Current Events > If someone is severely mentally ill, kills someone, does s/he go to heaven?

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CruelBuffalo
03/22/18 7:23:19 PM
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Like does God excuse it?
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Zeeak4444
03/22/18 7:24:57 PM
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Doubt it.

If he denies you for heaven for things like not acknowledging his existence (even if you aren't from a western civilization) I can't imagine he gives leniency to severely mentally ill individuals.

If anything, it's "apart of his plan" and you're predestined to go to hell or something.
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CruelBuffalo
03/22/18 7:25:45 PM
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I thought there was a clause where if you dont know about God, you still go to heaven. Or was that Islam?
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DanHarenChamp
03/22/18 7:26:34 PM
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Depends, if its with a gun then its okay.
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Zeeak4444
03/22/18 7:30:56 PM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
I thought there was a clause where if you dont know about God, you still go to heaven. Or was that Islam?


I'm not positive myself as I know minimal at best about the "fine print" but every time I've asked anyone that was into theology or Christian themselves has told me that you still go to hell.

Take that with a grain of salt though because idk how reliable any of them are.
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BlueJester007
03/22/18 7:31:52 PM
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If a tree falls, and no one is around to hear it, will the chicken cross the road?
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hockeybub89
03/22/18 7:32:27 PM
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BlueJester007 posted...
If a tree falls, and no one is around to hear it, will the chicken cross the road?

Only if the pope shits in the woods
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CruelBuffalo
03/22/18 7:32:31 PM
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JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...
Iirc the Catechism in my opinion did a pretty poor job at explaining this (or at least my RCIA class did). The answer was basically that God is just and righteous so "he" will know what to do and do what is just and right.

I had asked about what happens to child soldiers and brainwash victims.


Lol you little smartass, but thats a good question. That would be my thought of a fair God
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RE_expert44
03/22/18 7:33:30 PM
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Some religions hitch on it
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chill02
03/22/18 7:35:21 PM
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I mean, if he really knows everything, doesn't it mean he already knows whether you're going to hell or not?
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CruelBuffalo
03/22/18 7:36:31 PM
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chill02 posted...
I mean, if he really knows everything, doesn't it mean he already knows whether you're going to hell or not?


Thats the belief of predestination I think
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Knowledge_King
03/22/18 10:46:15 PM
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Pretty sure mental illness already disqualifies you from heaven or something.
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008Zulu
03/22/18 10:50:40 PM
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Knowledge_King posted...
Pretty sure mental illness already disqualifies you from heaven or something.

No, it doesn't. The Bible says you will be healed of your affliction upon entering.

If it's actual homicide, and not self defense, then I think you are bound for the warmer place.
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a42ozslushie
03/22/18 10:53:13 PM
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CNN Breaking News! GameFAQs user OWNS religious people! You wont BELIEVE what happens next!
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CruelBuffalo
03/22/18 10:54:44 PM
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008Zulu posted...
Knowledge_King posted...
Pretty sure mental illness already disqualifies you from heaven or something.

No, it doesn't. The Bible says you will be healed of your affliction upon entering.

If it's actual homicide, and not self defense, then I think you are bound for the warmer place.


Well someone with mental illness doesn't have all their faculties...so it's a bit unfair to hold them to that same standard. what if they're schitzo and can't control themselves.

a42ozslushie posted...
CNN Breaking News! GameFAQs user OWNS religious people! You wont BELIEVE what happens next!


Who is this post even addressed at?
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ShinigamiSoul
03/22/18 10:56:07 PM
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The only action that can put you in hell is not accepting Jesus Christ. I believe infants and possibly others who lack the capacity to choose Jesus are allowed in heaven, though.

Speaking of infants, I wonder if they default to a certain older age when they get the in...hmm.
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008Zulu
03/23/18 2:23:23 AM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
Well someone with mental illness doesn't have all their faculties...so it's a bit unfair to hold them to that same standard. what if they're schitzo and can't control themselves.

But they have their faculties upon dying the death, so... maybe if they themselves feel guilty, then that self-guilt will determine where they go. Yeah it's stacked against them. It's God, he's not perfect.
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Ray-Ray
03/24/18 7:24:48 PM
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questions like these are why we can never put ourselves in God's shoes

we can never know what objective morality is so you can find reason for and against this but our feeble human minds are limited unlike god's
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bevan306
03/24/18 7:30:15 PM
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god doesn't excuse it, if you're killed by a mentally ill person you have to go to hell
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assassinCrash
03/24/18 7:34:35 PM
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It surprises me that some people still believe in this fairy tale.
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CruelBuffalo
03/24/18 7:50:49 PM
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assassinCrash posted...
It surprises me that some people still believe in this fairy tale.

Even if youre an atheist you can still discuss thoughts based on the teachings
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smoke_break
03/24/18 7:59:21 PM
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assassinCrash posted...
It surprises me that some people still believe in this fairy tale.

Why post in this topic?
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