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LordRazziel 02/18/18 1:13:43 AM #51:	Sephiroth1288 posted... ChainedRedone posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... LordRazziel posted... Blbmbr666 posted... LordRazziel posted... So in the same way immigration can't stop Islamic extremists, but could reduce their numbers, couldn't stricter gun laws reduce incidents of mass murder? I just wanna point out that your comparison is flawed. Immigration changes would stop the perpetrators of violence, a gun law would only make a tool harder to acquire instead of stopping the perpetrators. Depends on how you look at it. My point is reduction through increased difficulty. In that way, it's an apt comparison. A psycho who wants to kill people and can't get a gun will use other things instead, like a truck or a pressure cooker bomb. You mean the pressure cooker bombs that killed 3 people in Boston? Yeah those things sure are as deadly as guns that kill dozens in minutes. The majority of mass shootings have fewer than 5 deaths. Does that include gang and drug violence? --- http://i.imgur.com/8pzUM.gif http://i.imgur.com/Oh1iujg.gif The only bad part about flying is having to come back down to the f***in' world ~Rat <cite>LordRazziel posted [p:896294022] in Gun nuts: ... [t:76331165]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Blbmbr666 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote>So in the same way immigration can't stop Islamic extremists, but could reduce their numbers, couldn't stricter gun laws reduce incidents of mass murder?</quote> I just wanna point out that your comparison is flawed. Immigration changes would stop the perpetrators of violence, a gun law would only make a tool harder to acquire instead of stopping the perpetrators.</quote> Depends on how you look at it. My point is reduction through increased difficulty. In that way, it's an apt comparison.</quote> A psycho who wants to kill people and can't get a gun will use other things instead, like a truck or a pressure cooker bomb.</quote> You mean the pressure cooker bombs that killed 3 people in Boston? Yeah those things sure are as deadly as guns that kill dozens in minutes.</quote> The majority of mass shootings have fewer than 5 deaths.</quote> Does that include gang and drug violence?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MaverickXeo 02/18/18 1:24:00 AM #52:	LordRazziel posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... LordRazziel posted... Blbmbr666 posted... LordRazziel posted... So in the same way immigration can't stop Islamic extremists, but could reduce their numbers, couldn't stricter gun laws reduce incidents of mass murder? I just wanna point out that your comparison is flawed. Immigration changes would stop the perpetrators of violence, a gun law would only make a tool harder to acquire instead of stopping the perpetrators. Depends on how you look at it. My point is reduction through increased difficulty. In that way, it's an apt comparison. A psycho who wants to kill people and can't get a gun will use other things instead, like a truck or a pressure cooker bomb. Always? Every time? If an Islamic Extremist wants to get in the country, won't they just come in anyway? Hard to get in the country if there is a massive ocean in the way. --- --- MaverickXeo --- <cite>MaverickXeo posted [p:896294467] in Gun nuts: ... [t:76331165]...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Blbmbr666 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote>So in the same way immigration can't stop Islamic extremists, but could reduce their numbers, couldn't stricter gun laws reduce incidents of mass murder?</quote> I just wanna point out that your comparison is flawed. Immigration changes would stop the perpetrators of violence, a gun law would only make a tool harder to acquire instead of stopping the perpetrators.</quote> Depends on how you look at it. My point is reduction through increased difficulty. In that way, it's an apt comparison.</quote> A psycho who wants to kill people and can't get a gun will use other things instead, like a truck or a pressure cooker bomb.</quote> Always? Every time? If an Islamic Extremist wants to get in the country, won't they just come in anyway?</quote> Hard to get in the country if there is a massive ocean in the way.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordRazziel 02/18/18 1:26:11 AM #53:	^ --- http://i.imgur.com/8pzUM.gif http://i.imgur.com/Oh1iujg.gif The only bad part about flying is having to come back down to the f***in' world ~Rat <cite>LordRazziel posted [p:896294544] in Gun nuts: ... [t:76331165]...</cite> <quote>^ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 02/18/18 1:27:54 AM #54:	LordRazziel posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... ChainedRedone posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... LordRazziel posted... Blbmbr666 posted... LordRazziel posted... So in the same way immigration can't stop Islamic extremists, but could reduce their numbers, couldn't stricter gun laws reduce incidents of mass murder? I just wanna point out that your comparison is flawed. Immigration changes would stop the perpetrators of violence, a gun law would only make a tool harder to acquire instead of stopping the perpetrators. Depends on how you look at it. My point is reduction through increased difficulty. In that way, it's an apt comparison. A psycho who wants to kill people and can't get a gun will use other things instead, like a truck or a pressure cooker bomb. You mean the pressure cooker bombs that killed 3 people in Boston? Yeah those things sure are as deadly as guns that kill dozens in minutes. The majority of mass shootings have fewer than 5 deaths. Does that include gang and drug violence? No https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shootings_in_the_United_States Even not counting the cases with no fatalities, there's extremely few cases where a mass shooter kills more than 3 people --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:896294604] in Gun nuts: ... [t:76331165]...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Blbmbr666 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote>So in the same way immigration can't stop Islamic extremists, but could reduce their numbers, couldn't stricter gun laws reduce incidents of mass murder?</quote> I just wanna point out that your comparison is flawed. Immigration changes would stop the perpetrators of violence, a gun law would only make a tool harder to acquire instead of stopping the perpetrators.</quote> Depends on how you look at it. My point is reduction through increased difficulty. In that way, it's an apt comparison.</quote> A psycho who wants to kill people and can't get a gun will use other things instead, like a truck or a pressure cooker bomb.</quote> You mean the pressure cooker bombs that killed 3 people in Boston? Yeah those things sure are as deadly as guns that kill dozens in minutes.</quote> The majority of mass shootings have fewer than 5 deaths.</quote> Does that include gang and drug violence?</quote> No https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shootings_in_the_United_States Even not counting the cases with no fatalities, there's extremely few cases where a mass shooter kills more than 3 people</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordRazziel 02/18/18 1:35:08 AM #55:	That's just school shootings, not all mass shootings. What is a mass shooting to you, more than 2, evidently. Guess I can't directly refute that, but to me, you need more. Also, will a psycho that can't get a gun find another method every time? --- http://i.imgur.com/8pzUM.gif http://i.imgur.com/Oh1iujg.gif The only bad part about flying is having to come back down to the f***in' world ~Rat <cite>LordRazziel posted [p:896294857] in Gun nuts: ... [t:76331165]...</cite> <quote>That's just school shootings, not all mass shootings. What is a mass shooting to you, more than 2, evidently. Guess I can't directly refute that, but to me, you need more. Also, will a psycho that can't get a gun find another method every time?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blbmbr666 02/18/18 1:49:10 AM #56:	LordRazziel posted... That's just school shootings, not all mass shootings. What is a mass shooting to you, more than 2, evidently. Guess I can't directly refute that, but to me, you need more. Also, will a psycho that can't get a gun find another method every time? I'm not a psychologist, but if you're mentally unstable enough to want to kill people that badly, not getting a gun isn't gonna stop you. --- Falco New World Order: http://i.imgur.com/iOYw6Ss.png http://imgur.com/dIifHyi <cite>Blbmbr666 posted [p:896295372] in Gun nuts: ... [t:76331165]...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote>That's just school shootings, not all mass shootings. What is a mass shooting to you, more than 2, evidently. Guess I can't directly refute that, but to me, you need more. Also, will a psycho that can't get a gun find another method every time?</quote> I'm not a psychologist, but if you're mentally unstable enough to want to kill people that badly, not getting a gun isn't gonna stop you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordRazziel 02/18/18 1:52:34 AM #57:	Blbmbr666 posted... LordRazziel posted... That's just school shootings, not all mass shootings. What is a mass shooting to you, more than 2, evidently. Guess I can't directly refute that, but to me, you need more. Also, will a psycho that can't get a gun find another method every time? I'm not a psychologist, but if you're mentally unstable enough to want to kill people that badly, not getting a gun isn't gonna stop you. Nor am I, but people who are mentally unstable enough to want to commit suicide are more likely to do so if there is a gun in the house. That says something, I think. --- http://i.imgur.com/8pzUM.gif http://i.imgur.com/Oh1iujg.gif The only bad part about flying is having to come back down to the f***in' world ~Rat <cite>LordRazziel posted [p:896295491] in Gun nuts: ... [t:76331165]...</cite> <quote><cite>Blbmbr666 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote>That's just school shootings, not all mass shootings. What is a mass shooting to you, more than 2, evidently. Guess I can't directly refute that, but to me, you need more. Also, will a psycho that can't get a gun find another method every time?</quote> I'm not a psychologist, but if you're mentally unstable enough to want to kill people that badly, not getting a gun isn't gonna stop you.</quote> Nor am I, but people who are mentally unstable enough to want to commit suicide are more likely to do so if there is a gun in the house. That says something, I think.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Samurontai 02/18/18 1:55:13 AM #58:	MaverickXeo posted... Also, there is this: http://theconversation.com/three-charts-on-australias-declining-homicide-rates-79654 A chart about half way through shows that knives are just as bad as firearms are. Therefore, should we ban knives as well? Should we ban being unarmed too, as being unarmed is one of the most common way to commit homicide? People who use the argument you are using are not good at arguing at all Tell me, when's the last time you peeled an apple with an AR-15? If you do not get my point, knives have many different uses. Guns literally only have one use --- http://i.imgur.com/Scl5rwX.gif http://i.imgur.com/Fjgt7Qq.gif http://i.imgur.com/NidhAni.gif http://i.imgur.com/IGIbQPk.gif <cite>Samurontai posted [p:896295587] in Gun nuts: ... [t:76331165]...</cite> <quote><cite>MaverickXeo posted...</cite> <quote>Also, there is this: http://theconversation.com/three-charts-on-australias-declining-homicide-rates-79654 A chart about half way through shows that knives are just as bad as firearms are. Therefore, should we ban knives as well? Should we ban being unarmed too, as being unarmed is one of the most common way to commit homicide?</quote> People who use the argument you are using are not good at arguing at all Tell me, when's the last time you peeled an apple with an AR-15? If you do not get my point, knives have many different uses. Guns literally only have one use</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
twitterfriends 02/18/18 2:21:05 AM #59:	You summed it up perfectly. --- #NotMyPresident #JusticeDemocrats #Neblio #WolfPAC #Bitcoin #WeAre12 #12thMan #Seahawks #Belieber #DENT #UBI #PokemonGo #twitterfriends #MMA #PopularHashtags <cite>twitterfriends posted [p:896296478] in Gun nuts: ... [t:76331165]...</cite> <quote>You summed it up perfectly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChainedRedone 02/18/18 2:24:41 AM #60:	Sephiroth1288 posted... LordRazziel posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... ChainedRedone posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... Blbmbr666 posted... LordRazziel posted... So in the same way immigration can't stop Islamic extremists, but could reduce their numbers, couldn't stricter gun laws reduce incidents of mass murder? I just wanna point out that your comparison is flawed. Immigration changes would stop the perpetrators of violence, a gun law would only make a tool harder to acquire instead of stopping the perpetrators. Depends on how you look at it. My point is reduction through increased difficulty. In that way, it's an apt comparison. A psycho who wants to kill people and can't get a gun will use other things instead, like a truck or a pressure cooker bomb. You mean the pressure cooker bombs that killed 3 people in Boston? Yeah those things sure are as deadly as guns that kill dozens in minutes. The majority of mass shootings have fewer than 5 deaths. Does that include gang and drug violence? No https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shootings_in_the_United_States Even not counting the cases with no fatalities, there's extremely few cases where a mass shooter kills more than 3 people It's incredible that a developed country can even say that. Only a gun nut thinks that "The majority of mass shootings kill less than 5 people" being a good case for keeping guns so loosely regulated. Like jesus christ. Imagine someone saying that without a pinch of irony. A mass shooting by FBI definition is the killing of 4 or more people. So I'm not sure what definition you are using to claim that it's usually less than 4 people. You fabricate things as you go, eh? And this may come as a shock, but I own firearms. I conceal carry 99% of the time. So I'm not a "gun-hating liberal." I just also happen to have a grasp on reality. --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:896296605] in Gun nuts: ... [t:76331165]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Blbmbr666 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote>So in the same way immigration can't stop Islamic extremists, but could reduce their numbers, couldn't stricter gun laws reduce incidents of mass murder?</quote> I just wanna point out that your comparison is flawed. Immigration changes would stop the perpetrators of violence, a gun law would only make a tool harder to acquire instead of stopping the perpetrators.</quote> Depends on how you look at it. My point is reduction through increased difficulty. In that way, it's an apt comparison.</quote> A psycho who wants to kill people and can't get a gun will use other things instead, like a truck or a pressure cooker bomb. You mean the pressure cooker bombs that killed 3 people in Boston? Yeah those things sure are as deadly as guns that kill dozens in minutes.</quote> The majority of mass shootings have fewer than 5 deaths.</quote> Does that include gang and drug violence?</quote> No https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shootings_in_the_United_States Even not counting the cases with no fatalities, there's extremely few cases where a mass shooter kills more than 3 people</quote> It's incredible that a developed country can even say that. Only a gun nut thinks that "The majority of mass shootings kill less than 5 people" being a good case for keeping guns so loosely regulated. Like jesus christ. Imagine someone saying that without a pinch of irony. A mass shooting by FBI definition is the killing of 4 or more people. So I'm not sure what definition you are using to claim that it's usually less than 4 people. You fabricate things as you go, eh? And this may come as a shock, but I own firearms. I conceal carry 99% of the time. So I'm not a "gun-hating liberal." I just also happen to have a grasp on reality.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 02/18/18 2:32:16 AM #61:	Even homicide rate doesn't truly show the only impact when it comes to mass shootings. How many people experienced but survived these mass shootings in schools and massacres like Vegas? --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:896296890] in Gun nuts: ... [t:76331165]...</cite> <quote>Even homicide rate doesn't truly show the only impact when it comes to mass shootings. How many people experienced but survived these mass shootings in schools and massacres like Vegas?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 02/18/18 2:40:35 AM #62:	ChainedRedone posted... It's incredible that a developed country can even say that. Only a gun nut thinks that "The majority of mass shootings kill less than 5 people" being a good case for keeping guns so loosely regulated. You said the pressure cooker attack wasn't that bad because only 3 people died Most mass shootings don't have greater than 3 fatalities. Come on bro, focus on the argument at hand. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:896297193] in Gun nuts: ... [t:76331165]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote>It's incredible that a developed country can even say that. Only a gun nut thinks that "The majority of mass shootings kill less than 5 people" being a good case for keeping guns so loosely regulated. </quote> You said the pressure cooker attack wasn't that bad because only 3 people died Most mass shootings don't have greater than 3 fatalities. Come on bro, focus on the argument at hand.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChainedRedone 02/18/18 2:49:04 AM #64:	Sephiroth1288 posted... ChainedRedone posted... It's incredible that a developed country can even say that. Only a gun nut thinks that "The majority of mass shootings kill less than 5 people" being a good case for keeping guns so loosely regulated. You said the pressure cooker attack wasn't that bad because only 3 people died Most mass shootings don't have greater than 3 fatalities. Come on bro, focus on the argument at hand. Pressure cooker bombs are still much more difficult to make than buying a gun. If people would just as easily use pressure cookers, why don't those attack occur in developed countries like Australia? It's clear most psychotic people aren't going to go through much hassle. The hassle alone cuts down on the amount of mass killings if guns are unavailable. As we've seen in countries that have banned semiautos. --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:896297461] in Gun nuts: ... [t:76331165]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote>It's incredible that a developed country can even say that. Only a gun nut thinks that "The majority of mass shootings kill less than 5 people" being a good case for keeping guns so loosely regulated. </quote> You said the pressure cooker attack wasn't that bad because only 3 people died Most mass shootings don't have greater than 3 fatalities. Come on bro, focus on the argument at hand.</quote> Pressure cooker bombs are still much more difficult to make than buying a gun. If people would just as easily use pressure cookers, why don't those attack occur in developed countries like Australia? It's clear most psychotic people aren't going to go through much hassle. The hassle alone cuts down on the amount of mass killings if guns are unavailable. As we've seen in countries that have banned semiautos.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 02/18/18 3:10:57 AM #65:	ChainedRedone posted... Pressure cooker bombs are still much more difficult to make than buying a gun. No I'm pretty sure making a pressure cooker bomb is way more feasible for deranged teenagers than buying a $900+ rifle is. ChainedRedone posted... If people would just as easily use pressure cookers, why don't those attack occur in developed countries like Australia? Because Australia has 1/20th of our population and better mental health programs. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:896298107] in Gun nuts: ... [t:76331165]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote> Pressure cooker bombs are still much more difficult to make than buying a gun.</quote> No I'm pretty sure making a pressure cooker bomb is way more feasible for deranged teenagers than buying a $900+ rifle is. <cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote>If people would just as easily use pressure cookers, why don't those attack occur in developed countries like Australia?</quote> Because Australia has 1/20th of our population and better mental health programs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MaverickXeo 02/18/18 4:04:40 AM #66:	Samurontai posted... MaverickXeo posted... Also, there is this: http://theconversation.com/three-charts-on-australias-declining-homicide-rates-79654 A chart about half way through shows that knives are just as bad as firearms are. Therefore, should we ban knives as well? Should we ban being unarmed too, as being unarmed is one of the most common way to commit homicide? People who use the argument you are using are not good at arguing at all Tell me, when's the last time you peeled an apple with an AR-15? If you do not get my point, knives have many different uses. Guns literally only have one use So you do not deny that knives are far more dangerous than firearms? Guns have other uses as well other than illegal uses. Hunting, sport, etc. --- --- MaverickXeo --- <cite>MaverickXeo posted [p:896299356] in Gun nuts: ... [t:76331165]...</cite> <quote><cite>Samurontai posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MaverickXeo posted...</cite> <quote>Also, there is this: http://theconversation.com/three-charts-on-australias-declining-homicide-rates-79654 A chart about half way through shows that knives are just as bad as firearms are. Therefore, should we ban knives as well? Should we ban being unarmed too, as being unarmed is one of the most common way to commit homicide?</quote> People who use the argument you are using are not good at arguing at all Tell me, when's the last time you peeled an apple with an AR-15? If you do not get my point, knives have many different uses. Guns literally only have one use</quote> So you do not deny that knives are far more dangerous than firearms? Guns have other uses as well other than illegal uses. Hunting, sport, etc.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordRazziel 02/18/18 10:36:45 AM #67:	Why hasn't Mal answered the question so simple, he can't dance around it? Will a psycho that can't get a gun find another method every time? --- http://i.imgur.com/8pzUM.gif http://i.imgur.com/Oh1iujg.gif The only bad part about flying is having to come back down to the f***in' world ~Rat <cite>LordRazziel posted [p:896307956] in Gun nuts: ... [t:76331165]...</cite> <quote>Why hasn't Mal answered the question so simple, he can't dance around it? Will a psycho that can't get a gun find another method every time?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jumi 02/18/18 10:42:05 AM #68:	Sephiroth1288 posted... Ok let's talk about it. Tougher immigration laws would indeed prevent Islamic extremists from entering the country. What new law would have prevented this shooting? Tougher immigration laws will only keep good immigrants out. Bad guys will ignore the laws and still come in. See how that works? --- XBL Gamertag: Rob Thorsman Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/robertvsilvers <cite>jumi posted [p:896308132] in Gun nuts: ... [t:76331165]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote>Ok let's talk about it. Tougher immigration laws would indeed prevent Islamic extremists from entering the country. What new law would have prevented this shooting?</quote> Tougher immigration laws will only keep good immigrants out. Bad guys will ignore the laws and still come in. See how that works?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboLaserGandhi 02/18/18 10:42:58 AM #69:	I mean this hypocrisy goes EXACTLY EQUALLY the other way, lol Islamist terrorist attack happens "Islam isn't responsible for this you bigot, it's just the crazy ones" High school mass shooting happens "BAN GUNS! GUNS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS!" <cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted [p:896308165] in Gun nuts: ... [t:76331165]...</cite> <quote>I mean this hypocrisy goes EXACTLY EQUALLY the other way, lol Islamist terrorist attack happens "Islam isn't responsible for this you bigot, it's just the crazy ones" High school mass shooting happens "BAN GUNS! GUNS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LordRazziel 02/18/18 10:45:31 AM #71:	RoboLaserGandhi posted... I mean this hypocrisy goes EXACTLY EQUALLY the other way, lol Islamist terrorist attack happens "Islam isn't responsible for this you bigot, it's just the crazy ones" High school mass shooting happens "BAN GUNS! GUNS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS!" Who is saying ban guns? --- http://i.imgur.com/8pzUM.gif http://i.imgur.com/Oh1iujg.gif The only bad part about flying is having to come back down to the f**in' world ~Rat <cite>LordRazziel posted [p:896308273] in Gun nuts: ... [t:76331165]...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted...</cite> <quote>I mean this hypocrisy goes EXACTLY EQUALLY the other way, lol Islamist terrorist attack happens* "Islam isn't responsible for this you bigot, it's just the crazy ones" High school mass shooting happens "BAN GUNS! GUNS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS!"</quote> Who is saying ban guns?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboLaserGandhi 02/18/18 10:47:11 AM #72:	LordRazziel posted... RoboLaserGandhi posted... I mean this hypocrisy goes EXACTLY EQUALLY the other way, lol Islamist terrorist attack happens "Islam isn't responsible for this you bigot, it's just the crazy ones" High school mass shooting happens "BAN GUNS! GUNS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS!" Who is saying ban guns? A LOT of people... Mostly outside the US but I'd say at least a quarter of Americans hold that view. <cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted [p:896308339] in Gun nuts: ... [t:76331165]...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted...</cite> <quote>I mean this hypocrisy goes EXACTLY EQUALLY the other way, lol Islamist terrorist attack happens "Islam isn't responsible for this you bigot, it's just the crazy ones" High school mass shooting happens "BAN GUNS! GUNS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS!"</quote> Who is saying ban guns?</quote> A LOT of people... Mostly outside the US but I'd say at least a quarter of Americans hold that view.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordRazziel 02/18/18 10:51:07 AM #73:	RoboLaserGandhi posted... LordRazziel posted... RoboLaserGandhi posted... I mean this hypocrisy goes EXACTLY EQUALLY the other way, lol Islamist terrorist attack happens "Islam isn't responsible for this you bigot, it's just the crazy ones" High school mass shooting happens "BAN GUNS! GUNS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS!" Who is saying ban guns? A LOT of people... Mostly outside the US but I'd say at least a quarter of Americans hold that view. Still a straw man. --- http://i.imgur.com/8pzUM.gif http://i.imgur.com/Oh1iujg.gif The only bad part about flying is having to come back down to the f**in' world ~Rat <cite>LordRazziel posted [p:896308480] in Gun nuts: ... [t:76331165]...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted...</cite> <quote>I mean this hypocrisy goes EXACTLY EQUALLY the other way, lol Islamist terrorist attack happens* "Islam isn't responsible for this you bigot, it's just the crazy ones" High school mass shooting happens "BAN GUNS! GUNS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS!"</quote> Who is saying ban guns?</quote> A LOT of people... Mostly outside the US but I'd say at least a quarter of Americans hold that view.</quote> Still a straw man.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Deadpool_18 02/18/18 10:53:43 AM #74:	ChainedRedone posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... Ok let's talk about it. What new law would have prevented this shooting? Any ban on semiautomatic rifles likely would have. Australia had multiple mass shooting involving semiautl rifles and once they were banned, they stopped completely. But let me guess, "America is different and people will always shoot up schools no matter what" or something along those lines, right? Oh yeah. Ive had several moronic Facebook friends prove their ignorance to economics. --- We're whalers on the moon, we carry a harpoon, but there ain't no whales, so we tell tall tales, and sing our whaling tune. <cite>Deadpool_18 posted [p:896308567] in Gun nuts: ... [t:76331165]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote>Ok let's talk about it. What new law would have prevented this shooting?</quote> Any ban on semiautomatic rifles likely would have. Australia had multiple mass shooting involving semiautl rifles and once they were banned, they stopped completely. But let me guess, "America is different and people will always shoot up schools no matter what" or something along those lines, right?</quote> Oh yeah. Ive had several moronic Facebook friends prove their ignorance to economics.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChainedRedone 02/18/18 1:26:09 PM #75:	Sephiroth1288 posted... No I'm pretty sure making a pressure cooker bomb is way more feasible for deranged teenagers than buying a $900+ rifle is. If it is then why haven't any done it? The Boston bombers so far have been the only ones. --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:896315343] in Gun nuts: ... [t:76331165]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote>No I'm pretty sure making a pressure cooker bomb is way more feasible for deranged teenagers than buying a $900+ rifle is. </quote> If it is then why haven't any done it? The Boston bombers so far have been the only ones.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 02/18/18 9:09:55 PM #76:	Deadpool_18 posted... ChainedRedone posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... Ok let's talk about it. What new law would have prevented this shooting? Any ban on semiautomatic rifles likely would have. Australia had multiple mass shooting involving semiautl rifles and once they were banned, they stopped completely. But let me guess, "America is different and people will always shoot up schools no matter what" or something along those lines, right? Oh yeah. Ive had several moronic Facebook friends prove their ignorance to economics. You guys know that the worst school shooting in US history was committed with handguns, right? --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:896339497] in Gun nuts: ... [t:76331165]...</cite> <quote><cite>Deadpool_18 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote>Ok let's talk about it. What new law would have prevented this shooting?</quote> Any ban on semiautomatic rifles likely would have. Australia had multiple mass shooting involving semiautl rifles and once they were banned, they stopped completely. But let me guess, "America is different and people will always shoot up schools no matter what" or something along those lines, right?</quote> Oh yeah. Ive had several moronic Facebook friends prove their ignorance to economics.</quote> You guys know that the worst school shooting in US history was committed with handguns, right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
a42ozslushie 02/18/18 9:14:03 PM #77:	Liberals: We need ban guns. Think of the lives we could save. Liberals: Abortion should be legal. It's the mother's choice. --- \_o__/ <cite>a42ozslushie posted [p:896339720] in Gun nuts: ... [t:76331165]...</cite> <quote>Liberals: We need ban guns. Think of the lives we could save. Liberals: Abortion should be legal. It's the mother's choice.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChainedRedone 02/18/18 9:56:47 PM #78:	a42ozslushie posted... Liberals: We need ban guns. Think of the lives we could save. Liberals: Abortion should be legal. It's the mother's choice. Now that is a false dichotomy. --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:896341969] in Gun nuts: ... [t:76331165]...</cite> <quote><cite>a42ozslushie posted...</cite> <quote>Liberals: We need ban guns. Think of the lives we could save. Liberals: Abortion should be legal. It's the mother's choice.</quote> Now that is a false dichotomy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 02/18/18 11:35:48 PM #79:	ChainedRedone posted... a42ozslushie posted... Liberals: We need ban guns. Think of the lives we could save. Liberals: Abortion should be legal. It's the mother's choice. Now that is a false dichotomy. Only if you don't consider unborn to be alive. Which they are. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:896347354] in Gun nuts: ... [t:76331165]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>a42ozslushie posted...</cite> <quote>Liberals: We need ban guns. Think of the lives we could save. Liberals: Abortion should be legal. It's the mother's choice.</quote> Now that is a false dichotomy.</quote> Only if you don't consider unborn to be alive. Which they are.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordRazziel 02/18/18 11:56:25 PM #80:	Sephiroth1288 posted... ChainedRedone posted... a42ozslushie posted... Liberals: We need ban guns. Think of the lives we could save. Liberals: Abortion should be legal. It's the mother's choice. Now that is a false dichotomy. Only if you don't consider unborn to be alive. Which they are. Still just as whack as the pro-life/death penalty argument. --- http://i.imgur.com/8pzUM.gif http://i.imgur.com/Oh1iujg.gif The only bad part about flying is having to come back down to the f***in' world ~Rat <cite>LordRazziel posted [p:896348435] in Gun nuts: ... [t:76331165]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>a42ozslushie posted...</cite> <quote>Liberals: We need ban guns. Think of the lives we could save. Liberals: Abortion should be legal. It's the mother's choice.</quote> Now that is a false dichotomy.</quote> Only if you don't consider unborn to be alive. Which they are.</quote> Still just as whack as the pro-life/death penalty argument.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordRazziel 02/19/18 12:02:30 AM #81:	Sephiroth1288 posted... Deadpool_18 posted... ChainedRedone posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... Ok let's talk about it. What new law would have prevented this shooting? Any ban on semiautomatic rifles likely would have. Australia had multiple mass shooting involving semiautl rifles and once they were banned, they stopped completely. But let me guess, "America is different and people will always shoot up schools no matter what" or something along those lines, right? Oh yeah. Ive had several moronic Facebook friends prove their ignorance to economics. You guys know that the worst school shooting in US history was committed with handguns, right? Why make the $900 dollar assault rifle vs pressure cooker argument. Your logic is egregiously inconsistent. Not a matter of your intelligence. If only you would use that brain of yours more. It's a shame. --- http://i.imgur.com/8pzUM.gif http://i.imgur.com/Oh1iujg.gif The only bad part about flying is having to come back down to the f***in' world ~Rat <cite>LordRazziel posted [p:896348719] in Gun nuts: ... [t:76331165]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Deadpool_18 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote>Ok let's talk about it. What new law would have prevented this shooting?</quote> Any ban on semiautomatic rifles likely would have. Australia had multiple mass shooting involving semiautl rifles and once they were banned, they stopped completely. But let me guess, "America is different and people will always shoot up schools no matter what" or something along those lines, right?</quote> Oh yeah. Ive had several moronic Facebook friends prove their ignorance to economics.</quote> You guys know that the worst school shooting in US history was committed with handguns, right?</quote> Why make the $900 dollar assault rifle vs pressure cooker argument. Your logic is egregiously inconsistent. Not a matter of your intelligence. If only you would use that brain of yours more. It's a shame.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 02/19/18 2:26:53 AM #82:	LordRazziel posted... Why make the $900 dollar assault rifle vs pressure cooker argument. To point out that even if we poofed away all the guns that psychos are by no means less capable of killing as many people as are killed in the average mass shooting. The handguns point is in reference to a completely different string of argument unrelated to the one between me and you. Protip: don't accuse other people of being stupid when you yourself are the one who's confused. It makes you look even dumber than whatever your argument was. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:896354256] in Gun nuts: ... [t:76331165]...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote>Why make the $900 dollar assault rifle vs pressure cooker argument. </quote> To point out that even if we poofed away all the guns that psychos are by no means less capable of killing as many people as are killed in the average mass shooting. The handguns point is in reference to a completely different string of argument unrelated to the one between me and you. Protip: don't accuse other people of being stupid when you yourself are the one who's confused. It makes you look even dumber than whatever your argument was.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChainedRedone 02/19/18 6:23:51 AM #83:	Sephiroth1288 posted... ChainedRedone posted... a42ozslushie posted... Liberals: We need ban guns. Think of the lives we could save. Liberals: Abortion should be legal. It's the mother's choice. Now that is a false dichotomy. Only if you don't consider unborn to be alive. Which they are. It's a false dichotomy because abortion is considered justifiable. Has nothing to do whether they are alive. Only whether you believe a human should have the right to terminate bodily housing another. --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:896359122] in Gun nuts: ... [t:76331165]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>a42ozslushie posted...</cite> <quote>Liberals: We need ban guns. Think of the lives we could save. Liberals: Abortion should be legal. It's the mother's choice.</quote> Now that is a false dichotomy.</quote> Only if you don't consider unborn to be alive. Which they are.</quote> It's a false dichotomy because abortion is considered justifiable. Has nothing to do whether they are alive. Only whether you believe a human should have the right to terminate bodily housing another.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 02/19/18 6:44:59 AM #84:	How many shootings have been prevented by abortion? How many more could have been prevented if females didnt have to be afraid of even getting close to an abortion clinic? Would Americans accept abortions if they were done with guns or if you got a free gun per visit? --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:896359490] in Gun nuts: ... [t:76331165]...</cite> <quote>How many shootings have been prevented by abortion? How many more could have been prevented if females didnt have to be afraid of even getting close to an abortion clinic? Would Americans accept abortions if they were done with guns or if you got a free gun per visit?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chrono625 02/19/18 6:46:30 AM #85:	ChainedRedone posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... Ok let's talk about it. What new law would have prevented this shooting? Any ban on semiautomatic rifles likely would have. Australia had multiple mass shooting involving semiautl rifles and once they were banned, they stopped completely. But let me guess, "America is different and people will always shoot up schools no matter what" or something along those lines, right? A semi-auto AR-15 is no different than a 9mm pistol. Most of homicides by guns is done with pistols. So that's not really a solution. --- http://i.imgur.com/Rqk1DYV.gif - Super Bowl XXI/XXV/XLII/XLVI Champions - NY Giants Eli Manning SB tracker: 2/2 Superbowls 2/2 SBMVP's <cite>chrono625 posted [p:896359515] in Gun nuts: ... [t:76331165]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote>Ok let's talk about it. What new law would have prevented this shooting?</quote> Any ban on semiautomatic rifles likely would have. Australia had multiple mass shooting involving semiautl rifles and once they were banned, they stopped completely. But let me guess, "America is different and people will always shoot up schools no matter what" or something along those lines, right?</quote> A semi-auto AR-15 is no different than a 9mm pistol. Most of homicides by guns is done with pistols. So that's not really a solution.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NINExATExSEVEN 02/19/18 7:16:44 AM #86:	Well both should be tackled no? --- Listen to my story... This... May be our last chance... <cite>NINExATExSEVEN posted [p:896359996] in Gun nuts: ... [t:76331165]...</cite> <quote>Well both should be tackled no?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chrono625 02/19/18 7:20:49 AM #87:	NINExATExSEVEN posted... Well both should be tackled no? I'm not going to go into a debate about what should be done, because it isn't a black and white issue. Just banning one and not others when they are inherently the same thing, isn't a solution. Banning all guns is another issue because it requires an amendment to the constitution that, likely, will not happen. The amendments are for adding rights, not revoking them. That's just opening up a huge can of worms. It's just a sad state of the world we're living in that we even need to have these discussions. --- http://i.imgur.com/Rqk1DYV.gif - Super Bowl XXI/XXV/XLII/XLVI Champions - NY Giants Eli Manning SB tracker: 2/2 Superbowls 2/2 SBMVP's <cite>chrono625 posted [p:896360064] in Gun nuts: ... [t:76331165]...</cite> <quote><cite>NINExATExSEVEN posted...</cite> <quote>Well both should be tackled no?</quote> I'm not going to go into a debate about what should be done, because it isn't a black and white issue. Just banning one and not others when they are inherently the same thing, isn't a solution. Banning all guns is another issue because it requires an amendment to the constitution that, likely, will not happen. The amendments are for adding rights, not revoking them. That's just opening up a huge can of worms. It's just a sad state of the world we're living in that we even need to have these discussions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordRazziel 02/19/18 10:37:53 AM #88:	Sephiroth1288 posted... LordRazziel posted... Why make the $900 dollar assault rifle vs pressure cooker argument. To point out that even if we poofed away all the guns that psychos are by no means less capable of killing as many people as are killed in the average mass shooting. The handguns point is in reference to a completely different string of argument unrelated to the one between me and you. Protip: don't accuse other people of being stupid when you yourself are the one who's confused. It makes you look even dumber than whatever your argument was. I never said you were stupid, I made that clear. You're argument was that it was easier to use a pressure cooker than an assault rifle. If that's true, then why are most mass shootings done with a hand gun, when that's much, much easier? Again, I really don't think you're stupid. I think you are intelligent, which is why it's a shame you don't use you're head. You often let your personal, partisan politics influnce your thinking. There are many times where you use logic that you criticise others for using, you often ghost topics and ignore questions - all while touting yourself to be superior and not prone to any flawed thinking. I've never seen you rethink your position. You're right, simply because you're right. --- http://i.imgur.com/8pzUM.gif http://i.imgur.com/Oh1iujg.gif The only bad part about flying is having to come back down to the f***in' world ~Rat <cite>LordRazziel posted [p:896366361] in Gun nuts: ... [t:76331165]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote>Why make the $900 dollar assault rifle vs pressure cooker argument. </quote> To point out that even if we poofed away all the guns that psychos are by no means less capable of killing as many people as are killed in the average mass shooting. The handguns point is in reference to a completely different string of argument unrelated to the one between me and you. Protip: don't accuse other people of being stupid when you yourself are the one who's confused. It makes you look even dumber than whatever your argument was.</quote> I never said you were stupid, I made that clear. You're argument was that it was easier to use a pressure cooker than an assault rifle. If that's true, then why are most mass shootings done with a hand gun, when that's much, much easier? Again, I really don't think you're stupid. I think you are intelligent, which is why it's a shame you don't use you're head. You often let your personal, partisan politics influnce your thinking. There are many times where you use logic that you criticise others for using, you often ghost topics and ignore questions - all while touting yourself to be superior and not prone to any flawed thinking. I've never seen you rethink your position. You're right, simply because you're right.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 02/19/18 11:05:47 AM #89:	LordRazziel posted... You're argument was that it was easier to use a pressure cooker than an assault rifle. If that's true, then why are most mass shootings done with a hand gun, when that's much, much easier? No idea. But we do know an improvised bomb is easily made and can kill as many people as could in a mass shooting. LordRazziel posted... Again, I really don't think you're stupid. I think you are intelligent, which is why it's a shame you don't use you're head. Protip: don't accuse people of not using their head as you use "you're" instead of "your". LordRazziel posted... There are many times where you use logic that you criticise others for using, you often ghost topics and ignore questions - all while touting yourself to be superior and not prone to any flawed thinking. Look I won't "ghost" out of topics where people back up their arguments with empirical data. But it's always the same flawed arguments over and over again with no factual basis. "America has the most mass shootings of all developed countries", not even close, when you look at the data per capita. "Gun bans decreased homicides in Australia", they didn't, the ban didn't affect the downward trend of their homicide rate at all. "Banning AR-15s would stop mass shootings", a tiny minority of mass shootings are committed with rifles. "Gun control would save lives", there has never been any study showing a casual correlation between gun control and less murders. I can, and have, shown all these things to be true with real evidence, and the usual crap I get in response is "Don't you care about the kids??" I already waste enough of my life shitposting on a video game message board; not gonna waste more of it on useless discussions. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:896367637] in Gun nuts: ... [t:76331165]...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote>You're argument was that it was easier to use a pressure cooker than an assault rifle. If that's true, then why are most mass shootings done with a hand gun, when that's much, much easier?</quote> No idea. But we do know an improvised bomb is easily made and can kill as many people as could in a mass shooting. <cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote>Again, I really don't think you're stupid. I think you are intelligent, which is why it's a shame you don't use you're head.</quote> Protip: don't accuse people of not using their head as you use "you're" instead of "your". <cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote> There are many times where you use logic that you criticise others for using, you often ghost topics and ignore questions - all while touting yourself to be superior and not prone to any flawed thinking.</quote> Look I won't "ghost" out of topics where people back up their arguments with empirical data. But it's always the same flawed arguments over and over again with no factual basis. "America has the most mass shootings of all developed countries", not even close, when you look at the data per capita. "Gun bans decreased homicides in Australia", they didn't, the ban didn't affect the downward trend of their homicide rate at all. "Banning AR-15s would stop mass shootings", a tiny minority of mass shootings are committed with rifles. "Gun control would save lives", there has never been any study showing a casual correlation between gun control and less murders. I can, and have, shown all these things to be true with real evidence, and the usual crap I get in response is "Don't you care about the kids??" I already waste enough of my life shitposting on a video game message board; not gonna waste more of it on useless discussions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordRazziel 02/19/18 11:16:16 AM #90:	Made a typo, you totally rekt me. I agree with your point on the "don't you care about kids?!" argument. I even defended you on that in the other topic. Darkman often throws empirical data at you and uses logic stronger than you're own. Not saying that means you have to change your stance, but you don't make any indication that you even bothered to rethink your stance. --- http://i.imgur.com/8pzUM.gif http://i.imgur.com/Oh1iujg.gif The only bad part about flying is having to come back down to the f***in' world ~Rat <cite>LordRazziel posted [p:896368188] in Gun nuts: ... [t:76331165]...</cite> <quote>Made a typo, you totally rekt me. I agree with your point on the "don't you care about kids?!" argument. I even defended you on that in the other topic. Darkman often throws empirical data at you and uses logic stronger than you're own. Not saying that means you have to change your stance, but you don't make any indication that you even bothered to rethink your stance.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChainedRedone 02/19/18 12:39:33 PM #91:	"A bomb is easily made even though I don't know how to make one I know it's easier than shooting people" Okay dude lol --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:896373094] in Gun nuts: ... [t:76331165]...</cite> <quote>"A bomb is easily made even though I don't know how to make one I know it's easier than shooting people" Okay dude lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheShadowViper 02/19/18 12:53:04 PM #92:	LordRazziel posted... Blbmbr666 posted... LordRazziel posted... That's just school shootings, not all mass shootings. What is a mass shooting to you, more than 2, evidently. Guess I can't directly refute that, but to me, you need more. Also, will a psycho that can't get a gun find another method every time? I'm not a psychologist, but if you're mentally unstable enough to want to kill people that badly, not getting a gun isn't gonna stop you. Nor am I, but people who are mentally unstable enough to want to commit suicide are more likely to do so if there is a gun in the house. That says something, I think. Post research of this statement. Many of the country's with the top suicide rates in the world have some of the most stringent gun control, and they simply have a different primary means of suicide. So what you are basically saying is that you have a problem that people opt to choose a relatively painless way to die as opposed to other ways. Wow, strikingly unimportant statement! If your statement was accurate, explain why the highest guns per capita in the WORLD is #48 on the list of suicide rates. Because according to your twisted logic, more access to guns means a higher chance of suicide no? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_by_suicide_rate <cite>TheShadowViper posted [p:896373810] in Gun nuts: ... [t:76331165]...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Blbmbr666 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote>That's just school shootings, not all mass shootings. What is a mass shooting to you, more than 2, evidently. Guess I can't directly refute that, but to me, you need more. Also, will a psycho that can't get a gun find another method every time?</quote> I'm not a psychologist, but if you're mentally unstable enough to want to kill people that badly, not getting a gun isn't gonna stop you.</quote> Nor am I, but people who are mentally unstable enough to want to commit suicide are more likely to do so if there is a gun in the house. That says something, I think.</quote> Post research of this statement. Many of the country's with the top suicide rates in the world have some of the most stringent gun control, and they simply have a different primary means of suicide. So what you are basically saying is that you have a problem that people opt to choose a relatively painless way to die as opposed to other ways. Wow, strikingly unimportant statement! If your statement was accurate, explain why the highest guns per capita in the WORLD is #48 on the list of suicide rates. Because according to your twisted logic, more access to guns means a higher chance of suicide no? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_by_suicide_rate</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChainedRedone 02/19/18 1:14:20 PM #93:	Suicide is the most prominent factor that decreased following gun bans in Australia. It amazes me gun lovers can't grasp simple concepts. --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:896374993] in Gun nuts: ... [t:76331165]...</cite> <quote>Suicide is the most prominent factor that decreased following gun bans in Australia. It amazes me gun lovers can't grasp simple concepts.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordRazziel 02/19/18 1:18:15 PM #94:	TheShadowViper posted... LordRazziel posted... Blbmbr666 posted... LordRazziel posted... That's just school shootings, not all mass shootings. What is a mass shooting to you, more than 2, evidently. Guess I can't directly refute that, but to me, you need more. Also, will a psycho that can't get a gun find another method every time? I'm not a psychologist, but if you're mentally unstable enough to want to kill people that badly, not getting a gun isn't gonna stop you. Nor am I, but people who are mentally unstable enough to want to commit suicide are more likely to do so if there is a gun in the house. That says something, I think. Post research of this statement. Many of the country's with the top suicide rates in the world have some of the most stringent gun control, and they simply have a different primary means of suicide. So what you are basically saying is that you have a problem that people opt to choose a relatively painless way to die as opposed to other ways. Wow, strikingly unimportant statement! If your statement was accurate, explain why the highest guns per capita in the WORLD is #48 on the list of suicide rates. Because according to your twisted logic, more access to guns means a higher chance of suicide no? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_by_suicide_rate Can you tell me where I mentioned gun control? http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/01/21/gun-ownership-tied-to-three-fold-increase-in-suicide-risk.html --- http://i.imgur.com/8pzUM.gif http://i.imgur.com/Oh1iujg.gif The only bad part about flying is having to come back down to the f***in' world ~Rat <cite>LordRazziel posted [p:896375183] in Gun nuts: ... [t:76331165]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheShadowViper posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Blbmbr666 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote>That's just school shootings, not all mass shootings. What is a mass shooting to you, more than 2, evidently. Guess I can't directly refute that, but to me, you need more. Also, will a psycho that can't get a gun find another method every time?</quote> I'm not a psychologist, but if you're mentally unstable enough to want to kill people that badly, not getting a gun isn't gonna stop you.</quote> Nor am I, but people who are mentally unstable enough to want to commit suicide are more likely to do so if there is a gun in the house. That says something, I think.</quote> Post research of this statement. Many of the country's with the top suicide rates in the world have some of the most stringent gun control, and they simply have a different primary means of suicide. So what you are basically saying is that you have a problem that people opt to choose a relatively painless way to die as opposed to other ways. Wow, strikingly unimportant statement! If your statement was accurate, explain why the highest guns per capita in the WORLD is #48 on the list of suicide rates. Because according to your twisted logic, more access to guns means a higher chance of suicide no? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_by_suicide_rate</quote> Can you tell me where I mentioned gun control? http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/01/21/gun-ownership-tied-to-three-fold-increase-in-suicide-risk.html</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MaverickXeo 02/19/18 2:18:13 PM #95:	LordRazziel posted... TheShadowViper posted... LordRazziel posted... Blbmbr666 posted... LordRazziel posted... That's just school shootings, not all mass shootings. What is a mass shooting to you, more than 2, evidently. Guess I can't directly refute that, but to me, you need more. Also, will a psycho that can't get a gun find another method every time? I'm not a psychologist, but if you're mentally unstable enough to want to kill people that badly, not getting a gun isn't gonna stop you. Nor am I, but people who are mentally unstable enough to want to commit suicide are more likely to do so if there is a gun in the house. That says something, I think. Post research of this statement. Many of the country's with the top suicide rates in the world have some of the most stringent gun control, and they simply have a different primary means of suicide. So what you are basically saying is that you have a problem that people opt to choose a relatively painless way to die as opposed to other ways. Wow, strikingly unimportant statement! If your statement was accurate, explain why the highest guns per capita in the WORLD is #48 on the list of suicide rates. Because according to your twisted logic, more access to guns means a higher chance of suicide no? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_by_suicide_rate Can you tell me where I mentioned gun control? http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/01/21/gun-ownership-tied-to-three-fold-increase-in-suicide-risk.html Suicide has to have several factors to occur. Having the means does not mean suicide will happen. In other words, guns do not cause people to kill themselves. --- --- MaverickXeo --- <cite>MaverickXeo posted [p:896378542] in Gun nuts: ... [t:76331165]...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheShadowViper posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Blbmbr666 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote>That's just school shootings, not all mass shootings. What is a mass shooting to you, more than 2, evidently. Guess I can't directly refute that, but to me, you need more. Also, will a psycho that can't get a gun find another method every time?</quote> I'm not a psychologist, but if you're mentally unstable enough to want to kill people that badly, not getting a gun isn't gonna stop you.</quote> Nor am I, but people who are mentally unstable enough to want to commit suicide are more likely to do so if there is a gun in the house. That says something, I think.</quote> Post research of this statement. Many of the country's with the top suicide rates in the world have some of the most stringent gun control, and they simply have a different primary means of suicide. So what you are basically saying is that you have a problem that people opt to choose a relatively painless way to die as opposed to other ways. Wow, strikingly unimportant statement! If your statement was accurate, explain why the highest guns per capita in the WORLD is #48 on the list of suicide rates. Because according to your twisted logic, more access to guns means a higher chance of suicide no? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_by_suicide_rate</quote> Can you tell me where I mentioned gun control? http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/01/21/gun-ownership-tied-to-three-fold-increase-in-suicide-risk.html</quote> Suicide has to have several factors to occur. Having the means does not mean suicide will happen. In other words, guns do not cause people to kill themselves.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChainedRedone 02/19/18 2:37:05 PM #97:	MaverickXeo posted... LordRazziel posted... TheShadowViper posted... LordRazziel posted... Blbmbr666 posted... LordRazziel posted... That's just school shootings, not all mass shootings. What is a mass shooting to you, more than 2, evidently. Guess I can't directly refute that, but to me, you need more. Also, will a psycho that can't get a gun find another method every time? I'm not a psychologist, but if you're mentally unstable enough to want to kill people that badly, not getting a gun isn't gonna stop you. Nor am I, but people who are mentally unstable enough to want to commit suicide are more likely to do so if there is a gun in the house. That says something, I think. Post research of this statement. Many of the country's with the top suicide rates in the world have some of the most stringent gun control, and they simply have a different primary means of suicide. So what you are basically saying is that you have a problem that people opt to choose a relatively painless way to die as opposed to other ways. Wow, strikingly unimportant statement! If your statement was accurate, explain why the highest guns per capita in the WORLD is #48 on the list of suicide rates. Because according to your twisted logic, more access to guns means a higher chance of suicide no? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_by_suicide_rate Can you tell me where I mentioned gun control? http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/01/21/gun-ownership-tied-to-three-fold-increase-in-suicide-risk.html Suicide has to have several factors to occur. Having the means does not mean suicide will happen. In other words, guns do not cause people to kill themselves. No kidding. But guns will make it more likely. Australia's suicide rate dropped dramatically. Why do you have so much trouble acknowledging well-known facts? Your argument is basically "There are people who own guns that don't kill themselves." No shit. It reeks of desperation. --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:896379563] in Gun nuts: ... [t:76331165]...</cite> <quote><cite>MaverickXeo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheShadowViper posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Blbmbr666 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote>That's just school shootings, not all mass shootings. What is a mass shooting to you, more than 2, evidently. Guess I can't directly refute that, but to me, you need more. Also, will a psycho that can't get a gun find another method every time?</quote> I'm not a psychologist, but if you're mentally unstable enough to want to kill people that badly, not getting a gun isn't gonna stop you.</quote> Nor am I, but people who are mentally unstable enough to want to commit suicide are more likely to do so if there is a gun in the house. That says something, I think.</quote> Post research of this statement. Many of the country's with the top suicide rates in the world have some of the most stringent gun control, and they simply have a different primary means of suicide. So what you are basically saying is that you have a problem that people opt to choose a relatively painless way to die as opposed to other ways. Wow, strikingly unimportant statement! If your statement was accurate, explain why the highest guns per capita in the WORLD is #48 on the list of suicide rates. Because according to your twisted logic, more access to guns means a higher chance of suicide no? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_by_suicide_rate</quote> Can you tell me where I mentioned gun control? http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/01/21/gun-ownership-tied-to-three-fold-increase-in-suicide-risk.html</quote> Suicide has to have several factors to occur. Having the means does not mean suicide will happen. In other words, guns do not cause people to kill themselves.</quote> No kidding. But guns will make it more likely. Australia's suicide rate dropped dramatically. Why do you have so much trouble acknowledging well-known facts? Your argument is basically "There are people who own guns that don't kill themselves." No shit. It reeks of desperation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MaverickXeo 02/19/18 3:08:21 PM #98:	ChainedRedone posted... MaverickXeo posted... LordRazziel posted... TheShadowViper posted... LordRazziel posted... Blbmbr666 posted... LordRazziel posted... That's just school shootings, not all mass shootings. What is a mass shooting to you, more than 2, evidently. Guess I can't directly refute that, but to me, you need more. Also, will a psycho that can't get a gun find another method every time? I'm not a psychologist, but if you're mentally unstable enough to want to kill people that badly, not getting a gun isn't gonna stop you. Nor am I, but people who are mentally unstable enough to want to commit suicide are more likely to do so if there is a gun in the house. That says something, I think. Post research of this statement. Many of the country's with the top suicide rates in the world have some of the most stringent gun control, and they simply have a different primary means of suicide. So what you are basically saying is that you have a problem that people opt to choose a relatively painless way to die as opposed to other ways. Wow, strikingly unimportant statement! If your statement was accurate, explain why the highest guns per capita in the WORLD is #48 on the list of suicide rates. Because according to your twisted logic, more access to guns means a higher chance of suicide no? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_by_suicide_rate Can you tell me where I mentioned gun control? http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/01/21/gun-ownership-tied-to-three-fold-increase-in-suicide-risk.html Suicide has to have several factors to occur. Having the means does not mean suicide will happen. In other words, guns do not cause people to kill themselves. No kidding. But guns will make it more likely. Australia's suicide rate dropped dramatically. Why do you have so much trouble acknowledging well-known facts? Your argument is basically "There are people who own guns that don't kill themselves." No shit. It reeks of desperation. Do you have any evidence to support the suicide rate dropping? The 'gun ban' in Australia did not make much of a dent in homicides in Australia overall, so I'd like to see that statistic. --- --- MaverickXeo --- <cite>MaverickXeo posted [p:896381349] in Gun nuts: ... [t:76331165]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MaverickXeo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheShadowViper posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Blbmbr666 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote>That's just school shootings, not all mass shootings. What is a mass shooting to you, more than 2, evidently. Guess I can't directly refute that, but to me, you need more. Also, will a psycho that can't get a gun find another method every time?</quote> I'm not a psychologist, but if you're mentally unstable enough to want to kill people that badly, not getting a gun isn't gonna stop you.</quote> Nor am I, but people who are mentally unstable enough to want to commit suicide are more likely to do so if there is a gun in the house. That says something, I think.</quote> Post research of this statement. Many of the country's with the top suicide rates in the world have some of the most stringent gun control, and they simply have a different primary means of suicide. So what you are basically saying is that you have a problem that people opt to choose a relatively painless way to die as opposed to other ways. Wow, strikingly unimportant statement! If your statement was accurate, explain why the highest guns per capita in the WORLD is #48 on the list of suicide rates. Because according to your twisted logic, more access to guns means a higher chance of suicide no? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_by_suicide_rate</quote> Can you tell me where I mentioned gun control? http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/01/21/gun-ownership-tied-to-three-fold-increase-in-suicide-risk.html</quote> Suicide has to have several factors to occur. Having the means does not mean suicide will happen. In other words, guns do not cause people to kill themselves.</quote> No kidding. But guns will make it more likely. Australia's suicide rate dropped dramatically. Why do you have so much trouble acknowledging well-known facts? Your argument is basically "There are people who own guns that don't kill themselves." No shit. It reeks of desperation.</quote> Do you have any evidence to support the suicide rate dropping? The 'gun ban' in Australia did not make much of a dent in homicides in Australia overall, so I'd like to see that statistic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darksaber310 02/19/18 3:18:23 PM #99:	Suicides did drop, but there was also a robust mental health system at that time that continues into today. It's ridiculous to credit one over the other because it helps your case. If it were just the bans then you'd see startling drops in gun free cities. --- Once again snatching defeat, From the jaws of victory. <cite>Darksaber310 posted [p:896381891] in Gun nuts: ... [t:76331165]...</cite> <quote>Suicides did drop, but there was also a robust mental health system at that time that continues into today. It's ridiculous to credit one over the other because it helps your case. If it were just the bans then you'd see startling drops in gun free cities.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 02/19/18 3:29:40 PM #100:	It is a cultural problem that doesnt got any black and white solution. We need multiple different costly projects that will take years before we see a change, it exist no magical solution that will work 24 hours after it is decided. --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:896382462] in Gun nuts: ... [t:76331165]...</cite> <quote>It is a cultural problem that doesnt got any black and white solution. We need multiple different costly projects that will take years before we see a change, it exist no magical solution that will work 24 hours after it is decided.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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