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Samurontai
03/01/18 6:07:28 PM
#101:


HiddenLurker posted...
Samurontai posted...
Why do conservatives care about such insignificant shit all of a sudden? Like ever since Trump was elected, they've all gone full blown SJW

They are not the ones making this mouthful of nonsense of an acronym.


No they're just the ones whining about it even though it has almost zero effect on them at all

Did you intentionally misread my post, or are you just not very good at comprehending certain words...? Legit curious btw
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s0nicfan
03/01/18 6:07:32 PM
#102:


Samurontai posted...
No, I'm asking you to be less triggered by stuff that has zero effect on you. Jfc, way to prove me right with that chapter of a post btw


>chapter of a post
>3 lines of text

That's some low tier trolling, bro. I'll give you credit for getting a response at all, though.
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Kaname_Madoka
03/01/18 6:08:14 PM
#103:


this shit is fucking stupid I'm sorry

just because you like being called daddy during sex, your grandson is gay, you have a trans friend, etc, doesn't make you LGBT, fuck off
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Samurontai
03/01/18 6:08:46 PM
#104:


s0nicfan posted...
Samurontai posted...
No, I'm asking you to be less triggered by stuff that has zero effect on you. Jfc, way to prove me right with that chapter of a post btw


>chapter of a post
>3 lines of text

That's some low tier trolling, bro. I'll give you credit for getting a response at all, though.


That's 8 lines of text though

Also please don't tell me you actually think I put "chapter" in the literal sense
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Zodd3224
03/01/18 6:10:12 PM
#105:


HiddenLurker posted...
Samurontai posted...
Why do conservatives care about such insignificant shit all of a sudden? Like ever since Trump was elected, they've all gone full blown SJW

They are not the ones making this mouthful of nonsense of an acronym.


It will be okay. Its not like they are trying to tear down a confederate statue or anything. Life will go on.
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Capn Circus
03/01/18 6:11:49 PM
#106:


Samurontai posted...
HiddenLurker posted...
Samurontai posted...
Why do conservatives care about such insignificant shit all of a sudden? Like ever since Trump was elected, they've all gone full blown SJW

They are not the ones making this mouthful of nonsense of an acronym.


No they're just the ones whining about it even though it has almost zero effect on them at all

Did you intentionally misread my post, or are you just not very good at comprehending certain words...? Legit curious btw


It's clear most people are laughing, not whining. You're just trying to troll at this point.

Direct your embarrassment of this acronym somewhere else---maybe talk to fellow lefties and tell them it's going too far.
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The Admiral
03/01/18 6:11:54 PM
#107:


What's the actual point to these activists wanting to do this? The LGBT groups originally existed to help ensure fair treatment and equal rights for those gay, lesbian, and trans individuals. People who have "kinks" and such are not being ostracized by society and have no reason to be represented by this organization.

The only reasons I can think of for doing this are either:
1. The entire organization is no longer stricly about equality, but non-traditional sex and sex fetishes
2. This is a gimmick to get more people to donate money

If someone has other reasons, I'm certainly open.
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Samurontai
03/01/18 6:14:24 PM
#108:


Capn Circus posted...
Samurontai posted...
HiddenLurker posted...
Samurontai posted...
Why do conservatives care about such insignificant shit all of a sudden? Like ever since Trump was elected, they've all gone full blown SJW

They are not the ones making this mouthful of nonsense of an acronym.


No they're just the ones whining about it even though it has almost zero effect on them at all

Did you intentionally misread my post, or are you just not very good at comprehending certain words...? Legit curious btw


It's clear most people are laughing, not whining. You're just trying to troll at this point.

Direct your embarrassment of this acronym somewhere else---maybe talk to fellow lefties and tell them it's going too far.


You didnt even know the definition of the word you tried to refute lmao. Ifanyone should be embarrassed, it's you.

Also idgaf about this at all, mostly because I don't have the mentality of a child, but also because I'm not a "lefty". I'm sure there are other reasons as well. I just think it's hilarious seeing conservatives go full blown SJW on certain topics
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Kaname_Madoka
03/01/18 6:17:23 PM
#109:


the reason this pisses me off is the only people that this benefits is right wingers.

It doesn't help actual LGBT people at all, just makes us look like perverts. [Which is a label the right loves to slap on us]

It doesn't help kinksters. They don't need support or legal protection, because that shit legally should only be allowed in private.

It doesn't help allies. What gain do they get? Nothing other than being able to say "hey according to this one random group I'm LGBT now!"

It DOES help rightwingers. It lets them be smug and say shut like "look at how crazy the LGBT/the left is these days!"

Seriously, this crap pisses me off.
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Samurontai
03/01/18 6:19:14 PM
#110:


Kaname_Madoka posted...
the reason this pisses me off is the only people that this benefits is right wingers.

It doesn't help actual LGBT people at all, just makes us look like perverts. [Which is a label the right loves to slap on us]

It doesn't help kinksters. They don't need support or legal protection, because that shit legally should only be allowed in private.

It doesn't help allies. What gain do they get? Nothing other than being able to say "hey according to this one random group I'm LGBT now!"

It DOES help rightwingers. It lets them be smug and say shut like "look at how crazy the LGBT/the left is these days!"

Seriously, this crap pisses me off.


Hey look, an actually decent post. I agree tbh, this is going a bit overboard. If anything they should knock acronyms off and replace them with a +. LGBT+ was perfectly fine
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Sephiroth1288
03/01/18 6:23:20 PM
#111:


"Friends and Family"???
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Capn Circus
03/01/18 6:25:21 PM
#112:


Kaname_Madoka posted...
the reason this pisses me off is the only people that this benefits is right wingers.

It doesn't help actual LGBT people at all, just makes us look like perverts. [Which is a label the right loves to slap on us]

It doesn't help kinksters. They don't need support or legal protection, because that shit legally should only be allowed in private.

It doesn't help allies. What gain do they get? Nothing other than being able to say "hey according to this one random group I'm LGBT now!"

It DOES help rightwingers. It lets them be smug and say shut like "look at how crazy the LGBT/the left is these days!"

Seriously, this crap pisses me off.


Maybe you shouldn't align yourself with the left anymore. It may not be popular to be a gay Trump supporter or a conservative gay person --- but it's the right thing to do.

Just remember you do not have to be a liberal if you're gay. There's plenty of conservatives that will accept you.
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Kaname_Madoka
03/01/18 6:25:25 PM
#113:


Samurontai posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
the reason this pisses me off is the only people that this benefits is right wingers.

It doesn't help actual LGBT people at all, just makes us look like perverts. [Which is a label the right loves to slap on us]

It doesn't help kinksters. They don't need support or legal protection, because that shit legally should only be allowed in private.

It doesn't help allies. What gain do they get? Nothing other than being able to say "hey according to this one random group I'm LGBT now!"

It DOES help rightwingers. It lets them be smug and say shut like "look at how crazy the LGBT/the left is these days!"

Seriously, this crap pisses me off.


Hey look, an actually decent post. I agree tbh, this is going a bit overboard. If anything they should knock acronyms off and replace them with a +. LGBT+ was perfectly fine

Thanks and I agree.
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Samurontai
03/01/18 6:26:22 PM
#114:


Capn Circus posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
the reason this pisses me off is the only people that this benefits is right wingers.

It doesn't help actual LGBT people at all, just makes us look like perverts. [Which is a label the right loves to slap on us]

It doesn't help kinksters. They don't need support or legal protection, because that shit legally should only be allowed in private.

It doesn't help allies. What gain do they get? Nothing other than being able to say "hey according to this one random group I'm LGBT now!"

It DOES help rightwingers. It lets them be smug and say shut like "look at how crazy the LGBT/the left is these days!"

Seriously, this crap pisses me off.


Maybe you shouldn't align yourself with the left anymore. It may not be popular to be a gay Trump supporter or a conservative gay person --- but it's the right thing to do.

Just remember you do not have to be a liberal if you're gay. There's plenty of conservatives that will accept you.


Yes, align yourself with the party that actually hates gay people

That makes sense lmao. Remember when you told me I was trolling? Good times
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mario2000
03/01/18 6:26:35 PM
#115:


Maybe you shouldn't align yourself with the left anymore. It may not be popular to be a gay Trump supporter or a conservative gay person --- but it's the right thing to do.

Just remember you do not have to be a liberal if you're gay. There's plenty of conservatives that will accept you.

just because the house you're living in has started to smell weird doesn't mean you should immediately go live in a rat-infested sewer
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Kaname_Madoka
03/01/18 6:27:43 PM
#116:


Capn Circus posted...
Maybe you shouldn't align yourself with the left anymore. It may not be popular to be a gay Trump supporter or a conservative gay person --- but it's the right thing to do.

Just remember you do not have to be a liberal if you're gay. There's plenty of conservatives that will accept you.

I'm not american for starters

Second of all, when liberals do stupid crap like this, it's just misguided support and caring. When conservatives do stupid crap like fighting against gay marriage or trans rights, that's because they think we're "evil" or "gross" or "sinful".

I'll take friendly stupidity over antagonization any day.
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Zodd3224
03/01/18 6:29:09 PM
#117:


Kaname_Madoka posted...
Capn Circus posted...
Maybe you shouldn't align yourself with the left anymore. It may not be popular to be a gay Trump supporter or a conservative gay person --- but it's the right thing to do.

Just remember you do not have to be a liberal if you're gay. There's plenty of conservatives that will accept you.

I'm not american for starters

Second of all, when liberals do stupid crap like this, it's just misguided support and caring. When conservatives do stupid crap like fighting against gay marriage or trans rights, that's because they think we're "evil" or "gross" or "sinful".

I'll take friendly stupidity over antagonization any day.


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Capn Circus
03/01/18 6:32:35 PM
#118:


Kaname_Madoka posted...
Capn Circus posted...
Maybe you shouldn't align yourself with the left anymore. It may not be popular to be a gay Trump supporter or a conservative gay person --- but it's the right thing to do.

Just remember you do not have to be a liberal if you're gay. There's plenty of conservatives that will accept you.

I'm not american for starters

Second of all, when liberals do stupid crap like this, it's just misguided support and caring. When conservatives do stupid crap like fighting against gay marriage or trans rights, that's because they think we're "evil" or "gross" or "sinful".

I'll take friendly stupidity over antagonization any day.


Conservatism is evolving. Trump supporters in particular. There are gay Trump supporters and people who are OK with you being gay. Trump didn't do anything against gay people
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Vaati_Reborn
03/01/18 6:33:05 PM
#119:


quick lets figure out some reason to put Y in the acronym soup so it can be LGBTQQICAPFY2K+
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Samurontai
03/01/18 6:36:02 PM
#120:


Capn Circus posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
Capn Circus posted...
Maybe you shouldn't align yourself with the left anymore. It may not be popular to be a gay Trump supporter or a conservative gay person --- but it's the right thing to do.

Just remember you do not have to be a liberal if you're gay. There's plenty of conservatives that will accept you.

I'm not american for starters

Second of all, when liberals do stupid crap like this, it's just misguided support and caring. When conservatives do stupid crap like fighting against gay marriage or trans rights, that's because they think we're "evil" or "gross" or "sinful".

I'll take friendly stupidity over antagonization any day.


Conservatism is evolving. Trump supporters in particular. There are gay Trump supporters and people who are OK with you being gay. Trump didn't do anything against gay people


The Vice President supports gay conversion therapy LOL
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Capn Circus
03/01/18 6:36:53 PM
#121:


Samurontai posted...
Capn Circus posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
Capn Circus posted...
Maybe you shouldn't align yourself with the left anymore. It may not be popular to be a gay Trump supporter or a conservative gay person --- but it's the right thing to do.

Just remember you do not have to be a liberal if you're gay. There's plenty of conservatives that will accept you.

I'm not american for starters

Second of all, when liberals do stupid crap like this, it's just misguided support and caring. When conservatives do stupid crap like fighting against gay marriage or trans rights, that's because they think we're "evil" or "gross" or "sinful".

I'll take friendly stupidity over antagonization any day.


Conservatism is evolving. Trump supporters in particular. There are gay Trump supporters and people who are OK with you being gay. Trump didn't do anything against gay people


The Vice President supports gay conversion therapy LOL


He supports the right of people who want to try it. And I agree.
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Samurontai
03/01/18 6:37:39 PM
#122:


Capn Circus posted...
Samurontai posted...
Capn Circus posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
Capn Circus posted...
Maybe you shouldn't align yourself with the left anymore. It may not be popular to be a gay Trump supporter or a conservative gay person --- but it's the right thing to do.

Just remember you do not have to be a liberal if you're gay. There's plenty of conservatives that will accept you.

I'm not american for starters

Second of all, when liberals do stupid crap like this, it's just misguided support and caring. When conservatives do stupid crap like fighting against gay marriage or trans rights, that's because they think we're "evil" or "gross" or "sinful".

I'll take friendly stupidity over antagonization any day.


Conservatism is evolving. Trump supporters in particular. There are gay Trump supporters and people who are OK with you being gay. Trump didn't do anything against gay people


The Vice President supports gay conversion therapy LOL


He supports the right of people who want to try it. And I agree.


You support people harming themselves while trying to do something that's been proven to not work?

Are you anti vax, by chance?
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Samurontai
03/01/18 6:38:30 PM
#123:


Regardless, shit like that shouldn't be endorsed by the Vice President of the United States, while the administration is claiming to be pro LGBT lmao
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LinksLiege
03/01/18 6:39:03 PM
#124:


I've never liked the initialism as it is. Even LGBT is awkward.

One proposed alternative that I like is GSD: Gender and Sexual Diversity. It covers everything - literally EVERYTHING - and doesn't need modification ever.
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Kaname_Madoka
03/01/18 6:39:13 PM
#125:


Vice President Pikachu
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Funbazooka
03/01/18 6:42:39 PM
#127:


mario2000 posted...
Capn Circus posted...
Samurontai posted...
Capn Circus posted...
Samurontai posted...
Why do conservatives care about such insignificant shit all of a sudden? Like ever since Trump was elected, they've all gone full blown SJW


I don't think "conservatives" particularly "care"---people are just pointing out and laughing at how idiotic it all is.

I think pointing out the absurdity of this acronym is far from SJW... like the acronym itself is.


If you didn't care you wouldn't pay any attention to it at all though. You cared enough to make a topic about it lmao.

Also I'm not just talking about this in particular, I mean over all. It's like conservatives are trying to be an exact match for SJWs on how offended they can get over extremely menial topics


Care generally means one assigns importance to something. "I care about my dog". "I care about the environment".

If making a topic laughing at an absurdity is "caring" to you, then so be it. But this doesn't really fit the definition.

you care enough to laugh at it

And... ?
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Capn Circus
03/01/18 6:42:56 PM
#128:


Samurontai posted...
Regardless, shit like that shouldn't be endorsed by the Vice President of the United States, while the administration is claiming to be pro LGBT lmao


Wasn't the statement like 18 years ago anyway? Not really something to go "Aha! They're anti gay" about.
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Samurontai
03/01/18 6:46:40 PM
#129:


Capn Circus posted...
Samurontai posted...
Regardless, shit like that shouldn't be endorsed by the Vice President of the United States, while the administration is claiming to be pro LGBT lmao


Wasn't the statement like 18 years ago anyway? Not really something to go "Aha! They're anti gay" about.


Do you live under a rock?
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ToiletDuck64
03/01/18 6:51:53 PM
#130:


This, by and large, is why I usually stop after the first four letters when discussing the whole GLBT thing.
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dave_is_slick
03/01/18 6:54:21 PM
#131:


The Admiral posted...
Just scrap the acronym already and call it the Rainbow Umbrella.

That is actually a great idea.
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IloveslimesOMG
03/01/18 6:54:42 PM
#132:


Kaname_Madoka posted...
I do not like how straight cis people that happen to enjoy being called daddy or wearing leather during sex are being considered LGBT now.

WTF kaname?
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Sephiroth1288
03/01/18 6:54:44 PM
#133:


Guys

Sephiroth1288 posted...
"Friends and Family"???

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Jagr_68
03/01/18 6:57:27 PM
#134:


Romulox28 posted...
My gender identity is NBA2K


LGBTQNBAWWENHLMLB2K
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Kaname_Madoka
03/01/18 6:57:40 PM
#135:


IloveslimesOMG posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
I do not like how straight cis people that happen to enjoy being called daddy or wearing leather during sex are being considered LGBT now.

WTF kaname?

what happened
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HiddenLurker
03/01/18 7:00:33 PM
#136:


Zodd3224 posted...
HiddenLurker posted...
Samurontai posted...
Why do conservatives care about such insignificant shit all of a sudden? Like ever since Trump was elected, they've all gone full blown SJW

They are not the ones making this mouthful of nonsense of an acronym.


It will be okay. Its not like they are trying to tear down a confederate statue or anything. Life will go on.

Honestly I think the whole thing is silly. But you gotta admit that is one ridiculously long acronym and the people who created it obviously put in alot of care and attention to try to be "inclusive" of everything they think people "identify" as. Which is my point that seems to have flown so far over Sam's head it hit Pluto.
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IloveslimesOMG
03/01/18 7:02:20 PM
#137:


Kaname_Madoka posted...
IloveslimesOMG posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
I do not like how straight cis people that happen to enjoy being called daddy or wearing leather during sex are being considered LGBT now.

WTF kaname?

what happened

I didnt know you were in current events
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Kaname_Madoka
03/01/18 7:05:09 PM
#138:


IloveslimesOMG posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
IloveslimesOMG posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
I do not like how straight cis people that happen to enjoy being called daddy or wearing leather during sex are being considered LGBT now.

WTF kaname?

what happened

I didnt know you were in current events

o

What's up
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Samurontai
03/01/18 7:08:34 PM
#139:


@HiddenLurker posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
HiddenLurker posted...
Samurontai posted...
Why do conservatives care about such insignificant shit all of a sudden? Like ever since Trump was elected, they've all gone full blown SJW

They are not the ones making this mouthful of nonsense of an acronym.


It will be okay. Its not like they are trying to tear down a confederate statue or anything. Life will go on.

Honestly I think the whole thing is silly. But you gotta admit that is one ridiculously long acronym and the people who created it obviously put in alot of care and attention to try to be "inclusive" of everything they think people "identify" as. Which is my point that seems to have flown so far over Sam's head it hit Pluto.


Yes I had no idea what you were talking about, proven by the fact that I literally agreed with the point I somehow didn't even understand, a few posts prior to this very post, which is making said claim?

Because that totally makes sense

Seriously, do any conservatives on this board understand the concept of "critical thinking" or do you just make up random shit, post it, and then just hope that it somehow sticks?

Post for reference

Samurontai posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
the reason this pisses me off is the only people that this benefits is right wingers.

It doesn't help actual LGBT people at all, just makes us look like perverts. [Which is a label the right loves to slap on us]

It doesn't help kinksters. They don't need support or legal protection, because that shit legally should only be allowed in private.

It doesn't help allies. What gain do they get? Nothing other than being able to say "hey according to this one random group I'm LGBT now!"

It DOES help rightwingers. It lets them be smug and say shut like "look at how crazy the LGBT/the left is these days!"

Seriously, this crap pisses me off.


Hey look, an actually decent post. I agree tbh, this is going a bit overboard. If anything they should knock acronyms off and replace them with a +. LGBT+ was perfectly fine

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TheCurseX2
03/01/18 7:10:16 PM
#140:


What is this, a fucking MMORPG character creation screen?
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Zodd3224
03/01/18 7:16:06 PM
#142:


HiddenLurker posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
HiddenLurker posted...
Samurontai posted...
Why do conservatives care about such insignificant shit all of a sudden? Like ever since Trump was elected, they've all gone full blown SJW

They are not the ones making this mouthful of nonsense of an acronym.


It will be okay. Its not like they are trying to tear down a confederate statue or anything. Life will go on.

Honestly I think the whole thing is silly. But you gotta admit that is one ridiculously long acronym and the people who created it obviously put in alot of care and attention to try to be "inclusive" of everything they think people "identify" as. Which is my point that seems to have flown so far over Sam's head it hit Pluto.


It is dumb for sure. But I find it amusing how conservatives get triggered by this stuff like SJWs.
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Funbazooka
03/01/18 7:16:51 PM
#144:


ToiletDuck64 posted...
This, by and large, is why I usually stop after the first four letters when discussing the whole GLBT thing.

I like BLTGs

Bacon lettuce tomato guacomole sandwiches
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Kaname_Madoka
03/01/18 7:17:06 PM
#145:


Zurkon posted...

I think their heart was in the right place and it's good to include these people because they shouldn't be excluded (not counting kink) but yeah, using an acronym as the format just makes people look at it as a joke.

why should my homophobic and transphobic grandma be considered LGBT by blood
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Kaname_Madoka
03/01/18 7:23:52 PM
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Zurkon posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
Zurkon posted...

I think their heart was in the right place and it's good to include these people because they shouldn't be excluded (not counting kink) but yeah, using an acronym as the format just makes people look at it as a joke.

why should my homophobic and transphobic grandma be considered LGBT by blood

What? I was talking about including things like pansexual or questioning or any non cis/straight that don't fall under L, G, B or T. My main complaint is that the acronym is just going to keep growing and it's not even something you can say irl.

FF stands for friends and family
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Kaname_Madoka
03/01/18 7:28:42 PM
#149:


Zurkon posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
Zurkon posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
Zurkon posted...

I think their heart was in the right place and it's good to include these people because they shouldn't be excluded (not counting kink) but yeah, using an acronym as the format just makes people look at it as a joke.

why should my homophobic and transphobic grandma be considered LGBT by blood

What? I was talking about including things like pansexual or questioning or any non cis/straight that don't fall under L, G, B or T. My main complaint is that the acronym is just going to keep growing and it's not even something you can say irl.

FF stands for friends and family

I know but that wasn't what I was referring to.

nvm I misread your posts

sorry
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Skye Reynolds
03/01/18 7:44:36 PM
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Capn Circus posted...
The official acronym is now LGBTQQICAPF2K+ according to the magazine The Gay UK. That stands for Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Queer, Questioning, Intersex, Curious, Asexual, Agender, Ally, Pansexual, Polysexual, Friends and family, Two-spirit and Kink."


I identify as Kink.

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