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ModLogic
02/18/18 4:26:27 AM
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banning drugs dont work! people who want to do drugs will still do drugs. drugs dont kill people, misuse kills people! educate kids on safe drug use! sell pure safe heroine at every school, ensure our precious kids have access to quality products!
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Kaname_Madoka
02/18/18 4:27:55 AM
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ModLogic posted...
banning drugs dont work! people who want to do drugs will still do drugs. drugs dont kill people, misuse kills people! educate kids on safe drug use!

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Foppe
02/18/18 4:29:46 AM
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We should ban humans, they do all the illegal stuff.
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Sephiroth1288
02/18/18 4:31:10 AM
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ModLogic posted...
banning drugs dont work! people who want to do drugs will still do drugs. drugs dont kill people, misuse kills people!

Correct.

Are you under the impression that the war on drugs has been a smashing success or something
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ModLogic
02/18/18 4:35:35 AM
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Sephiroth1288
02/18/18 4:36:19 AM
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AssultTank posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
ModLogic posted...
banning drugs dont work! people who want to do drugs will still do drugs. drugs dont kill people, misuse kills people!

Correct.

Are you under the impression that the war on drugs has been a smashing success or something

Hasn't research shown that the war on drugs not only made drug use more harmful to the average user but has given rise to the whole prison epidemic in America?

Yes.

And the idea that a war on guns would work differently is dumbfounding, especially when the people who have that opinion also usually malign the war on drugs.
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ModLogic
02/18/18 4:41:53 AM
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how many people are on the run because they killed someone? if they legalize murder these poor souls wouldn't have to live constantly looking over their shoulders.
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Sephiroth1288
02/18/18 4:44:13 AM
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ModLogic posted...
how many people are on the run because they killed someone? if they legalize murder these poor souls wouldn't have to live constantly looking over their shoulders.

There is no victim when I own a gun.

There is no victim when I shoot up heroin (except me).

There is a victim when I murder someone.

See the difference?
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ModLogic
02/18/18 4:45:59 AM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...

There is no victim when I shoot up heroin (except me).

lmfao the victims when it comes to druggies are the people unfortunate enough to be associated with the scum
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Sephiroth1288
02/18/18 4:47:13 AM
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ModLogic posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...

There is no victim when I shoot up heroin (except me).

lmfao the victims when it comes to druggies are the people unfortunate enough to be associated with the scum

Like Assulttank said, no. Those sorts of "victims" aren't deprived of any agency.
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ModLogic
02/18/18 4:48:24 AM
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AssultTank posted...
Difference is that drug use doesn't directly harm other people. Yes, it affects those around you but it does not deprive others of their agency. Murder however...

perhaps the deceased wanted someone to kill them. still illegal according to the law like drug use.
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Rika_Furude
02/18/18 4:48:26 AM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
ModLogic posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...

There is no victim when I shoot up heroin (except me).

lmfao the victims when it comes to druggies are the people unfortunate enough to be associated with the scum

Like Assulttank said, no. Those sorts of "victims" aren't deprived of any agency.

yeah imagine thinking the mother, who has to live with the shame and horror of her child being a worthless drug abuser, is not a victim
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Sephiroth1288
02/18/18 4:50:59 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
yeah imagine thinking the mother, who has to live with the shame and horror of her child being a worthless drug abuser, is not a victim

Imagine thinking the war on drugs had done anything to prevent such a thing.
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Foppe
02/18/18 4:53:18 AM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
There is no victim when I shoot up heroin (except me).

Except the slaves that are forced to collect the Papaver somniferum, the ones that are being forced to smuggle it into the country and the ones being killed for it to decide who gets your money in the end.
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ModLogic
02/18/18 4:53:39 AM
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im not shifting anything. im just not saying it out right in case you lot go on a power trip.
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ModLogic
02/18/18 4:56:48 AM
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i didnt bring that in. i just said perhaps the deceased wanted to be killed.

you gave it thr specific label.
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Gamer99z
02/18/18 4:58:36 AM
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AssultTank posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
ModLogic posted...
banning drugs dont work! people who want to do drugs will still do drugs. drugs dont kill people, misuse kills people!

Correct.

Are you under the impression that the war on drugs has been a smashing success or something

Hasn't research shown that the war on drugs not only made drug use more harmful to the average user but has given rise to the whole prison epidemic in America?

If only they'd made it the war on mental illness
The war on poor education
The war on treating minor offenders as subhuman and ruining their life

Or literally anything more productive. The war on microwave burritos not evenly cooking would've been a better success.
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Rika_Furude
02/18/18 5:08:16 AM
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
yeah imagine thinking the mother, who has to live with the shame and horror of her child being a worthless drug abuser, is not a victim

Imagine thinking the war on drugs had done anything to prevent such a thing.

cause if drugs were easier to get, nobody would ever do drugs...
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Sephiroth1288
02/18/18 5:08:55 AM
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Foppe posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
There is no victim when I shoot up heroin (except me).

Except the slaves that are forced to collect the Papaver somniferum, the ones that are being forced to smuggle it into the country and the ones being killed for it to decide who gets your money in the end.

Those appear to be victims of the war on drugs, not victims of drugs themselves.
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Sephiroth1288
02/18/18 5:09:33 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
yeah imagine thinking the mother, who has to live with the shame and horror of her child being a worthless drug abuser, is not a victim

Imagine thinking the war on drugs had done anything to prevent such a thing.

cause if drugs were easier to get, nobody would ever do drugs...

Do you believe alcoholism went down during prohibition?
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Kaname_Madoka
02/18/18 5:11:47 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
yeah imagine thinking the mother, who has to live with the shame and horror of her child being a worthless drug abuser, is not a victim

Imagine thinking the war on drugs had done anything to prevent such a thing.

cause if drugs were easier to get, nobody would ever do drugs...

People would still do drugs.

People wouldn't get killed over their drugs.
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ToonLinkWithGun
02/18/18 5:12:08 AM
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What about unborn children of drug addicts. They are directly affected. Also I've seen countless stories of tweaked out parents killing or forgetting about their kids causing their death.

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Sephiroth1288
02/18/18 5:15:36 AM
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ToonLinkWithGun posted...
What about unborn children of drug addicts. They are directly affected. Also I've seen countless stories of tweaked out parents killing or forgetting about their kids causing their death.

So the war on drugs isn't stopping it then...
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iClockwork
02/18/18 5:30:39 AM
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Kaname_Madoka posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
yeah imagine thinking the mother, who has to live with the shame and horror of her child being a worthless drug abuser, is not a victim

Imagine thinking the war on drugs had done anything to prevent such a thing.

cause if drugs were easier to get, nobody would ever do drugs...

People would still do drugs.

People wouldn't get killed over their drugs.


http://kdvr.com/2016/05/24/prosecutors-colorado-sees-increase-in-murders-motivated-by-marijuana/

https://www.denverpost.com/2017/07/11/colorado-sees-big-increase-crime-10-percent-higher-murder-rate/

uh oh...
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