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voldothegr8 02/18/18 12:09:35 PM #102:	People sometimes do rash things when struck with grief. --- Oda break tracker 2018- 1 (1) \| THE Ohio State: 11-2 \| Oakland Raiders: 6-10 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:896311759] in At rally, ... [t:76331358]...</cite> <quote>People sometimes do rash things when struck with grief.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cj_WlLL_VVlN 02/18/18 12:12:25 PM #103:	MutantJohn posted... Why do people truly believe they have the right to deadly force? I can't own chemical weapons but you don't see me crying about it "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008), is a landmark case in which the Supreme Court of the United States held, in a 54 decision, that the Second Amendment protects an individual's right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home, and that Washington, D.C.'s handgun ban and requirement that lawfully-owned rifles and shotguns be kept "unloaded and disassembled or bound by a trigger lock" violated this guarantee. Presser v. Illinois, 116 U.S. 252 (1886) - This second post-Civil War era case related to the meaning of the Second Amendment rights relating to militias and individuals. The court ruled the Second Amendment right was a right of individuals, not militias, and was not a right to form or belong to a militia, but related to an individual right to bear arms for the good of the United States, who could serve as members of a militia upon being called up by the Government in time of collective need. Caetano v. Massachusetts, 577 U.S. ___ (2016) - The Court ruled that the Second Amendment extends to all forms of bearable arms: The Court has held that the Second Amendment extends, prima facie, to all instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the founding, and that this Second Amendment right is fully applicable to the States.[ Because we literally do. --- The gamefaqs moderation team knows dogs capable of being offended, cant laugh at a joke, and like to punish jokes that are acceptable on prime time TV pg shows. <cite>Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted [p:896311879] in At rally, ... [t:76331358]...</cite> <quote><cite>MutantJohn posted...</cite> <quote>Why do people truly believe they have the right to deadly force? I can't own chemical weapons but you don't see me crying about it</quote> "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008), is a landmark case in which the Supreme Court of the United States held, in a 54 decision, that the Second Amendment protects an individual's right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home, and that Washington, D.C.'s handgun ban and requirement that lawfully-owned rifles and shotguns be kept "unloaded and disassembled or bound by a trigger lock" violated this guarantee. Presser v. Illinois, 116 U.S. 252 (1886) - This second post-Civil War era case related to the meaning of the Second Amendment rights relating to militias and individuals. The court ruled the Second Amendment right was a right of individuals, not militias, and was not a right to form or belong to a militia, but related to an individual right to bear arms for the good of the United States, who could serve as members of a militia upon being called up by the Government in time of collective need. Caetano v. Massachusetts, 577 U.S. ___ (2016) - The Court ruled that the Second Amendment extends to all forms of bearable arms: The Court has held that the Second Amendment extends, prima facie, to all instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the founding, and that this Second Amendment right is fully applicable to the States.[ Because we literally do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MutantJohn 02/18/18 12:13:59 PM #104:	"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." Keep in mind when this was written. Literally wrote "All men are created equal..." while perpetuating the slave trade. --- "Oh, my mother; oh, my friends, ask the angels, will I ever see heaven again?" - Laura Marling <cite>MutantJohn posted [p:896311932] in At rally, ... [t:76331358]...</cite> <quote><quote>"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." </quote> Keep in mind when this was written. Literally wrote "All men are created equal..." while perpetuating the slave trade.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cj_WlLL_VVlN 02/18/18 12:15:50 PM #105:	MutantJohn posted... "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." Keep in mind when this was written. Literally wrote "All men are created equal..." while perpetuating the slave trade. Caetano v. Massachusetts, 577 U.S. ___ (2016) - The Court ruled that the Second Amendment extends to all forms of bearable arms: The Court has held that the Second Amendment extends, prima facie, to all instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the founding, and that this Second Amendment right is fully applicable to the States. --- The gamefaqs moderation team knows dogs capable of being offended, cant laugh at a joke, and like to punish jokes that are acceptable on prime time TV pg shows. <cite>Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted [p:896312029] in At rally, ... [t:76331358]...</cite> <quote><cite>MutantJohn posted...</cite> <quote><quote>"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." </quote> Keep in mind when this was written. Literally wrote "All men are created equal..." while perpetuating the slave trade.</quote> Caetano v. Massachusetts, 577 U.S. ___ (2016) - The Court ruled that the Second Amendment extends to all forms of bearable arms: The Court has held that the Second Amendment extends, prima facie, to all instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the founding, and that this Second Amendment right is fully applicable to the States.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MutantJohn 02/18/18 12:17:02 PM #106:	So this means I can get me some chemical weapons? --- "Oh, my mother; oh, my friends, ask the angels, will I ever see heaven again?" - Laura Marling <cite>MutantJohn posted [p:896312084] in At rally, ... [t:76331358]...</cite> <quote>So this means I can get me some chemical weapons?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ModLogic 02/18/18 12:17:19 PM #107:	MutantJohn posted... "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." Keep in mind when this was written. Literally wrote "All men are created equal..." while perpetuating the slave trade. not surprising. gun nuts would have supported slavery back in the day --- http://i.imgur.com/hEL2qQYh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/lbSi0U3.png http://i.imgur.com/FA2GxDS.jpg http://i.imgur.com/xaRYKZM.png http://i.imgur.com/ZngbqJn.jpg <cite>ModLogic posted [p:896312094] in At rally, ... [t:76331358]...</cite> <quote><cite>MutantJohn posted...</cite> <quote><quote>"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." </quote> Keep in mind when this was written. Literally wrote "All men are created equal..." while perpetuating the slave trade.</quote> not surprising. gun nuts would have supported slavery back in the day</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 02/18/18 12:19:02 PM #108:	DirkDiggles posted... The Great Muta 22 posted... What a shit meme that picture is Truth hurts sometimes. Nah, it's just a shitty meme, regardless of the content. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXezjbuzh14 <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:896312162] in At rally, ... [t:76331358]...</cite> <quote><cite>DirkDiggles posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote>What a shit meme that picture is</quote> Truth hurts sometimes.</quote> Nah, it's just a shitty meme, regardless of the content.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordRazziel 02/18/18 12:30:58 PM #109:	So all the people saying to have armed guards at schools, there was already one in this incident. Do you really think it's a mark of a good country that you're saying we basicly need our schools to look like the Gaza Strip? --- http://i.imgur.com/8pzUM.gif http://i.imgur.com/Oh1iujg.gif The only bad part about flying is having to come back down to the f***in' world ~Rat <cite>LordRazziel posted [p:896312728] in At rally, ... [t:76331358]...</cite> <quote>So all the people saying to have armed guards at schools, there was already one in this incident. Do you really think it's a mark of a good country that you're saying we basicly need our schools to look like the Gaza Strip?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cj_WlLL_VVlN 02/18/18 12:32:54 PM #110:	MutantJohn posted... So this means I can get me some chemical weapons? Heller Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. The Courts opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms. Millers holding that the sorts of weapons protected are those in common use at the time finds support in the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons. And from the constitution No State shall, without the Consent of the Congress, lay any Imposts or Duties on Imports or Exports, except what may be absolutely necessary for executing it's inspection Laws: and the net Produce of all Duties and Imposts, laid by any State on Imports or Exports, shall be for the Use of the Treasury of the United States; and all such Laws shall be subject to the Revision and Controul of the Congress. No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay. Chemical weapons or weapons of war. Not of common use. War and foreign policy falls completely to the federal government. --- The gamefaqs moderation team knows dogs capable of being offended, cant laugh at a joke, and like to punish jokes that are acceptable on prime time TV pg shows. <cite>Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted [p:896312807] in At rally, ... [t:76331358]...</cite> <quote><cite>MutantJohn posted...</cite> <quote>So this means I can get me some chemical weapons?</quote> Heller Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. The Courts opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms. Millers holding that the sorts of weapons protected are those in common use at the time finds support in the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons. And from the constitution No State shall, without the Consent of the Congress, lay any Imposts or Duties on Imports or Exports, except what may be absolutely necessary for executing it's inspection Laws: and the net Produce of all Duties and Imposts, laid by any State on Imports or Exports, shall be for the Use of the Treasury of the United States; and all such Laws shall be subject to the Revision and Controul of the Congress. No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay. Chemical weapons or weapons of war. Not of common use. War and foreign policy falls completely to the federal government.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Spiret 02/18/18 12:40:31 PM #111:	ASithLord7 posted... Ahh yes as we know much of Europe is just authoritarian dictatorships in this day and age much of it isnt like you might think. theres no tanks rolling down the streets or armed guards on street corners (well for the most part). instead you start to see mundane laws being heavily in-forced with politeness and smiles. telling people what they can or cant say. how they can stand up for them selves and how they cant. what they can own and what they shouldnt (and i dont mean extreme examples either). it always starts small to the point that most may not realize it until they run into it and are heavily punished for it. the UK is a great example of this. saying racist things or even just heavily disagreeing with a certain religion can potentially put you in jail longer than a pedophile would be. having normal items needing to have ID's for. defending your self with a firearm in most cases is a punishable offense or even with other types of weapons outside of your bare hands since those items are used for specific purposes only. it always starts small and less bombastic and it usually always starts with disarming the populous at the first stage to where the govt. can start seeing what they can enforce. and extremely slowly your rights start to get stripped away. --- Currently playing: Forza Horizon 3 - Dead Rising - Hitman <cite>Dark_Spiret posted [p:896313137] in At rally, ... [t:76331358]...</cite> <quote><cite>ASithLord7 posted...</cite> <quote>Ahh yes as we know much of Europe is just authoritarian dictatorships</quote>in this day and age much of it isnt like you might think. theres no tanks rolling down the streets or armed guards on street corners (well for the most part). instead you start to see mundane laws being heavily in-forced with politeness and smiles. telling people what they can or cant say. how they can stand up for them selves and how they cant. what they can own and what they shouldnt (and i dont mean extreme examples either). it always starts small to the point that most may not realize it until they run into it and are heavily punished for it. the UK is a great example of this. saying racist things or even just heavily disagreeing with a certain religion can potentially put you in jail longer than a pedophile would be. having normal items needing to have ID's for. defending your self with a firearm in most cases is a punishable offense or even with other types of weapons outside of your bare hands since those items are used for specific purposes only. it always starts small and less bombastic and it usually always starts with disarming the populous at the first stage to where the govt. can start seeing what they can enforce. and extremely slowly your rights start to get stripped away.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shuto-uke 02/18/18 1:02:22 PM #112:	ToonLinkWithGun posted... Shuto-uke posted... ToonLinkWithGun posted... Shuto-uke posted... ToonLinkWithGun posted... Rad_Chad posted... ASithLord7 posted... Stop politicizing this tragedy, victims of this tragedy! On point lol The most bogus thing about it is that many pro-gun types are just scared of "the man" and other imaginary things they'll never need guns to fight. It's like hoarding butt ointment in case aliens invade and start probing (thanks, autocorrect) everybody hardcore. Hypothetically, it's possible, but none of the "cold dead hands" people are as hard as they think they are and if the government did become openly authoritarian, all of them would just die in drone strikes or organized armored, air, and artillery strikes. They're living in some male power fantasy that they're all about freedom, but they're just some weird hybrid of fearful and overconfident and would just get slaughtered. So just become a communist country now right? It is funny you make topics about how much you grief and act all unmanly when some kid of a co worker from your job dies from the flu, but if 17 kids die from a school shooting you get all callous and insensitive and dont give a fuck because you care more about your toys than the lives of the kids who died. Judging by other topics you make, if this had happened to you you would be crying so much you would need to get hooked on an IV just so you dont dehydrate, but since it happened to others and you like guns youre like were not commie country hurr durr mah guns! Very sensitive of you to use a 12 year old girl who died horribly that I knew to paint me as a hypocrite when I never said I don't care about those kids. It's tragic and I sympathize, but I'm not going to make an irrational judgment based solely on my emotions. So shut the fuck up This is the emotional equivalent of fuck you I got mine. Dont worry buddy nobody is going to take your toys away from you. You can go pew pew pew all you want and pretend youre link with a gun instead of a sword, others like me will feel bad for the kids for you, dont worry I know no one is going to take my guns away from me. I wish YOU would accept that and move on to finding a more sensible solution to why people are killing people and not "gunz r bad think of the children!" Most of your gun crime comes from gangs. Start there. Don't ever mention my boss' daughter like that again. Lmao the faux outrage! I think you just caused a blizzard somewhere with such a snowflake post LMAO <cite>Shuto-uke posted [p:896314171] in At rally, ... [t:76331358]...</cite> <quote><cite>ToonLinkWithGun posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Shuto-uke posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ToonLinkWithGun posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Shuto-uke posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ToonLinkWithGun posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rad_Chad posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ASithLord7 posted...</cite> <quote>Stop politicizing this tragedy, victims of this tragedy!</quote> On point lol The most bogus thing about it is that many pro-gun types are just scared of "the man" and other imaginary things they'll never need guns to fight. It's like hoarding butt ointment in case aliens invade and start probing (thanks, autocorrect) everybody hardcore. Hypothetically, it's possible, but none of the "cold dead hands" people are as hard as they think they are and if the government did become openly authoritarian, all of them would just die in drone strikes or organized armored, air, and artillery strikes. They're living in some male power fantasy that they're all about freedom, but they're just some weird hybrid of fearful and overconfident and would just get slaughtered.</quote> So just become a communist country now right?</quote> It is funny you make topics about how much you grief and act all unmanly when some kid of a co worker from your job dies from the flu, but if 17 kids die from a school shooting you get all callous and insensitive and dont give a fuck because you care more about your toys than the lives of the kids who died. Judging by other topics you make, if this had happened to you you would be crying so much you would need to get hooked on an IV just so you dont dehydrate, but since it happened to others and you like guns youre like were not commie country hurr durr mah guns!</quote> Very sensitive of you to use a 12 year old girl who died horribly that I knew to paint me as a hypocrite when I never said I don't care about those kids. It's tragic and I sympathize, but I'm not going to make an irrational judgment based solely on my emotions. So shut the fuck up</quote> This is the emotional equivalent of fuck you I got mine. Dont worry buddy nobody is going to take your toys away from you. You can go pew pew pew all you want and pretend youre link with a gun instead of a sword, others like me will feel bad for the kids for you, dont worry</quote> I know no one is going to take my guns away from me. I wish YOU would accept that and move on to finding a more sensible solution to why people are killing people and not "gunz r bad think of the children!" Most of your gun crime comes from gangs. Start there. Don't ever mention my boss' daughter like that again.</quote> Lmao the faux outrage! I think you just caused a blizzard somewhere with such a snowflake post LMAO</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DirkDiggles 02/18/18 1:25:25 PM #113:	Shut up ROD. --- https://i.imgur.com/akpEP6p.gif https://i.imgur.com/hVRNKNs.gif <cite>DirkDiggles posted [p:896315302] in At rally, ... [t:76331358]...</cite> <quote>Shut up ROD.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 02/18/18 1:46:02 PM #114:	Everyone calling for gun bans itt, what do you think the solution to this problem will be when someone releases a 3D printer plan on the internet for a functioning fully automatic assault rifle? This is logically only a matter of time not of if as plastic 3D printed guns have already been made and a fully functioning 3D fully automatic rifle is only generations away from that technologically. After thats on the internet it's game over there will be absolutely no way to stop anyone from getting one anywhere in the world. So what's the solution? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 <cite>Howl posted [p:896316374] in At rally, ... [t:76331358]...</cite> <quote>Everyone calling for gun bans itt, what do you think the solution to this problem will be when someone releases a 3D printer plan on the internet for a functioning fully automatic assault rifle? This is logically only a matter of time not of if as plastic 3D printed guns have already been made and a fully functioning 3D fully automatic rifle is only generations away from that technologically. After thats on the internet it's game over there will be absolutely no way to stop anyone from getting one anywhere in the world. So what's the solution?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shuto-uke 02/18/18 1:51:46 PM #115:	Howl posted... Everyone calling for gun bans itt, what do you think the solution to this problem will be when someone releases a 3D printer plan on the internet for a functioning fully automatic assault rifle? This is logically only a matter of time not of if as plastic 3D printed guns have already been made and a fully functioning 3D fully automatic rifle is only generations away from that technologically. After thats on the internet it's game over there will be absolutely no way to stop anyone from getting one anywhere in the world. So what's the solution? Do you remember Napster, limewire, etc and the days of people downloading MP3s for free? Yeah the recording association made it much, much harder didnt they? Same principle <cite>Shuto-uke posted [p:896316664] in At rally, ... [t:76331358]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote>Everyone calling for gun bans itt, what do you think the solution to this problem will be when someone releases a 3D printer plan on the internet for a functioning fully automatic assault rifle? This is logically only a matter of time not of if as plastic 3D printed guns have already been made and a fully functioning 3D fully automatic rifle is only generations away from that technologically. After thats on the internet it's game over there will be absolutely no way to stop anyone from getting one anywhere in the world. So what's the solution?</quote> Do you remember Napster, limewire, etc and the days of people downloading MP3s for free? Yeah the recording association made it much, much harder didnt they? Same principle</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 02/18/18 1:58:56 PM #116:	Shuto-uke posted... Do you remember Napster, limewire, etc and the days of people downloading MP3s for free? Yeah the recording association made it much, much harder didnt they? Same principle LOL they didn't do shit. It's just as easy to download illegal MP3's today as back then. Your comparison invalidates your own argument and validates his. --- Oda break tracker 2018- 1 (1) \| THE Ohio State: 11-2 \| Oakland Raiders: 6-10 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:896317059] in At rally, ... [t:76331358]...</cite> <quote><cite>Shuto-uke posted...</cite> <quote>Do you remember Napster, limewire, etc and the days of people downloading MP3s for free? Yeah the recording association made it much, much harder didnt they? Same principle </quote> LOL they didn't do shit. It's just as easy to download illegal MP3's today as back then. Your comparison invalidates your own argument and validates his.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
byrone 02/18/18 2:00:59 PM #117:	Howl posted... Everyone calling for gun bans itt, what do you think the solution to this problem will be when someone releases a 3D printer plan on the internet for a functioning fully automatic assault rifle? That'd be illegal <cite>byrone posted [p:896317199] in At rally, ... [t:76331358]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote>Everyone calling for gun bans itt, what do you think the solution to this problem will be when someone releases a 3D printer plan on the internet for a functioning fully automatic assault rifle? </quote> That'd be illegal</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 02/18/18 2:03:23 PM #118:	ToonLinkWithGun posted... Shuto-uke posted... ToonLinkWithGun posted... Rad_Chad posted... ASithLord7 posted... Stop politicizing this tragedy, victims of this tragedy! On point lol The most bogus thing about it is that many pro-gun types are just scared of "the man" and other imaginary things they'll never need guns to fight. It's like hoarding butt ointment in case aliens invade and start probing (thanks, autocorrect) everybody hardcore. Hypothetically, it's possible, but none of the "cold dead hands" people are as hard as they think they are and if the government did become openly authoritarian, all of them would just die in drone strikes or organized armored, air, and artillery strikes. They're living in some male power fantasy that they're all about freedom, but they're just some weird hybrid of fearful and overconfident and would just get slaughtered. So just become a communist country now right? It is funny you make topics about how much you grief and act all unmanly when some kid of a co worker from your job dies from the flu, but if 17 kids die from a school shooting you get all callous and insensitive and don?t give a fuck because you care more about your toys than the lives of the kids who died. Judging by other topics you make, if this had happened to you you would be crying so much you would need to get hooked on an IV just so you don?t dehydrate, but since it happened to others and you like guns you?re like ?we?re not commie country hurr durr mah guns!? Very sensitive of you to use a 12 year old girl who died horribly that I knew to paint me as a hypocrite when I never said I don't care about those kids. It's tragic and I sympathize, but I'm not going to make an irrational judgment based solely on my emotions. So shut the fuck up ^ #triggered --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:896317335] in At rally, ... [t:76331358]...</cite> <quote><cite>ToonLinkWithGun posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Shuto-uke posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ToonLinkWithGun posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rad_Chad posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ASithLord7 posted...</cite> <quote>Stop politicizing this tragedy, victims of this tragedy!</quote> On point lol The most bogus thing about it is that many pro-gun types are just scared of "the man" and other imaginary things they'll never need guns to fight. It's like hoarding butt ointment in case aliens invade and start probing (thanks, autocorrect) everybody hardcore. Hypothetically, it's possible, but none of the "cold dead hands" people are as hard as they think they are and if the government did become openly authoritarian, all of them would just die in drone strikes or organized armored, air, and artillery strikes. They're living in some male power fantasy that they're all about freedom, but they're just some weird hybrid of fearful and overconfident and would just get slaughtered.</quote> So just become a communist country now right?</quote> It is funny you make topics about how much you grief and act all unmanly when some kid of a co worker from your job dies from the flu, but if 17 kids die from a school shooting you get all callous and insensitive and don?t give a fuck because you care more about your toys than the lives of the kids who died. Judging by other topics you make, if this had happened to you you would be crying so much you would need to get hooked on an IV just so you don?t dehydrate, but since it happened to others and you like guns you?re like ?we?re not commie country hurr durr mah guns!?</quote> Very sensitive of you to use a 12 year old girl who died horribly that I knew to paint me as a hypocrite when I never said I don't care about those kids. It's tragic and I sympathize, but I'm not going to make an irrational judgment based solely on my emotions. So shut the fuck up</quote> ^ #triggered</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EbonTitanium 02/18/18 2:15:17 PM #119:	Even with all of this b***** & moaning not a single person has come up with a solution. --- I don't know which is worse: fanboys or elitist. <cite>EbonTitanium posted [p:896317953] in At rally, ... [t:76331358]...</cite> <quote>Even with all of this b***** & moaning not a single person has come up with a solution.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 02/18/18 2:19:22 PM #120:	Kineth posted... Dark_Spiret posted... and like always this is why nothing will ever change. one side believes what they want and fuck you to the other side for believing something else. wanting to save lives is commendable, but to achieve that most proposals means stripping away rights to make people more "safer" which is the starting bases of many dictatorships and authoritarian govts through-out history. and once you go down this path its hard to come back from it. and this goes for the right as well with trying to place armed guards in schools and snatching up individuals who have no prior issues on their record who may or may not do something based on some tweets. both of these are dangerous starting points for something much worse. Well said. I'm not convinced that this status quo is the best of all possible worlds, or that our only alternatives to regular mass shootings is police state authoritarianism. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:896318179] in At rally, ... [t:76331358]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dark_Spiret posted...</cite> <quote>and like always this is why nothing will ever change. one side believes what they want and fuck you to the other side for believing something else. wanting to save lives is commendable, but to achieve that most proposals means stripping away rights to make people more "safer" which is the starting bases of many dictatorships and authoritarian govts through-out history. and once you go down this path its hard to come back from it. and this goes for the right as well with trying to place armed guards in schools and snatching up individuals who have no prior issues on their record who may or may not do something based on some tweets. both of these are dangerous starting points for something much worse.</quote> Well said.</quote> I'm not convinced that this status quo is the best of all possible worlds, or that our only alternatives to regular mass shootings is police state authoritarianism.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 02/18/18 2:42:52 PM #121:	byrone posted... Howl posted... Everyone calling for gun bans itt, what do you think the solution to this problem will be when someone releases a 3D printer plan on the internet for a functioning fully automatic assault rifle? That'd be illegal Yes it will be illegal eventually I don't even think that law exists yet. But how difficult is it to do and acquire illegal things on the internet? After it's on the internet it will be on the internet forever. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 <cite>Howl posted [p:896319446] in At rally, ... [t:76331358]...</cite> <quote><cite>byrone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> Everyone calling for gun bans itt, what do you think the solution to this problem will be when someone releases a 3D printer plan on the internet for a functioning fully automatic assault rifle? </quote> That'd be illegal</quote> Yes it will be illegal eventually I don't even think that law exists yet. But how difficult is it to do and acquire illegal things on the internet? After it's on the internet it will be on the internet forever.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Spiret 02/18/18 2:50:30 PM #122:	Antifar posted... I'm not convinced that this status quo is the best of all possible worlds, or that our only alternatives to regular mass shootings is police state authoritarianism. its not. for one thing more social programs would most likely go a long way in helping. get kids some more help by actually giving a shit about them. --- Currently playing: Forza Horizon 3 - Dead Rising - Hitman <cite>Dark_Spiret posted [p:896319862] in At rally, ... [t:76331358]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>I'm not convinced that this status quo is the best of all possible worlds, or that our only alternatives to regular mass shootings is police state authoritarianism.</quote>its not. for one thing more social programs would most likely go a long way in helping. get kids some more help by actually giving a shit about them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Butterfiles 02/18/18 2:52:33 PM #123:	Dark_Spiret posted... Antifar posted... I'm not convinced that this status quo is the best of all possible worlds, or that our only alternatives to regular mass shootings is police state authoritarianism. its not. for one thing more social programs would most likely go a long way in helping. get kids some more help by actually giving a shit about them. It's a good thing the right is so accepting of these social programs! --- http://www.last.fm/user/PigBun 56k warning <cite>Butterfiles posted [p:896319956] in At rally, ... [t:76331358]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dark_Spiret posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>I'm not convinced that this status quo is the best of all possible worlds, or that our only alternatives to regular mass shootings is police state authoritarianism.</quote>its not. for one thing more social programs would most likely go a long way in helping. get kids some more help by actually giving a shit about them.</quote> It's a good thing the right is so accepting of these social programs!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Spiret 02/18/18 2:55:14 PM #124:	Butterfiles posted... It's a good thing the right is so accepting of these social programs! indeed, but even with dems in full control they couldnt really do anything on gun control either. they might when it comes to healthcare and other programs. --- Currently playing: Forza Horizon 3 - Dead Rising - Hitman <cite>Dark_Spiret posted [p:896320090] in At rally, ... [t:76331358]...</cite> <quote><cite>Butterfiles posted...</cite> <quote>It's a good thing the right is so accepting of these social programs!</quote>indeed, but even with dems in full control they couldnt really do anything on gun control either. they might when it comes to healthcare and other programs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
booboy 02/18/18 3:12:26 PM #125:	For the 3D printer argument, that's a whole different can of worms. Anyone who's a little clever with SolidWorks, Inventor, or Fusion360 can take the public domain AR-15 or M4 dimensional blueprints, plug those numbers in, and crap out STL files ready to print. Add to that, we right now have metal 3D printers with public access that can print stainless steel and aluminum. --- There is no problem that can't be solved by applying more yuri to it. In Torque We Trust <cite>booboy posted [p:896321006] in At rally, ... [t:76331358]...</cite> <quote>For the 3D printer argument, that's a whole different can of worms. Anyone who's a little clever with SolidWorks, Inventor, or Fusion360 can take the public domain AR-15 or M4 dimensional blueprints, plug those numbers in, and crap out STL files ready to print. Add to that, we right now have metal 3D printers with public access that can print stainless steel and aluminum.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ASithLord7 02/18/18 3:24:15 PM #126:	Dark_Spiret posted... ASithLord7 posted... Ahh yes as we know much of Europe is just authoritarian dictatorships in this day and age much of it isnt like you might think. theres no tanks rolling down the streets or armed guards on street corners (well for the most part). instead you start to see mundane laws being heavily in-forced with politeness and smiles. telling people what they can or cant say. how they can stand up for them selves and how they cant. what they can own and what they shouldnt (and i dont mean extreme examples either). it always starts small to the point that most may not realize it until they run into it and are heavily punished for it. the UK is a great example of this. saying racist things or even just heavily disagreeing with a certain religion can potentially put you in jail longer than a pedophile would be. having normal items needing to have ID's for. defending your self with a firearm in most cases is a punishable offense or even with other types of weapons outside of your bare hands since those items are used for specific purposes only. it always starts small and less bombastic and it usually always starts with disarming the populous at the first stage to where the govt. can start seeing what they can enforce. and extremely slowly your rights start to get stripped away. You've clearly never left the country. Please get out sometime and see more of the world beyond whatever hickville town you live in. --- http://i.imgur.com/VZeCB.gif RebelElite791 <cite>ASithLord7 posted [p:896321584] in At rally, ... [t:76331358]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dark_Spiret posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ASithLord7 posted...</cite> <quote>Ahh yes as we know much of Europe is just authoritarian dictatorships</quote>in this day and age much of it isnt like you might think. theres no tanks rolling down the streets or armed guards on street corners (well for the most part). instead you start to see mundane laws being heavily in-forced with politeness and smiles. telling people what they can or cant say. how they can stand up for them selves and how they cant. what they can own and what they shouldnt (and i dont mean extreme examples either). it always starts small to the point that most may not realize it until they run into it and are heavily punished for it. the UK is a great example of this. saying racist things or even just heavily disagreeing with a certain religion can potentially put you in jail longer than a pedophile would be. having normal items needing to have ID's for. defending your self with a firearm in most cases is a punishable offense or even with other types of weapons outside of your bare hands since those items are used for specific purposes only. it always starts small and less bombastic and it usually always starts with disarming the populous at the first stage to where the govt. can start seeing what they can enforce. and extremely slowly your rights start to get stripped away.</quote> You've clearly never left the country. Please get out sometime and see more of the world beyond whatever hickville town you live in.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 02/18/18 4:02:24 PM #127:	booboy posted... For the 3D printer argument, that's a whole different can of worms. Anyone who's a little clever with SolidWorks, Inventor, or Fusion360 can take the public domain AR-15 or M4 dimensional blueprints, plug those numbers in, and crap out STL files ready to print. Add to that, we right now have metal 3D printers with public access that can print stainless steel and aluminum. That's my point it's only a matter of time before 3D printers are cheap and ubiqitous. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 <cite>Howl posted [p:896323546] in At rally, ... [t:76331358]...</cite> <quote><cite>booboy posted...</cite> <quote>For the 3D printer argument, that's a whole different can of worms. Anyone who's a little clever with SolidWorks, Inventor, or Fusion360 can take the public domain AR-15 or M4 dimensional blueprints, plug those numbers in, and crap out STL files ready to print. Add to that, we right now have metal 3D printers with public access that can print stainless steel and aluminum.</quote> That's my point it's only a matter of time before 3D printers are cheap and ubiqitous.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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