Current Events > Israel admits bombing suspected nuclear reactor in 2007

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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-43481803

Israel has for the first time confirmed that it destroyed a suspected nuclear reactor being built in Syria in 2007.

The military said fighter jets bombed the al-Kibar facility in Deir al-Zour province, 450km (280 miles) north-east of Damascus, as it neared completion.

Syria's government has repeatedly denied that it was building a reactor.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Israel was determined to prevent its enemies from obtaining nuclear weapons.

"The Israeli government, the Israel Defense Forces and the Mossad [intelligence services] prevented Syria from developing nuclear capability. They are worthy of full praise for this," he wrote on Twitter.

"Israel's policy was and remains consistent - to prevent our enemies from arming themselves with nuclear weapons."

In 1981, in a surprise attack, Israeli jets destroyed a nuclear reactor being constructed south-east of Baghdad by the Iraqi government of Saddam Hussein.

It was never in any real doubt that Israel was behind the strike on the al-Kibar facility in the Syrian desert a decade ago. What matters about today's confirmation is its timing and the vivid way in which the Israeli military has chosen to publicise it.

The message being projected via the black-and-white pictures from the planes' cockpits is this: that Israel would be prepared to put Iranian nuclear facilities in the planes' crosshairs in the future.

Israel accuses Iran of maintaining nuclear ambitions - amounting to an existential threat - and believes its forces are trying to establish themselves permanently over its northern border in Syria - a claim Iran rejects.

The country may hope to add a sharper military edge to American diplomatic pressure on Europe to toughen its stance on the 2015 nuclear deal between Iran and six world powers - an agreement detested by Israel.

But it is a move that once again raises the stakes in the volatile atmosphere among regional powers engaged in Syria's seven-year long war.

striking it was likely a good idea, but i'm not sure using it as an indirect threat against iran is.
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Israel? Never heard of it. Do you mean Palestine?
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Nobody can defend themselves as the Israelis and their US pawns take over the Middle East. Sad.
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Israel is very, VERY open about the fact that they feel that they should be exempt from the rules and laws that they push on the western world. Its jaw-dropping sometimes. Theyre literally an ethnostate and they shame our nation for not welcoming others?? They have a massive wall built and they tell us to have open borders??


Get real.
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DavidWong posted...

Israel? Never heard of it. Do you mean Palestine?

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DavidWong posted...

Israel? Never heard of it. Do you mean Palestine?

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a42ozslushie posted...

s the Israelis and their US pawns take over the Middle East.

Honestly the Middle East would probably be safer and more secure if Israel did take it over
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UnfairRepresent posted...

Honestly the Middle East would probably be safer and more secure if Israel did take it over

It would be very interesting at the least, considering it'd likely lead to the holocaust 2.0 with Israel at the helm this time.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

a42ozslushie posted...

s the Israelis and their US pawns take over the Middle East.

Honestly the Middle East would probably be safer and more secure if Israel did take it over

You sound like a teenager. You know jack shit about the Middle East.

Payzmaykr posted...

Israel is very, VERY open about the fact that they feel that they should be exempt from the rules and laws that they push on the western world. Its jaw-dropping sometimes. Theyre literally an ethnostate and they shame our nation for not welcoming others?? They have a massive wall built and they tell us to have open borders??


Get real.

And they're adamant about making sure no one else in the region has nuclear weapons, even though everyone knows they have their own arsenal.

Do people seriously not realize a big part of the USA's adventures in the middle east is to protect Israel and Saudi Arabia?

Why else do you think the same people who pushed for the Iraq war are now pushing for war with Iran.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

a42ozslushie posted...

s the Israelis and their US pawns take over the Middle East.

Honestly the Middle East would probably be safer and more secure if Israel did take it over

Hahaha
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DavidWong posted...

Israel? Never heard of it. Do you mean Palestine?

Palestine? Do you mean Judea?
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Palestine isn't a real country

Fishy posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

Honestly the Middle East would probably be safer and more secure if Israel did take it over

It would be very interesting at the least, considering it'd likely lead to the holocaust 2.0 with Israel at the helm this time.

If a holocaust 2.0 ever happens it will be directed at Israel since that's what their enemies literally want
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UnfairRepresent posted...

a42ozslushie posted...

s the Israelis and their US pawns take over the Middle East.

Honestly the Middle East would probably be safer and more secure if Israel did take it over

honestly you're full of shit.
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israel is trash
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MakoReizei posted...

Palestine isn't a real country

Israel isn't a real country. It'd literally be like somebody coming in and saying that New York is now a completely different country and also a Buddhist/Muslim country. And by the way, you Christian New Yorkers, get out of our country.
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DavidWong posted...

MakoReizei posted...

Palestine isn't a real country

Israel isn't a real country. It'd literally be like somebody coming in and saying that New York is now a completely different country and also a Buddhist/Muslim country. And by the way, you Christian New Yorkers, get out of our country.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestine_war
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War
Israel won the right to exist.
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DavidWong posted...

MakoReizei posted...

Palestine isn't a real country

Israel isn't a real country. It'd literally be like somebody coming in and saying that New York is now a completely different country and also a Buddhist/Muslim country. And by the way, you Christian New Yorkers, get out of our country.

Ah, so Jesus was a muslim?
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rabbi_baby posted...

Ah, so Jesus was a muslim?

As Muslim as he was Christian, sure.
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Distant_Rainbow posted...

rabbi_baby posted...

Ah, so Jesus was a muslim?

As Muslim as he was Christian, sure.

So, he wasn't a Jew? Jews weren't the primary inhabitants of the region during that time period?
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Delta_F14 posted...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestine_war
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War
Israel won the right to exist.

It doesn't make it right. If Russia drops its bombs on the US (I know you're going to say the US will turn around and annihilate them, but play devils advocate for a second here) and occupies the US, would you say "yeah fair enough they won the right to take over our country"?

rabbi_baby posted...

Ah, so Jesus was a muslim?

It's actually irrelevant. It was 2000 years ago. Not a reason to say "hey we're taking this land by force now thanks".
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MakoReizei posted...

Palestine isn't a real country

Fishy posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

Honestly the Middle East would probably be safer and more secure if Israel did take it over

It would be very interesting at the least, considering it'd likely lead to the holocaust 2.0 with Israel at the helm this time.

If a holocaust 2.0 ever happens it will be directed at Israel since that's what their enemies literally want

Yeah .

Nations literally are openly saying they want to eradicate Israel.

Meanwhile Israel had the power to eradicate other nations and is not.

Claiming they being the holocaust is absurd
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rabbi_baby posted...

So, he wasn't a Jew? Jews weren't the primary inhabitants of the region during that time period?

So in your opinion if the Greeks, Romans, Persians or whatever ancient empire declared war on the rest of their former empires because they were "primary inhabitants of the land", that'd be okay?
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I'd just like to also add that I am not anti-Semitic, but I am pro-Palestine.
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DavidWong posted...

MakoReizei posted...

Palestine isn't a real country

Israel isn't a real country. It'd literally be like somebody coming in and saying that New York is now a completely different country and also a Buddhist/Muslim country. And by the way, you Christian New Yorkers, get out of our country.

So what countries are "real" by that definition?

Because spoiler, everybody conquered somebody else.
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a42ozslushie posted...

Nobody can defend themselves as the Israelis and their US pawns take over the Middle East. Sad.

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DavidWong posted...

rabbi_baby posted...

So, he wasn't a Jew? Jews weren't the primary inhabitants of the region during that time period?

So in your opinion if the Greeks, Romans, Persians or whatever ancient empire declared war on the rest of their former empires because they were "primary inhabitants of the land", that'd be okay?

This is an odd thought process considering this stuff happened recently with the Ukraine and has been going on in modern times for off and on and everyone generally allows for it to happen.

Israel and Palestine is a sensitive subject for a lot of reasons. Its more than just land to both of them. Its not as simple as You stole our land and we want it back. Its a major holy site for three of the biggest religions in the world and the birthplace for two of them. Dumbing it down to a simple territory grab doesnt make sense when explaining why both sides are so nuts over it.

OmegaShinkai posted...

Payzmaykr posted...

Israel is very, VERY open about the fact that they feel that they should be exempt from the rules and laws that they push on the western world. Its jaw-dropping sometimes. Theyre literally an ethnostate and they shame our nation for not welcoming others?? They have a massive wall built and they tell us to have open borders??


Get real.

And they're adamant about making sure no one else in the region has nuclear weapons, even though everyone knows they have their own arsenal.

Exactly. Its funny how the world is waking up and starting to realize that Israel has had WAY too much global power for WAY too long.

Plain and simple: youre not better than us. Youre not exempt from following rules
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Payzmaykr posted...

OmegaShinkai posted...

Payzmaykr posted...

Israel is very, VERY open about the fact that they feel that they should be exempt from the rules and laws that they push on the western world. Its jaw-dropping sometimes. Theyre literally an ethnostate and they shame our nation for not welcoming others?? They have a massive wall built and they tell us to have open borders??


Get real.

And they're adamant about making sure no one else in the region has nuclear weapons, even though everyone knows they have their own arsenal.

Exactly. Its funny how the world is waking up and starting to realize that Israel has had WAY too much global power for WAY too long.

Plain and simple: youre not better than us. Youre not exempt from following rules

To be fair to Israel, the nations they are hindering nuclear development from are openly saying they want to eradicate Israel.

The scales are not even. The US is cool with the UK having nukes but not North Korea and ISIS.

Do you consider that contradictory? Because it's not
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No, I consider it contradictory that they expect every other nation to follow rules, except for them. That doesnt work for me. Nuclear weapons are one of many issues
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This is a great story about a nation state making a tough decision to prevent the illegal proliferation of nuclear weapons that has directly changed the world for the better.
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Payzmaykr posted...

No, I consider it contradictory that they expect every other nation to follow rules, except for them. That doesnt work for me. Nuclear weapons are one of many issues

That's naive
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DavidWong posted...

I'd just like to also add that I am not anti-Semitic, but I am pro-Palestine.

most palestinians don't want israel to not exist as a nation

they either want right-to-return or a fully independent palestine that is not a slave state to israel

you're taking an extreme position that is held by no one except hamas and the grand mufti of jerusalem's zombified corpse

also the original joke is "Do you mean occupied Palestine?"
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DavidWong posted...

Israel? Never heard of it. Do you mean Palestine?

Ow, I cut myself on the edge of this post
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so yeah. the Middle East is fucked up.
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Payzmaykr posted...

Israel is very, VERY open about the fact that they feel that they should be exempt from the rules and laws that they push on the western world. Its jaw-dropping sometimes. Theyre literally an ethnostate and they shame our nation for not welcoming others?? They have a massive wall built and they tell us to have open borders??


Get real.

I've never heard about Israelis telling the US to do any of that....

Itachi157 posted...

Payzmaykr posted...

Israel is very, VERY open about the fact that they feel that they should be exempt from the rules and laws that they push on the western world. Its jaw-dropping sometimes. Theyre literally an ethnostate and they shame our nation for not welcoming others?? They have a massive wall built and they tell us to have open borders??


Get real.

I've never heard about Israelis telling the US to do any of that....

its lolcoast dude

don't respond to
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I support hindering Islamic countries from getting the bomb by any means necessary. And yes I am aware of Pakistan.
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

I support hindering Islamic countries from getting the bomb by any means necessary. And yes I am aware of Pakistan.

By any means necessary I assume you are talking about nuking them.
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Payzmaykr posted...

Theyre literally an ethnostate

Jews of all ethnicity are welcome in Israel and non-Jews have equal rights there anyways.
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Ben_Ruggiero posted...

DavidWong posted...

Israel? Never heard of it. Do you mean Palestine?

Almost cut myself on these edgy shitposts.

FWIW, denial of Israel's existence is a primary tenet of neo-Nazism.
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Darkman124 posted...

DavidWong posted...

I'd just like to also add that I am not anti-Semitic, but I am pro-Palestine.

most palestinians don't want israel to not exist as a nation

they either want right-to-return or a fully independent palestine that is not a slave state to israel

you're taking an extreme position that is held by no one except hamas and the grand mufti of jerusalem's zombified corpse

also the original joke is "Do you mean occupied Palestine?"

The Palestinians have actually had numerous opportunities to create an independent state, but have repeatedly rejected the offers:

In 1937, the Peel Commission proposed the partition of Palestine and the creation of an Arab state.
In 1939, the British White Paper proposed the creation of a unitary Arab state.
In 1947, the UN would have created an even larger Arab state as part of its partition plan.
The 1979 Egypt-Israel peace negotiations offered the Palestinians autonomy, which would almost certainly have led to full independence.
The Oslo agreements of the 1990s laid out a path for Palestinian independence, but the process was derailed by terrorism.
In 2000, Prime Minister Ehud Barak offered to create a Palestinian state in all of Gaza and 97 percent of the West Bank.
In 2008, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert offered to withdraw from almost the entire West Bank and partition Jerusalem on a demographic basis.
In addition 1948 to 1967, Israel did not control the West Bank. The Palestinians could have demanded an independent state from the Jordanians. On the contrary whilst Jordan was in control Arafat said there was no longer a claim as it was no longer part of Palestine. Once it was back in Israeli hands it miraculously became disputed land again! This is one of many reasons Jews and Israelis are cynical.

In 2000, Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak offered to withdraw from 97 percent of the West Bank and 100 percent of the Gaza Strip. In addition, he agreed to dismantle 63 isolated settlements. In exchange for the 3 percent annexation of the West Bank, Israel said it would give up territory in the Negev that would increase the size of the Gaza territory by roughly a third.

Barak also made previously unthinkable concessions on Jerusalem, agreeing that Arab neighborhoods of East Jerusalem would become the capital of the new state. The Palestinians would maintain control over their holy places and have religious sovereignty over the Temple Mount.

Arafat was asked to agree to Israeli sovereignty over the parts of the Western Wall religiously significant to Jews (i.e., not the entire Temple Mount), and three early warning stations in the Jordan Valley, which Israel would withdraw from after six years. Most important, however, Arafat was expected to agree that the conflict with Israel was over at the end of the negotiations. This was the true deal breaker. Arafat was not willing to end the conflict. For him to end the conflict is to end himself, said Ross.
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Oh great now this topic is really heating up

*grabs popcorn*
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s0nicfan posted...

The Palestinians have actually had numerous opportunities to create an independent state, but have repeatedly rejected the offers:

Oh, I know. I'm speaking of the people, though, not their leaders (who have invariably been acting in realpolitik for themselves and not the best interests of their electorate).
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Darkman124 posted...

position that is held by no one except hamas

Might as well say Trumps policies are held by no one except his adminstration and US Congress.

That's a pretty damning except
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UnfairRepresent posted...

Might as well say Trumps policies are held by no one except his adminstration and US Congress.

That's a pretty damning except

hamas only controls the gaza strip

fatah continues to hold power in the west bank, where the majority of palestinians live.
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