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Malcrasternus 02/18/18 3:08:32 AM #51: |
Cosmic_Diabetic posted...
Alright, since you're so giddy to try and get passive aggressive jabs in, how's about we discuss your marvelously dim suggestions? Cosmic_Diabetic posted... How about making it harder to have rifles in the first place such as tighter background checks. How about a national database that can instantly check to see if the person interested in buying a firearm has any sort of history that would make them unfit to own a firearm? A National Instant Criminal Check, or NICS, for short? Think that'd help? Cosmic_Diabetic posted... How about only being allowed to have hunting rifles such as bolt actions or double barrels be allowed outside of the home? So even more powerful weapons? That's your suggestion here? To be only allowed rifles that shoot even larger rounds, or shotguns that deliver far more energy output than an intermediate 5.56? Cosmic_Diabetic posted... You don't need to be walking around with an AR or a pistol. Fuck off with this "need" thing. Just kills your whole argument. If in your fantasy world, a surefire background check is found, and everyone that can own a gun is safe and responsible, why does it matter then what inanimate objects are and aren't allowed to be carried around? Cosmic_Diabetic posted... You know gun control. Still waiting on you to suggest good measures. Because it sure as hell wasn't any of your suggestions earlier. --- http://i.imgtc.com/tUK3LwiHnb.jpg 4/15/1951 - 3/18/2014 "But not forgotten." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Malcrasternus 02/18/18 3:25:37 AM #53: |
AssultTank posted...
I have to wonder, why the hate boner for rifles? Because the AR-15 looks scary and is easy for shitposters to vilify. --- http://i.imgtc.com/tUK3LwiHnb.jpg 4/15/1951 - 3/18/2014 "But not forgotten." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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spikethedevil 02/18/18 3:31:54 AM #55: |
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
What do I care what some dumb kids think? Especially dumb kids that are acting emotionally and not rationally due to having just gone through a terrible ordeal? Oh look it's the why not ban this other thing straw man. --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 02/18/18 3:38:34 AM #56: |
Cosmic_Diabetic posted...
What type do you have? I'm a type 1. Don't think I've seen this account post before. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sativa_Rose 02/18/18 3:55:34 AM #57: |
AssultTank posted...
I have to wonder, why the hate boner for rifles? They account for less than 5% of all gun deaths. In fact, more people were killed by shotguns in the period from 2010 to 2014 than were killed by rifles. (1608 v 1306) and only in 2010 were more people killed by rifles than shotguns, 1 more person was killed by a rifle that year. More people were killed by knives in 2010 than were killed by rifles in the period from 2010 to 2014. I've talked to a lot of people about this, and the consensus is that there is something specifically horrific about mass shootings that makes it critical that we address it first, as opposed to the more general problem of America's high homicide rate, which as you point out is only less than 5% rifles (with assault rifles only a fraction of those) --- I may not go down in history, but I will go down on your sister. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sativa_Rose 02/18/18 4:04:51 AM #59: |
AssultTank posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...(with assault rifles only a fraction of those) Indeed, but the gun-control supporting public is convinced that AR-15s are assault rifles, and no one needs an assault rifle to hunt deer or defend their home, as it is a military-style assault rifle. They say that we don't need these weapons of war on our streets. --- I may not go down in history, but I will go down on your sister. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Malcrasternus 02/18/18 4:14:27 AM #61: |
Private sales don't(or rather didn't) require a background check. That changed in my state, and now every gun sale has to be at a gun shop so they can do a transfer. A bill of sales would do the exact same thing, and scratching out the serial number on a gun is a huge red-flag already, but hey, it made the soccer moms feel better about themselves, so.
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ModLogic 02/18/18 4:20:59 AM #62: |
Malcrasternus posted...
Cosmic_Diabetic posted... legalize drugs too. sell them at school as part of lunch deals. heorine lunch pack. cocaine breakfast. hey cant stop drugs anwyay right gun nuts? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 02/18/18 5:18:02 AM #63: |
Kineth posted...
@Cosmic_Diabetic posted... Only reposting this because I forgot to tag you. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 02/18/18 5:29:23 AM #65: |
GregShmedley posted...
cerealbox760 posted...Nomadic View posted...Cosmic_Diabetic posted...Nomadic View posted...The Second Amendment isnt going anywhere. OMG ban gunz! Is and always will be a losing argument. There's no way of knowing that for sure, but that aside, do you think it would prevent shootings in the future? --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 02/18/18 5:37:59 AM #67: |
GregShmedley posted...
No, I can say that with 100% confidence. Unless the shooter was receiving a social security/disability check and was deemed unfit to manage his finance. *shrug* Which is why there's an infinitesimal possibility, something like .0001%. I'm not saying you're wrong on the supposition, but it's a hypothetical and can't be proven and isn't the point of that post. And no, I don't believe it would have had an impact on mass shootings. So the question I asked was about future shootings, not ones that have already happened. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rad_Chad 02/18/18 5:47:23 AM #69: |
ASithLord7 posted...
Stop politicizing this tragedy, victims of this tragedy! On point lol The most bogus thing about it is that many pro-gun types are just scared of "the man" and other imaginary things they'll never need guns to fight. It's like hoarding butt ointment in case aliens invade and start probing (thanks, autocorrect) everybody hardcore. Hypothetically, it's possible, but none of the "cold dead hands" people are as hard as they think they are and if the government did become openly authoritarian, all of them would just die in drone strikes or organized armored, air, and artillery strikes. They're living in some male power fantasy that they're all about freedom, but they're just some weird hybrid of fearful and overconfident and would just get slaughtered. --- Sup, bro?! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ToonLinkWithGun 02/18/18 5:49:46 AM #70: |
"Gun control does not equal gun ban!"
"What's your solution?" "Ban assault rifles!" "That's a gun ban." "Nooooooo." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ToonLinkWithGun 02/18/18 5:51:05 AM #71: |
Rad_Chad posted...
ASithLord7 posted...Stop politicizing this tragedy, victims of this tragedy! So just become a communist country now right? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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byrone 02/18/18 5:51:25 AM #72: |
Rad_Chad posted...
ASithLord7 posted...Stop politicizing this tragedy, victims of this tragedy! Rad_Chad posted... On point ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bass_X0 02/18/18 5:55:10 AM #74: |
ASithLord7 posted...
Stop politicizing this tragedy, victims of this tragedy! School shootings are by their very existence, political in nature. --- "Well, it's not a bad game. It's made by Capcom, so how could it?" ~ AVGN ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 02/18/18 5:55:37 AM #75: |
GregShmedley posted...
Kineth posted...*shrug* Which is why there's an infinitesimal possibility. I'm not saying you're wrong on the supposition, but it's a hypothetical and can't be proven and isn't the point of that post. Then do you think nothing can be done to remedy this? --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 02/18/18 7:32:49 AM #77: |
GregShmedley posted...
I believe there are many different ways we can combat this. Then some tangent about banning guns. So what are some of the ways you think could combat this? I wasn't asking what your opinion on banning guns was. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shuto-uke 02/18/18 7:39:52 AM #78: |
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Grief, no matter how passionate, does not make your political ideas matter more. >one illegal dude drives drunk and has a car crash that kills and NFL player > people go like REEEEEEEEE this made me sad! Deport everybody with a vaguely Spanish sounding name! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shuto-uke 02/18/18 7:43:54 AM #79: |
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
Rad_Chad posted...ASithLord7 posted...Stop politicizing this tragedy, victims of this tragedy! It is funny you make topics about how much you grief and act all unmanly when some kid of a co worker from your job dies from the flu, but if 17 kids die from a school shooting you get all callous and insensitive and dont give a fuck because you care more about your toys than the lives of the kids who died. Judging by other topics you make, if this had happened to you you would be crying so much you would need to get hooked on an IV just so you dont dehydrate, but since it happened to others and you like guns youre like were not commie country hurr durr mah guns! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 02/18/18 7:45:22 AM #80: |
Shuto-uke posted...
Very spicy post about ToonLinkWithGun Nice. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dark_Spiret 02/18/18 7:53:49 AM #81: |
so basically its another day of the week.
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creativerealms 02/18/18 8:07:59 AM #82: |
A tragedy like this needs to be politicized if you want to prevent the next one.
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ASithLord7 02/18/18 8:29:44 AM #83: |
Bass_X0 posted...
ASithLord7 posted...Stop politicizing this tragedy, victims of this tragedy! Id hope my sarcasm was fairly obvious --- http://i.imgur.com/VZeCB.gif RebelElite791 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ToonLinkWithGun 02/18/18 8:59:17 AM #84: |
Shuto-uke posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...Rad_Chad posted...ASithLord7 posted...Stop politicizing this tragedy, victims of this tragedy! Very sensitive of you to use a 12 year old girl who died horribly that I knew to paint me as a hypocrite when I never said I don't care about those kids. It's tragic and I sympathize, but I'm not going to make an irrational judgment based solely on my emotions. So shut the fuck up ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN 02/18/18 9:49:52 AM #85: |
spikethedevil posted...
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...What do I care what some dumb kids think? Especially dumb kids that are acting emotionally and not rationally due to having just gone through a terrible ordeal? I absolutely 100% Nevee said that. In the future please read a post, make sure you understand it, and then respond. I wonder if the lack of reading comprehension I've encountered in this topic is a normal amongst the ban all guns, fuck the constitution, statistical anomalies terrify me crowd. Might explain why they're so scared all the time. --- The gamefaqs moderation team knows dogs capable of being offended, cant laugh at a joke, and like to punish jokes that are acceptable on prime time TV pg shows. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shuto-uke 02/18/18 9:51:13 AM #86: |
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
Shuto-uke posted...ToonLinkWithGun posted...Rad_Chad posted...ASithLord7 posted...Stop politicizing this tragedy, victims of this tragedy! This is the emotional equivalent of fuck you I got mine. Dont worry buddy nobody is going to take your toys away from you. You can go pew pew pew all you want and pretend youre link with a gun instead of a sword, others like me will feel bad for the kids for you, dont worry ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Offworlder1 02/18/18 9:53:40 AM #87: |
Another attempt at using a horrible event to push shitty politics because of feelings not logic.
People need to stop using tragedy to push bad agendas that only fuck over good people. --- "Always two there are, a master and an apprentice" 3DS FC: 1564 - 7512 - 1815 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shuto-uke 02/18/18 10:01:39 AM #88: |
Offworlder1 posted...
Another attempt at using a horrible event to push shitty politics because of feelings not logic. I love how people whose excuse to own weapons is that somehow they can resist a hypothetical tyrannical government from a dystopian future even if said government has tanks, planes, choppers and rocket launchers. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 02/18/18 10:07:53 AM #89: |
The idea held by many on the right that emotions are a disqualifying factor is bullshit. Emotions matter. They're how we say that the deaths of 17 school children are tragic. They're how we prioritize the significance of some events over others. You're not the cold, unfeeling automatons you portray yourself as, and it would be bad if you were. It would be bad if you weren't emotional about the senseless, preventable deaths of 17 children.
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ilovuuu 02/18/18 10:25:34 AM #90: |
Antifar posted...
The idea held by many on the right that emotions are a disqualifying factor is bullshit. Emotions matter. They're how we say that the deaths of 17 school children are tragic. They're how we prioritize the significance of some events over others. You're not the cold, unfeeling automatons you portray yourself as, and it would be bad if you were. It would be bad if you weren't emotional about the senseless, preventable deaths of 17 children. the right is far more emotional than the left ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EnterTheTekken 02/18/18 10:30:13 AM #91: |
Antifar posted...
The idea held by many on the right that emotions are a disqualifying factor is bullshit. Emotions matter. They're how we say that the deaths of 17 school children are tragic. They're how we prioritize the significance of some events over others. You're not the cold, unfeeling automatons you portray yourself as, and it would be bad if you were. It would be bad if you weren't emotional about the senseless, preventable deaths of 17 children. It's very fascinating that someone on the right could use the very same logic [and vice versa on the left with the point of conention] when debating abortion. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ToonLinkWithGun 02/18/18 10:30:27 AM #92: |
Shuto-uke posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...Shuto-uke posted...ToonLinkWithGun posted...Rad_Chad posted...ASithLord7 posted...Stop politicizing this tragedy, victims of this tragedy! I know no one is going to take my guns away from me. I wish YOU would accept that and move on to finding a more sensible solution to why people are killing people and not "gunz r bad think of the children!" Most of your gun crime comes from gangs. Start there. Don't ever mention my boss' daughter like that again. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ASithLord7 02/18/18 11:24:30 AM #93: |
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
Shuto-uke posted...ToonLinkWithGun posted...Shuto-uke posted...ToonLinkWithGun posted...Rad_Chad posted...ASithLord7 posted...Stop politicizing this tragedy, victims of this tragedy! Oh the faux-outrage is fucking tangible --- http://i.imgur.com/VZeCB.gif RebelElite791 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bass_X0 02/18/18 11:37:10 AM #94: |
It's sad that America has gone the way of "You may take the lives of my children but you will never take my guns!"
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DirkDiggles 02/18/18 11:58:29 AM #95: |
Cosmic_Diabetic posted...
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The Great Muta 22 02/18/18 12:02:00 PM #96: |
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DirkDiggles 02/18/18 12:03:45 PM #97: |
The Great Muta 22 posted...
What a shit meme that picture is Truth hurts sometimes. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MutantJohn 02/18/18 12:04:42 PM #98: |
Why do people truly believe they have the right to deadly force? I can't own chemical weapons but you don't see me crying about it
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Dark_Spiret 02/18/18 12:06:26 PM #99: |
and like always this is why nothing will ever change. one side believes what they want and fuck you to the other side for believing something else.
wanting to save lives is commendable, but to achieve that most proposals means stripping away rights to make people more "safer" which is the starting bases of many dictatorships and authoritarian govts through-out history. and once you go down this path its hard to come back from it. and this goes for the right as well with trying to place armed guards in schools and snatching up individuals who have no prior issues on their record who may or may not do something based on some tweets. both of these are dangerous starting points for something much worse. --- Currently playing: Forza Horizon 3 - Dead Rising - Hitman ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ASithLord7 02/18/18 12:07:01 PM #100: |
Dark_Spiret posted...
and like always this is why nothing will ever change. one side believes what they want and fuck you to the other side for believing something else. Ahh yes as we know much of Europe is just authoritarian dictatorships --- http://i.imgur.com/VZeCB.gif RebelElite791 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 02/18/18 12:07:22 PM #101: |
Dark_Spiret posted...
and like always this is why nothing will ever change. one side believes what they want and fuck you to the other side for believing something else. Well said. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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