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bloodydeath0 02/20/18 1:49:20 PM #1:	It's funny how during the election cycle, Hillary was a sure thing because the republican party was so weak. Then word got out about how corrupt the left was and then they went even more extremist, and lost the election, and now they're basically dead in the water. And the left has been so unbearable lately, more people have been moving farther right to separate themselves from their hate-filled violent propaganda (antifa, BLM, etc). The Republicans are slated to win again in 2020 if there isn't a serious overhaul on the left. --- http://i.imgur.com/xHbbYI6.gif http://cdn1.sbnation.com/assets/3386905/G2-Ortiz-Slam.gif Anything too hard in life is not worth doing. -John McGuirk <cite>bloodydeath0 posted [p:896439420] in Has the le... [t:76339469]...</cite> <quote>It's funny how during the election cycle, Hillary was a sure thing because the republican party was so weak. Then word got out about how corrupt the left was and then they went even more extremist, and lost the election, and now they're basically dead in the water. And the left has been so unbearable lately, more people have been moving farther right to separate themselves from their hate-filled violent propaganda (antifa, BLM, etc). The Republicans are slated to win again in 2020 if there isn't a serious overhaul on the left.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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r4X0r 02/20/18 1:51:03 PM #3:	The Republicans are slated to win in 2018 if there isn't a serious overhaul on the left. They have no viable platforms to run on. --- I faced it all and I stood tall- And did it my way. <cite>r4X0r posted [p:896439532] in Has the le... [t:76339469]...</cite> <quote>The Republicans are slated to win in 2018 if there isn't a serious overhaul on the left. They have no viable platforms to run on.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 02/20/18 1:53:03 PM #4:	The republicans are slated to lose badly in 2018 if there isn't a serious overhaul on the left. They need no viable platform to run on. --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:896439658] in Has the le... [t:76339469]...</cite> <quote>The republicans are slated to lose badly in 2018 if there isn't a serious overhaul on the left. They need no viable platform to run on.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EndOfDiscOne 02/20/18 1:53:54 PM #5:	Implode both parties IMO --- I am the Cheese! I am the best character on the show! I am better than both the salami and the bologna *COMBINED!* <cite>EndOfDiscOne posted [p:896439704] in Has the le... [t:76339469]...</cite> <quote>Implode both parties IMO</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Turbam 02/20/18 1:56:46 PM #8:	Libs in big trouble @Kaname_Madoka @byron --- ~snip (V)_(;,;)_(V) snip~ I'm just one man! Whoa! Well, I'm a one man band! http://i.imgur.com/p9Xvjvs.gif <cite>Turbam posted [p:896439868] in Has the le... [t:76339469]...</cite> <quote>Libs in big trouble @Kaname_Madoka @byron</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StucklnMyPants 02/20/18 1:57:27 PM #9:	Darkman124 posted... The republicans are slated to lose badly in 2018 if there isn't a serious overhaul on the left. They need no viable platform to run on. I mean, he has a point. Democrats at this point are still basically saying, "We're not Donald Trump. Eh? Eh? What do ya say? Vote for us?" There's literally no substance there. --- Who looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakes. <cite>StucklnMyPants posted [p:896439918] in Has the le... [t:76339469]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote>The republicans are slated to lose badly in 2018 if there isn't a serious overhaul on the left. They need no viable platform to run on.</quote> I mean, he has a point. Democrats at this point are still basically saying, "We're not Donald Trump. Eh? Eh? What do ya say? Vote for us?" There's literally no substance there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 02/20/18 1:58:38 PM #10:	GregShmedley posted... I think if they want a true chance of their "blue wave," they need to back off talks about neutering the 2nd Amendment. Neutering the second amendment is surprisingly popular with the masses. The main problem democrats have is getting their base out to vote in the first place. Quite frankly, independents are a fairly useless voter bloc that neither party values much at all. Especially during non-presidential years, as gerrymandering has already packed them away, unable to significantly influence the vote. Without checking, tell me if you're in a district that actually represents [redacted conservative county you're from] county, or one that also includes [redacted liberal county I'm from]. It's a trick question because the answer is yes--both districts including your county are heavily influenced by neighboring liberal counties due to gerrymandering, enough so that independents like you have no voice. It's common all over the nation, though more commonly done by the GOP than democrats. But both do it. Dems seem to mainly be hoping that feminism and minority rights issues will carry the day for them. For some reason they've largely retreated from the field on the discussion of labor vs capital, which is a shame. StucklnMyPants posted... I mean, he has a point. Democrats at this point are still basically saying, "We're not Donald Trump. Eh? Eh? What do ya say? Vote for us?" There's literally no substance there. And yet, it's been working. He has no point whatsoever. --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:896439991] in Has the le... [t:76339469]...</cite> <quote><cite>GregShmedley posted...</cite> <quote> I think if they want a true chance of their "blue wave," they need to back off talks about neutering the 2nd Amendment.</quote> Neutering the second amendment is surprisingly popular with the masses. The main problem democrats have is getting their base out to vote in the first place. Quite frankly, independents are a fairly useless voter bloc that neither party values much at all. Especially during non-presidential years, as gerrymandering has already packed them away, unable to significantly influence the vote. Without checking, tell me if you're in a district that actually represents [redacted conservative county you're from] county, or one that also includes [redacted liberal county I'm from]. It's a trick question because the answer is yes--both districts including your county are heavily influenced by neighboring liberal counties due to gerrymandering, enough so that independents like you have no voice. It's common all over the nation, though more commonly done by the GOP than democrats. But both do it. Dems seem to mainly be hoping that feminism and minority rights issues will carry the day for them. For some reason they've largely retreated from the field on the discussion of labor vs capital, which is a shame. <cite>StucklnMyPants posted...</cite> <quote>I mean, he has a point. Democrats at this point are still basically saying, "We're not Donald Trump. Eh? Eh? What do ya say? Vote for us?" There's literally no substance there. </quote> And yet, it's been working. He has no point whatsoever.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaname_Madoka 02/20/18 1:58:49 PM #11:	@Turbam posted... Libs in big trouble @Kaname_Madoka @byron Checkmate SJWs Kaname_Madoka wears a skirt and thigh highs to totally own the libs! --- Drawn for me: Volkswagen_Bros, ShinobiNinjaX, Popcorn_Fairy + Nayr626. https://imgur.com/gallery/B4o8m dont lose your wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy <cite>Kaname_Madoka posted [p:896440006] in Has the le... [t:76339469]...</cite> <quote><cite>@Turbam posted...</cite> <quote>Libs in big trouble @Kaname_Madoka @byron</quote> Checkmate SJWs Kaname_Madoka wears a skirt and thigh highs to totally own the libs!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DragonGirlYuki 02/20/18 1:59:36 PM #12:	The left has to stop with the identity politics crap. They also have no platform other than "We hate Trump." --- ~Yuki~ <cite>DragonGirlYuki posted [p:896440047] in Has the le... [t:76339469]...</cite> <quote>The left has to stop with the identity politics crap. They also have no platform other than "We hate Trump."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 02/20/18 2:02:44 PM #13:	DragonGirlYuki posted... The left has to stop with the identity politics crap. They also have no platform other than "We hate Trump." The left is not likely interested in winning your vote; they're much more likely interested in getting [insert college student you sneer at here] out to vote. At present, statistical analysis of the data suggests it likely will be enough, and it definitely would be enough if the challenges to gerrymandered congressional districts are settled in advance of the election. --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:896440248] in Has the le... [t:76339469]...</cite> <quote><cite>DragonGirlYuki posted...</cite> <quote>The left has to stop with the identity politics crap. They also have no platform other than "We hate Trump."</quote> The left is not likely interested in winning your vote; they're much more likely interested in getting [insert college student you sneer at here] out to vote. At present, statistical analysis of the data suggests it likely will be enough, and it definitely would be enough if the challenges to gerrymandered congressional districts are settled in advance of the election.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Genocet_10-325 02/20/18 2:03:31 PM #14:	DragonGirlYuki posted... The left has to stop with the identity politics crap. They also have no platform other than "We hate Trump." And yet, it's been working. --- Formerly known as The_Great_Geno Conservatism is a plague on society. <cite>Genocet_10-325 posted [p:896440295] in Has the le... [t:76339469]...</cite> <quote><cite>DragonGirlYuki posted...</cite> <quote>The left has to stop with the identity politics crap. They also have no platform other than "We hate Trump."</quote> And yet, it's been working.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VectorChaos 02/20/18 2:05:40 PM #15:	"But Trump" was such an effective strategy during the presidential election Oh wait. --- PSN VectorChaos http://i.imgur.com/ftMERkZ.jpg XBL Vector Chaos http://i.imgur.com/10hWZ95.png http://i.imgur.com/MZMOLx0.jpg http://i.imgur.com/R2jRl8F.jpg <cite>VectorChaos posted [p:896440409] in Has the le... [t:76339469]...</cite> <quote>"But Trump" was such an effective strategy during the presidential election Oh wait.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 02/20/18 2:05:58 PM #16:	"THE LEFT HAS NO PLATFORMS AND CAN'T WIN ANY ELECTIONS!" says the people who think elections stopped in November of 2016 and the Democrats haven't been winning race after race and out preforming like never before across the country since that date --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXezjbuzh14 <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:896440426] in Has the le... [t:76339469]...</cite> <quote>"THE LEFT HAS NO PLATFORMS AND CAN'T WIN ANY ELECTIONS!" says the people who think elections stopped in November of 2016 and the Democrats haven't been winning race after race and out preforming like never before across the country since that date</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Genocet_10-325 02/20/18 2:07:32 PM #17:	VectorChaos posted... "But Trump" was such an effective strategy during the presidential election Oh wait. It's been pretty damn effective in every election since then. Two governor races, a senate seat, and over 40 state legislature seats in special elections. --- Formerly known as The_Great_Geno Conservatism is a plague on society. <cite>Genocet_10-325 posted [p:896440523] in Has the le... [t:76339469]...</cite> <quote><cite>VectorChaos posted...</cite> <quote>"But Trump" was such an effective strategy during the presidential election Oh wait.</quote> It's been pretty damn effective in every election since then. Two governor races, a senate seat, and over 40 state legislature seats in special elections.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bloodydeath0 02/20/18 2:07:58 PM #18:	r4X0r posted... The Republicans are slated to win in 2018 if there isn't a serious overhaul on the left. They have no viable platforms to run on. i'm not too versed in HoR status, but since the Republicans have had the majority since 2011, and given the state of the Dems, i'd say this is probably accurate EndOfDiscOne posted... Implode both parties IMO agree. GregShmedley posted... r4X0r posted... The Republicans are slated to win in 2018 if there isn't a serious overhaul on the left. They have no viable platforms to run on. I think if they want a true chance of their "blue wave," they need to back off talks about neutering the 2nd Amendment. there's a balance to be struck with the 2nd amendment. the 2nd amendment is archaic and is hard to reasonably apply to modern times as it's unreasonable to argue that the people need the capability to form a militia in 2018. but it doesn't hurt for unforeseen scenarios in the future. that being said, placing a (temporary?) ban on AR-15s definitely will not hurt anyone. literally. StucklnMyPants posted... Darkman124 posted... The republicans are slated to lose badly in 2018 if there isn't a serious overhaul on the left. They need no viable platform to run on. I mean, he has a point. Democrats at this point are still basically saying, "We're not Donald Trump. Eh? Eh? What do ya say? Vote for us?" There's literally no substance there. especially when Trump isn't actually doing anything that bad. --- http://i.imgur.com/xHbbYI6.gif http://cdn1.sbnation.com/assets/3386905/G2-Ortiz-Slam.gif Anything too hard in life is not worth doing. -John McGuirk <cite>bloodydeath0 posted [p:896440561] in Has the le... [t:76339469]...</cite> <quote><cite>r4X0r posted...</cite> <quote>The Republicans are slated to win in 2018 if there isn't a serious overhaul on the left. They have no viable platforms to run on.</quote> i'm not too versed in HoR status, but since the Republicans have had the majority since 2011, and given the state of the Dems, i'd say this is probably accurate <cite>EndOfDiscOne posted...</cite> <quote>Implode both parties IMO</quote> agree. <cite>GregShmedley posted...</cite> <quote><cite>r4X0r posted...</cite> <quote>The Republicans are slated to win in 2018 if there isn't a serious overhaul on the left. They have no viable platforms to run on.</quote> I think if they want a true chance of their "blue wave," they need to back off talks about neutering the 2nd Amendment.</quote> there's a balance to be struck with the 2nd amendment. the 2nd amendment is archaic and is hard to reasonably apply to modern times as it's unreasonable to argue that the people need the capability to form a militia in 2018. but it doesn't hurt for unforeseen scenarios in the future. that being said, placing a (temporary?) ban on AR-15s definitely will not hurt anyone. literally. <cite>StucklnMyPants posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote>The republicans are slated to lose badly in 2018 if there isn't a serious overhaul on the left. They need no viable platform to run on.</quote> I mean, he has a point. Democrats at this point are still basically saying, "We're not Donald Trump. Eh? Eh? What do ya say? Vote for us?" There's literally no substance there.</quote> especially when Trump isn't actually doing anything that bad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Axiom 02/20/18 2:11:08 PM #19:	StucklnMyPants posted... Darkman124 posted... The republicans are slated to lose badly in 2018 if there isn't a serious overhaul on the left. They need no viable platform to run on. I mean, he has a point. Democrats at this point are still basically saying, "We're not Donald Trump. Eh? Eh? What do ya say? Vote for us?" There's literally no substance there. To be fair Trump is the entire reason "We're not Trump" is so effective. It's why notoriously red areas have been turning blue. There's really no reason to present anything other than "Hey look at the other guy. Do you really think people who put him in power should be elected" <cite>Axiom posted [p:896440743] in Has the le... [t:76339469]...</cite> <quote><cite>StucklnMyPants posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote>The republicans are slated to lose badly in 2018 if there isn't a serious overhaul on the left. They need no viable platform to run on.</quote> I mean, he has a point. Democrats at this point are still basically saying, "We're not Donald Trump. Eh? Eh? What do ya say? Vote for us?" There's literally no substance there.</quote> To be fair Trump is the entire reason "We're not Trump" is so effective. It's why notoriously red areas have been turning blue. There's really no reason to present anything other than "Hey look at the other guy. Do you really think people who put him in power should be elected"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 02/20/18 2:12:48 PM #20:	bloodydeath0 posted... i'm not too versed in HoR status, but since the Republicans have had the majority since 2011, and given the state of the Dems, i'd say this is probably accurate It's completely inaccurate and goes against every trend that we've seen since November 2016... --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXezjbuzh14 <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:896440842] in Has the le... [t:76339469]...</cite> <quote><cite>bloodydeath0 posted...</cite> <quote>i'm not too versed in HoR status, but since the Republicans have had the majority since 2011, and given the state of the Dems, i'd say this is probably accurate </quote> It's completely inaccurate and goes against every trend that we've seen since November 2016...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darkman124 02/20/18 2:13:49 PM #22:	The Great Muta 22 posted... bloodydeath0 posted... i'm not too versed in HoR status, but since the Republicans have had the majority since 2011, and given the state of the Dems, i'd say this is probably accurate It's completely inaccurate and goes against every trend that we've seen since November 2016... Also all data available, and anything that could be even loosely connected to reality. --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:896440897] in Has the le... [t:76339469]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>bloodydeath0 posted...</cite> <quote>i'm not too versed in HoR status, but since the Republicans have had the majority since 2011, and given the state of the Dems, i'd say this is probably accurate </quote> It's completely inaccurate and goes against every trend that we've seen since November 2016...</quote> Also all data available, and anything that could be even loosely connected to reality.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Uncle Choad 02/20/18 2:15:47 PM #23:	It'll probably implode when their PR budget dries up and they can no longer pay the media to push their agenda (while they hide behind it). Not that any of it really matters, though. I'm just glad that Trump is getting all the blame. It means liberals believe he has the power to personally fix every problem. What a guy! --- Oden ska fa sin hamnd. Jag ska doda er alla, sen ska jag dricka mjod med honom. <cite>Uncle Choad posted [p:896441006] in Has the le... [t:76339469]...</cite> <quote>It'll probably implode when their PR budget dries up and they can no longer pay the media to push their agenda (while they hide behind it). Not that any of it really matters, though. I'm just glad that Trump is getting all the blame. It means liberals believe he has the power to personally fix every problem. What a guy!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Genocet_10-325 02/20/18 2:16:59 PM #24:	Darkman124 posted... The Great Muta 22 posted... bloodydeath0 posted... i'm not too versed in HoR status, but since the Republicans have had the majority since 2011, and given the state of the Dems, i'd say this is probably accurate It's completely inaccurate and goes against every trend that we've seen since November 2016... Also all data available, and anything that could be even loosely connected to reality. It's actually good a lot of Republicans think the Democrats don't stand a chance. That means they'll stay home and not vote in November. Democratic turnout has been at record highs in every election since Trump won. Having record low Republican turnout at this point is just gravy --- Formerly known as The_Great_Geno Conservatism is a plague on society. <cite>Genocet_10-325 posted [p:896441066] in Has the le... [t:76339469]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>bloodydeath0 posted...</cite> <quote>i'm not too versed in HoR status, but since the Republicans have had the majority since 2011, and given the state of the Dems, i'd say this is probably accurate </quote> It's completely inaccurate and goes against every trend that we've seen since November 2016...</quote> Also all data available, and anything that could be even loosely connected to reality.</quote> It's actually good a lot of Republicans think the Democrats don't stand a chance. That means they'll stay home and not vote in November. Democratic turnout has been at record highs in every election since Trump won. Having record low Republican turnout at this point is just gravy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ultimate reaver 02/20/18 2:19:04 PM #25:	Right now we're in the "Republican Presidency Phase", where the republicans have just busted down the doors and are frantically stuffing their pockets full of cash at the expense of everyone else while Trump distracts them. Give it a year or two and we'll enter the "Wait A Second, Republicans Suck" phase where people finally notice what they're doing and we'll see how things go --- butts <cite>ultimate reaver posted [p:896441196] in Has the le... [t:76339469]...</cite> <quote>Right now we're in the "Republican Presidency Phase", where the republicans have just busted down the doors and are frantically stuffing their pockets full of cash at the expense of everyone else while Trump distracts them. Give it a year or two and we'll enter the "Wait A Second, Republicans Suck" phase where people finally notice what they're doing and we'll see how things go</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bloodydeath0 02/20/18 2:21:00 PM #26:	Darkman124 posted... The Great Muta 22 posted... bloodydeath0 posted... i'm not too versed in HoR status, but since the Republicans have had the majority since 2011, and given the state of the Dems, i'd say this is probably accurate It's completely inaccurate and goes against every trend that we've seen since November 2016... Also all data available, and anything that could be even loosely connected to reality. https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/02/15/midterm-election-democrats-trump-216978 thanks for the kind wording though --- http://i.imgur.com/xHbbYI6.gif http://cdn1.sbnation.com/assets/3386905/G2-Ortiz-Slam.gif Anything too hard in life is not worth doing. -John McGuirk <cite>bloodydeath0 posted [p:896441315] in Has the le... [t:76339469]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>bloodydeath0 posted...</cite> <quote>i'm not too versed in HoR status, but since the Republicans have had the majority since 2011, and given the state of the Dems, i'd say this is probably accurate </quote> It's completely inaccurate and goes against every trend that we've seen since November 2016...</quote> Also all data available, and anything that could be even loosely connected to reality.</quote> https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/02/15/midterm-election-democrats-trump-216978 thanks for the kind wording though</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Genocet_10-325 02/20/18 2:21:30 PM #27:	ultimate reaver posted... Right now we're in the "Republican Presidency Phase", where the republicans have just busted down the doors and are frantically stuffing their pockets full of cash at the expense of everyone else while Trump distracts them. Give it a year or two and we'll enter the "Wait A Second, Republicans Suck" phase where people finally notice what they're doing and we'll see how things go People have already noticed. That's why Democrats have been winning state level special elections in districts so red that you usually can't even find a Democrat to bother trying, like in MO and WI --- Formerly known as The_Great_Geno Conservatism is a plague on society. <cite>Genocet_10-325 posted [p:896441344] in Has the le... [t:76339469]...</cite> <quote><cite>ultimate reaver posted...</cite> <quote>Right now we're in the "Republican Presidency Phase", where the republicans have just busted down the doors and are frantically stuffing their pockets full of cash at the expense of everyone else while Trump distracts them. Give it a year or two and we'll enter the "Wait A Second, Republicans Suck" phase where people finally notice what they're doing and we'll see how things go</quote> People have already noticed. That's why Democrats have been winning state level special elections in districts so red that you usually can't even find a Democrat to bother trying, like in MO and WI</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darkman124 02/20/18 2:27:11 PM #29:	bloodydeath0 posted... Darkman124 posted... The Great Muta 22 posted... bloodydeath0 posted... i'm not too versed in HoR status, but since the Republicans have had the majority since 2011, and given the state of the Dems, i'd say this is probably accurate It's completely inaccurate and goes against every trend that we've seen since November 2016... Also all data available, and anything that could be even loosely connected to reality. https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/02/15/midterm-election-democrats-trump-216978 thanks for the kind wording though Focus on the data. https://realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/2018_generic_congressional_vote-6185.html But consider also this from your own, hastily sought out article: There are signs that Trumps ratings may be improvingMorning Consult reports a measurable bumpbut if the president remains underwater through this year, we may see a midterm election unlike any in memory, when the White House party has to contend with a president who is unpopular essentially because of his own conduct and character, rather than the broader state of the union. --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:896441694] in Has the le... [t:76339469]...</cite> <quote><cite>bloodydeath0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>bloodydeath0 posted...</cite> <quote>i'm not too versed in HoR status, but since the Republicans have had the majority since 2011, and given the state of the Dems, i'd say this is probably accurate </quote> It's completely inaccurate and goes against every trend that we've seen since November 2016...</quote> Also all data available, and anything that could be even loosely connected to reality.</quote> https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/02/15/midterm-election-democrats-trump-216978 thanks for the kind wording though</quote> Focus on the data. https://realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/2018_generic_congressional_vote-6185.html But consider also this from your own, hastily sought out article: <quote>There are signs that Trumps ratings may be improvingMorning Consult reports a measurable bumpbut if the president remains underwater through this year, we may see a midterm election unlike any in memory, when the White House party has to contend with a president who is unpopular essentially because of his own conduct and character, rather than the broader state of the union.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 02/20/18 2:28:42 PM #30:	bloodydeath0 posted... Darkman124 posted... The Great Muta 22 posted... bloodydeath0 posted... i'm not too versed in HoR status, but since the Republicans have had the majority since 2011, and given the state of the Dems, i'd say this is probably accurate It's completely inaccurate and goes against every trend that we've seen since November 2016... Also all data available, and anything that could be even loosely connected to reality. https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/02/15/midterm-election-democrats-trump-216978 thanks for the kind wording though You just did a quick google search and pasted an article without reading it, didn't you? Hell, you admitting your ignorance to how the House races are shaping up means your opinion on this matter is utterly irrelevant. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXezjbuzh14 <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:896441765] in Has the le... [t:76339469]...</cite> <quote><cite>bloodydeath0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>bloodydeath0 posted...</cite> <quote>i'm not too versed in HoR status, but since the Republicans have had the majority since 2011, and given the state of the Dems, i'd say this is probably accurate </quote> It's completely inaccurate and goes against every trend that we've seen since November 2016...</quote> Also all data available, and anything that could be even loosely connected to reality.</quote> https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/02/15/midterm-election-democrats-trump-216978 thanks for the kind wording though</quote> You just did a quick google search and pasted an article without reading it, didn't you? Hell, you admitting your ignorance to how the House races are shaping up means your opinion on this matter is utterly irrelevant.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Genocet_10-325 02/20/18 2:29:52 PM #31:	The Great Muta 22 posted... bloodydeath0 posted... Darkman124 posted... The Great Muta 22 posted... bloodydeath0 posted... i'm not too versed in HoR status, but since the Republicans have had the majority since 2011, and given the state of the Dems, i'd say this is probably accurate It's completely inaccurate and goes against every trend that we've seen since November 2016... Also all data available, and anything that could be even loosely connected to reality. https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/02/15/midterm-election-democrats-trump-216978 thanks for the kind wording though You just did a quick google search and pasted an article without reading it, didn't you? Hell, you admitting your ignorance to how the House races are shaping up means your opinion on this matter is utterly irrelevant. Yeah. You can tell he literally only read the title. --- Formerly known as The_Great_Geno Conservatism is a plague on society. <cite>Genocet_10-325 posted [p:896441842] in Has the le... [t:76339469]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>bloodydeath0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>bloodydeath0 posted...</cite> <quote>i'm not too versed in HoR status, but since the Republicans have had the majority since 2011, and given the state of the Dems, i'd say this is probably accurate </quote> It's completely inaccurate and goes against every trend that we've seen since November 2016...</quote> Also all data available, and anything that could be even loosely connected to reality.</quote> https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/02/15/midterm-election-democrats-trump-216978 thanks for the kind wording though</quote> You just did a quick google search and pasted an article without reading it, didn't you? Hell, you admitting your ignorance to how the House races are shaping up means your opinion on this matter is utterly irrelevant.</quote> Yeah. You can tell he literally only read the title.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 02/20/18 2:30:30 PM #32:	What is true is that gerrymandering remains a significant obstacle for house dems to overcome. However, right now their generic ballot advantage is consistent with the overall gerrymander advantage, and multiple states will have their gerrymanders totally destroyed before the election. --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:896441881] in Has the le... [t:76339469]...</cite> <quote>What is true is that gerrymandering remains a significant obstacle for house dems to overcome. However, right now their generic ballot advantage is consistent with the overall gerrymander advantage, and multiple states will have their gerrymanders totally destroyed before the election.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bloodydeath0 02/20/18 2:31:47 PM #34:	Darkman124 posted... Focus on the data. https://realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/2018_generic_congressional_vote-6185.html Opposing party always gains ground in mid terms. That doesn't mean they "won". --- http://i.imgur.com/xHbbYI6.gif http://cdn1.sbnation.com/assets/3386905/G2-Ortiz-Slam.gif Anything too hard in life is not worth doing. -John McGuirk <cite>bloodydeath0 posted [p:896441969] in Has the le... [t:76339469]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote>Focus on the data. https://realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/2018_generic_congressional_vote-6185.html</quote> Opposing party always gains ground in mid terms. That doesn't mean they "won".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Genocet_10-325 02/20/18 2:32:41 PM #35:	Darkman124 posted... What is true is that gerrymandering remains a significant obstacle for house dems to overcome. However, right now their generic ballot advantage is consistent with the overall gerrymander advantage, and multiple states will have their gerrymanders totally destroyed before the election. PA actually had their gerrymandering killed yesterday. The map was redrawn and if the 2016 election happened again with the new map Democrats would have 5 more house seats automatically --- Formerly known as The_Great_Geno Conservatism is a plague on society. <cite>Genocet_10-325 posted [p:896442040] in Has the le... [t:76339469]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote>What is true is that gerrymandering remains a significant obstacle for house dems to overcome. However, right now their generic ballot advantage is consistent with the overall gerrymander advantage, and multiple states will have their gerrymanders totally destroyed before the election.</quote> PA actually had their gerrymandering killed yesterday. The map was redrawn and if the 2016 election happened again with the new map Democrats would have 5 more house seats automatically</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 02/20/18 2:33:43 PM #36:	Genocet_10-325 posted... PA actually had their gerrymandering killed yesterday. The map was redrawn and if the 2016 election happened again with the new map Democrats would have 5 more house seats automatically I'm quite aware. Wisconsin's is also under review with a very high probability of the SC overturning it, which would have dramatic national consequences. North Carolina's will be overturned, though probably not before the election. Possibly, though, if the WI case institutes a national mandate for the state legislatures to be stripped of this power, their influence over the federal government shattered. I'd be delighted to see the outcome of that. Greg and I live in another of the most gerrymandered states, and I'd prefer to see ours undone as well, even though it helps democrats (a little. realistically, GOP will never hold more than 2 districts here). --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:896442101] in Has the le... [t:76339469]...</cite> <quote><cite>Genocet_10-325 posted...</cite> <quote> PA actually had their gerrymandering killed yesterday. The map was redrawn and if the 2016 election happened again with the new map Democrats would have 5 more house seats automatically </quote> I'm quite aware. Wisconsin's is also under review with a very high probability of the SC overturning it, which would have dramatic national consequences. North Carolina's will be overturned, though probably not before the election. Possibly, though, if the WI case institutes a national mandate for the state legislatures to be stripped of this power, their influence over the federal government shattered. I'd be delighted to see the outcome of that. Greg and I live in another of the most gerrymandered states, and I'd prefer to see ours undone as well, even though it helps democrats (a little. realistically, GOP will never hold more than 2 districts here).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkProto05 02/20/18 2:36:37 PM #37:	The Repubs bashed Obama until their tongues fell off but god forbid we talk about how shitty Trump is. LMAO --- Alpha Sapphire FC: 2552 5569 3267 <cite>DarkProto05 posted [p:896442288] in Has the le... [t:76339469]...</cite> <quote>The Repubs bashed Obama until their tongues fell off but god forbid we talk about how shitty Trump is. LMAO</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 02/20/18 2:37:31 PM #38:	These polls suggest gun control public opinion is in line with the Democrats: https://www.npr.org/2017/10/13/557433452/poll-majorities-of-both-parties-favor-increased-gun-restrictions (from after Las Vegas) http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/inaction-mass-shootings-mental-health-screening-priority-poll/story?id=53205008 (Post-Florida) https://twitter.com/RussellBlairCT/status/966029640967090176 (post-Florida) But with how fast the news cycle moves, who can say if that will be a priority come November? I imagine GOP efforts to undo the safety net might be a big issue. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:896442345] in Has the le... [t:76339469]...</cite> <quote>These polls suggest gun control public opinion is in line with the Democrats: https://www.npr.org/2017/10/13/557433452/poll-majorities-of-both-parties-favor-increased-gun-restrictions (from after Las Vegas) http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/inaction-mass-shootings-mental-health-screening-priority-poll/story?id=53205008 (Post-Florida) https://twitter.com/RussellBlairCT/status/966029640967090176 (post-Florida) But with how fast the news cycle moves, who can say if that will be a priority come November? I imagine GOP efforts to undo the safety net might be a big issue.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 02/20/18 2:41:15 PM #39:	EndOfDiscOne posted... Implode both parties IMO --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:896442573] in Has the le... [t:76339469]...</cite> <quote><cite>EndOfDiscOne posted...</cite> <quote>Implode both parties IMO</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 02/20/18 2:42:38 PM #40:	Antifar posted... These polls suggest gun control public opinion is in line with the Democrats: https://www.npr.org/2017/10/13/557433452/poll-majorities-of-both-parties-favor-increased-gun-restrictions (from after Las Vegas) http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/inaction-mass-shootings-mental-health-screening-priority-poll/story?id=53205008 (Post-Florida) https://twitter.com/RussellBlairCT/status/966029640967090176 (post-Florida) But with how fast the news cycle moves, who can say if that will be a priority come November? I imagine GOP efforts to undo the safety net might be a big issue. Who knows. Maybe another major shooting will happen around November. --- http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:896442662] in Has the le... [t:76339469]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>These polls suggest gun control public opinion is in line with the Democrats: https://www.npr.org/2017/10/13/557433452/poll-majorities-of-both-parties-favor-increased-gun-restrictions (from after Las Vegas) http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/inaction-mass-shootings-mental-health-screening-priority-poll/story?id=53205008 (Post-Florida) https://twitter.com/RussellBlairCT/status/966029640967090176 (post-Florida) But with how fast the news cycle moves, who can say if that will be a priority come November? I imagine GOP efforts to undo the safety net might be a big issue.</quote> Who knows. Maybe another major shooting will happen around November.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bloodydeath0 02/20/18 2:47:36 PM #41:	Tmaster148 posted... Antifar posted... These polls suggest gun control public opinion is in line with the Democrats: https://www.npr.org/2017/10/13/557433452/poll-majorities-of-both-parties-favor-increased-gun-restrictions (from after Las Vegas) http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/inaction-mass-shootings-mental-health-screening-priority-poll/story?id=53205008 (Post-Florida) https://twitter.com/RussellBlairCT/status/966029640967090176 (post-Florida) But with how fast the news cycle moves, who can say if that will be a priority come November? I imagine GOP efforts to undo the safety net might be a big issue. Who knows. Maybe another major shooting will happen around November. more than likely at this rate --- http://i.imgur.com/xHbbYI6.gif http://cdn1.sbnation.com/assets/3386905/G2-Ortiz-Slam.gif Anything too hard in life is not worth doing. -John McGuirk <cite>bloodydeath0 posted [p:896443008] in Has the le... [t:76339469]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>These polls suggest gun control public opinion is in line with the Democrats: https://www.npr.org/2017/10/13/557433452/poll-majorities-of-both-parties-favor-increased-gun-restrictions (from after Las Vegas) http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/inaction-mass-shootings-mental-health-screening-priority-poll/story?id=53205008 (Post-Florida) https://twitter.com/RussellBlairCT/status/966029640967090176 (post-Florida) But with how fast the news cycle moves, who can say if that will be a priority come November? I imagine GOP efforts to undo the safety net might be a big issue.</quote> Who knows. Maybe another major shooting will happen around November.</quote> more than likely at this rate</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SomeonesAlt 02/20/18 2:50:53 PM #42:	bloodydeath0 posted... Darkman124 posted... Focus on the data. https://realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/2018_generic_congressional_vote-6185.html Opposing party always gains ground in mid terms. That doesn't mean they "won". What's your criteria for "winning"? --- But Whose? <cite>SomeonesAlt posted [p:896443206] in Has the le... [t:76339469]...</cite> <quote><cite>bloodydeath0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote>Focus on the data. https://realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/2018_generic_congressional_vote-6185.html</quote> Opposing party always gains ground in mid terms. That doesn't mean they "won".</quote> What's your criteria for "winning"?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 02/20/18 2:58:39 PM #43:	SomeonesAlt posted... bloodydeath0 posted... Darkman124 posted... Focus on the data. https://realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/2018_generic_congressional_vote-6185.html Opposing party always gains ground in mid terms. That doesn't mean they "won". What's your criteria for "winning"? I assume he means gaining control of a house they previously didn't hold. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:896443682] in Has the le... [t:76339469]...</cite> <quote><cite>SomeonesAlt posted...</cite> <quote><cite>bloodydeath0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote>Focus on the data. https://realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/2018_generic_congressional_vote-6185.html</quote> Opposing party always gains ground in mid terms. That doesn't mean they "won".</quote> What's your criteria for "winning"?</quote> I assume he means gaining control of a house they previously didn't hold.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 02/20/18 3:01:30 PM #44:	Can anyone articulate what the Democratic platform is in 2018? The whole "we're not Trump" thing didn't work out so great in 2016, and if they haven't made any progress in 2 years, I wouldn't be counting on this "landslide" victory some of you think is going to happen. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:896443834] in Has the le... [t:76339469]...</cite> <quote>Can anyone articulate what the Democratic platform is in 2018? The whole "we're not Trump" thing didn't work out so great in 2016, and if they haven't made any progress in 2 years, I wouldn't be counting on this "landslide" victory some of you think is going to happen.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 02/20/18 3:02:37 PM #45:	The Admiral posted... Can anyone articulate what the Democratic platform is in 2018? The whole "we're not Trump" thing didn't work out so great in 2016, and if they haven't made any progress in 2 years, I wouldn't be counting on this "landslide" victory some of you think is going to happen. "We're not racist pieces of shit who beat women. They are." I'm not pleased with the choice, but to say it is not working is to lie, especially considering the progress they've made in the vast majority of elections, most of which were (very) favorable to the republican contenders. Perhaps the GOP should stop empowering racist pieces of shit who (literally) beat women. Perhaps. Dems seem ready to step aside on the economic argument entirely. Isn't that all GOP leaders really care about? --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:896443903] in Has the le... [t:76339469]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Can anyone articulate what the Democratic platform is in 2018? The whole "we're not Trump" thing didn't work out so great in 2016, and if they haven't made any progress in 2 years, I wouldn't be counting on this "landslide" victory some of you think is going to happen. </quote> "We're not racist pieces of shit who beat women. They are." I'm not pleased with the choice, but to say it is not working is to lie, especially considering the progress they've made in the vast majority of elections, most of which were (very) favorable to the republican contenders. Perhaps the GOP should stop empowering racist pieces of shit who (literally) beat women. Perhaps. Dems seem ready to step aside on the economic argument entirely. Isn't that all GOP leaders really care about?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 02/20/18 3:06:29 PM #46:	Darkman124 posted... The Admiral posted... Can anyone articulate what the Democratic platform is in 2018? The whole "we're not Trump" thing didn't work out so great in 2016, and if they haven't made any progress in 2 years, I wouldn't be counting on this "landslide" victory some of you think is going to happen. "We're not racist pieces of shit who beat women. They are." I'm not pleased with the choice, but to say it is not working is to lie, especially considering the progress they've made in the vast majority of elections, most of which were (very) favorable to the republican contenders. Perhaps the GOP should stop empowering racist pieces of shit who (literally) beat women. Perhaps. Dems seem ready to step aside on the economic argument entirely. You seem very uncharacteristically angry today. But that aside, you haven't articulated any sort of platform either. The Democratic voters are notoriously lazy, especially in midterm elections, and aren't going to show up in tremendous numbers if there isn't something compelling to vote for. Hating the standing president alone didn't work for them in 2004, so I'm not buying that as a great motivator now. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:896444121] in Has the le... [t:76339469]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Can anyone articulate what the Democratic platform is in 2018? The whole "we're not Trump" thing didn't work out so great in 2016, and if they haven't made any progress in 2 years, I wouldn't be counting on this "landslide" victory some of you think is going to happen. </quote> "We're not racist pieces of shit who beat women. They are." I'm not pleased with the choice, but to say it is not working is to lie, especially considering the progress they've made in the vast majority of elections, most of which were (very) favorable to the republican contenders. Perhaps the GOP should stop empowering racist pieces of shit who (literally) beat women. Perhaps. Dems seem ready to step aside on the economic argument entirely.</quote> You seem very uncharacteristically angry today. But that aside, you haven't articulated any sort of platform either. The Democratic voters are notoriously lazy, especially in midterm elections, and aren't going to show up in tremendous numbers if there isn't something compelling to vote for. Hating the standing president alone didn't work for them in 2004, so I'm not buying that as a great motivator now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 02/20/18 3:11:25 PM #47:	The Admiral posted... Hating the standing president alone didn't work for them in 2004, so I'm not buying that as a great motivator now. Bush was well liked in 2004. Democrats swept into power in 2006 though. Anyways, I think you'd have to at least wait for the primaries to get a sense of where the Democratic message stands. Preliminarily, I'd say "We're the party that didn't try to take away health insurance from the poor to give tax cuts to your boss." --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:896444388] in Has the le... [t:76339469]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Hating the standing president alone didn't work for them in 2004, so I'm not buying that as a great motivator now.</quote> Bush was well liked in 2004. Democrats swept into power in 2006 though. Anyways, I think you'd have to at least wait for the primaries to get a sense of where the Democratic message stands. Preliminarily, I'd say "We're the party that didn't try to take away health insurance from the poor to give tax cuts to your boss."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 02/20/18 3:13:15 PM #48:	The Admiral posted... You seem very uncharacteristically angry today. But that aside, you haven't articulated any sort of platform either. The Democratic voters are notoriously lazy, especially in midterm elections, and aren't going to show up in tremendous numbers if there isn't something compelling to vote for. Hating the standing president alone didn't work for them in 2004, so I'm not buying that as a great motivator now. in case it's not clear i am disappointed in their lack of platform i just think your assumptions about the outcome are unrealistically optimistic also it's not typical for opposition parties to have a platform The Admiral posted... The Democratic voters are notoriously lazy, especially in midterm elections, and aren't going to show up in tremendous numbers if there isn't something compelling to vote for. midterm turnout is about providing something to vote against. they have that. --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:896444487] in Has the le... [t:76339469]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote> You seem very uncharacteristically angry today. But that aside, you haven't articulated any sort of platform either. The Democratic voters are notoriously lazy, especially in midterm elections, and aren't going to show up in tremendous numbers if there isn't something compelling to vote for. Hating the standing president alone didn't work for them in 2004, so I'm not buying that as a great motivator now. </quote> in case it's not clear i am disappointed in their lack of platform i just think your assumptions about the outcome are unrealistically optimistic also it's not typical for opposition parties to have a platform <cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote> The Democratic voters are notoriously lazy, especially in midterm elections, and aren't going to show up in tremendous numbers if there isn't something compelling to vote for.</quote> midterm turnout is about providing something to vote against. they have that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darkman124 02/20/18 3:23:32 PM #50:	as to gun control, i feel we're looking at one of three things: 1) 'assault weapons ban': a meaningless token gesture that bans a cosmetic style and does not keep anyone any safer 2) 'semiautomatic fire weapons ban' : neutering of the second amendment. gl enforcing. 3) expansion of background check system- what people actually want. keeps us safer, but probably won't alter the frequency of these tragedies, and may push us towards 2). GregShmedley posted... It could carry the day if radicals didn't muddy the water, IMO. i honestly have no real understanding of why dems abandoned labor. --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:896445069] in Has the le... [t:76339469]...</cite> <quote>as to gun control, i feel we're looking at one of three things: 1) 'assault weapons ban': a meaningless token gesture that bans a cosmetic style and does not keep anyone any safer 2) 'semiautomatic fire weapons ban' : neutering of the second amendment. gl enforcing. 3) expansion of background check system- what people actually want. keeps us safer, but probably won't alter the frequency of these tragedies, and may push us towards 2). <cite>GregShmedley posted...</cite> <quote> It could carry the day if radicals didn't muddy the water, IMO. </quote> i honestly have no real understanding of why dems abandoned labor.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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