Current Events > Out of curiosity is Star Wars 8 (The Last Jedi) written by those Lost writers?

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Plot threads that go nowhere, completely useless sideplots... it seems as if the idiots behind Lost were responsible for this movie, thinking that subverting expectations even in a non sequitur manner is good writing or makes for a compelling/entertaining movie.
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What was useless or went nowhere exactly?
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The dumpy asian girl with Finn in the casino. There was no point to those scenes at all. What they did ultimately didn't affect the outcome of the movie and it would have been better if they'd never gone. It was a weird subplot that makes me wonder how many script revisions the movie went through.
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saspa posted...

What they did ultimately didn't affect the outcome of the movie

Actually they super did have an effect on the movie. If they didn't go to Cantonica, they wouldn't have picked up DJ. If they didn't pick up DJ, he wouldn't have switched sides, and the TFO would never have discovered the fleeing transports, and the Resistance would have likely safely escaped to Crait with the TFO none the wiser.

The whole point of the subplot, in addition to progressing the relationship between Finn and Rose, was that it was an example of Poe's devil-may-care and heroic attitudes leading to problems further down the line, since he was the one who organized the effort.

Also the casino environment offered a break from the grim scenario of the pursuit.
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It gave Rose and Finn screen time to develop a relationship. They also connected with a boy in the stables that was left with the sign of the Resistance. The boy was shown as the last scene in the film so theres probably importance in making that connection.

I understand they didnt end up saving the day, as that expectation was subverted like many things in the film, but I dont think it was completely useless because of that.
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Was finn and rose a relationship that anyone wanted to see developed? Did anyone even want to see rose? still a bizarre casting choice.
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saspa posted...

Did anyone even want to see rose?

I'm sorry she wasn't as physically attractive as you wanted her to be.
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CyricZ posted...

saspa posted...

What they did ultimately didn't affect the outcome of the movie

Actually they super did have an effect on the movie. If they didn't go to Cantonica, they wouldn't have picked up DJ. If they didn't pick up DJ, he wouldn't have switched sides, and the TFO would never have discovered the fleeing transports, and the Resistance would have likely safely escaped to Crait with the TFO none the wiser.

The whole point of the subplot, in addition to progressing the relationship between Finn and Rose, was that it was an example of Poe's devil-may-care and heroic attitudes leading to problems further down the line, since he was the one who organized the effort.

Also the casino environment offered a break from the grim scenario of the pursuit.

He wasn't on a side to switch from...
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saspa posted...

He wasn't on a side to switch from...

True. I just kept the wording simple for the sake of brevity.
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CyricZ posted...

saspa posted...

Did anyone even want to see rose?

I'm sorry she wasn't as physically attractive as you wanted her to be.

what a dumb post. him having a love interest is in itself unnecessary
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That whole subplot is what you call filler. They needed to give Fin something to do in this movie.
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8964752 posted...

what a dumb post. him having a love interest is in itself unnecessary

He called her the "dumpy Asian girl" when he knew her name. I'm calling him out on his intent here.

As for the unnecessary aspect, perhaps he didn't need a love interest, but having a character to interact with in his subplot was important. It also helped him get away from his weird obsession with Rey.
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I think one of my biggest issues with the ST as a whole is none of the aliens look particularly interesting. Like all the aliens in the Cantina in ANH looked cool. All the ones at Maz's place and that casino sucked.

Kolibri X posted...

That whole subplot is what you call filler. They needed to give Fin something to do in this movie.

I'm not even a fan of that word and even I have to say that subplot was pointless. I don't particularly like using that word so I'll just say what it was, an aimless subplot.
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And the fact that the entire movie is them on a spaceship trying to escape, with none of that sense of exploration of going from planet to planet? It's just boring. You'd think that the casino planet scene would be welcome in that regard but it is also just a waste of time.

I'm just wondering what happened. It's weird because I remember reading about rogue one have script/filming problems but I enjoyed that movie a lot more than I thought I would, and I similarly liked star wars 7 more than I thought I would.
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It's weird, the director is the dude behind Brick, a movie I love, and Looper, a movie I liked for the most part. So he has made good movies before, so maybe it's not his fault.
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I wouldnt bother making a topic about The Last Jedi on CE. Youre gonna run into a few ardent defenders like itt who feel the need to make multiple posts defending their positive view/outlook on the movie regardless of your arguments or critiques. Its become a bit of a thing around here.
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It is hard to critic the movie when there's an overwhelming voice of hate for it due to "what it did to the characters" and whatnot. Others who don't really care about that stuff just find it to be a bad movie, which is what it was. But that opinion is drowned in a sea of hate pitted against overly enthusiastic defenders.
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