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Very_Unreliable 02/19/18 12:15:47 AM #51:	Gamer99z posted... It's literally fake news that insecure religious people call out when presented with facts that conflict with their beliefs or who feel entitled to have their beliefs regurgitated by everyone. Oh no, someone is actually separating church and state and taking a nativity scene off government property! Oh no, some cashier at Target said Happy Holidays.... *`HAPPY HOLIDAYS!`* What the fuck, my coffee cup they I never pay any attention to isn't clearly supporting my preferred religious holiday! Oh my God! Some biologist is trying to get evolution taught in schools! What the hell, the government is letting men marry men and women marry women? What's next, they're coming to take my bible and force me to be gay? Some politician running isn't a Christian? Our nation was built on Christianity, they hate America and want to erase my religion! Some people have these beliefs. None of them are why I say Christians face a peculiar amount of ridicule and imo persecution in this country. --- RyuGigas <cite>Very_Unreliable posted [p:896349386] in in what wa... [t:76334330]...</cite> <quote><cite>Gamer99z posted...</cite> <quote>It's literally fake news that insecure religious people call out when presented with facts that conflict with their beliefs or who feel entitled to have their beliefs regurgitated by everyone. Oh no, someone is actually separating church and state and taking a nativity scene off government property! Oh no, some cashier at Target said Happy Holidays.... HAPPY HOLIDAYS! What the fuck, my coffee cup they I never pay any attention to isn't clearly supporting my preferred religious holiday! Oh my God! Some biologist is trying to get evolution taught in schools! What the hell, the government is letting men marry men and women marry women? What's next, they're coming to take my bible and force me to be gay? Some politician running isn't a Christian? Our nation was built on Christianity, they hate America and want to erase my religion!</quote> Some people have these beliefs. None of them are why I say Christians face a peculiar amount of ridicule and imo persecution in this country.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThanksUglyGod 02/19/18 12:16:43 AM #52:	Very_Unreliable posted... ThanksUglyGod posted... It's socially acceptable to make fun of Christians because most of the people doing the ridiculing either are or were raised Christian. I was too; that doesn't make the mainstream sanctification of their ridicule okay, unless that is held for everyone likewise. It is Women ridicule women Black people ridicule black people Gay people ridicule gay people Jewish people ridicule Jewish people <cite>ThanksUglyGod posted [p:896349440] in in what wa... [t:76334330]...</cite> <quote><cite>Very_Unreliable posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThanksUglyGod posted...</cite> <quote>It's socially acceptable to make fun of Christians because most of the people doing the ridiculing either are or were raised Christian.</quote> I was too; that doesn't make the mainstream sanctification of their ridicule okay, unless that is held for everyone likewise.</quote> It is Women ridicule women Black people ridicule black people Gay people ridicule gay people Jewish people ridicule Jewish people</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Very_Unreliable 02/19/18 12:18:53 AM #53:	0AbsoluteZero0 posted... Gamer99z posted... It's literally fake news that insecure religious people call out when presented with facts that conflict with their beliefs or who feel entitled to have their beliefs regurgitated by everyone. Oh no, someone is actually separating church and state and taking a nativity scene off government property! Oh no, some cashier at Target said Happy Holidays.... *`HAPPY HOLIDAYS!`* What the fuck, my coffee cup they I never pay any attention to isn't clearly supporting my preferred religious holiday! Oh my God! Some biologist is trying to get evolution taught in schools! What the hell, the government is letting men marry men and women marry women? What's next, they're coming to take my bible and force me to be gay? Some politician running isn't a Christian? Our nation was built on Christianity, they hate America and want to erase my religion! This, so much. Its absurd that Christians can take things like these and twist it into them being persecuted. Well said, Gamer. I mean here you go again "Christians are doing this!" Which Christians? All of them? Most of them even? No. Mainline protestants and Catholics make up the overwhelming bulk of Christians in this country and most of them (over 70%) are fine with homosexual marriage. --- RyuGigas <cite>Very_Unreliable posted [p:896349557] in in what wa... [t:76334330]...</cite> <quote><cite>0AbsoluteZero0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Gamer99z posted...</cite> <quote>It's literally fake news that insecure religious people call out when presented with facts that conflict with their beliefs or who feel entitled to have their beliefs regurgitated by everyone. Oh no, someone is actually separating church and state and taking a nativity scene off government property! Oh no, some cashier at Target said Happy Holidays.... HAPPY HOLIDAYS! What the fuck, my coffee cup they I never pay any attention to isn't clearly supporting my preferred religious holiday! Oh my God! Some biologist is trying to get evolution taught in schools! What the hell, the government is letting men marry men and women marry women? What's next, they're coming to take my bible and force me to be gay? Some politician running isn't a Christian? Our nation was built on Christianity, they hate America and want to erase my religion!</quote> This, so much. Its absurd that Christians can take things like these and twist it into them being persecuted. Well said, Gamer.</quote> I mean here you go again "Christians are doing this!" Which Christians? All of them? Most of them even? No. Mainline protestants and Catholics make up the overwhelming bulk of Christians in this country and most of them (over 70%) are fine with homosexual marriage.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Very_Unreliable 02/19/18 12:20:04 AM #54:	ThanksUglyGod posted... Very_Unreliable posted... ThanksUglyGod posted... It's socially acceptable to make fun of Christians because most of the people doing the ridiculing either are or were raised Christian. I was too; that doesn't make the mainstream sanctification of their ridicule okay, unless that is held for everyone likewise. It is Women ridicule women Black people ridicule black people Gay people ridicule gay people Jewish people ridicule Jewish people If you are no longer a Christian... then you're not a Christian. So it then becomes Non-Christians ridicule Christians --- RyuGigas <cite>Very_Unreliable posted [p:896349605] in in what wa... [t:76334330]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThanksUglyGod posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Very_Unreliable posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThanksUglyGod posted...</cite> <quote>It's socially acceptable to make fun of Christians because most of the people doing the ridiculing either are or were raised Christian.</quote> I was too; that doesn't make the mainstream sanctification of their ridicule okay, unless that is held for everyone likewise.</quote> It is Women ridicule women Black people ridicule black people Gay people ridicule gay people Jewish people ridicule Jewish people</quote> If you are no longer a Christian... then you're not a Christian. So it then becomes Non-Christians ridicule Christians</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ilovuuu 02/19/18 12:20:38 AM #55:	"I sent my son to a conversion therapy camp, why is everyone mean to me:(" <cite>ilovuuu posted [p:896349626] in in what wa... [t:76334330]...</cite> <quote>"I sent my son to a conversion therapy camp, why is everyone mean to me:("</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
0AbsoluteZero0 02/19/18 12:20:52 AM #56:	Very_Unreliable posted... 0AbsoluteZero0 posted... Very_Unreliable posted... 0AbsoluteZero0 posted... Very_Unreliable posted... 0AbsoluteZero0 posted... They dont have the same ability that they previously had to marginalize and discriminate against anyone whos not a straight conservative Christian. In their minds, that equals persecution. Wow you have an amazing super-power. You can read minds. and you've collected some pretty astonishing data there. Christians feel as if they're persecuted; I believe, because it is perfectly fine, i.e no mainstream social backlash, to completely minimize their belief system and make jokes of them, but the same cannot be done to other religious groups without staggering reprisal and huge backlash. Did you ever stop to think that maybe all the pushback that you call persecution is a result of your kind trying to legislate your morality and worldview on the rest of us? Christians want creationism to be taught as being equal to science with actual evidence, like evolution. They want to ban women from having any say over their pregnancy. They want to be able to freely discriminate against others simply on the basis of their sexual orientation. Thats why people are pushing the fuck back. "Christians want" "your kind" These are generalizations that would be socially intolerable if directed elsewhere. Christianity is one of the most (if not the most) factionalized religions ever; Catholics vote overwhelmingly democrat, and honestly the fact is with each post my point is being made more evident. I'm not Christian btw, not everyone who reasonably defends this point of view is going to be Christian. Whatever you have to tell yourself to feel better, I guess. Youd have to be delusional to claim that a vast majority of Christians wouldnt be in favor of any of the things I mentioned. Despite plenty of vocal opponents, Christians are absolutely catered to more than any other large group in America. This persecution complex is fucking ridiculous. No no no no no no. Address the very factual point I made. You've made a couple of nebulous statements which is very typical of someone who is /wrong/. Catered to how? You qualified the statement with my point, making my point, plenty of vocal opponents; vocal opponents on TV regularly, however vocal opponents of for example Judaism would never be tolerated. Generalizations that you've made repeatedly, would NEVER be tolerated like I said. You have a chip on your shoulder w regards to Christianity and that's why you can't be reasoned with. The reason its considered acceptable to protest and make fun of Christianity in America is because theyre the only organized religion with any appreciable power. Jews and Muslims have no real power here and arent trying to force their archaic beliefs on the rest of us through legislation. In addition, Jews and Muslims often face real, tangible persecution here. You know, the kind that Christians like to pretend they deal with. Thats another obvious reason that shitting on them even more is frowned upon. --- -The Admirable <cite>0AbsoluteZero0 posted [p:896349636] in in what wa... [t:76334330]...</cite> <quote><cite>Very_Unreliable posted...</cite> <quote><cite>0AbsoluteZero0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Very_Unreliable posted...</cite> <quote><cite>0AbsoluteZero0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Very_Unreliable posted...</cite> <quote><cite>0AbsoluteZero0 posted...</cite> <quote>They dont have the same ability that they previously had to marginalize and discriminate against anyone whos not a straight conservative Christian. In their minds, that equals persecution.</quote> Wow you have an amazing super-power. You can read minds. and you've collected some pretty astonishing data there. Christians feel as if they're persecuted; I believe, because it is perfectly fine, i.e no mainstream social backlash, to completely minimize their belief system and make jokes of them, but the same cannot be done to other religious groups without staggering reprisal and huge backlash.</quote> Did you ever stop to think that maybe all the pushback that you call persecution is a result of your kind trying to legislate your morality and worldview on the rest of us? Christians want creationism to be taught as being equal to science with actual evidence, like evolution. They want to ban women from having any say over their pregnancy. They want to be able to freely discriminate against others simply on the basis of their sexual orientation. Thats why people are pushing the fuck back.</quote> "Christians want" "your kind" These are generalizations that would be socially intolerable if directed elsewhere. Christianity is one of the most (if not the most) factionalized religions ever; Catholics vote overwhelmingly democrat, and honestly the fact is with each post my point is being made more evident. I'm not Christian btw, not everyone who reasonably defends this point of view is going to be Christian.</quote> Whatever you have to tell yourself to feel better, I guess. Youd have to be delusional to claim that a vast majority of Christians wouldnt be in favor of any of the things I mentioned. Despite plenty of vocal opponents, Christians are absolutely catered to more than any other large group in America. This persecution complex is fucking ridiculous.</quote> No no no no no no. Address the very factual point I made. You've made a couple of nebulous statements which is very typical of someone who is /wrong/. Catered to how? You qualified the statement with my point, making my point, plenty of vocal opponents; vocal opponents on TV regularly, however vocal opponents of for example Judaism would never be tolerated. Generalizations that you've made repeatedly, would NEVER be tolerated like I said. You have a chip on your shoulder w regards to Christianity and that's why you can't be reasoned with.</quote> The reason its considered acceptable to protest and make fun of Christianity in America is because theyre the only organized religion with any appreciable power. Jews and Muslims have no real power here and arent trying to force their archaic beliefs on the rest of us through legislation. In addition, Jews and Muslims often face real, tangible persecution here. You know, the kind that Christians like to pretend they deal with. Thats another obvious reason that shitting on them even more is frowned upon.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Very_Unreliable 02/19/18 12:26:11 AM #59:	0AbsoluteZero0 posted... The reason its considered acceptable to protest and make fun of Christianity in America is because theyre the only organized religion with any appreciable power. Jews and Muslims have no real power here and arent trying to force their archaic beliefs on the rest of us through legislation. In addition, Jews and Muslims often face real, tangible persecution here. You know, the kind that Christians like to pretend they deal with. Thats another obvious reason that shitting on them even more is frowned upon. Being the majority religion in this country does not come with "appreciable power". This country is a democratic-republic with freedom of worship and a separation of church and state that I think works very well. The government is not persecuting any religion; what however is happening is the fashionable social-griefing of Christians. What /federal/ legislation are powerful Christians forcing through? --- RyuGigas <cite>Very_Unreliable posted [p:896349840] in in what wa... [t:76334330]...</cite> <quote><cite>0AbsoluteZero0 posted...</cite> <quote> The reason its considered acceptable to protest and make fun of Christianity in America is because theyre the only organized religion with any appreciable power. Jews and Muslims have no real power here and arent trying to force their archaic beliefs on the rest of us through legislation. In addition, Jews and Muslims often face real, tangible persecution here. You know, the kind that Christians like to pretend they deal with. Thats another obvious reason that shitting on them even more is frowned upon.</quote> Being the majority religion in this country does not come with "appreciable power". This country is a democratic-republic with freedom of worship and a separation of church and state that I think works very well. The government is not persecuting any religion; what however is happening is the fashionable social-griefing of Christians. What /federal/ legislation are powerful Christians forcing through?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ilovuuu 02/19/18 12:29:03 AM #60:	Very_Unreliable posted... This country is a democratic-republic with freedom of worship and a separation of church and state that I think works very well the evangelicals want a theocracy <cite>ilovuuu posted [p:896349961] in in what wa... [t:76334330]...</cite> <quote><cite>Very_Unreliable posted...</cite> <quote> This country is a democratic-republic with freedom of worship and a separation of church and state that I think works very well</quote> the evangelicals want a theocracy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cerealbox760 02/19/18 12:29:03 AM #61:	1. Muslims will kill you. 2. Its not politically correct to go after Jews. 3. Mormons will laugh with you and make jokes. 4. Religions of other types (in the usa) are not big enough. 5. Christians overreact. Guess why Christians are easy targets for trolls. --- Clevo P775 QHD 120hz / i7 7700k 4.5GHZ / GTX 1070 8GB / DDR4 16GB/ 256gb m.2 SSD /Magni-Modi DAC_AMP combo/ ie800. Laptop on the outside. Desktop on the inside. <cite>cerealbox760 posted [p:896349962] in in what wa... [t:76334330]...</cite> <quote>1. Muslims will kill you. 2. Its not politically correct to go after Jews. 3. Mormons will laugh with you and make jokes. 4. Religions of other types (in the usa) are not big enough. 5. Christians overreact. Guess why Christians are easy targets for trolls.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ilovuuu 02/19/18 12:31:07 AM #62:	cerealbox760 posted... 1. Muslims will kill you. 2. Its not politically correct to go after Jews. 3. Mormons will laugh with you and make jokes. 4. Religions of other types (in the usa) are not big enough. 5. Christians overreact. Guess why Christians are easy targets for trolls. see this is what people mean. you say Christians get made fun of but people generalize Muslims as terrorists <cite>ilovuuu posted [p:896350034] in in what wa... [t:76334330]...</cite> <quote><cite>cerealbox760 posted...</cite> <quote>1. Muslims will kill you. 2. Its not politically correct to go after Jews. 3. Mormons will laugh with you and make jokes. 4. Religions of other types (in the usa) are not big enough. 5. Christians overreact. Guess why Christians are easy targets for trolls.</quote> see this is what people mean. you say Christians get made fun of but people generalize Muslims as terrorists</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Very_Unreliable 02/19/18 12:31:45 AM #63:	Maybe persecution is a strong word; It is entirely acceptable to paint all Christians as members of the westboro baptist church or whatever caricature critics choose. The same cannot be done without severe backlash to any other religious group. These are facts. These /ARE/ the reasons I feel a Christian may believe they're persecuted, moreover dude, if a group more in the minority felt persecuted and you didn't feel they were persecuted you wouldn't berate them for feeling that way, but you will with Christians. This real, evident bigotry. --- RyuGigas <cite>Very_Unreliable posted [p:896350057] in in what wa... [t:76334330]...</cite> <quote>Maybe persecution is a strong word; It is entirely acceptable to paint all Christians as members of the westboro baptist church or whatever caricature critics choose. The same cannot be done without severe backlash to any other religious group. These are facts. These /ARE/ the reasons I feel a Christian may believe they're persecuted, moreover dude, if a group more in the minority felt persecuted and you didn't feel they were persecuted you wouldn't berate them for feeling that way, but you will with Christians. This real, evident bigotry.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ilovuuu 02/19/18 12:32:00 AM #64:	Very_Unreliable posted... Maybe persecution is a strong word; hahahahahaba <cite>ilovuuu posted [p:896350068] in in what wa... [t:76334330]...</cite> <quote><cite>Very_Unreliable posted...</cite> <quote>Maybe persecution is a strong word; </quote> hahahahahaba</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Very_Unreliable 02/19/18 12:33:34 AM #65:	ilovuuu posted... Very_Unreliable posted... This country is a democratic-republic with freedom of worship and a separation of church and state that I think works very well the evangelicals want a theocracy Great, hate them then. Criticize them, don't however, lump all Christians in with a group that is very clearly fringe (and tiny). --- RyuGigas <cite>Very_Unreliable posted [p:896350120] in in what wa... [t:76334330]...</cite> <quote><cite>ilovuuu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Very_Unreliable posted...</cite> <quote> This country is a democratic-republic with freedom of worship and a separation of church and state that I think works very well</quote> the evangelicals want a theocracy</quote> Great, hate them then. Criticize them, don't however, lump all Christians in with a group that is very clearly fringe (and tiny).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ilovuuu 02/19/18 12:34:00 AM #66:	Very_Unreliable posted... ilovuuu posted... Very_Unreliable posted... This country is a democratic-republic with freedom of worship and a separation of church and state that I think works very well the evangelicals want a theocracy Great, hate them then. Criticize them, don't however, lump all Christians in with a group that is very clearly fringe (and tiny). hahahaha. fringe when they make up half the Christians in the country <cite>ilovuuu posted [p:896350133] in in what wa... [t:76334330]...</cite> <quote><cite>Very_Unreliable posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ilovuuu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Very_Unreliable posted...</cite> <quote> This country is a democratic-republic with freedom of worship and a separation of church and state that I think works very well</quote> the evangelicals want a theocracy</quote> Great, hate them then. Criticize them, don't however, lump all Christians in with a group that is very clearly fringe (and tiny).</quote> hahahaha. fringe when they make up half the Christians in the country</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Very_Unreliable 02/19/18 12:34:28 AM #67:	ilovuuu posted... Very_Unreliable posted... Maybe persecution is a strong word; hahahahahaba Are you laughing because I'm willing to compromise? I'm still trying to make a point. --- RyuGigas <cite>Very_Unreliable posted [p:896350150] in in what wa... [t:76334330]...</cite> <quote><cite>ilovuuu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Very_Unreliable posted...</cite> <quote>Maybe persecution is a strong word; </quote> hahahahahaba</quote> Are you laughing because I'm willing to compromise? I'm still trying to make a point.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cerealbox760 02/19/18 12:34:28 AM #68:	ilovuuu posted... cerealbox760 posted... 1. Muslims will kill you. 2. Its not politically correct to go after Jews. 3. Mormons will laugh with you and make jokes. 4. Religions of other types (in the usa) are not big enough. 5. Christians overreact. Guess why Christians are easy targets for trolls. see this is what people mean. you say Christians get made fun of but people generalize Muslims as terrorists Muslims turn a blind eye to terrorism. Christians dont. --- Clevo P775 QHD 120hz / i7 7700k 4.5GHZ / GTX 1070 8GB / DDR4 16GB/ 256gb m.2 SSD /Magni-Modi DAC_AMP combo/ ie800. Laptop on the outside. Desktop on the inside. <cite>cerealbox760 posted [p:896350151] in in what wa... [t:76334330]...</cite> <quote><cite>ilovuuu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>cerealbox760 posted...</cite> <quote>1. Muslims will kill you. 2. Its not politically correct to go after Jews. 3. Mormons will laugh with you and make jokes. 4. Religions of other types (in the usa) are not big enough. 5. Christians overreact. Guess why Christians are easy targets for trolls.</quote> see this is what people mean. you say Christians get made fun of but people generalize Muslims as terrorists</quote> Muslims turn a blind eye to terrorism. Christians dont.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ilovuuu 02/19/18 12:34:41 AM #69:	cerealbox760 posted... ilovuuu posted... cerealbox760 posted... 1. Muslims will kill you. 2. Its not politically correct to go after Jews. 3. Mormons will laugh with you and make jokes. 4. Religions of other types (in the usa) are not big enough. 5. Christians overreact. Guess why Christians are easy targets for trolls. see this is what people mean. you say Christians get made fun of but people generalize Muslims as terrorists Muslims turn a blind eye to terrorism. Christians dont. no Christians do too. <cite>ilovuuu posted [p:896350161] in in what wa... [t:76334330]...</cite> <quote><cite>cerealbox760 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ilovuuu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>cerealbox760 posted...</cite> <quote>1. Muslims will kill you. 2. Its not politically correct to go after Jews. 3. Mormons will laugh with you and make jokes. 4. Religions of other types (in the usa) are not big enough. 5. Christians overreact. Guess why Christians are easy targets for trolls.</quote> see this is what people mean. you say Christians get made fun of but people generalize Muslims as terrorists</quote> Muslims turn a blind eye to terrorism. Christians dont.</quote> no Christians do too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
0AbsoluteZero0 02/19/18 12:34:57 AM #70:	Very_Unreliable posted... 0AbsoluteZero0 posted... The reason its considered acceptable to protest and make fun of Christianity in America is because theyre the only organized religion with any appreciable power. Jews and Muslims have no real power here and arent trying to force their archaic beliefs on the rest of us through legislation. In addition, Jews and Muslims often face real, tangible persecution here. You know, the kind that Christians like to pretend they deal with. Thats another obvious reason that shitting on them even more is frowned upon. Being the majority religion in this country does not come with "appreciable power". This country is a democratic-republic with freedom of worship and a separation of church and state that I think works very well. The government is not persecuting any religion; what however is happening is the fashionable social-griefing of Christians. What /federal/ legislation are powerful Christians forcing through? Surely you arent really this clueless. Christians have been pushing for religious freedom acts at both the state and federal levels. Their effect is to allow Christians to freely discriminate against gays and other groups they dislike, all under the guise of religious freedom. Heres a little primer for you in case you really are that uninformed: https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/101250064 --- -The Admirable <cite>0AbsoluteZero0 posted [p:896350181] in in what wa... [t:76334330]...</cite> <quote><cite>Very_Unreliable posted...</cite> <quote><cite>0AbsoluteZero0 posted...</cite> <quote> The reason its considered acceptable to protest and make fun of Christianity in America is because theyre the only organized religion with any appreciable power. Jews and Muslims have no real power here and arent trying to force their archaic beliefs on the rest of us through legislation. In addition, Jews and Muslims often face real, tangible persecution here. You know, the kind that Christians like to pretend they deal with. Thats another obvious reason that shitting on them even more is frowned upon.</quote> Being the majority religion in this country does not come with "appreciable power". This country is a democratic-republic with freedom of worship and a separation of church and state that I think works very well. The government is not persecuting any religion; what however is happening is the fashionable social-griefing of Christians. What /federal/ legislation are powerful Christians forcing through?</quote> Surely you arent really this clueless. Christians have been pushing for religious freedom acts at both the state and federal levels. Their effect is to allow Christians to freely discriminate against gays and other groups they dislike, all under the guise of religious freedom. Heres a little primer for you in case you really are that uninformed: https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/101250064</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ilovuuu 02/19/18 12:36:14 AM #71:	hey unholymudcrab u reading this? <cite>ilovuuu posted [p:896350232] in in what wa... [t:76334330]...</cite> <quote>hey unholymudcrab u reading this?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheCyborgNinja 02/19/18 12:38:42 AM #72:	"Those types" of Christians in America are persecuted in the same ways SJWs crying for safe spaces are... They just want to be agreed with and nothing else. Anything against their narrative is taken as a personal attack. --- "message parlor" ? do you mean the post office ? - SlayerX888 <cite>TheCyborgNinja posted [p:896350337] in in what wa... [t:76334330]...</cite> <quote>"Those types" of Christians in America are persecuted in the same ways SJWs crying for safe spaces are... They just want to be agreed with and nothing else. Anything against their narrative is taken as a personal attack.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AmonAmarth 02/19/18 12:38:43 AM #73:	southcoast09 posted... Its basically open season to discriminate against us. You can openly mock us (the sites moderators will allow it here), while the same level of mockery about Islam or Judaism will get you suspended. Instantly. So, theres really some inbalanced rulings made. The Supreme Court hearing was huge, though. That ended one of the main forms of systematic inequality. If youre not going to force ONE religion to violate its beliefs, then youre not going to force ANY religion to violate its beliefs even if that contradicts the progressives (who are no longer in power). +1 --- i7-4790@ 3.6GHZ \| GA-Z97-HD3 \| ASUS GTX 960 2GB \| Samsung 850 EVO 250GB \| 1TB HDD \| CX750M \| 12GB DDR3 <cite>AmonAmarth posted [p:896350339] in in what wa... [t:76334330]...</cite> <quote><cite>southcoast09 posted...</cite> <quote>Its basically open season to discriminate against us. You can openly mock us (the sites moderators will allow it here), while the same level of mockery about Islam or Judaism will get you suspended. Instantly. So, theres really some inbalanced rulings made. The Supreme Court hearing was huge, though. That ended one of the main forms of systematic inequality. If youre not going to force ONE religion to violate its beliefs, then youre not going to force ANY religion to violate its beliefs even if that contradicts the progressives (who are no longer in power).</quote> +1</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Very_Unreliable 02/19/18 12:39:14 AM #74:	ilovuuu posted... Very_Unreliable posted... ilovuuu posted... Very_Unreliable posted... This country is a democratic-republic with freedom of worship and a separation of church and state that I think works very well the evangelicals want a theocracy Great, hate them then. Criticize them, don't however, lump all Christians in with a group that is very clearly fringe (and tiny). hahahaha. fringe when they make up half the Christians in the country No man; You're talking about all evangelicals? I thought you meant fundamentalists. There needs to be a distinction. Evangelical movement is largely benign and also part of the reason we ended slavery. Fundamentalists, are the new guys who might actually believe in sending homosexuals to camps, and yes that's fringe. --- RyuGigas <cite>Very_Unreliable posted [p:896350362] in in what wa... [t:76334330]...</cite> <quote><cite>ilovuuu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Very_Unreliable posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ilovuuu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Very_Unreliable posted...</cite> <quote> This country is a democratic-republic with freedom of worship and a separation of church and state that I think works very well</quote> the evangelicals want a theocracy</quote> Great, hate them then. Criticize them, don't however, lump all Christians in with a group that is very clearly fringe (and tiny).</quote> hahahaha. fringe when they make up half the Christians in the country</quote> No man; You're talking about all evangelicals? I thought you meant fundamentalists. There needs to be a distinction. Evangelical movement is largely benign and also part of the reason we ended slavery. Fundamentalists, are the new guys who might actually believe in sending homosexuals to camps, and yes that's fringe.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MutantJohn 02/19/18 12:40:16 AM #76:	Christians have lived in the most advanced societies and been persecuted the least. They're kind of the winners of history so hearing then complain seems silly. --- "Oh, my mother; oh, my friends, ask the angels, will I ever see heaven again?" - Laura Marling <cite>MutantJohn posted [p:896350403] in in what wa... [t:76334330]...</cite> <quote>Christians have lived in the most advanced societies and been persecuted the least. They're kind of the winners of history so hearing then complain seems silly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prestoff 02/19/18 12:40:42 AM #77:	ilovuuu posted... you say Christians get made fun of but people generalize Muslims as terrorists It's true that there are people who generalize Muslims as terrorist, but it's a fact that in the middle east, speaking ill of the Muslim religion or the prophet Muhammad can get you killed. You can even get killed for apostacy (leaving the religion). Honestly though, you're also generalizing Christians throughout this whole topic as well. You're not any better. Very_Unreliable posted... Maybe persecution is a strong word; Finally you're getting something right. Very_Unreliable posted... It is entirely acceptable to paint all Christians as members of the westboro baptist church or whatever caricature critics choose. The same cannot be done without severe backlash to any other religious group. These are facts. These /ARE/ the reasons I feel a Christian may believe they're persecuted, moreover dude, if a group more in the minority felt persecuted and you didn't feel they were persecuted you wouldn't berate them for feeling that way, but you will with Christians. I agree that grouping Christians as radicalists is very dishonest, but I'm surprise you can't see why people make fun of the Christian religion more than Islam or Judaism, because the majority of people are also Christians or used to be. They would know more about the Christian religion than they would about Judaism or Islam. When you know more about something, it's a lot easier to make fun of it than it is to make fun of something you don't have a full knowledge or comprehend of. --- It's what all true warriors strive for! <cite>Prestoff posted [p:896350421] in in what wa... [t:76334330]...</cite> <quote><cite>ilovuuu posted...</cite> <quote> you say Christians get made fun of but people generalize Muslims as terrorists</quote> It's true that there are people who generalize Muslims as terrorist, but it's a fact that in the middle east, speaking ill of the Muslim religion or the prophet Muhammad can get you killed. You can even get killed for apostacy (leaving the religion). Honestly though, you're also generalizing Christians throughout this whole topic as well. You're not any better. <cite>Very_Unreliable posted...</cite> <quote>Maybe persecution is a strong word; </quote> Finally you're getting something right. <cite>Very_Unreliable posted...</cite> <quote>It is entirely acceptable to paint all Christians as members of the westboro baptist church or whatever caricature critics choose. The same cannot be done without severe backlash to any other religious group. These are facts. These /ARE/ the reasons I feel a Christian may believe they're persecuted, moreover dude, if a group more in the minority felt persecuted and you didn't feel they were persecuted you wouldn't berate them for feeling that way, but you will with Christians. </quote> I agree that grouping Christians as radicalists is very dishonest, but I'm surprise you can't see why people make fun of the Christian religion more than Islam or Judaism, because the majority of people are also Christians or used to be. They would know more about the Christian religion than they would about Judaism or Islam. When you know more about something, it's a lot easier to make fun of it than it is to make fun of something you don't have a full knowledge or comprehend of.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Very_Unreliable 02/19/18 12:45:39 AM #78:	0AbsoluteZero0 posted... Very_Unreliable posted... 0AbsoluteZero0 posted... The reason its considered acceptable to protest and make fun of Christianity in America is because theyre the only organized religion with any appreciable power. Jews and Muslims have no real power here and arent trying to force their archaic beliefs on the rest of us through legislation. In addition, Jews and Muslims often face real, tangible persecution here. You know, the kind that Christians like to pretend they deal with. Thats another obvious reason that shitting on them even more is frowned upon. Being the majority religion in this country does not come with "appreciable power". This country is a democratic-republic with freedom of worship and a separation of church and state that I think works very well. The government is not persecuting any religion; what however is happening is the fashionable social-griefing of Christians. What /federal/ legislation are powerful Christians forcing through? Surely you arent really this clueless. Christians have been pushing for religious freedom acts at both the state and federal levels. Their effect is to allow Christians to freely discriminate against gays and other groups they dislike, all under the guise of religious freedom. Heres a little primer for you in case you really are that uninformed: https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/101250064 "Freely discriminate against gays" You should probably clarify there... If I'm gay, and I wanna be married, and I go to a Christian bakery for my cake, and they don't want to make it, I go to a different bakery. More than likely with business practices like that the Christian bakery will go under, that's how capitalism works. I believe in freedom of association. That Christian may very well believe that participating in that exchange might send them to hell, which is in my opinion silly and wrong, but he or she should have the right to practice that part of their religion, you don't have a right to their labor, they're not aggressing on anyone. Now if that same person assaults someone for being gay, then they go to jail... What's so difficult? --- RyuGigas <cite>Very_Unreliable posted [p:896350621] in in what wa... [t:76334330]...</cite> <quote><cite>0AbsoluteZero0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Very_Unreliable posted...</cite> <quote><cite>0AbsoluteZero0 posted...</cite> <quote> The reason its considered acceptable to protest and make fun of Christianity in America is because theyre the only organized religion with any appreciable power. Jews and Muslims have no real power here and arent trying to force their archaic beliefs on the rest of us through legislation. In addition, Jews and Muslims often face real, tangible persecution here. You know, the kind that Christians like to pretend they deal with. Thats another obvious reason that shitting on them even more is frowned upon.</quote> Being the majority religion in this country does not come with "appreciable power". This country is a democratic-republic with freedom of worship and a separation of church and state that I think works very well. The government is not persecuting any religion; what however is happening is the fashionable social-griefing of Christians. What /federal/ legislation are powerful Christians forcing through?</quote> Surely you arent really this clueless. Christians have been pushing for religious freedom acts at both the state and federal levels. Their effect is to allow Christians to freely discriminate against gays and other groups they dislike, all under the guise of religious freedom. Heres a little primer for you in case you really are that uninformed: https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/101250064</quote> "Freely discriminate against gays" You should probably clarify there... If I'm gay, and I wanna be married, and I go to a Christian bakery for my cake, and they don't want to make it, I go to a different bakery. More than likely with business practices like that the Christian bakery will go under, that's how capitalism works. I believe in freedom of association. That Christian may very well believe that participating in that exchange might send them to hell, which is in my opinion silly and wrong, but he or she should have the right to practice that part of their religion, you don't have a right to their labor, they're not aggressing on anyone. Now if that same person assaults someone for being gay, then they go to jail... What's so difficult?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ilovuuu 02/19/18 12:47:11 AM #79:	Very_Unreliable posted... If I'm gay, and I wanna be married, and I go to a Christian bakery for my cake, and they don't want to make it, I go to a different bakery, and more than likely with business practices like that the Christian bakery will go under, that's how capitalism works. But I believe in freedom of association. That Christian may very well believe that participating in that exchange might send them to hell, which is in my opinion silly and wrong, but he or she should have the right to practice that part of their religion, you don't have a right to their labor, they're not aggressing on anyone. Now if that same person assaults someone for being gay, then they go to jail... What's so difficult? joke opinion. <cite>ilovuuu posted [p:896350681] in in what wa... [t:76334330]...</cite> <quote><cite>Very_Unreliable posted...</cite> <quote>If I'm gay, and I wanna be married, and I go to a Christian bakery for my cake, and they don't want to make it, I go to a different bakery, and more than likely with business practices like that the Christian bakery will go under, that's how capitalism works. But I believe in freedom of association. That Christian may very well believe that participating in that exchange might send them to hell, which is in my opinion silly and wrong, but he or she should have the right to practice that part of their religion, you don't have a right to their labor, they're not aggressing on anyone. Now if that same person assaults someone for being gay, then they go to jail... What's so difficult? </quote> joke opinion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Very_Unreliable 02/19/18 12:48:26 AM #80:	ilovuuu posted... Very_Unreliable posted... If I'm gay, and I wanna be married, and I go to a Christian bakery for my cake, and they don't want to make it, I go to a different bakery, and more than likely with business practices like that the Christian bakery will go under, that's how capitalism works. But I believe in freedom of association. That Christian may very well believe that participating in that exchange might send them to hell, which is in my opinion silly and wrong, but he or she should have the right to practice that part of their religion, you don't have a right to their labor, they're not aggressing on anyone. Now if that same person assaults someone for being gay, then they go to jail... What's so difficult? joke opinion. Joke human. --- RyuGigas <cite>Very_Unreliable posted [p:896350741] in in what wa... [t:76334330]...</cite> <quote><cite>ilovuuu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Very_Unreliable posted...</cite> <quote>If I'm gay, and I wanna be married, and I go to a Christian bakery for my cake, and they don't want to make it, I go to a different bakery, and more than likely with business practices like that the Christian bakery will go under, that's how capitalism works. But I believe in freedom of association. That Christian may very well believe that participating in that exchange might send them to hell, which is in my opinion silly and wrong, but he or she should have the right to practice that part of their religion, you don't have a right to their labor, they're not aggressing on anyone. Now if that same person assaults someone for being gay, then they go to jail... What's so difficult? </quote> joke opinion.</quote> Joke human.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MutantJohn 02/19/18 12:50:05 AM #81:	The point about the bakery was that no business should be able to discriminate against traits that people are born with --- "Oh, my mother; oh, my friends, ask the angels, will I ever see heaven again?" - Laura Marling <cite>MutantJohn posted [p:896350808] in in what wa... [t:76334330]...</cite> <quote>The point about the bakery was that no business should be able to discriminate against traits that people are born with</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Very_Unreliable 02/19/18 12:54:34 AM #82:	MutantJohn posted... The point about the bakery was that no business should be able to discriminate against traits that people are born with I mean that's fine, and if we're going with the lady gaga philosophy on whether or not people are born that way; a gay man asking for a cake at a bakery should be fine as long as that cake isn't a cake that breaks what they believe are the tenets of their religion. That bakery would be fine in not making a cake that says "666 satan rulz" either by that same token. It's their religious freedom to own that business without being forced to break the tenets of their religion, and it's easily compatible. And it shouldn't even be an issue, it's only for the purpose of antagonizing that bakery owner, since you can just truck over to Wegmans. --- RyuGigas <cite>Very_Unreliable posted [p:896350990] in in what wa... [t:76334330]...</cite> <quote><cite>MutantJohn posted...</cite> <quote>The point about the bakery was that no business should be able to discriminate against traits that people are born with</quote> I mean that's fine, and if we're going with the lady gaga philosophy on whether or not people are born that way; a gay man asking for a cake at a bakery should be fine as long as that cake isn't a cake that breaks what they believe are the tenets of their religion. That bakery would be fine in not making a cake that says "666 satan rulz" either by that same token. It's their religious freedom to own that business without being forced to break the tenets of their religion, and it's easily compatible. And it shouldn't even be an issue, it's only for the purpose of antagonizing that bakery owner, since you can just truck over to Wegmans.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
0AbsoluteZero0 02/19/18 12:56:57 AM #83:	MutantJohn posted... The point about the bakery was that no business should be able to discriminate against traits that people are born with Youre right, but theres no point in arguing with a troll. Despite his claims of not being Christian, its pretty clear that hes nothing more than a shill whos saying that to create an illusion of impartiality. --- -The Admirable <cite>0AbsoluteZero0 posted [p:896351092] in in what wa... [t:76334330]...</cite> <quote><cite>MutantJohn posted...</cite> <quote>The point about the bakery was that no business should be able to discriminate against traits that people are born with</quote> Youre right, but theres no point in arguing with a troll. Despite his claims of not being Christian, its pretty clear that hes nothing more than a shill whos saying that to create an illusion of impartiality.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Very_Unreliable 02/19/18 12:58:49 AM #84:	0AbsoluteZero0 posted... MutantJohn posted... The point about the bakery was that no business should be able to discriminate against traits that people are born with Theres no point in arguing with a troll. Despite his claims of not being Christian, its pretty clear that hes nothing more than a shill whos saying that to create an illusion of impartiality. Dude you're just an angry kid. Whatever, poison the well all you want. I'm not Christian, I was raised moderately Christian, this is the truth, I mean it just fits your stupid childish lazy narrative a lot easier if I were your image of a dumb Christian southerner. --- RyuGigas <cite>Very_Unreliable posted [p:896351157] in in what wa... [t:76334330]...</cite> <quote><cite>0AbsoluteZero0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MutantJohn posted...</cite> <quote>The point about the bakery was that no business should be able to discriminate against traits that people are born with</quote> Theres no point in arguing with a troll. Despite his claims of not being Christian, its pretty clear that hes nothing more than a shill whos saying that to create an illusion of impartiality.</quote> Dude you're just an angry kid. Whatever, poison the well all you want. I'm not Christian, I was raised moderately Christian, this is the truth, I mean it just fits your stupid childish lazy narrative a lot easier if I were your image of a dumb Christian southerner.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
0AbsoluteZero0 02/19/18 1:00:58 AM #85:	Very_Unreliable posted... 0AbsoluteZero0 posted... MutantJohn posted... The point about the bakery was that no business should be able to discriminate against traits that people are born with Theres no point in arguing with a troll. Despite his claims of not being Christian, its pretty clear that hes nothing more than a shill whos saying that to create an illusion of impartiality. Dude you're just an angry kid. Whatever, poison the well all you want. I'm not Christian, I was raised moderately Christian, this is the truth, I mean it just fits your stupid childish lazy narrative a lot easier if I were your image of a dumb Christian southerner. At the very least being an ignorant southern Christian would give you an excuse for the shit youre spewing. Maybe you are just naturally that way, but thats even sadder tbh. --- -The Admirable <cite>0AbsoluteZero0 posted [p:896351249] in in what wa... [t:76334330]...</cite> <quote><cite>Very_Unreliable posted...</cite> <quote><cite>0AbsoluteZero0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MutantJohn posted...</cite> <quote>The point about the bakery was that no business should be able to discriminate against traits that people are born with</quote> Theres no point in arguing with a troll. Despite his claims of not being Christian, its pretty clear that hes nothing more than a shill whos saying that to create an illusion of impartiality.</quote> Dude you're just an angry kid. Whatever, poison the well all you want. I'm not Christian, I was raised moderately Christian, this is the truth, I mean it just fits your stupid childish lazy narrative a lot easier if I were your image of a dumb Christian southerner.</quote> At the very least being an ignorant southern Christian would give you an excuse for the shit youre spewing. Maybe you are just naturally that way, but thats even sadder tbh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Very_Unreliable 02/19/18 1:02:36 AM #86:	0AbsoluteZero0 posted... Very_Unreliable posted... 0AbsoluteZero0 posted... MutantJohn posted... The point about the bakery was that no business should be able to discriminate against traits that people are born with Theres no point in arguing with a troll. Despite his claims of not being Christian, its pretty clear that hes nothing more than a shill whos saying that to create an illusion of impartiality. Dude you're just an angry kid. Whatever, poison the well all you want. I'm not Christian, I was raised moderately Christian, this is the truth, I mean it just fits your stupid childish lazy narrative a lot easier if I were your image of a dumb Christian southerner. At the very least it would give you an excuse for the shit youre spewing. Maybe you are just naturally that way, but thats even sadder tbh. I didn't say anything to attack you until you started doing that, you're the one who's clearly angry, I said nothing hateful at all. Keep on living that way; your whole opinion is boring and played. you're boring. --- RyuGigas <cite>Very_Unreliable posted [p:896351312] in in what wa... [t:76334330]...</cite> <quote><cite>0AbsoluteZero0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Very_Unreliable posted...</cite> <quote><cite>0AbsoluteZero0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MutantJohn posted...</cite> <quote>The point about the bakery was that no business should be able to discriminate against traits that people are born with</quote> Theres no point in arguing with a troll. Despite his claims of not being Christian, its pretty clear that hes nothing more than a shill whos saying that to create an illusion of impartiality.</quote> Dude you're just an angry kid. Whatever, poison the well all you want. I'm not Christian, I was raised moderately Christian, this is the truth, I mean it just fits your stupid childish lazy narrative a lot easier if I were your image of a dumb Christian southerner.</quote> At the very least it would give you an excuse for the shit youre spewing. Maybe you are just naturally that way, but thats even sadder tbh.</quote> I didn't say anything to attack you until you started doing that, you're the one who's clearly angry, I said nothing hateful at all. Keep on living that way; your whole opinion is boring and played. you're boring.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MutantJohn 02/19/18 1:04:00 AM #87:	There's a difference between wanting a Satan cake and attempting to buy a cake while being gay --- "Oh, my mother; oh, my friends, ask the angels, will I ever see heaven again?" - Laura Marling <cite>MutantJohn posted [p:896351367] in in what wa... [t:76334330]...</cite> <quote>There's a difference between wanting a Satan cake and attempting to buy a cake while being gay</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Very_Unreliable 02/19/18 1:06:37 AM #88:	MutantJohn posted... There's a difference between wanting a Satan cake and attempting to buy a cake while being gay Yeah there is. A christian won't make a satan cake, but will make a cake for a homosexual no problem. A Christian won't make, however a cake for a homosexual that says "Tom & Tim's super gay wedding 2018" or a cake for him that says "satan iz #1". --- RyuGigas <cite>Very_Unreliable posted [p:896351473] in in what wa... [t:76334330]...</cite> <quote><cite>MutantJohn posted...</cite> <quote>There's a difference between wanting a Satan cake and attempting to buy a cake while being gay</quote> Yeah there is. A christian won't make a satan cake, but will make a cake for a homosexual no problem. A Christian won't make, however a cake for a homosexual that says "Tom & Tim's super gay wedding 2018" or a cake for him that says "satan iz #1".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
0AbsoluteZero0 02/19/18 1:08:07 AM #89:	Very_Unreliable posted... 0AbsoluteZero0 posted... Very_Unreliable posted... 0AbsoluteZero0 posted... MutantJohn posted... The point about the bakery was that no business should be able to discriminate against traits that people are born with Theres no point in arguing with a troll. Despite his claims of not being Christian, its pretty clear that hes nothing more than a shill whos saying that to create an illusion of impartiality. Dude you're just an angry kid. Whatever, poison the well all you want. I'm not Christian, I was raised moderately Christian, this is the truth, I mean it just fits your stupid childish lazy narrative a lot easier if I were your image of a dumb Christian southerner. At the very least it would give you an excuse for the shit youre spewing. Maybe you are just naturally that way, but thats even sadder tbh. I didn't say anything to attack you until you started doing that, you're the one who's clearly angry, I said nothing hateful at all Except you did in the very last post you made before this one. Im not arguing any more though - its clear that facts and reason have very little bearing on your positions, making this an exercise in futility. --- -The Admirable <cite>0AbsoluteZero0 posted [p:896351532] in in what wa... [t:76334330]...</cite> <quote><cite>Very_Unreliable posted...</cite> <quote><cite>0AbsoluteZero0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Very_Unreliable posted...</cite> <quote><cite>0AbsoluteZero0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MutantJohn posted...</cite> <quote>The point about the bakery was that no business should be able to discriminate against traits that people are born with</quote> Theres no point in arguing with a troll. Despite his claims of not being Christian, its pretty clear that hes nothing more than a shill whos saying that to create an illusion of impartiality.</quote> Dude you're just an angry kid. Whatever, poison the well all you want. I'm not Christian, I was raised moderately Christian, this is the truth, I mean it just fits your stupid childish lazy narrative a lot easier if I were your image of a dumb Christian southerner.</quote> At the very least it would give you an excuse for the shit youre spewing. Maybe you are just naturally that way, but thats even sadder tbh.</quote> I didn't say anything to attack you until you started doing that, you're the one who's clearly angry, I said nothing hateful at all</quote> Except you did in the very last post you made before this one. Im not arguing any more though - its clear that facts and reason have very little bearing on your positions, making this an exercise in futility.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 02/19/18 1:08:29 AM #90:	Not being catered to as much anymore, I suppose. <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:896351541] in in what wa... [t:76334330]...</cite> <quote>Not being catered to as much anymore, I suppose.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Very_Unreliable 02/19/18 1:08:50 AM #91:	0AbsoluteZero0 posted... Very_Unreliable posted... 0AbsoluteZero0 posted... Very_Unreliable posted... 0AbsoluteZero0 posted... MutantJohn posted... The point about the bakery was that no business should be able to discriminate against traits that people are born with Theres no point in arguing with a troll. Despite his claims of not being Christian, its pretty clear that hes nothing more than a shill whos saying that to create an illusion of impartiality. Dude you're just an angry kid. Whatever, poison the well all you want. I'm not Christian, I was raised moderately Christian, this is the truth, I mean it just fits your stupid childish lazy narrative a lot easier if I were your image of a dumb Christian southerner. At the very least it would give you an excuse for the shit youre spewing. Maybe you are just naturally that way, but thats even sadder tbh. I didn't say anything to attack you until you started doing that, you're the one who's clearly angry, I said nothing hateful at all Except you did in the very last post you made before this one. Im not arguing any more though - its clear that facts and reason have very little bearing on your positions, making this an exercise in futility. You've been attacking me the entire time lil boi. --- RyuGigas <cite>Very_Unreliable posted [p:896351557] in in what wa... [t:76334330]...</cite> <quote><cite>0AbsoluteZero0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Very_Unreliable posted...</cite> <quote><cite>0AbsoluteZero0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Very_Unreliable posted...</cite> <quote><cite>0AbsoluteZero0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MutantJohn posted...</cite> <quote>The point about the bakery was that no business should be able to discriminate against traits that people are born with</quote> Theres no point in arguing with a troll. Despite his claims of not being Christian, its pretty clear that hes nothing more than a shill whos saying that to create an illusion of impartiality.</quote> Dude you're just an angry kid. Whatever, poison the well all you want. I'm not Christian, I was raised moderately Christian, this is the truth, I mean it just fits your stupid childish lazy narrative a lot easier if I were your image of a dumb Christian southerner.</quote> At the very least it would give you an excuse for the shit youre spewing. Maybe you are just naturally that way, but thats even sadder tbh.</quote> I didn't say anything to attack you until you started doing that, you're the one who's clearly angry, I said nothing hateful at all</quote> Except you did in the very last post you made before this one. Im not arguing any more though - its clear that facts and reason have very little bearing on your positions, making this an exercise in futility.</quote> You've been attacking me the entire time lil boi.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Very_Unreliable 02/19/18 1:10:15 AM #92:	0AbsoluteZero0 posted... MutantJohn posted... The point about the bakery was that no business should be able to discriminate against traits that people are born with Youre right, but theres no point in arguing with a troll. Despite his claims of not being Christian, its pretty clear that hes nothing more than a shill whos saying that to create an illusion of impartiality. ^ hey look an unnecessary attack on someone who disagrees with you. --- RyuGigas <cite>Very_Unreliable posted [p:896351612] in in what wa... [t:76334330]...</cite> <quote><cite>0AbsoluteZero0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MutantJohn posted...</cite> <quote>The point about the bakery was that no business should be able to discriminate against traits that people are born with</quote> Youre right, but theres no point in arguing with a troll. Despite his claims of not being Christian, its pretty clear that hes nothing more than a shill whos saying that to create an illusion of impartiality.</quote> ^ hey look an unnecessary attack on someone who disagrees with you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 02/19/18 1:14:30 AM #93:	I've made my position on #cakegate pretty clear, but I don't think a business should have a right to refuse service to someone for reasons unrelated to the service itself, with "exception" (though it's arguable that it even is an exception) given to issues related to services which require some form of artistic expression from the provider. <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:896351801] in in what wa... [t:76334330]...</cite> <quote>I've made my position on #cakegate pretty clear, but I don't think a business should have a right to refuse service to someone for reasons unrelated to the service itself, with "exception" (though it's arguable that it even is an exception) given to issues related to services which require some form of artistic expression from the provider.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Very_Unreliable 02/19/18 1:16:23 AM #94:	Dragonblade01 posted... I've made my position on #cakegate pretty clear, but I don't think a business should have a right to refuse service to someone for reasons unrelated to the service itself, with "exception" (though it's arguable that it even is an exception) given to issues related to services which require some form of artistic expression from the provider. That's pretty spot on. --- RyuGigas <cite>Very_Unreliable posted [p:896351868] in in what wa... [t:76334330]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>I've made my position on #cakegate pretty clear, but I don't think a business should have a right to refuse service to someone for reasons unrelated to the service itself, with "exception" (though it's arguable that it even is an exception) given to issues related to services which require some form of artistic expression from the provider.</quote> That's pretty spot on.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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