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Lord_Theruss
04/04/18 1:38:26 AM
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thronedfire2 posted...
wait people think just because she quoted Hitler she's a Nazi?

that's not what's happening here at all


The video game company Paradox Interactive must be a company full of Nazis. I mean they have a game called Hearts of Iron 4 that has a lot of Hitler quotes. In fact, you can even play as Hitler and Nazi Germany.
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UnfairRepresent
04/04/18 1:40:30 AM
#306:


*re-enters topics*

*hitler debate*

*sighs*

*leaves topic*
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Synbios459
04/04/18 2:15:48 AM
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I have to wonder how many youtube employees are going to stand up and demand that they have the right to carry at work and have a chance to defend their lives in such a situation. Seems like there would be some people working there that are smart enough to realize that a "no guns" sign does not equal protection.
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Malcrasternus
04/04/18 2:17:58 AM
#308:


Synbios459 posted...
I have to wonder how many youtube employees are going to stand up and demand that they have the right to carry at work and have a chance to defend their lives in such a situation. Seems like there would be some people working there that are smart enough to realize that a "no guns" sign does not equal protection.


It won't.

I guarantee you it's going to spearhead the drive to push off all content they disagree with.

Which, big fucking guess that's going to be.
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N3xtG3nGam3r
04/04/18 2:18:10 AM
#309:


FireJoeGirardi posted...
thronedfire2 posted...
wait people think just because she quoted Hitler she's a Nazi?

that's not what's happening here at all


srsly


That wasnt how i took it. I took it as the quote shows his mindset, which alligns with the mindset of individuals within the government we have in place today. Ideas dont have any color, or race. This is just one of those situations where even though a piece of shit made the point, the point is still valid. Idk.
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N3xtG3nGam3r
04/04/18 2:30:49 AM
#310:


Malcrasternus posted...
Synbios459 posted...
I have to wonder how many youtube employees are going to stand up and demand that they have the right to carry at work and have a chance to defend their lives in such a situation. Seems like there would be some people working there that are smart enough to realize that a "no guns" sign does not equal protection.


It won't.

I guarantee you it's going to spearhead the drive to push off all content they disagree with.

Which, big fucking guess that's going to be.


Yes, exactly. Right after this was made news, i was on reddit, and saw several people make this exact point--and i could definitely see it happening.

Its crazy how convinient it is to be honest. I honestly cant wait until we have info on the situation...like if it was completely random, or if the Boyfriend was cheating, or something crazy like that, so the Girlfriend goes bat-shit. Im curious to find out if she was taking medication. The fact that this singular variable is completely different than all the other times something like this has happened makes it crucial to draw the lines to the things that ARE similar, because the more people you have that are drastically different, but share the same issues, the closer we can get to perhaps isolating patterns of causation between these psychopaths.

Back in the 80s i guess there were several instances of people doing mass shootings after taking certain medications, and Big Pharma companies lost the law suits (they settled after being backed into a corner) that were brought against them. The kids that did columbine were taking certain medications as well if i remember correctly. That seems to be a repeating problem with these situations, of course along with the fact that a gun was used.
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DifferentialEquation
04/04/18 6:40:45 AM
#311:


DarkProto05 posted...
Oh fucking great! She's Arabic, just fucking great! Now she will get branded the terrorist mark and other racial stigma that a white women wouldn't receive. Why couldn't she just be white.

OH fucking GREAT!


white guy shoots up a place: Toxic masculinity! Why are white men always doing these shootings?!

arabic woman shoots up a place: People might make racist comments about the shooter! No fair!
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HypnoCoosh
04/04/18 8:09:38 AM
#312:


CE bored with this already?
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50Blessings
04/04/18 8:42:04 AM
#313:


HypnoCoosh posted...
CE bored with this already?


What do you expect considering who it was and what she used?
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Superlinkbro
04/04/18 8:44:10 AM
#314:


andel posted...
yeah even if she was muslim this isn't islamic terrorism, she is just a complete nutjob. that won't stop the scum in the_donald and 4chan from ranting about islam but this truly seems to be a case of a mentally deranged loon snapping

Oh god 4chan'll be a mess.

Ewww...
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UnfairRepresent
04/04/18 8:46:16 AM
#315:


HypnoCoosh posted...
CE bored with this already?

People are saddened and interested in the incident but they're less inclined to have arguments about Hitler and shout about liberals.

The topic went to shit dude.
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Webmaster4531
04/04/18 8:50:17 AM
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The conservative circle jerk is coming.
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Nomadic View
04/04/18 9:28:25 AM
#318:


Malcrasternus posted...
Synbios459 posted...
I have to wonder how many youtube employees are going to stand up and demand that they have the right to carry at work and have a chance to defend their lives in such a situation. Seems like there would be some people working there that are smart enough to realize that a "no guns" sign does not equal protection.


It won't.

I guarantee you it's going to spearhead the drive to push off all content they disagree with.

Which, big fucking guess that's going to be.


Thats what I figure. Theyre going to double down on hate speech policies.
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The Admiral
04/04/18 9:46:43 AM
#319:


Webmaster4531 posted...
The conservative circle jerk is coming.


This topic is a bunch of users like yourself eagerly awaiting for someone to bash Muslims, and not a single person doing that.

Grow up.
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Webmaster4531
04/04/18 9:51:47 AM
#320:


The Admiral posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
The conservative circle jerk is coming.


This topic is a bunch of users like yourself eagerly awaiting for someone to bash Muslims, and not a single person doing that.

Grow up.

Well you can't deny they want to.

Capn Circus posted...
RE_expert44 posted...
Woman shooter wearing a headscarf? Hmmmmm


Hmmm.. interesting.

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The Great Muta 22
04/04/18 9:56:57 AM
#321:


The Admiral posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
The conservative circle jerk is coming.


This topic is a bunch of users like yourself eagerly awaiting for someone to bash Muslims, and not a single person doing that.

Grow up.


Well that's just not true
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50Blessings
04/04/18 10:18:46 AM
#322:


I find it hilarious that every time it's a white shooter, the usual suspects get upset that nobody calls them a white terrorist.

Now we have someone with a foreign name, and immediately they're worried everyone is going to cry terrorism when nobody is doing it.
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Nomadic View
04/04/18 10:34:22 AM
#324:


50Blessings posted...
I find it hilarious that every time it's a white shooter, the usual suspects get upset that nobody calls them a white terrorist.

Now we have someone with a foreign name, and immediately they're worried everyone is going to cry terrorism when nobody is doing it.


They believe that everyone is as vile and evil as they are.
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Sad_Face
04/04/18 10:46:20 AM
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Ammonitida posted...
She's been identified.

https://heavy.com/news/2018/04/nasim-aghdam-youtube-shooting-suspect-channel-instagram-photos/

Nasim the Persian Azeri female vegan bodybuilder, also animal rights activist promoting healthy and humane living. Nasim produced and launched the first Persian TV commercial and music video (Do You Dare) regarding animal rights and veganism through international Iranian satellite Television in 2010, read the About section on her YouTube channel.

Her YouTube channel has been deleted. She had more than 5,000 subscribers, and her videos had been viewed more than one million times.


Okay, the motive makes sense. I'm not saying what she did here is right, but Life Rule #24 states that "YOU DO NOT MESS WITH SOMEONE'S INCOME". That is asking for trouble. I've seen my coworker make a nasty nonthreat because our other coworker was taking her sweet time on delivering his share of the moneypot. Just last week, my mom had a big argument with a guy my dad gave contract work for because he wanted his money (to be fair, their originally gave him a cheque and he wanted cash, it was Sunday and he was drinking). Some 40-60 years back, when you shake your hand on something over money, you commit to your word or you'll be ostracized from the community. In this case, she built a business on her platform, only to have it completely taken away from her. That's a prime situation to make someone desperate.

Normally, I'd agree that shooters should have their identities hidden for these events, but in this case, this is worth discussing because lives are on the line, both at Youtube and the lives of the people who use the platform as their main source of income. What's unfortunate is that there's barely any human to human interactions between Youtube and the users (which is expected given how massively popular it is), so people who make the decisions to filter out X video types might be a bit ignorant on how these filters impacts their users and how wide reaching they could unintentionally be.
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RE_expert44
04/04/18 10:47:59 AM
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Capn Circus
04/04/18 10:50:02 AM
#327:


What country did she come from?
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mario2000
04/04/18 11:07:13 AM
#328:


A Mod/Admin said on 4/4/2018 3:27:32 AM:
Please don't call other users names or try to insult them (e.g. using redhat as an insult), it violates the flaming rules.

lol

but please, tell me again how CE is "too librul"
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ave1
04/04/18 11:14:29 AM
#329:


Sad_Face posted...
Ammonitida posted...
She's been identified.

https://heavy.com/news/2018/04/nasim-aghdam-youtube-shooting-suspect-channel-instagram-photos/

Nasim the Persian Azeri female vegan bodybuilder, also animal rights activist promoting healthy and humane living. Nasim produced and launched the first Persian TV commercial and music video (Do You Dare) regarding animal rights and veganism through international Iranian satellite Television in 2010, read the About section on her YouTube channel.

Her YouTube channel has been deleted. She had more than 5,000 subscribers, and her videos had been viewed more than one million times.


Okay, the motive makes sense. I'm not saying what she did here is right, but Life Rule #24 states that "YOU DO NOT MESS WITH SOMEONE'S INCOME". That is asking for trouble. I've seen my coworker make a nasty nonthreat because our other coworker was taking her sweet time on delivering his share of the moneypot. Just last week, my mom had a big argument with a guy my dad gave contract work for because he wanted his money (to be fair, their originally gave him a cheque and he wanted cash, it was Sunday and he was drinking). Some 40-60 years back, when you shake your hand on something over money, you commit to your word or you'll be ostracized from the community. In this case, she built a business on her platform, only to have it completely taken away from her. That's a prime situation to make someone desperate.

Normally, I'd agree that shooters should have their identities hidden for these events, but in this case, this is worth discussing because lives are on the line, both at Youtube and the lives of the people who use the platform as their main source of income. What's unfortunate is that there's barely any human to human interactions between Youtube and the users (which is expected given how massively popular it is), so people who make the decisions to filter out X video types might be a bit ignorant on how these filters impacts their users and how wide reaching they could unintentionally be.


Good read. Thanks for putting some thought into this.
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Nomadic View
04/04/18 12:20:51 PM
#330:


Capn Circus posted...
What country did she come from?


I heard on the radio it was Iran.
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voldothegr8
04/04/18 12:39:41 PM
#331:


mario2000 posted...
A Mod/Admin said on 4/4/2018 3:27:32 AM:
Please don't call other users names or try to insult them (e.g. using redhat as an insult), it violates the flaming rules.

lol

but please, tell me again how CE is "too librul"

What does politics have to do with it? No name calling period.
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Pow Pow Punishment
04/04/18 12:40:56 PM
#332:


Sad_Face posted...
Okay, the motive makes sense. I'm not saying what she did here is right, but Life Rule #24 states that "YOU DO NOT MESS WITH SOMEONE'S INCOME". That is asking for trouble.

It's YouTube, and to be honest, her videos were cringey and bad. She's probably in the right about YouTube f***ing with her videos because it's a widespread complaint, but she's almost 40, obsessed with her view count, and still living with her grandmother without a stable job.
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Ammonitida
04/04/18 1:01:49 PM
#333:


RE_expert44 posted...
She sounds pretty extremist


But is she right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhBWDzkqEPY" data-time="
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YellowSUV
04/04/18 3:06:21 PM
#334:


In hindsight its actually surprising this is the first youtuber to go postal.
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Roxborough4Ever
04/04/18 5:16:57 PM
#335:


so why was the other topic locked?
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Schwarber
04/04/18 5:24:13 PM
#336:


Roxborough4Ever posted...
so why was the other topic locked?


Because it was sensationalist garbage and the topic title was a lie?
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Axiom
04/04/18 5:28:21 PM
#337:


Schwarber posted...
Roxborough4Ever posted...
so why was the other topic locked?


Because it was sensationalist garbage and the topic title was a lie?

Lol which far righter was it that shit their pants
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Ammonitida
04/04/18 6:43:48 PM
#338:


https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/04/people-are-molding-their-responses-to-nasim-aghdam-to-fit-the-shape-of-their-bigotry.html

Theres another group of people close-reading Aghdams appearance, and they make strange companions for the conservatives doing the same. Feminist-identified women with anti-transgender politics are convinced that Aghdam is trans, and they fear shell unduly besmirch the female tradition of not shooting at people in public places. Is anyone surprised that the woman who shot up the YouTube hq is obviously a man? one such Twitter user asked.
Another beseeched the media to Please report #YouTubeShooters sex, not identity, because the public deserve to know objective facts. Nobody actually knows the SEX of criminals, because the media and documentation now report identity instead, she continued.

The #YouTubeShooter was not a woman, he was a transwoman, a user with the handle @WomenHaveWombs tweeted. Please do not add this person to the womens crime statistics. There are so few women shooters that just adding one trans male to the womens stats will skew them enormously.
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Sad_Face
04/04/18 6:58:20 PM
#339:


Pow Pow Punishment posted...
Sad_Face posted...
Okay, the motive makes sense. I'm not saying what she did here is right, but Life Rule #24 states that "YOU DO NOT MESS WITH SOMEONE'S INCOME". That is asking for trouble.

It's YouTube, and to be honest, her videos were cringey and bad. She's probably in the right about YouTube f***ing with her videos because it's a widespread complaint, but she's almost 40, obsessed with her view count, and still living with her grandmother without a stable job.


If shes making an honest living through her cringey videos (even if shes making due with living with her grandmother), I dont see how that should be held against her. And she invested her life to get that subscriber count and YouTube video channel. It may not be glamorous, but its still something to take pride in.
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BlingBling22947
04/04/18 7:53:10 PM
#340:


jukester posted...
The president considers these guys to be heroes, so now's the time to run amok with a weapon.


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Banjo2553
04/04/18 8:11:26 PM
#341:


What were Nasim's videos about? Curious since the news doesn't want to bother saying what they were.
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Axiom
04/04/18 8:14:47 PM
#342:


Banjo2553 posted...
What were Nasim's videos about? Curious since the news doesn't want to bother saying what they were.

A vlog about being persecuted by youtube and an exercise video is all I've seen. I think she just did random shit using her sex appeal to get viewers
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Banjo2553
04/04/18 8:19:00 PM
#343:


Axiom posted...
Banjo2553 posted...
What were Nasim's videos about? Curious since the news doesn't want to bother saying what they were.

A vlog about being persecuted by youtube and an exercise video is all I've seen. I think she just did random shit using her sex appeal to get viewers

Ah. Guess that's why it's not worth talking about, lol.
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Ammonitida
04/04/18 8:25:00 PM
#344:


Banjo2553 posted...
Axiom posted...
Banjo2553 posted...
What were Nasim's videos about? Curious since the news doesn't want to bother saying what they were.

A vlog about being persecuted by youtube and an exercise video is all I've seen. I think she just did random shit using her sex appeal to get viewers

Ah. Guess that's why it's not worth talking about, lol.


She did a Vegan-themed Taylor Swift parody video.

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WolfFangHowell
04/04/18 8:54:14 PM
#345:


Just saw a user get suspended for calling this piece of shit a piece of shit.

Wit nit
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DarkProto05
04/05/18 2:33:31 AM
#346:


Lord_Theruss posted...
The Admiral posted...
DarkProto05 posted...
Oh fucking great! She's Arabic, just fucking great! Now she will get branded the terrorist mark and other racial stigma that a white women wouldn't receive. Why couldn't she just be white.

OH fucking GREAT!


I wish you guys would realize that the reason most Muslims who commit atrocities are called terrorists is because they're actually terrorists committing attacks in the name of Islam.

If this woman just happens to be Muslim and is committing an attack because of a YouTube policy, she's not a terrorist. She a "mentally ill" "lone wolf," to use the terms you guys like to think are exclusive to whites.


^This.

Also she turned the gun on herself. Jihadis don't commit suicide unless they know they will be taking kafirs with them. Also she had a Youtube channel where she acted immodest by not wearing a hijab and doing other un-Islamic things. She could have been a Muslim, but she was not an Islamist. There is a difference between the two.

Very unlikely that this was Islamic terrorism.

I never said she's muslim. I said folks would accuse her of terrorism because she's arabic god damnit!
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HypnoCoosh
04/05/18 11:21:12 AM
#347:


Media buried this one pretty quick.
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Lord_Theruss
04/05/18 11:37:53 AM
#348:


DarkProto05 posted...
Lord_Theruss posted...
The Admiral posted...
DarkProto05 posted...
Oh fucking great! She's Arabic, just fucking great! Now she will get branded the terrorist mark and other racial stigma that a white women wouldn't receive. Why couldn't she just be white.

OH fucking GREAT!


I wish you guys would realize that the reason most Muslims who commit atrocities are called terrorists is because they're actually terrorists committing attacks in the name of Islam.

If this woman just happens to be Muslim and is committing an attack because of a YouTube policy, she's not a terrorist. She a "mentally ill" "lone wolf," to use the terms you guys like to think are exclusive to whites.


^This.

Also she turned the gun on herself. Jihadis don't commit suicide unless they know they will be taking kafirs with them. Also she had a Youtube channel where she acted immodest by not wearing a hijab and doing other un-Islamic things. She could have been a Muslim, but she was not an Islamist. There is a difference between the two.

Very unlikely that this was Islamic terrorism.

I never said she's muslim. I said folks would accuse her of terrorism because she's arabic god damnit!


She isn't Arabic though. Big difference between Arab and Persian. The two would be offended being labeled as the other. But yes, she is brown skinned and folk with an agenda are going to accuse her of terrorism. However the facts will say otherwise, so let them just make shit up to satisfy their agenda. Most agenda driven groups do this anyway regardless of the topic.
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Schwarber
04/05/18 11:58:40 AM
#349:


HypnoCoosh posted...
Media buried this one pretty quick.


Details are still coming out. No one died except the shooter. What else do you want right now? inb4 some stupid shit about an agenda
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Ammonitida
04/05/18 12:02:41 PM
#351:


Lord_Theruss posted...
DarkProto05 posted...
Lord_Theruss posted...
The Admiral posted...
DarkProto05 posted...
Oh fucking great! She's Arabic, just fucking great! Now she will get branded the terrorist mark and other racial stigma that a white women wouldn't receive. Why couldn't she just be white.

OH fucking GREAT!


I wish you guys would realize that the reason most Muslims who commit atrocities are called terrorists is because they're actually terrorists committing attacks in the name of Islam.

If this woman just happens to be Muslim and is committing an attack because of a YouTube policy, she's not a terrorist. She a "mentally ill" "lone wolf," to use the terms you guys like to think are exclusive to whites.


^This.

Also she turned the gun on herself. Jihadis don't commit suicide unless they know they will be taking kafirs with them. Also she had a Youtube channel where she acted immodest by not wearing a hijab and doing other un-Islamic things. She could have been a Muslim, but she was not an Islamist. There is a difference between the two.

Very unlikely that this was Islamic terrorism.

I never said she's muslim. I said folks would accuse her of terrorism because she's arabic god damnit!


She isn't Arabic though. Big difference between Arab and Persian. The two would be offended being labeled as the other. But yes, she is brown skinned and folk with an agenda are going to accuse her of terrorism. However the facts will say otherwise, so let them just make shit up to satisfy their agenda. Most agenda driven groups do this anyway regardless of the topic.

She's not "brown-skinned" either. She's white and of Middle Eastern descent, like Bashar Assad.

And free speech and censorship are very political issues today, and shooting up innocents over it can be construed as politically motivated which would make the act terrorism.
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Ammonitida
04/05/18 12:08:05 PM
#352:


HypnoCoosh posted...
Media buried this one pretty quick.


That often happens when only the shooter dies.
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