Current Events > I still can't fathom how bad The Last Jedi was

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ASithLord7 posted...

Time to find a new gimmick.

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Offworlder1 posted...

Anyone who is seriously saying the PT is worse then the Disney fan fiction needs to go home and seriously rethink their lives.

The PT had characters you could root for and care about, epic set pieces, pay off at the end of every single film, and a soundtrack that has great music. Lets also not forget the PT finally fleshed out the highly anticipated The Clone Wars conflict the original movie referanced as a earth shattering event.

It also gave us some dank memes












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VectorChaos posted...

Why does Anakin look like a plastic toy in the bottom one?
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i'm pretty surprised that some people liked it. i'm absolutely shocked that rebel and doomart liked it

FrenchCrunch posted...

i'm pretty surprised that some people liked it. i'm absolutely shocked that rebel and doomart liked it

I don't think anyone, especially rebel liked it. I think some people just feel the need to irrationally defend starwars even if the movie was so bad it made attack of the clones look Oscar worthy.
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...

I don't think anyone, especially rebel liked it. I think some people just feel the need to irrationally defend starwars even if the movie was so bad it made attack of the clones look Oscar worthy.

So what you're saying is apparently Im unable to form my own opinion on something?

Well form an opinion different from yours I guess
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I find it amusing when people like tc get so passionately angry about a movie.
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All the haters lowered my expectations of the movie so much that when I see it I will probably like it for what it is. Thanks haters.
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...

FrenchCrunch posted...

i'm pretty surprised that some people liked it. i'm absolutely shocked that rebel and doomart liked it

I don't think anyone, especially rebel liked it. I think some people just feel the need to irrationally defend starwars even if the movie was so bad it made attack of the clones look Oscar worthy.

attack of the clones is an infinitely worse movie than the last jedi. the last jedi is still better than the prequels imo

I liked it. I mean it had plenty of stupid moments, but they didn't bother me that much. I just don't really get what people were expecting with it.

I view Star Wars like I view Halo. The series should be over with (aside from expanded universe material) but it isn't because they make money. So everything after is a bonus if it's good, and it can be ignored if it's not good.
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FrenchCrunch posted...

Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...

FrenchCrunch posted...

i'm pretty surprised that some people liked it. i'm absolutely shocked that rebel and doomart liked it

I don't think anyone, especially rebel liked it. I think some people just feel the need to irrationally defend starwars even if the movie was so bad it made attack of the clones look Oscar worthy.

attack of the clones is an infinitely worse movie than the last jedi. the last jedi is still better than the prequels imo

5>4>6>3>R1>1>2>7>>>>>>>>8
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Doom_Art posted...

Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...

I don't think anyone, especially rebel liked it. I think some people just feel the need to irrationally defend starwars even if the movie was so bad it made attack of the clones look Oscar worthy.

So what you're saying is apparently Im unable to form my own opinion on something?

Well form an opinion different from yours I guess

I believe you ;)
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...

FrenchCrunch posted...

i'm pretty surprised that some people liked it. i'm absolutely shocked that rebel and doomart liked it

I don't think anyone, especially rebel liked it. I think some people just feel the need to irrationally defend starwars even if the movie was so bad it made attack of the clones look Oscar worthy.

Imagine hating TLJ that much? All because the Feminist Admiral didn't tell the rebellious Poe about the plan?

Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...

5>4>6>3>R1>1>2>7>>>>>>>>8

4 > 5 > 7 > 6 > 8 > 3 > 2 > 1

IMO ofc

GeneralKenobi85 posted...

I liked it. I mean it had plenty of stupid moments, but they didn't bother me that much. I just don't really get what people were expecting with it.

I view Star Wars like I view Halo. The series should be over with (aside from expanded universe material) but it isn't because they make money. So everything after is a bonus if it's good, and it can be ignored if it's not good.

There are plenty of stupid moments in the OT, but they get a pass because of childhood "nostalgia".

Ammonitida posted...

GeneralKenobi85 posted...

I liked it. I mean it had plenty of stupid moments, but they didn't bother me that much. I just don't really get what people were expecting with it.

I view Star Wars like I view Halo. The series should be over with (aside from expanded universe material) but it isn't because they make money. So everything after is a bonus if it's good, and it can be ignored if it's not good.

There are plenty of stupid moments in the OT, but they get a pass because of childhood "nostalgia".

Like what? Aside from some of the Special Edition changes and additions.
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Ammonitida posted...

Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...

FrenchCrunch posted...

i'm pretty surprised that some people liked it. i'm absolutely shocked that rebel and doomart liked it

I don't think anyone, especially rebel liked it. I think some people just feel the need to irrationally defend starwars even if the movie was so bad it made attack of the clones look Oscar worthy.

Imagine hating TLJ that much? All because the Feminist Admiral didn't tell the rebellious Poe about the plan?

Why is the Admiral feminist? And why would that be your biggest beef with such a terrible movie.
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...

Ammonitida posted...

Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...

FrenchCrunch posted...

i'm pretty surprised that some people liked it. i'm absolutely shocked that rebel and doomart liked it

I don't think anyone, especially rebel liked it. I think some people just feel the need to irrationally defend starwars even if the movie was so bad it made attack of the clones look Oscar worthy.

Imagine hating TLJ that much? All because the Feminist Admiral didn't tell the rebellious Poe about the plan?

Why is the Admiral feminist? And why would that be your biggest beef with such a terrible movie.

I think most people just say that because pink hair.
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FrenchCrunch posted...

Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...

5>4>6>3>R1>1>2>7>>>>>>>>8

4 > 5 > 7 > 6 > 8 > 3 > 2 > 1

IMO ofc

8>7>6>4>5>3>2>1

8, 1 (2012 3D re-release) and 7 are the only ones I saw in the theaters. 7 was fun, but TLJ had me on the edge of my seat. The final showdown on the salt planet ranks as one of my top cinematic experiences. The buzz from that scene lasted for a week. Did I mention that the theater roared with applause when the twist was revealed? Nothing like that happened in TFA (which played it so safe).

As for Phantom Menace 2012, it was a bad movie even in 3D, with only the Darth Maul duel at the end being the only highlight. 2 and especially 3 are so much better.

R1>5>4>7>6>8>3>1>2
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...

Ammonitida posted...

Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...

FrenchCrunch posted...

i'm pretty surprised that some people liked it. i'm absolutely shocked that rebel and doomart liked it

I don't think anyone, especially rebel liked it. I think some people just feel the need to irrationally defend starwars even if the movie was so bad it made attack of the clones look Oscar worthy.

Imagine hating TLJ that much? All because the Feminist Admiral didn't tell the rebellious Poe about the plan?

Why is the Admiral feminist? And why would that be your biggest beef with such a terrible movie.

It's not a beef of mine, but she is hated by many because they perceived her as a SJW feminist based on her looks and conduct.

GeneralKenobi85 posted...

Ammonitida posted...

GeneralKenobi85 posted...

I liked it. I mean it had plenty of stupid moments, but they didn't bother me that much. I just don't really get what people were expecting with it.

I view Star Wars like I view Halo. The series should be over with (aside from expanded universe material) but it isn't because they make money. So everything after is a bonus if it's good, and it can be ignored if it's not good.

There are plenty of stupid moments in the OT, but they get a pass because of childhood "nostalgia".

Like what? Aside from some of the Special Edition changes and additions.

Like Luke falling 100 feet to his.....tube that conveniently led out of cloud city where the rebels conveniently found him hanging from a post.

Ammonitida posted...

GeneralKenobi85 posted...

Ammonitida posted...

GeneralKenobi85 posted...

I liked it. I mean it had plenty of stupid moments, but they didn't bother me that much. I just don't really get what people were expecting with it.

I view Star Wars like I view Halo. The series should be over with (aside from expanded universe material) but it isn't because they make money. So everything after is a bonus if it's good, and it can be ignored if it's not good.

There are plenty of stupid moments in the OT, but they get a pass because of childhood "nostalgia".

Like what? Aside from some of the Special Edition changes and additions.

Like Luke falling 100 feet to his.....tube that conveniently led out of cloud city where the rebels conveniently found him hanging from a post.

So the answer is no and you're just nitpicking. Okay then. And TLJ had issues other than Holdo not being upfront with Poe.
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Ammonitida posted...

GeneralKenobi85 posted...

Ammonitida posted...

GeneralKenobi85 posted...

I liked it. I mean it had plenty of stupid moments, but they didn't bother me that much. I just don't really get what people were expecting with it.

I view Star Wars like I view Halo. The series should be over with (aside from expanded universe material) but it isn't because they make money. So everything after is a bonus if it's good, and it can be ignored if it's not good.

There are plenty of stupid moments in the OT, but they get a pass because of childhood "nostalgia".

Like what? Aside from some of the Special Edition changes and additions.

Like Luke falling 100 feet to his.....tube that conveniently led out of cloud city where the rebels conveniently found him hanging from a post.

This is a good example. I have actually seen people argue that Vader or Luke himself used the Force to guide him into the tube, lol.

But it's pretty clear Luke and Leia forcecommunicated in order for Lando to know to come get him.
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Ammonitida posted...

Like Luke falling 100 feet to his.....tube that conveniently led out of cloud city where the rebels conveniently found him hanging from a post.

How is that stupid? Convenient =/= stupid

GeneralKenobi85 posted...

Ammonitida posted...

GeneralKenobi85 posted...

Ammonitida posted...

GeneralKenobi85 posted...

I liked it. I mean it had plenty of stupid moments, but they didn't bother me that much. I just don't really get what people were expecting with it.

I view Star Wars like I view Halo. The series should be over with (aside from expanded universe material) but it isn't because they make money. So everything after is a bonus if it's good, and it can be ignored if it's not good.

There are plenty of stupid moments in the OT, but they get a pass because of childhood "nostalgia".

Like what? Aside from some of the Special Edition changes and additions.

Like Luke falling 100 feet to his.....tube that conveniently led out of cloud city where the rebels conveniently found him hanging from a post.

So the answer is no and you're just nitpicking. Okay then. And TLJ had issues other than Holdo not being upfront with Poe.

The answer is yes, and none of the "issues" in TLJ ruined my enjoyment of the movie. I loved the comedy (except that scene where a rock fell on some aliens below, but many in the audience even laughed at that). I had no issue with Holdo not being upfront with Poe considering Poe's prior conduct. The throne room scene was even better than the one in ROTJ (my favorite of the OT), and the final showdown is probably the greatest scene in Star Wars history.

It absolutely crushes the joke of a movie Phantom Menace 2012. Even the 3D couldn't save it. I still don't know what that movie was even about. Amazing how anyone could place that garbage above TLJ.

I don't see how luke running from Bader was anywhere near dumb, let alone as dumb as some things from ep8

Ammonitida posted...

GeneralKenobi85 posted...

Ammonitida posted...

GeneralKenobi85 posted...

Ammonitida posted...

GeneralKenobi85 posted...

I liked it. I mean it had plenty of stupid moments, but they didn't bother me that much. I just don't really get what people were expecting with it.

I view Star Wars like I view Halo. The series should be over with (aside from expanded universe material) but it isn't because they make money. So everything after is a bonus if it's good, and it can be ignored if it's not good.

There are plenty of stupid moments in the OT, but they get a pass because of childhood "nostalgia".

Like what? Aside from some of the Special Edition changes and additions.

Like Luke falling 100 feet to his.....tube that conveniently led out of cloud city where the rebels conveniently found him hanging from a post.

So the answer is no and you're just nitpicking. Okay then. And TLJ had issues other than Holdo not being upfront with Poe.

The answer is yes, and none of the "issues" in TLJ ruined my enjoyment of the movie. I loved the comedy (except that scene where a rock fell on some aliens below, but many in the audience even laughed at that). I had no issue with Holdo not being upfront with Poe considering Poe's prior conduct. The throne room scene was even better than the one in ROTJ (my favorite of the OT), and the final showdown is probably the greatest scene in Star Wars history.

It absolutely crushes the joke of a movie Phantom Menace 2012. Even the 3D couldn't save it. I still don't know what that movie was even about. Amazing how anyone could place that garbage above TLJ.

Well I'll agree that the throne room scene is pretty cool. Probably the best in the new trilogy. Definitely doesn't match ROTJ though.
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Ammonitida posted...

FrenchCrunch posted...

Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...

5>4>6>3>R1>1>2>7>>>>>>>>8

4 > 5 > 7 > 6 > 8 > 3 > 2 > 1

IMO ofc

8>7>6>4>5>3>2>1

I finally understand the need for safe spaces. I have never been so triggered.

7 was pretty bad but at least Han made it fun and you could pretend it was a good lead up to an amazing trilogy.

8 was just an absolute shit show.
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NibeIungsnarf posted...

Ammonitida posted...

Like Luke falling 100 feet to his.....tube that conveniently led out of cloud city where the rebels conveniently found him hanging from a post.

How is that stupid? Convenient =/= stupid

It could be, in certain circumstances, but the tube part is not a particularly important plot point and serves a pretty clear purpose.

I mean, what changes story-wise if Luke and Vader fought their way outside onto a dock somewhere and he jumps from there? They wanted the environment to be enclosed for drama/film-making reasons, so they put a tube for him to fall into. Perfectly acceptable.

It's a far cry from Obi-wan Kenobi tracking an assassin and stumbling upon the potential to win a war nobody knew was brewing. What changes if he doesn't? Well, the Republic is overthrown. This is when convenience is stupid.
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Kylo Ren caught a fucking blaster bolt. That was fucking awesome. He's gonna be such a great villain. Oh shit he's just a whiny half trained man child that throws temper tantrums all the time.

That's ok. At least we have snoke. He's the real villain. Plus the knights of ren are pretty cool. And they're all slaughtered leaving half trained tantrum boy in charge.

Why is everything Finn says so cringy chrome dome? Idk. Why does he act like a bad ass after the chick beats him and he lucks out by landing on something. What was his purpose besides being a coward and fucking everything up? Oh, he's gonna sacrifice himself to save the rebellion? That's kinda cool and the little Asian girl ruined it.

And the little Asian girl didn't even die. She gave some cringy line (I get what she sees in Finn. They Cringe it out hard.)and dies but then she's still alive.

I wonder how they're gonna handle Leia since Carrie fisher passed away. Ship explosion? Kinda a weak death but whate... Wait wtf she's flying through space. OK. She lived through the movie. That's fucking weird.

Admiral pink hair rams her ship through the enemy ship? That's bad ass. The kind of heroes sacrifice that would have been perfect for one of the faces of the franchise. Especially ones who's actress passed during filming. Also why not do that earlier when they were murdering everyone.

By the way everyone got fucking murdered. There is barely a rebellion less. 3rd one is either gonna need a huge time jump or it likely won't make sense.

At least Chewbacca is still bad ass. Swooping in to save the day and... Nope ruined by merchandise penguins.

Poe looked like Han Solo's heir apparent and is still barely used.

Rey is still untrained but hey she's perfect at everything.

At least we got Luke though. And they ruined his character and turned him into a hermit that doesn't want to help and doesn't want to be found. Except for the map he left but I guess he only kinda doesn't want to be found. Whatever. I'll forgive it because he came back and were gonna get the title fight we want. The theater is amped. Luke gonns pulling down walkers with the force and then giving ren the business. Nevermind he's a force projection. And Luke's dead. Wait Leia lived and luke died? But Carrie and Mark. Never mind fuck this movie.
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It was a mediocre movie, not a travesty upon filmmaking. 2/3 of the prequels were worse in terms of scripting, acting, and direction.

I get not liking it but man, you're just woefully, woefully underexposed to movies as a medium if you think it was that bad.
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Jake Skywalker is the biggest loser in SW.
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I'm in the camp of "TC is bullshitting for attention", personally.
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Doom_Art posted...

Darmik posted...

What is it about the internet and hyperbole? lol

that's i think at the core of it

people love to hyperbole up in shit, then they surround themselves with people who share the same opinion and just echo chamber back and forth

TLJ, at worst, is an uneven and poorly paced movie that is (again, at worst) a mild disappointment.

Trying to act like it's "the worst thing ever" and a "disgrace" is just stupid lol

New archaeoligical discovery shows that TLJ being a shit movie might be the cause in the rise of school shootings!

TLJ toy sales are bad, the movie did not make much money, people rate it as being a terrible film, and there have been zero SW games made to keep SW in peoples minds.

Battlefront 1 and 2 by EA were given low ratings cause they are subpar games.
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the movie did not make much money

It was the highest grossing film since The Force Awakens lmfao
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I'm not exaggerating and I'm not using "hyperbole"

I meant everything I said. I fucking despise this film and everyone who tries to defend the steaming pile of garbage it is.
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De Evolution posted...

I'm not exaggerating and I'm not using "hyperbole"

I meant everything I said. I fucking despise this film and everyone who tries to defend the steaming pile of garbage it is.

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De Evolution posted...

I'm not exaggerating and I'm not using "hyperbole"

I meant everything I said. I fucking despise this film and everyone who tries to defend the steaming pile of garbage it is.

maybe you need to consider your perspective on life if this makes you that upset
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Link HT posted...

Doom_Art posted...

Link HT posted...

getting a new director MID trilogy

I mean

Empire Strikes Back - Directed by Irvin Kershner

touch

the problem with TLJ was that ryan johnson clearly disagreed with every single plot point that TFA set up and spent his entire movie pretty much removing all of them.

You know, if you describe some plot lines in a single breath, you have a point. I never thought of it like that, but...

Finn got beaten up by Kylo. Then he walked around with the IV on and was ok shortly afterwards.
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very much disliked it
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It had some cool things in it and was shot incredibly well but overall I didn't like it because of the story. But really isn't it time to just move on? Why hold this much ire to some movie you didn't like?

While we're at it. I think we can also stop bitching about a movie that came out nearly 20 years ago.

People like TC need to really get a life. It's not good to obsess over a movie. Movie was bad but. lightning doesn't strike twice. After the PT series being shit and the EU being a train wreck I gave up on Star Wars ever being anything more then garbage.