Current Events > I think I have found out my main issue with Dragon Ball Super... *spoilers*

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Jeff AKA Snoopy
02/20/18 2:46:35 PM
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Goku used to be this figure of light, so to speak. His character in Dragon Ball was this immovable character of good, or if not "good", at least innocence. Thus the payoff of seeing this ultimate figure of innocence and light being able to destroy ultimate evil is such an amazing payoff.

In Dragon Ball Super, he just comes across like this idiot stick moron who loves to fight. He's turned into this goon who puts everything and everyone at risk because "Durrr, I LIEK TO FIGHT!"

None of that innocence and light comes through anymore. Instead he is annoying and lame.
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Gohan_Blanco
02/20/18 2:47:28 PM
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Super Goku is the worst Goku
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DarkChozoGhost
02/20/18 2:52:25 PM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
In Dragon Ball Super, he just comes across like this idiot stick moron who loves to fight. He's turned into this goon who puts everything and everyone at risk because "Durrr, I LIEK TO FIGHT!"

Toriyama has always mostly seen him this way
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Blue_Inigo
02/20/18 2:53:22 PM
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DarkChozoGhost posted...
Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
In Dragon Ball Super, he just comes across like this idiot stick moron who loves to fight. He's turned into this goon who puts everything and everyone at risk because "Durrr, I LIEK TO FIGHT!"

Toriyama has always mostly seen him this way

Yeah, thats his true character.
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MrK3V
02/20/18 2:53:31 PM
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hes always been like that

goku has always just been an asshole. you might have watched the dubbed version as a child making him "nice"
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Kaname_Madoka
02/20/18 2:54:09 PM
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MrK3V posted...
hes always been like that

goku has always just been an asshole. you might have watched the dubbed version as a child making him "nice"

no, he's a nice person in the sub. Just a nice dumbass.

Super just makes him a prick.
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A_Good_Boy
02/20/18 2:54:24 PM
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The dub made him seem like that. He's always been an idiot manchild.
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MrK3V
02/20/18 2:54:37 PM
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Kaname_Madoka posted...
MrK3V posted...
hes always been like that

goku has always just been an asshole. you might have watched the dubbed version as a child making him "nice"

no, he's a nice person in the sub. Just a nice dumbass.

Super just makes him a prick.


nah hes always been selfish
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metralo
02/20/18 2:54:49 PM
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you watched the dub version where they recreated him to act like super man
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BlueBoy675
02/20/18 2:55:19 PM
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Even in the dub he was still kind of an asshole. Never forget he gave Cell a senzu bean so that Gohan would have to fight him fair
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yusiko
02/20/18 2:55:24 PM
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goku is always a nice person who was always an immature idiot who puts the fun of fights above all else.
you probably didnt notice back as a kid because his voice actor in the DBZ dub makes him sound mature
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Funkydog
02/20/18 2:55:32 PM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
His character in Dragon Ball was this immovable character of good

I mean, didn't he murder an entire army of people in dragonball in a blind rage?
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Darkrobotisback
02/20/18 2:55:36 PM
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People still watch dragon ball???
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King Rial
02/20/18 2:55:43 PM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
He's turned into this goon who puts everything and everyone at risk because "Durrr, I LIEK TO FIGHT!"

Didn't he do that more than once in DBZ?
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Samurontai
02/20/18 2:55:46 PM
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Blue_Inigo
02/20/18 2:56:07 PM
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Goku literally let Vegeta live just so he could fight him again when the dude killed most of his friends and almost killed his son
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MrK3V
02/20/18 2:59:04 PM
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A_Good_Boy
02/20/18 3:01:50 PM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
Goku literally let Vegeta live just so he could fight him again when the dude killed most of his friends and almost killed his son

The dude literally vetoed an intelligent and timely solution to the android threat cause fighting them would be more fun. The dude literally let Frieza show up and endanger the planet cause some stronger stranger of unknown allegiance was there. The dude literally gave Cell a senzu bean so he could present an even greater risk to his son. The dude literally did absolutely everything Babidi wanted him to do cause fighting Vegeta would have been awesome. The dude literally didn't kill Buu cause he didn't feel like it (he was probably lying about his capability to do so though).
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MrK3V
02/20/18 3:02:50 PM
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Pepys Monster
02/20/18 3:04:05 PM
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I agree, TC. I miss when Goku was more serious and heroic instead of a completely childish character.
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A_Good_Boy
02/20/18 3:06:57 PM
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Pepys Monster posted...
I agree, TC. I miss when Goku was more serious and heroic instead of a completely childish character.

Wait for the dub?
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Gunpo
02/20/18 3:07:27 PM
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Also when he was about to blast supreme kai so he would get out of the way so he could fight Majin vegeta
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Blue_Inigo
02/20/18 3:08:07 PM
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MrK3V posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aDcWucKFjA

Piccolo went fucking in on Goku
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BlueBoy675
02/20/18 3:08:34 PM
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Gunpo posted...
Also when he was about to blast supreme kai so he would get out of the way so he could fight Majin vegeta

At least the dub spun that as him wanting to fight Vegeta because he was worried about the bystanders and wanted to knock him out. Idk how the original Japanese presented that scene
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Pepys Monster
02/20/18 3:09:09 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
Pepys Monster posted...
I agree, TC. I miss when Goku was more serious and heroic instead of a completely childish character.

Wait for the dub?

It is dubbed. The only time Goku seemed even remotely serious was during his fight with Hit.
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MrK3V
02/20/18 3:09:34 PM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
MrK3V posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aDcWucKFjA

Piccolo went fucking in on Goku


piccolo is the man
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Banjo2553
02/20/18 3:10:26 PM
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MrK3V posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aDcWucKFjA

That look when Goku realizes he fucked up.
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Veggeta_MAX
02/20/18 3:24:01 PM
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Are you sure it isn't because of plot armor or because of asspulls?
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LightHawKnight
02/20/18 3:29:00 PM
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He was always an idiot that made the world worse. Keeps letting his villains live so he could fight them again later. Causing danger to have a more challenging fight. Not as bad as Vegeta, but still pretty bad.
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MrK3V
02/20/18 3:29:39 PM
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Dustin1280
02/20/18 3:30:06 PM
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Has Goku beat jiren yet with ultra instinc super saiyan god super saiyan yet?
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metralo
02/20/18 3:30:13 PM
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Veggeta_MAX posted...
Are you sure it isn't because of plot armor or because of asspulls?


if you can get past the asspulls/plot armor in DB/DBZ, you can get past them in Super
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MrK3V
02/20/18 3:31:04 PM
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Dustin1280 posted...
Has Goku beat jiren yet with ultra instinc super saiyan god super saiyan?


its just ultra instinct. But you wouldn't know I see.
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Veggeta_MAX
02/20/18 3:39:53 PM
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metralo posted...
Veggeta_MAX posted...
Are you sure it isn't because of plot armor or because of asspulls?


if you can get past the asspulls/plot armor in DB/DBZ, you can get past them in Super

No you cannot. Can't tolerate it. I made a topic about it already.
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Dustin1280
02/20/18 3:43:02 PM
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MrK3V posted...
Dustin1280 posted...
Has Goku beat jiren yet with ultra instinc super saiyan god super saiyan?


its just ultra instinct. But you wouldn't know I see.

Yeah but ultra instinct won't be enough, I bet he will go ultra instinct super saiyan blue to finally beat jiren.
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MrK3V
02/20/18 3:44:28 PM
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Dustin1280 posted...
MrK3V posted...
Dustin1280 posted...
Has Goku beat jiren yet with ultra instinc super saiyan god super saiyan?


its just ultra instinct. But you wouldn't know I see.

Yeah but ultra instinct won't be enough, I bet he will go ultra instinct super saiyan blue to finally beat jiren.


Well he's about to

attain perfect UI

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Dustin1280
02/20/18 3:45:32 PM
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ahh gotcha, that might be enough to do it.
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MrK3V
02/20/18 3:46:20 PM
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Dustin1280 posted...
ahh gotcha, that might be enough to do it.


I'm just assuming since theres like 3 eps left lol
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Kaiganeer
02/20/18 3:47:40 PM
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who blanco here
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gamer167
02/20/18 3:51:10 PM
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Goku has always had a goofy side but I feel like they flandarized that trait in Super.

Well actually maybe its less to do with Goku. Super as a whole feels way less gritty than DBZ did. Feels like they definitely made Super to get the attention of a new generation as opposed for the fans from the 90s/00s.
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_MorningStar
02/20/18 4:00:32 PM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
MrK3V posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aDcWucKFjA

Piccolo went fucking in on Goku

God DAMN. Pic went in fucking hard. Choked me up a bit.
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BlueBoy675
02/20/18 4:02:07 PM
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gamer167 posted...
Goku has always had a goofy side but I feel like they flandarized that trait in Super.

Well actually maybe its less to do with Goku. Super as a whole feels way less gritty than DBZ did. Feels like they definitely made Super to get the attention of a new generation as opposed for the fans from the 90s/00s.

I feel like it's trying to find a mix between the silliness of original DB and the gritty fights of Z. Whether or not it succeeds at that is something else entirely
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MrK3V
02/20/18 6:30:31 PM
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BlueBoy675 posted...
gamer167 posted...
Goku has always had a goofy side but I feel like they flandarized that trait in Super.

Well actually maybe its less to do with Goku. Super as a whole feels way less gritty than DBZ did. Feels like they definitely made Super to get the attention of a new generation as opposed for the fans from the 90s/00s.

I feel like it's trying to find a mix between the silliness of original DB and the gritty fights of Z. Whether or not it succeeds at that is something else entirely


That's a great way to put it actually. He has characteristics of both
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