of my friends agree with me, my family agrees, and everyone at my work agrees...

Bottom line? If you are in the wrong, I could give less of a damn what happens to you. Example: Rob a store and try to run away? Idgaf if you got shot in the middle of a dispute because you refused to show your hands in a calm, slow manner. Another one: I think a couple years ago I saw a video of police asking a man to get down so they can apprehend him. He wouldn't, he kept fighting. Eventually one of the officers started choking him to the ground, and everyone kept screaming police brutality. Well... Had he just done what he was asked, this would have never happened.

The ironic thing is, most of the "bad police" videos I ever see is usually the suspect being in the wrong. I literally mean most of them. I never understood why people keep crying. Look, I am a refugee.. I've gone through things that most of you never will. I grew up homeless for half of my life, I went through the minimum wage phase of working a shitty job.. I also ended up graduating college and making a lot of money.

So if you think that I'm going to feel bad about some mother****er who got the short end of the stick because "they chose" to do something illegal, I just dont give a rats ass. I worked my ass of for an honest living, even when I was at the bottom. So I will never feel bad for scum that choose alternate methods.

Where are people like me? Why is it that no one like me speaks out. The bad police crap has gone on for too long. At the end of the day, you chose to not listen to the cop, YOU CREATED an altercation.

I've been on the bad end with police a couple times when I was in the wrong. What did I do? I shut my ****ing mouth, and I did what I was told, and I got to go home every time. I realize I'm in the wrong, I have no right to give them attitude or any eratic behavior that I witness on these "bad cops" videos.

If I was a cop, and you act like a hooligan, I would be compelled to punch you in the face because I don't have patience for you. YOU made a mistake, and now I'm supposed to waste my time and play games with you lmao? A hundred times I see a cop yell "put your hands where I can see them" and the suspect is fidgeting around.. acting like a fool.. being cool... Just put your damn hands up?? Stop acting like a fool.

Does anyone else feel this way? It's almost like youre asking for trouble because you refuse to comply. And the silly thing is, sometimes it's the dumbest thing. Some guy has a screw driver I believe... They asked him like 6 times to drop the screw driver, instead he was acting like an idiot and saying "why I'm not attacking you" and all that idiotic stuff, and at one moment he started to slide his hand inside his jacket. The cop shot him and killed him, the guy had nothing in his jacket... Why didnt you put the screw driver down when they asked you? Why did you reach or pretend to reach in your jacket when you didnt have a gun? Why are you acting like a moron? HOW IN THE HELL is the cop supposed to know that you didnt have a gun in there? It's sensible to assume the worst when youre playing a game of life vs death. If I was a cop, and I ask you to drop something or show me your hands, and youre acting erratically and your hands go somewhere where a potential weapon might be, I will end your ****ing life no questions asked. Because I'M NOT WILLING TO TAKE A RISK ON MY LIFE IN THE OFF CHANCE that you really did not have a gun under that jacket. **** that, and **** anyone who defends criminals.
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Freddie_Mercury
04/25/18 7:51:29 PM
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zinezinzadan posted...
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eston
04/25/18 7:51:40 PM
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I care because police need to be accountable for their actions. When there is no accountability, you end up with abuse.
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Antifar
04/25/18 7:52:03 PM
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I do not feel this way
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emblem boy
04/25/18 7:52:34 PM
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No, I completely disagree with your point of view
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prince_leo
04/25/18 7:52:46 PM
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eston posted...
I care because police need to be accountable for their actions. When there is no accountability, you end up with abuse.

Antifar posted...
I do not feel this way

emblem boy posted...
No, I completely disagree with your point of view

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hockeybub89
04/25/18 7:52:53 PM
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I mean, anyone that breaks the law is in the wrong. Should we just let cops do whatever they want? This is not a gray area we should create. Should we make our prisons like gulags since they're full of guilty people?
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dreamvoid
04/25/18 7:52:59 PM
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MC_BatCommander
04/25/18 7:53:47 PM
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No, I don't think there is any justified case for brutality, hence why it's called brutality.
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Kazi1212
04/25/18 7:54:14 PM
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Police brutality is itself breaking the law, so I care about it
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hockeybub89
04/25/18 7:54:40 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
No, I don't think there is any justified case for brutality, hence why it's called brutality.

This is like that topic the other day about whether or not everyone should get due process.
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BloodyNate
04/25/18 7:55:10 PM
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No. The person deserves punishment only if a judge/jury decides it (a system that also needs major reform, tbqh). The police should only use force when it is literally the only option available this includes outwaiting a suspect, something cops almost literally never do in the US.
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RoboLaserGandhi
04/25/18 7:56:06 PM
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I certainly think they should behave perfectly but know this is reality, and I don't hold the kind of people who become police officers with very high regard anyway.

But I especially don't think entire riots should happen over the deaths of legitimate piece of shit criminals who experienced brutality.
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TheGoldenEel
04/25/18 7:56:14 PM
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Can we post things like terrible topic these days?

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zinezinzadan
04/25/18 7:57:13 PM
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So.. I used to be like all of you. A year and half ago I changed my opinion because I created a scenario in my head that opened up my eyes on a different level.

Let me ask you guys and gals something. If you were a police officer, and a man is standing in front of you. You asked the man to put his hands clear in the air because he has something in his hands and you don't even recognize the object he's holding. He refuses, about 20 seconds goes by and he doesn't want to listen to you. Eventually you see his hand slowly, maybe even unintentionally, creepily starting to slide into his pant pocket, pant waist, jacket pocket, etc... Are you telling you would not pull the trigger? You would take a gamble on your life?

According to modern times... If you pull that trigger, thats police brutality.
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Lorenzo_2003
04/25/18 7:59:08 PM
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I am not very sympathetic to thieves, rapists and murderers. That does not mean I would ever support police death squads or something similar. If law enforcement breaks the law, then they too become criminals. It does not matter if the criminal happens to look like me either. I'm not marching on your behalf just because we share the same skin color. You break the rules, you deal with the consequences.
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MC_BatCommander
04/25/18 8:14:14 PM
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zinezinzadan posted...
So.. I used to be like all of you. A year and half ago I changed my opinion because I created a scenario in my head that opened up my eyes on a different level.


lol what the fuck
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Axiom
04/25/18 8:16:17 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
zinezinzadan posted...
So.. I used to be like all of you. A year and half ago I changed my opinion because I created a scenario in my head that opened up my eyes on a different level.


lol what the fuck

What are you telling me you never made up a scenario in your head that completely changed your opinion on something. Lmfao what the hell TC
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FrenchCrunch
04/25/18 8:18:28 PM
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you guys he's obviously on a fucking alt, come on
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Kazi1212
04/25/18 8:19:06 PM
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Axiom posted...
MC_BatCommander posted...
zinezinzadan posted...
So.. I used to be like all of you. A year and half ago I changed my opinion because I created a scenario in my head that opened up my eyes on a different level.


lol what the fuck

What are you telling me you never made up a scenario in your head that completely changed your opinion on something. Lmfao what the hell TC


This. I used to be against incest but then I imagined a scenario where i had a hot af sister who was all over me and wanted it, changed my mind about incest ever since
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Paper_Okami
04/25/18 8:19:20 PM
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Antifar posted...
I do not feel this way

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JordanPeterson
04/26/18 6:47:44 AM
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Wolf_J_Flywheel
04/26/18 6:53:27 AM
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I dont care. Pretty much everyone killed or injured by the police were not following orders. It dont matter if you are innocent or wasnt doing anything wrong. Follow directions from the police and have the situation figured out. The cops arent going to be like well I guess he didnt do anything if you respond by telling them to fuck off and keep walking away.
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zinezinzadan
04/26/18 1:08:36 PM
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Wolf_J_Flywheel posted...
I dont care. Pretty much everyone killed or injured by the police were not following orders. It dont matter if you are innocent or wasnt doing anything wrong. Follow directions from the police and have the situation figured out. The cops arent going to be like well I guess he didnt do anything if you respond by telling them to fuck off and keep walking away.

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ultimate reaver
04/26/18 1:09:52 PM
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nah, i'm a human being with compassion
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JordanPeterson
04/26/18 1:14:25 PM
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ultimate reaver posted...
nah, i'm a human being with compassion


Do you have compassion for the victims of criminals or the families of cops shot by criminals?
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ultimate reaver
04/26/18 1:15:14 PM
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JordanPeterson posted...
ultimate reaver posted...
nah, i'm a human being with compassion


Do you have compassion for the victims of criminals or the families of cops shot by criminals?


Yes. This does not preclude you from having compassion for the victims of police brutality.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
04/26/18 1:19:24 PM
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Freddie_Mercury posted...
zinezinzadan posted...
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zinezinzadan
04/26/18 1:20:12 PM
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dolomedes posted...
zinezinzadan posted...
So.. I used to be like all of you. A year and half ago I changed my opinion because I created a scenario in my head that opened up my eyes on a different level.

lmao

Imagine that, using your own rational thinking and thoughts to come to terms with an argument... Sorry I'm not small minded and only side on topics with the opinions of others, instead of making my own. Lmao, ignoramus.
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joestarrr
04/26/18 1:22:05 PM
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eston posted...
I care because police need to be accountable for their actions. When there is no accountability, you end up with abuse.


This.
Plus ... it's not really justice to lack compassion for human beings.
You can humanely do your job as a police officer without using unnecessary force.
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Complete_Idi0t
04/26/18 1:27:00 PM
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How do you know that the SUSPECT was in the wrong?
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BloodyNate
04/26/18 1:27:30 PM
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dolomedes posted...
zinezinzadan posted...
Imagine that, using your own rational thinking and thoughts to come to terms with an argument... Sorry I'm not small minded and only side on topics with the opinions of others, instead of making my own. Lmao, ignoramus.

All of my friends agree with me, my family agrees, and everyone at my work agrees...

for the record, i was less concerned about police brutality before i witnessed it.


In person or on video? The latter is a common sentiment hell, it had its own place in Get Out
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JordanPeterson
04/26/18 1:28:29 PM
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BloodyNate
04/26/18 1:35:21 PM
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JordanPeterson posted...
Complete_Idi0t posted...
How do you know that the SUSPECT was in the wrong?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEvMc-K8XHY" data-time="


Hoo boy theres a video thats aged poorly
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Trickfinger
04/26/18 1:39:13 PM
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Freddie_Mercury posted...
zinezinzadan posted...
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ImTheMacheteGuy
04/26/18 1:44:43 PM
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Trickfinger posted...
Freddie_Mercury posted...
zinezinzadan posted...
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I know right?
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MC_BatCommander
04/26/18 2:52:46 PM
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zinezinzadan posted...
dolomedes posted...
zinezinzadan posted...
So.. I used to be like all of you. A year and half ago I changed my opinion because I created a scenario in my head that opened up my eyes on a different level.

lmao

Imagine that, using your own rational thinking and thoughts to come to terms with an argument... Sorry I'm not small minded and only side on topics with the opinions of others, instead of making my own. Lmao, ignoramus.


You hardly seem rational
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