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3deep5u
02/23/18 5:51:07 PM
#102:


GregShmedley posted...
You can't claim this with 100% certainty.

There's basically nothing you can claim with 100% certainty outside of simple statements like "This is a true statement" so your point is pretty irrelevant.

I'm just telling you what research has shown since apparently you didn't even read the links you posted.
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Kazi1212
02/23/18 5:53:28 PM
#103:


Is it really totally unreasonable that watching and engaging with violent media might produce more aggressive tendencies? Really?
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3deep5u
02/23/18 5:54:37 PM
#104:


Kazi1212 posted...
Is it really totally unreasonable that watching and engaging with violent media might produce more aggressive tendencies? Really?

Is it unreasonable to read the research that's been done and done and overdone for yourself instead of going on gut instinct and "common sense"?
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EscapeFromHell
02/23/18 5:54:50 PM
#105:


Cool. Now let's see what everyone's favorite reality TV character can actually do about it...

Nothing
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Kazi1212
02/23/18 5:55:54 PM
#106:


3deep5u posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
Is it really totally unreasonable that watching and engaging with violent media might produce more aggressive tendencies? Really?

Is it unreasonable to read the research that's been done and done and overdone for yourself instead of going on gut instinct and "common sense"?


What research has conclusively proven that theres zero correlation between digesting violent media and aggressive tendencies?
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ImTheMacheteGuy
02/23/18 5:58:14 PM
#107:


Kazi1212 posted...
3deep5u posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
Is it really totally unreasonable that watching and engaging with violent media might produce more aggressive tendencies? Really?

Is it unreasonable to read the research that's been done and done and overdone for yourself instead of going on gut instinct and "common sense"?


What research has conclusively proven that there?s zero correlation between digesting violent media and aggressive tendencies?


Literally all research
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chill02
02/23/18 6:00:42 PM
#108:


People, the problem aren't the bears. It's illegal immigrants.
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Kazi1212
02/23/18 6:00:55 PM
#109:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
3deep5u posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
Is it really totally unreasonable that watching and engaging with violent media might produce more aggressive tendencies? Really?

Is it unreasonable to read the research that's been done and done and overdone for yourself instead of going on gut instinct and "common sense"?


What research has conclusively proven that there?s zero correlation between digesting violent media and aggressive tendencies?


Literally all research


I believe you with your reliable sources and all

Also, literally just pulled this up:

http://www.center4research.org/violent-video-games-can-increase-aggression/

Your claim is demonstrably false
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EscapeFromHell
02/23/18 6:03:40 PM
#110:


chill02 posted...
People, the problem aren't the bears. It's illegal immigrants.

"Immigrants, I knew it was them. Even when it was the bears I knew it was them!"
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3deep5u
02/23/18 6:03:50 PM
#111:


Kazi1212 posted...
What research has conclusively proven that theres zero correlation between digesting violent media and aggressive tendencies?

This has already been talked about in this thread.
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Kazi1212
02/23/18 6:14:00 PM
#112:


3deep5u posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
What research has conclusively proven that theres zero correlation between digesting violent media and aggressive tendencies?

This has already been talked about in this thread.


Do you think that research which shows there is infact a correlation between the two to be inconclusive?
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PtlessAgmnts
02/23/18 6:16:03 PM
#113:


3deep5u posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
What research has conclusively proven that theres zero correlation between digesting violent media and aggressive tendencies?

This has already been talked about in this thread.

And he's right. Most research says that there are indeed correlation between violent media and aggressive tendencies in real life. The correlation might be small and there are other factors like it being short-term, but research has said there's a correlation, which are even bigger in children.
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legendarylemur
02/23/18 6:24:49 PM
#115:


To me this is a sort of a no shit thing. Yeah... violence media makes for people who are capable of violent thoughts. But it's not like easing people into violence is better either, and it's next to impossible to prevent kids from seeing violent stuff. It's gonna happen eventually and nothing good ever came from censoring the companies themselves. So for me, this is just one of those aspects of life that needs to be accepted quietly
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Howl
02/23/18 6:39:58 PM
#116:


GregShmedley posted...
He isn't really wrong.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-baby-scientist/201801/violent-media-and-aggressive-behavior-in-children

http://www.apa.org/pi/prevent-violence/resources/tv-violence.aspx

http://www.apa.org/action/resources/research-in-action/protect.aspx

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2352250X17300660


The methodology in studies like this proves nothing whatsoever. The reason children played with that gun was becasue they thought it wasnt a real gun. There is no reason to supoose that they are actually more violent.
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P4wn4g3
02/23/18 7:20:06 PM
#117:


COVxy posted...
Anteaterking posted...
Just curious, are these studies general claims about catharsis or just in its relationship with anger?


I don't know if anyone has ever studied it in terms of anything other than anger and aggression.

The original point of this particular talking point is that it would provide an outlet for deviant obsessive behavior, not anger. Don't act obtuse about these things.

Anyway yeah obviously video games breed mass shooters because Japan, North Korea, and China have leading numbers of those, followed by America, Australia, Brazil, Germany, Russia, the UK, etc. At least the ratio of gamers to mass shooters is consistent so that we know this isn't a political strawman to try to get gullible politicians, social scientists, and media to focus on it instead of real solutions to real problems. Any real problems, you know.
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COVxy
02/23/18 7:26:42 PM
#118:


P4wn4g3 posted...
The original point of this particular talking point is that it would provide an outlet for deviant obsessive behavior, not anger. Don't act obtuse about these things.


May want to re-read.
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P4wn4g3
02/23/18 7:34:40 PM
#119:


COVxy posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
The original point of this particular talking point is that it would provide an outlet for deviant obsessive behavior, not anger. Don't act obtuse about these things.


May want to re-read.

I'm not talking about the semantics that some Internet forum user decided to throw out there in his free time. It's silly to get anal about that, and it isn't like people here will seriously be looking into using video games or other media as anger therapy.
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Deadpool_18
02/23/18 7:41:20 PM
#121:


More stupid bullshit from our president.

Tonight at 11.
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P4wn4g3
02/23/18 7:44:41 PM
#122:


UnhndredDescole posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
COVxy posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
The original point of this particular talking point is that it would provide an outlet for deviant obsessive behavior, not anger. Don't act obtuse about these things.


May want to re-read.

I'm not talking about the semantics that some Internet forum user decided to throw out there in his free time. It's silly to get anal about that, and it isn't like people here will seriously be looking into using video games or other media as anger therapy.

COVxy is a neurologist who is a step away from getting his Ph.D. Meanwhile, you're a CEman who's so ignorant he believes police will arrest someone for having sex with someone that's legal in their state.

Albert Einstein was an accountant. Jesus was a hobo. Your point?
Oh nevermind, you're that guy who is still salty about being modded after coming out as a pedophile.
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Axiom
02/23/18 7:45:57 PM
#123:


Going back to the days of blaming video games and movies huh. This administration sure loves regression. Everything it does is a step backwards
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charey
02/23/18 7:58:28 PM
#124:


If there is a problem with violent media its not any one type or particular piece, its the combined amount of violent media and the glorification of violence in American culture as a whole.

America was founded by bloody revolution and that is echoed by how we as a culture treat violence in art and media as no big deal compared to the much harsher ratings other countries will give media for the same level of gore.
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GoIdSocksForWok
02/23/18 8:04:08 PM
#126:


Trumps liberal views are surfacing, ugh
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P4wn4g3
02/23/18 8:04:45 PM
#127:


UnhndredDescole posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...

lol no, that wasn't me and I have zero moderations on my account. It's just funny to me how someone who makes the some of the most idiotic, consistently wrong, and brain-dead posts that you do thinks he can be condescending towards one of the most educated posters on this board.

Yeah sure, not you.
"And I'm pretty sure at one point you said something about sucking your own dick."" Naw dawg that ain't me"
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P4wn4g3
02/23/18 8:08:03 PM
#129:


UnhndredDescole posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
UnhndredDescole posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...

lol no, that wasn't me and I have zero moderations on my account. It's just funny to me how someone who makes the some of the most idiotic, consistently wrong, and brain-dead posts that you do thinks he can be condescending towards one of the most educated posters on this board.

Yeah sure, not you.
"And I'm pretty sure at one point you said something about sucking your own dick."" Naw dawg that ain't me"

Are you off your meds again?

Keep melting down, I enjoy a free show.
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dave_is_slick
02/23/18 8:24:21 PM
#132:


Spooking posted...
Some people even think Wanaka is real (lmao).

No they don't you fucking troll.
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P4wn4g3
02/23/18 8:24:57 PM
#133:


Now hopping onto alts... all this for little old me.
Seriously dude you need to get the fuck over your moderation on a video game site that has to be months ago by now. Or get yourself warned again, that's funny to watch. Either way.
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P4wn4g3
02/23/18 8:30:38 PM
#135:


UnhndredDescole posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
UnhndredDescole posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
UnhndredDescole posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...

lol no, that wasn't me and I have zero moderations on my account. It's just funny to me how someone who makes the some of the most idiotic, consistently wrong, and brain-dead posts that you do thinks he can be condescending towards one of the most educated posters on this board.

Yeah sure, not you.
"And I'm pretty sure at one point you said something about sucking your own dick."" Naw dawg that ain't me"

Are you off your meds again?

Keep melting down, I enjoy a free show.

Your posts are literally just incoherent rambling.

Sorry I was using words you couldn't understand. Let me make it simple for you: get a life.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
02/23/18 8:31:41 PM
#136:


Kazi1212 posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
3deep5u posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
Is it really totally unreasonable that watching and engaging with violent media might produce more aggressive tendencies? Really?

Is it unreasonable to read the research that's been done and done and overdone for yourself instead of going on gut instinct and "common sense"?


What research has conclusively proven that there?s zero correlation between digesting violent media and aggressive tendencies?


Literally all research


I believe you with your reliable sources and all

Also, literally just pulled this up:

http://www.center4research.org/violent-video-games-can-increase-aggression/

Your claim is demonstrably false


As if a source that uses the number 4 instead of the word "for" has any credibility... my guess is fake news.
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Kazi1212
02/23/18 8:39:17 PM
#138:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
3deep5u posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
Is it really totally unreasonable that watching and engaging with violent media might produce more aggressive tendencies? Really?

Is it unreasonable to read the research that's been done and done and overdone for yourself instead of going on gut instinct and "common sense"?


What research has conclusively proven that there?s zero correlation between digesting violent media and aggressive tendencies?


Literally all research


I believe you with your reliable sources and all

Also, literally just pulled this up:

http://www.center4research.org/violent-video-games-can-increase-aggression/

Your claim is demonstrably false


As if a source that uses the number 4 instead of the word "for" has any credibility... my guess is fake news.


Fair, how about this:
http://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/2015/08/violent-video-games.aspx

Is the APA credible enough in your eyes?
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P4wn4g3
02/23/18 8:48:09 PM
#140:


UnhndredDescole posted...
I just checked "that" site and the chainedredone topic was only february 9 (not months ago like you claim) so if I got warned it would still be here.

Thanks for confirming for everyone that you really are stuck on a moderation from a while back because you sucked at trolling properly and have absolutely no life.

UnhndredDescole posted...
I guarantee you're going to get yourself modded in this topic for offensive lies

Wanna make a bet over this? Eh nevermind I don't actually care. Same as your prior desparate attempts for attention for me, I'm going back to my life now and you can wallow here knowing you just keep sticking your foot in your mouth every time you do this. Feel free to continue talking to yourself and hopping onto alts though, I'm sure you've got people watching to see you get warned again.
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P4wn4g3
02/23/18 8:50:02 PM
#141:


Ah I should probably mention, if you keep this shit up I'll just start marking you for harassment and move on. I literally give no fucks about you.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
02/23/18 8:52:20 PM
#142:


Kazi1212 posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
3deep5u posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
Is it really totally unreasonable that watching and engaging with violent media might produce more aggressive tendencies? Really?

Is it unreasonable to read the research that's been done and done and overdone for yourself instead of going on gut instinct and "common sense"?


What research has conclusively proven that there?s zero correlation between digesting violent media and aggressive tendencies?


Literally all research


I believe you with your reliable sources and all

Also, literally just pulled this up:

http://www.center4research.org/violent-video-games-can-increase-aggression/

Your claim is demonstrably false


As if a source that uses the number 4 instead of the word "for" has any credibility... my guess is fake news.


Fair, how about this:
http://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/2015/08/violent-video-games.aspx

Is the APA credible enough in your eyes?


Nope. 2015. Too old.
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kingdrake2
02/23/18 9:15:42 PM
#144:


P4wn4g3 posted...
Now hopping onto alts... all this for little old me.
Seriously dude you need to get the fuck over your moderation on a video game site that has to be months ago by now. Or get yourself warned again, that's funny to watch. Either way.


i'm kinda wanting to see him get warned. everyone will have a good laugh about it in the morning.
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FratMilkyHolme
02/26/18 1:44:41 AM
#146:


Anteaterking posted...
What about anime?

Mainstream anime has wholesome violence
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3deep5u
02/26/18 4:59:58 PM
#147:


Kazi1212 posted...
3deep5u posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
Is it really totally unreasonable that watching and engaging with violent media might produce more aggressive tendencies? Really?

Is it unreasonable to read the research that's been done and done and overdone for yourself instead of going on gut instinct and "common sense"?


What research has conclusively proven that theres zero correlation between digesting violent media and aggressive tendencies?

If you read the whole thread, which you didn't, and I don't blame you, then you'd see that I already talked about the existing, undeniable correlation. The problem with your position is that it's a very weak correlation that is non-existent in the long-term.
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Giblet_Enjoyer
02/28/18 5:53:49 AM
#149:


COVxy posted...
creativerealms posted...
Videogames are a way to get out violent impulses without harming anyone and that is a good thing.


Catharsis isn't a real thing.

Well, taking out anger on something/someone does satisfy a need (in the short term) but then again, just learning to calm yourself does as well

I mean if I'm pissed, throwing shit around kind of does make it go away
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P4wn4g3
02/28/18 8:53:16 AM
#150:


Generally taking out anger unnecessarily just makes you an asshole. Doesn't really do much for anger unless you're somehow dealing with a source of your anger.
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FratMilkyHolme
03/02/18 2:20:15 AM
#151:


Now trump is talking to game industries lol
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