Current Events > Papa John's closes all stores in my area without notice, blames NY minimum wage

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Southernfatman posted...

All the while living in this:

http://homesoftherich.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/Screen-Shot-2016-09-03-at-4.50.55-PM.png

That mansion is gaudy as hell. It looks like a David Winter collectible you'd find in a 90 year old woman's curio.
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Official pizza of the alt right

tainted_emerald posted...

DoctorVader posted...

tainted_emerald posted...

DoctorVader posted...

tainted_emerald posted...

gbpxl posted...

The problem with the chain stores is that they probably have to adhere to certain price structures. The other pizza stores in New York probably couldve gotten by with raising their prices, but not Papa Johns.

If corporate couldn't make an exception like they do for 90% of the major chain stores in Hawai'i (including Papa John's), then that's on the CEO.

What exceptions? Link?

Pretty much all pizza prices in Hawaii are one or two dollars more than the national advertised price.

You guys get a 9.99 take out for dominoes? We get 11.99.

Try to order a large pepperoni from Papa John's in Vegas: $15. Hawai'i: $21.

Also, it says right on their website that prices can vary by location, so that's not a big factor for Papa John's at least.

That's because everything in Hawaii is basically imported from the mainland. It's been like that forever and it's not to compensate for raising minimum wages.

Just pointing out that there was nothing stopping the stores from raising their prices.

Theres more to things than just jacking something else up to compensate for a loss.

That though most likely crossed the franchise owners mind. After a cost benefit analysis, figuring things like competition, he decided to shut down.

Likewise in other areas they will likely raise prices. It doesnt mean there wont be an overall negative effect. At the end, you end up with the same damn purchasing power.
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A city of 200,000 will no longer be able to order garbage pizza

Boo fuckin hoo
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Tmaster148 posted...

tennisdude818 posted...

Tmaster148 posted...

tennisdude818 posted...

Economics 101. If you make a commodity artificially expensive, you discourage its use. Leftists understand this when they want to understand it, like when they call for carbon taxes.

It's not like other pizza places are closing down. Papa John's simply isn't making a product people are willing to pay for. It's their fault.

Inflated labor costs hit the most vulnerable businesses first.

Clearly they aren't very good at running a business if an increase cost kills them completely.

That isnt really always true. It often can be but doesnt have to be.
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SlashmanSG posted...

Between Buffalo and Syracuse.

*sigh*
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SlashmanSG posted...

FarFromFields posted...

Perinton Pizza

Yo, their Big Mac pizza is no joke.

the krusty krab pizza is the pizza for you and me.
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All we need now is for Papa John's to close all of its other locations and the company to die the death it deserves for its shitty pizza.
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You live in New York. You have NO excuse to be eating crappy pizza from a chain.
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Good, now people won't have to be subjected to their garbage pizza.
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Ivynn posted...

Surprised Papa Johns would have stores in New York. The people there aren't ignorant to what good pizza actually tastes like.

Upstate ny tyvm

What's with the sheer amount of ignorance in this topic?

Do people not read anything anymore?
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ForestLogic posted...

Ivynn posted...

Surprised Papa Johns would have stores in New York. The people there aren't ignorant to what good pizza actually tastes like.

This. Why the fuck are you buying Papa John's when you live in New York State, TC.

For that matter, why even have McDonald's or Jack in the Box there? Why have Panda Express when there are much better Chinese restaurants?

I could go on and on.
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Damn, where else can I pay $20 for a guaranteed bout of diarrhea????
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good luck with all that communism.

Minimum wage won't kill a good business. If the pay you offer can't keep up with inflation, go work for a smarter business person.
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The Admiral posted...

Liberal economic policies in action. This is exactly what people said would happen to many businesses when the minimum wage was raised, and people just put their head in the sand.

Chiming in with nonsense again, I see.
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Wtf? You're in NYC. You don't need pizza chains in NYC
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BlackHorse6969 posted...

Wtf? You're in NYC. You don't need pizza chains in NYC

Can't tell if satire...
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Makes sense. They can thrive without those spots, and dont profit if theyre paying that much money

CruelBuffalo posted...

TheVipaGTS posted...

Papa Johns struggles and blames everyone but themselves again.

This. Also dominos is better than Papa Johns

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Maybe people just decided they suck?
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Millennials why do they think so entitled to everything. Blame the CEO, wtf
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Wasn't there a point where they only needed to add like .10 cents to the cost of a pizza to give all their employees healthcare and refused? Obviously they'd rather close than treat their employees half decently.

Plus Papa John's is garbage anyways, especially for being in New York.
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RIP in peace
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Papa John's really striving to keep worst pizza chain title

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@BlackHorse6969 posted...

Wtf? You're in NYC. You don't need pizza chains in NYC

Do you think every single city in New York is in NYC?

A lot of people have this misconception tbh

I told my friends that in upstate NY there are places with farms and people go deer hunting and stuff, and they were like "wtf holy shit I thought it was all city"
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TheCyborgNinja posted...

Minimum wage won't kill a good business. If the pay you offer can't keep up with inflation, go work for a smarter business person.

A good (read:smart) business will simply replace all of its employees with automation once it's viable. This will happen. It will be interesting to see what the CE critics who are making fun of Papa Johns will say then.
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NinjaWarrior455 posted...

ViewtifulGrave posted...

The Admiral posted...

Damn_Underscore posted...

>Live in NY
>Get Papa John's

This is upstate NY though, not NYC.

Yeah, what region?

Utica

Not in Utica, no. It's more an Albany expression.
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Tmaster148 posted...

tennisdude818 posted...

Tmaster148 posted...

tennisdude818 posted...

Economics 101. If you make a commodity artificially expensive, you discourage its use. Leftists understand this when they want to understand it, like when they call for carbon taxes.

It's not like other pizza places are closing down. Papa John's simply isn't making a product people are willing to pay for. It's their fault.

Inflated labor costs hit the most vulnerable businesses first.

Clearly they aren't very good at running a business if an increase cost kills them completely.

Their profit margins are razor thin as it is. Increases in any cost mean either prices go up, or stores close down.
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jumi posted...

NinjaWarrior455 posted...

ViewtifulGrave posted...

The Admiral posted...

Damn_Underscore posted...

>Live in NY
>Get Papa John's

This is upstate NY though, not NYC.

Yeah, what region?

Utica

Not in Utica, no. It's more an Albany expression.

I see.
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darkjedilink posted...

Tmaster148 posted...

tennisdude818 posted...

Tmaster148 posted...

tennisdude818 posted...

Economics 101. If you make a commodity artificially expensive, you discourage its use. Leftists understand this when they want to understand it, like when they call for carbon taxes.

It's not like other pizza places are closing down. Papa John's simply isn't making a product people are willing to pay for. It's their fault.

Inflated labor costs hit the most vulnerable businesses first.

Clearly they aren't very good at running a business if an increase cost kills them completely.

Their profit margins are razor thin as it is. Increases in any cost mean either prices go up, or stores close down.

Which is still only a problem they are having. Other pizza places are still in business. They have a poor business strategy and are blaming anyone but themselves.
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Tmaster148 posted...

Which is still only a problem they are having. Other pizza places are still in business. They have a poor business strategy and are blaming anyone but themselves.

This is one person in one city.

Give me statistics on all pizza places in Rochester and then we can talk. Also future statistics till 2020, when minimum wage matures.

Remember, he's one person. If he decides one day it's not profitable, he has the power to shut down. Also remember, franchising is basically like being a small business just with a big business name.

Also, they'll likely be bought out by others, so they are probably just closed temporarily.
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