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nevershine
02/19/18 7:06:25 PM
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Just a thought cause @Kaname_Madoka and I just became friends on gamefaqs
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Deadpool_18
02/19/18 7:06:49 PM
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Not like today.
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halomonkey1_3_5
02/19/18 7:07:36 PM
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in some places
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Dash_Harber
02/19/18 7:08:54 PM
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Kaname_Madoka
02/19/18 7:09:36 PM
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Yes.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_history
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LordRazziel
02/19/18 7:09:40 PM
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There are trans Peeps?!
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nevershine
02/19/18 7:10:19 PM
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LordRazziel posted...
There are trans Peeps?!

Yep sure enough
Peeps are peeps fr fr
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Unsugarized_Foo
02/19/18 7:13:36 PM
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Peeps are disgusting
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andel
02/19/18 7:14:03 PM
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Unsugarized_Foo posted...
Peeps are disgusting


worst opinion
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LordRazziel
02/19/18 7:14:46 PM
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nevershine posted...
LordRazziel posted...
There are trans Peeps?!

Yep sure enough
Peeps are peeps fr fr

These guys say woosh!

26otZ1u
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Kaname_Madoka
02/19/18 7:15:48 PM
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Unsugarized_Foo posted...
Peeps are disgusting

Shut the fuck up.
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Unsugarized_Foo
02/19/18 7:46:47 PM
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Kaname_Madoka posted...
Unsugarized_Foo posted...
Peeps are disgusting

Shut the fuck up.


Fill your peep hole with that shit and leave me alone
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nevershine
02/19/18 7:50:14 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Yes

What'd they do bout it?
We're there any procedures at that time?

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Kaname_Madoka
02/19/18 7:52:34 PM
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nevershine posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Yes

What'd they do bout it?
We're there any procedures at that time?

Some repressed it

Some got into magical pills (read: placebos) that would turn them into women

Some would (literally) get their dicks chopped off and basically live their lives as really ugly flat chested women (which weren't uncommon so)
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Paper_Okami
02/19/18 7:53:30 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lili_Elbe one of the first people to receive gender surgery.
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hollow_shrine
02/19/18 7:58:41 PM
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Surgery is a relatively recent development, but people have experienced symptoms we would probably diagnose as gender dysphoria since antiquity. We know this because some of those languages have words describing people going through these or similar situations. It's worth mentioning that for a lot of these cultures masculinity and feminity were not necessarily mutually exclusive. So ideas of gender aren't really fully translatable across languages here.
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LordRazziel
02/19/18 8:20:15 PM
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hollow_shrine posted...
Surgery is a relatively recent development, but people have experienced symptoms we would probably diagnose as gender dysphoria since antiquity. We know this because some of those languages have words describing people going through these or similar situations. It's worth mentioning that for a lot of these cultures masculinity and feminity were not necessarily mutually exclusive. So ideas of gender aren't really fully translatable across languages here.

I know the Egyptians emphasized a balance of masculine and feminine.
Got that from The Pyramid Code. Some of the little legitimate info in that series.
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Antifar
02/19/18 8:23:00 PM
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Dash_Harber
02/19/18 11:47:44 PM
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hollow_shrine posted...
Surgery is a relatively recent development, but people have experienced symptoms we would probably diagnose as gender dysphoria since antiquity. We know this because some of those languages have words describing people going through these or similar situations. It's worth mentioning that for a lot of these cultures masculinity and feminity were not necessarily mutually exclusive. So ideas of gender aren't really fully translatable across languages here.


Worth pointing out to is that over any given period of time, masculine and feminine actually tend to swap a lot of traits. For example, makeup was used by men in several cultures. We often erroneously assume that what we think of masculine and feminine are based on historical values, but they are incredibly new.

LordRazziel posted...

I know the Egyptians emphasized a balance of masculine and feminine.
Got that from The Pyramid Code. Some of the little legitimate info in that series.


It's actually an interesting concept. I know that Daoism distinctly divides masculine and feminine as two distinct forces, which people often interpret as a rigidly defined system, ignoring the fact that Daoism also teaches that one should cultivate a balance of forces in their life in order to live a full life. In fact, pure masculinity is also in the same category as drought, illustrating the fact that people need to achieve a balance of masculinity and feminity to survive.
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