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Zikten 07/22/18 3:52:01 PM #158:	no it's the other way around. this law is about morality at the expence of people's lives. people who support this law are the ones who don't care. <cite>Zikten posted [p:905532611] in Fight Onli... [t:76511219]...</cite> <quote>no it's the other way around. this law is about morality at the expence of people's lives. people who support this law are the ones who don't care.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 07/22/18 3:53:00 PM #159:	we will never agree. me and you have opposing ways of viewing this. and I am never going to change my mind on how I see the issue and I don't think you will either. it's like 2 different religions <cite>Zikten posted [p:905532656] in Fight Onli... [t:76511219]...</cite> <quote>we will never agree. me and you have opposing ways of viewing this. and I am never going to change my mind on how I see the issue and I don't think you will either. it's like 2 different religions</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 07/22/18 3:53:01 PM #160:	You obviously dont care about all the victims legalised prostitution will create... The fact of the matter is that option 1 results in more victims, option 2 results in less, you think option 1 is the better choice, because you dont care... --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:905532657] in Fight Onli... [t:76511219]...</cite> <quote>You obviously dont care about all the victims legalised prostitution will create... The fact of the matter is that option 1 results in more victims, option 2 results in less, you think option 1 is the better choice, because you dont care...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 07/22/18 3:53:30 PM #161:	Rika_Furude posted... You obviously dont care about all the victims legalised prostitution will create... we both think we are the one who cares. let's leave it at that. <cite>Zikten posted [p:905532685] in Fight Onli... [t:76511219]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>You obviously dont care about all the victims legalised prostitution will create...</quote> we both think we are the one who cares. let's leave it at that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 07/22/18 3:54:09 PM #162:	Zikten posted... Rika_Furude posted... You obviously dont care about all the victims legalised prostitution will create... we both think we are the one who cares. let's leave it at that. Wrong. You think the better choice is the one that creates more victims. Thats not debateable. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:905532719] in Fight Onli... [t:76511219]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote> You obviously dont care about all the victims legalised prostitution will create... </quote> we both think we are the one who cares. let's leave it at that.</quote> Wrong. You think the better choice is the one that creates more victims. Thats not debateable.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 07/22/18 3:54:51 PM #163:	shakes head and walks away <cite>Zikten posted [p:905532752] in Fight Onli... [t:76511219]...</cite> <quote>shakes head and walks away</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 07/22/18 3:57:15 PM #164:	I dont understand what your problem is... --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:905532878] in Fight Onli... [t:76511219]...</cite> <quote>I dont understand what your problem is...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 07/22/18 3:59:23 PM #165:	Rika_Furude posted... I dont understand what your problem is... I honestly believe that my way saves lives. you are focused on numbers of kidnappings I focus on numbers of murders. as long as someone is still alive , there is hope for the future. that's how I see it. and this law is getting people killed. that is what my problem is <cite>Zikten posted [p:905532970] in Fight Onli... [t:76511219]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>I dont understand what your problem is...</quote> I honestly believe that my way saves lives. you are focused on numbers of kidnappings I focus on numbers of murders. as long as someone is still alive , there is hope for the future. that's how I see it. and this law is getting people killed. that is what my problem is</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 07/22/18 4:00:37 PM #166:	You do have stats to back that up though... i hope... --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:905533033] in Fight Onli... [t:76511219]...</cite> <quote>You do have stats to back that up though... i hope...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MonkeySee 07/22/18 4:01:44 PM #167:	A Zikten/Rika_Furude argument is the least interesting thing I've ever seen in my life. I think I'm done with CE for the day. <cite>MonkeySee posted [p:905533088] in Fight Onli... [t:76511219]...</cite> <quote>A Zikten/Rika_Furude argument is the least interesting thing I've ever seen in my life. I think I'm done with CE for the day.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 07/22/18 4:03:44 PM #168:	I dont have stats cause that stuff is usually swept under the rug by society. but I know that the law shuts down message boards that they were using to keep each other alive. these were boards where prostitutes posted to talk to each other and give advice and tips on staying alive. now each one of them is shut off from their community and alone now. they cant rely on each other anymore and they will not know what places are safe or which pimps or customers to trust and which to avoid <cite>Zikten posted [p:905533183] in Fight Onli... [t:76511219]...</cite> <quote>I dont have stats cause that stuff is usually swept under the rug by society. but I know that the law shuts down message boards that they were using to keep each other alive. these were boards where prostitutes posted to talk to each other and give advice and tips on staying alive. now each one of them is shut off from their community and alone now. they cant rely on each other anymore and they will not know what places are safe or which pimps or customers to trust and which to avoid</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 07/22/18 4:05:05 PM #169:	also if they properly legalized it, it would be safe. I am talking the actual government overseeing it. every prostitute would have a badge and an ID and be registered and pay taxes. if one of them goes missing, there would be questions. it would work <cite>Zikten posted [p:905533244] in Fight Onli... [t:76511219]...</cite> <quote>also if they properly legalized it, it would be safe. I am talking the actual government overseeing it. every prostitute would have a badge and an ID and be registered and pay taxes. if one of them goes missing, there would be questions. it would work</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 07/22/18 4:05:23 PM #170:	I just dont understand how youre willing to throw away the proven safety benefits that come with criminalizing prostitution, for a shot in the dark that you just have a hunch is right... https://orgs.law.harvard.edu/lids/2014/06/12/does-legalized-prostitution-increase-human-trafficking/ --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:905533263] in Fight Onli... [t:76511219]...</cite> <quote>I just dont understand how youre willing to throw away the proven safety benefits that come with criminalizing prostitution, for a shot in the dark that you just have a hunch is right... https://orgs.law.harvard.edu/lids/2014/06/12/does-legalized-prostitution-increase-human-trafficking/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 07/22/18 4:05:57 PM #171:	and people kidnapped wouldn't work because you would have to talk to the government to get registered and if your not registered you are illegal. and to be registered you have to do an interview and tell them you weren't kidnapped. this would shut down all kidnapping <cite>Zikten posted [p:905533294] in Fight Onli... [t:76511219]...</cite> <quote>and people kidnapped wouldn't work because you would have to talk to the government to get registered and if your not registered you are illegal. and to be registered you have to do an interview and tell them you weren't kidnapped. this would shut down all kidnapping</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 07/22/18 4:11:51 PM #172:	Wow --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:905533562] in Fight Onli... [t:76511219]...</cite> <quote>Wow</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rika_Furude 07/22/18 6:44:17 PM #174:	shockthemonkey posted... Rika_Furude posted... Tell that to all the women and children who have gotten kidnapped and put into sex slavery because this law didnt exist. Please tell me how this law prevents trafficking https://orgs.law.harvard.edu/lids/2014/06/12/does-legalized-prostitution-increase-human-trafficking --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:905541113] in Fight Onli... [t:76511219]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote> Tell that to all the women and children who have gotten kidnapped and put into sex slavery because this law didnt exist.</quote> Please tell me how this law prevents trafficking</quote> https://orgs.law.harvard.edu/lids/2014/06/12/does-legalized-prostitution-increase-human-trafficking</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rika_Furude 07/23/18 5:02:37 PM #176:	shockthemonkey posted... Rika_Furude posted... shockthemonkey posted... Rika_Furude posted... Tell that to all the women and children who have gotten kidnapped and put into sex slavery because this law didnt exist. Please tell me how this law prevents trafficking https://orgs.law.harvard.edu/lids/2014/06/12/does-legalized-prostitution-increase-human-trafficking This law specifically How does that study not apply to this law? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:905594220] in Fight Onli... [t:76511219]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote> Tell that to all the women and children who have gotten kidnapped and put into sex slavery because this law didnt exist. </quote> Please tell me how this law prevents trafficking </quote> https://orgs.law.harvard.edu/lids/2014/06/12/does-legalized-prostitution-increase-human-trafficking</quote> This law specifically</quote> How does that study not apply to this law?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rika_Furude 07/24/18 9:10:42 AM #178:	do you have some evidence that counters the stats? no? ok. --- https://imgur.com/oQHLBrx https://imgur.com/ah5IE8D https://imgur.com/USV84z9 https://imgur.com/PSjlohO <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:905630032] in Fight Onli... [t:76511219]...</cite> <quote>do you have some evidence that counters the stats? no? ok.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rika_Furude 07/24/18 9:24:06 AM #180:	i mean, there are studies that prove you wrong, but all you want to do is troll. not my problem. --- https://imgur.com/oQHLBrx https://imgur.com/ah5IE8D https://imgur.com/USV84z9 https://imgur.com/PSjlohO <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:905630444] in Fight Onli... [t:76511219]...</cite> <quote>i mean, there are studies that prove you wrong, but all you want to do is troll. not my problem.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rika_Furude 07/24/18 9:27:15 AM #182:	nope --- https://imgur.com/oQHLBrx https://imgur.com/ah5IE8D https://imgur.com/USV84z9 https://imgur.com/PSjlohO <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:905630542] in Fight Onli... [t:76511219]...</cite> <quote>nope</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rika_Furude 07/24/18 9:40:24 AM #184:	wrong again. i posted credible studies and stats that prove you wrong and you have yet to address them. --- https://imgur.com/oQHLBrx https://imgur.com/ah5IE8D https://imgur.com/USV84z9 https://imgur.com/PSjlohO <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:905631024] in Fight Onli... [t:76511219]...</cite> <quote>wrong again. i posted credible studies and stats that prove you wrong and you have yet to address them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 07/24/18 9:52:04 AM #185:	Rika, you posted "a study" and claim victory because shockthemonkey didn't have time to look over it in detail. Fortunately, I do. While that study is certainly damning for proponents of legalized sex work, there are a few caveats to it. One, while the study states it did a full cross-sectional study on over a hundred countries, it admits that the study can only support "an association" between prostitution legalization and sex trafficking, but cannot establish causality. Two, they then went to the case studies, examining Germany, Sweden, and Denmark. The results they put together indicate support their hypothesis, but one still has to examine the fact that the study was done over the series of five years (1999-2003), and admits a lot of factors. For one, pre-legalization in Denmark data is not available, nor is pre-criminalization data in Sweden. Pre-criminalization in Sweden, the law stated that individual sale was legal, but not organized brothels. That's just a couple of examples of caveats that can put bias in the data. So, while this study supports Rika's argument about legalization of sex work increasing human trafficking, it's not proof. It's always important with these studies to go all the way to the details to realize that one study is rarely the be-all end-all for an argument. ... Oh, and has been said multiple times in this topic, the study has nothing to contribute to the argument of whether a new law can reduce trafficking in a country where prostitution is already largely illegal. --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:905631497] in Fight Onli... [t:76511219]...</cite> <quote>Rika, you posted "a study" and claim victory because shockthemonkey didn't have time to look over it in detail. Fortunately, I do. While that study is certainly damning for proponents of legalized sex work, there are a few caveats to it. One, while the study states it did a full cross-sectional study on over a hundred countries, it admits that the study can only support "an association" between prostitution legalization and sex trafficking, but cannot establish causality. Two, they then went to the case studies, examining Germany, Sweden, and Denmark. The results they put together indicate support their hypothesis, but one still has to examine the fact that the study was done over the series of five years (1999-2003), and admits a lot of factors. For one, pre-legalization in Denmark data is not available, nor is pre-criminalization data in Sweden. Pre-criminalization in Sweden, the law stated that individual sale was legal, but not organized brothels. That's just a couple of examples of caveats that can put bias in the data. So, while this study supports Rika's argument about legalization of sex work increasing human trafficking, it's not proof. It's always important with these studies to go all the way to the details to realize that one study is rarely the be-all end-all for an argument. ... Oh, and has been said multiple times in this topic, the study has nothing to contribute to the argument of whether a new law can reduce trafficking in a country where prostitution is already largely illegal.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 07/24/18 9:57:09 AM #188:	The hypothesis being put forth is "if criminalization of prostitution reduces sex trafficking, then it therefore follows that new laws cracking further down on prostitution will further reduce sex trafficking." Not the worst assumption in the world, but the data you're supplying doesn't support it. --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:905631702] in Fight Onli... [t:76511219]...</cite> <quote>The hypothesis being put forth is "if criminalization of prostitution reduces sex trafficking, then it therefore follows that new laws cracking further down on prostitution will further reduce sex trafficking." Not the worst assumption in the world, but the data you're supplying doesn't support it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 07/24/18 10:11:25 AM #189:	It does. It lowers the demand. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:905632277] in Fight Onli... [t:76511219]...</cite> <quote>It does. It lowers the demand.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 07/24/18 10:15:47 AM #190:	Rika_Furude posted... It does. It lowers the demand. What is "it" in this case? FOSTA? Or the study? --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:905632449] in Fight Onli... [t:76511219]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>It does. It lowers the demand.</quote> What is "it" in this case? FOSTA? Or the study?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Catgirl Fondler 07/24/18 10:21:05 AM #191:	ImTheMacheteGuy posted... SageHarpuia posted... Nothing of value was gained --- N/A <cite>The Catgirl Fondler posted [p:905632699] in Fight Onli... [t:76511219]...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SageHarpuia posted...</cite> <quote>Nothing of value was gained</quote></quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlingBling22947 07/25/18 8:26:53 PM #192:	KiwiTerraRizing posted... This sucks, I got laid so much off Craigslist over the years. I know right --- When was the last time you heard your boy Nas rhyme? Never on schedule but always on time <cite>BlingBling22947 posted [p:905722096] in Fight Onli... [t:76511219]...</cite> <quote><cite>KiwiTerraRizing posted...</cite> <quote>This sucks, I got laid so much off Craigslist over the years.</quote> I know right</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlingBling22947 07/26/18 11:21:34 PM #193:	littlebro07 posted... No more banging Craigslist strangers, boys. :'( --- When was the last time you heard your boy Nas rhyme? Never on schedule but always on time <cite>BlingBling22947 posted [p:905786466] in Fight Onli... [t:76511219]...</cite> <quote><cite>littlebro07 posted...</cite> <quote>No more banging Craigslist strangers, boys.</quote> :'(</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NurseRedHeart 07/27/18 12:35:06 AM #194:	This only leads to black markets. --- http://tinyurl.com/z8cf8o6 / http://tinyurl.com/jpq5l8j / http://tinyurl.com/z9y449e \ ( ' w ') / - Ah yiss! <cite>NurseRedHeart posted [p:905789420] in Fight Onli... [t:76511219]...</cite> <quote>This only leads to black markets.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 07/27/18 3:59:22 AM #195:	Theres always black markets. This lowers sex trafficking by lowering demand. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:905795546] in Fight Onli... [t:76511219]...</cite> <quote>Theres always black markets. This lowers sex trafficking by lowering demand.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlingBling22947 07/29/18 2:19:20 AM #196:	MonkeySee posted... A Zikten/Rika_Furude argument is the least interesting thing I've ever seen in my life. I think I'm done with CE for the day. --- When was the last time you heard your boy Nas rhyme? Never on schedule but always on time <cite>BlingBling22947 posted [p:905898174] in Fight Onli... [t:76511219]...</cite> <quote><cite>MonkeySee posted...</cite> <quote>A Zikten/Rika_Furude argument is the least interesting thing I've ever seen in my life. I think I'm done with CE for the day.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 07/29/18 11:32:11 PM #197:	Yet here you are attempting to revive your own topic --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:905943669] in Fight Onli... [t:76511219]...</cite> <quote>Yet here you are attempting to revive your own topic</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlingBling22947 07/30/18 8:12:06 PM #198:	Irony posted... Why is GameFAQs still up? Do you know something I don't . . .? --- When was the last time you heard your boy Nas rhyme? Never on schedule but always on time <cite>BlingBling22947 posted [p:905993065] in Fight Onli... [t:76511219]...</cite> <quote><cite>Irony posted...</cite> <quote>Why is GameFAQs still up?</quote> Do you know something I don't . . .?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlingBling22947 08/01/18 7:47:19 PM #199:	https://imgur.com/qlXpj2E --- When was the last time you heard your boy Nas rhyme? Never on schedule but always on time <cite>BlingBling22947 posted [p:906110162] in Fight Onli... [t:76511219]...</cite> <quote>https://imgur.com/qlXpj2E</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlingBling22947 08/02/18 8:28:25 PM #200:	Sayoria posted... Good luck getting rid of onion sites. Sayoria posted... onion . . . I don't understand. --- When was the last time you heard your boy Nas rhyme? Never on schedule but always on time <cite>BlingBling22947 posted [p:906170842] in Fight Onli... [t:76511219]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote>Good luck getting rid of onion sites.</quote> <cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote>onion</quote> . . . I don't understand.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlingBling22947 08/04/18 8:42:12 PM #201:	Dark_SilverX posted... Good. Now they need to ban guns and cigarettes. lol --- When was the last time you heard your boy Nas rhyme? Never on schedule but always on time <cite>BlingBling22947 posted [p:906278091] in Fight Onli... [t:76511219]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dark_SilverX posted...</cite> <quote>Good. Now they need to ban guns and cigarettes.</quote> lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlingBling22947 08/05/18 10:50:14 PM #202:	Tyranthraxus posted... Gosh maybe there is merit to that whole ban all guns thing lmao --- When was the last time you heard your boy Nas rhyme? Never on schedule but always on time <cite>BlingBling22947 posted [p:906338897] in Fight Onli... [t:76511219]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote>Gosh maybe there is merit to that whole ban all guns thing</quote> lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlingBling22947 08/08/18 8:30:32 PM #204:	The idea of banning guns actually doing anything is extremely hilarious. --- When was the last time you heard your boy Nas rhyme? Never on schedule but always on time <cite>BlingBling22947 posted [p:906526455] in Fight Onli... [t:76511219]...</cite> <quote>The idea of banning guns actually doing anything is extremely hilarious.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 08/09/18 3:53:50 PM #205:	Why? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:906577305] in Fight Onli... [t:76511219]...</cite> <quote>Why?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GreatEvilEmpire 08/09/18 4:16:41 PM #206:	Hollywood was a big player behind FOSTA/SESTA. https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20180318/00493539444/hollywoods-behind-the-scenes-support-sesta-is-all-about-filtering-internet.shtml This has little to do with sex trafficking and everything to do with control and censorship. Sex trafficking was a pawn in a much bigger chess game. --- Sig under construction! <cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted [p:906578697] in Fight Onli... [t:76511219]...</cite> <quote>Hollywood was a big player behind FOSTA/SESTA. https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20180318/00493539444/hollywoods-behind-the-scenes-support-sesta-is-all-about-filtering-internet.shtml This has little to do with sex trafficking and everything to do with control and censorship. Sex trafficking was a pawn in a much bigger chess game.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlingBling22947 08/10/18 8:43:35 PM #207:	Rika_Furude posted... Why? There are already millions of illegal guns in the country and they won't go anywhere because of a law. --- When was the last time you heard your boy Nas rhyme? Never on schedule but always on time <cite>BlingBling22947 posted [p:906659530] in Fight Onli... [t:76511219]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>Why?</quote> There are already millions of illegal guns in the country and they won't go anywhere because of a law.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Current Events > Fight Online Sex Trafficking Act (FOSTA) is now officially law. (+) Yeah! (+)

Current Events > Fight Online Sex Trafficking Act (FOSTA) is now officially law.