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Will446
02/16/18 12:12:50 PM
#1:


Needless to say the guy messed up three times.

Guys this is why you should expect to be drunk in your room the blue coats will make you come out and execute you.

The video is courtesy of the LA times

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Omegle
02/16/18 12:16:05 PM
#2:


This guy sounds like he's enjoying having this kind of power over these people.

Sickening.
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sumuthergamer
02/16/18 12:18:17 PM
#3:


Old video

If you want some context:
The guy was drunk and was shooting an airsoft gun out his window. The cops thought he was armed and dangerous, and were trying to make sure he wouldn't quickly pull out a gun and fire.
But their directions were ridiculous and stupid and definitely led to that man's death.
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spudger
02/16/18 12:19:03 PM
#5:


Omegle posted...
This guy sounds like he's enjoying having this kind of power over these people.

Sickening.

literally every cop. studies have been done.

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Will446
02/16/18 12:19:44 PM
#6:


Omegle posted...
This guy sounds like he's enjoying having this kind of power over these people.

Sickening.


The officer has an engraving on the rifle with the words, Youre fucked

sumuthergamer posted...
Old video


Its coming up again because hes appealing and suing to be reinstated to the police force
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TheVipaGTS
02/16/18 12:20:12 PM
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and somehow he was let off for that...power trip, contradicting what he wanted the man today, forced him to crawl like an animal instead of apprehending him while he was down....gets off free for murder....
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BillyKidd
02/16/18 12:20:33 PM
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just think, what would have happened if he never pointed a gun out of the hotel window.
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spudger
02/16/18 12:21:11 PM
#9:


Will446 posted...
Its coming up again because hes appealing and suing to be reinstated to the police force

jfc. what delusion makes him think he can do so?
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TheVipaGTS
02/16/18 12:21:26 PM
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BillyKidd posted...
just think, what would have happened if he never pointed a gun out of the hotel window.

fuck off.
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Patchwork
02/16/18 12:22:00 PM
#11:


spudger posted...
Omegle posted...
This guy sounds like he's enjoying having this kind of power over these people.

Sickening.

literally every cop. studies have been done.

tyrants with badges


Where those studies at, hoss?
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BillyKidd
02/16/18 12:23:29 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
BillyKidd posted...
just think, what would have happened if he never pointed a gun out of the hotel window.

fuck off.


me? You're the one that wants the police to come up to a blind corner to affect the arrest.
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TheGrindery
02/16/18 12:25:22 PM
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That cop should be in solitary confinement while listening to the dial-up noise on repeat forever.
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Patchwork
02/16/18 12:25:30 PM
#14:


BillyKidd posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
BillyKidd posted...
just think, what would have happened if he never pointed a gun out of the hotel window.

fuck off.


me? You're the one that wants the police to come up to a blind corner to affect the arrest.


Tactically, that was an easy situation to resolve. Stand him up, make him turn around with his hands in the air, and walk him back toward your voice. Talk him to the ground, effect cover and contact arrest.

That cop is a fucking moron, and he should've been convicted.
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TheVipaGTS
02/16/18 12:26:32 PM
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BillyKidd posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
BillyKidd posted...
just think, what would have happened if he never pointed a gun out of the hotel window.

fuck off.


me? You're the one that wants the police to come up to a blind corner to affect the arrest.

blind corner? he had the suspect down with his hands in plain view...the smart thing to do would be to go apprehend him...or have him approach you in a better way...you know, like most cops would. "keep your hands up!....ok now crawl and if you fall you fall on your face!"...this man was clearly on a power trip, constantly demanding he do pointless shit (once he was down and gave himself up that should have been it)...and then you come in with that post.."hurr durr what would have happened if he didn't do that!"....none of that excuses the cops behavior here....
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MC_BatCommander
02/16/18 12:26:58 PM
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That video is really rough, the guy is obviously scared and inebriated... Tries his best to comply with really confusing instructions and still gets killed.
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TrueNeutral
02/16/18 12:27:34 PM
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Liberals: Negative stereotypes are bad!!!

Also liberals: A small minority of cops are assholes? They're ALL evil!!!
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spudger
02/16/18 12:27:55 PM
#18:


always one fool defending a murderer
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Omegle
02/16/18 12:28:31 PM
#19:


TrueNeutral posted...
Liberals: Negative stereotypes are bad!!!

Also liberals: A small minority of cops are assholes? They're ALL evil!!!

Conservative: All people who hold opinion I don't like are stupid liberal!
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TheVipaGTS
02/16/18 12:29:42 PM
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Omegle posted...
TrueNeutral posted...
Liberals: Negative stereotypes are bad!!!

Also liberals: A small minority of cops are assholes? They're ALL evil!!!

Conservative: All people who hold opinion I don't like are stupid liberal!

in b4 he says "i'm not even a conservative"
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_OujiDoza_
02/16/18 12:31:17 PM
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TrueNeutral posted...
Also liberals: A small minority of cops are assholes? They're ALL evil!!!

That small minority is allowed to be pieces of shit because the large majority of "good cops" never stand up against them.

Then, in THE EXACT SAME BREATH, they ridicule folks in the hood for not ratting out criminals, most of the time because those in the hood are scared to death of retaliation. The worst that could happen to a cop that does the same is they have to go find a new job, not get sized-up for a coffin.
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spudger
02/16/18 12:32:30 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
Omegle posted...
TrueNeutral posted...
Liberals: Negative stereotypes are bad!!!

Also liberals: A small minority of cops are assholes? They're ALL evil!!!

Conservative: All people who hold opinion I don't like are stupid liberal!

in b4 he says "i'm not even a conservative"

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BillyKidd
02/16/18 12:34:06 PM
#23:


TheVipaGTS posted...
BillyKidd posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
BillyKidd posted...
just think, what would have happened if he never pointed a gun out of the hotel window.

fuck off.


me? You're the one that wants the police to come up to a blind corner to affect the arrest.

blind corner? he had the suspect down with his hands in plain view...the smart thing to do would be to go apprehend him...you know, like most cops would. this man was clearly on a power trip, constantly demanding he do pointless shit (once he was down and gave himself up that should have been it)...and then you come in with that post.."hurr durr what would have happened if he didn't do that!"....none of that excuses the cops behavior here....


Try again. They came out of a hotel room on the right. When the police finally approach the suspect's hotel room, the body cam shows there were 2 doors right around that blind spot. Again wrong, in calls of known gun, most police have suspect come towards them.
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refmon
02/16/18 12:35:03 PM
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sumuthergamer posted...
The guy was drunk and was shooting an airsoft gun out his window. The cops thought he was armed and dangerous, and were trying to make sure he wouldn't quickly pull out a gun and fire.

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TheVipaGTS
02/16/18 12:36:54 PM
#25:


BillyKidd posted...
Try again. They came out of a hotel room on the right. When the police finally approach the suspect's hotel room, the body cam shows there were 2 doors right around that blind spot. Again wrong, in calls of known gun, most police have suspect come towards them.

none of that still justifies how this cop behaved or how he had the suspect come towards him...how can you defend that? You KNOW there are better ways to do it. you KNOW the cop acted terribly here...but you just can't admit. Just blame the guy who got shot and move on...
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sumuthergamer
02/16/18 12:37:00 PM
#26:


refmon posted...
sumuthergamer posted...
The guy was drunk and was shooting an airsoft gun out his window. The cops thought he was armed and dangerous, and were trying to make sure he wouldn't quickly pull out a gun and fire.


You left out the rest of what I said.
The cops still did a ridiculously bad job of it.
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Patchwork
02/16/18 12:37:37 PM
#27:


BillyKidd posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
BillyKidd posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
BillyKidd posted...
just think, what would have happened if he never pointed a gun out of the hotel window.

fuck off.


me? You're the one that wants the police to come up to a blind corner to affect the arrest.

blind corner? he had the suspect down with his hands in plain view...the smart thing to do would be to go apprehend him...you know, like most cops would. this man was clearly on a power trip, constantly demanding he do pointless shit (once he was down and gave himself up that should have been it)...and then you come in with that post.."hurr durr what would have happened if he didn't do that!"....none of that excuses the cops behavior here....


Try again. They came out of a hotel room on the right. When the police finally approach the suspect's hotel room, the body cam shows there were 2 doors right around that blind spot. Again wrong, in calls of known gun, most police have suspect come towards them.


Yeah. Smart cops would. Standing. Don't waste your breath defending this scumbag.
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orcus_snake
02/16/18 12:40:23 PM
#28:


BillyKidd posted...
just think, what would have happened if he never pointed a gun out of the hotel window.


Then we would not have another isolated case of pig officers excersising execution rights due to people stupidity.
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Patchwork
02/16/18 12:41:08 PM
#29:


orcus_snake posted...
BillyKidd posted...
just think, what would have happened if he never pointed a gun out of the hotel window.


Then we would not have another isolated case of pig officers excersising execution rights due to people stupidity.


Speaking of stupidity...
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Will446
02/16/18 12:41:30 PM
#30:


TrueNeutral posted...
Liberals: Negative stereotypes are bad!!!

Also liberals: A small minority of cops are assholes? They're ALL evil!!!


Im a conservative and a die heart Republican. Sometimes you got to go through an experience like this to understand. The police are not always right.

Once I was stopped by the police in Chicago when Walking home from the bus stop. The officer saw my Marine Corps book bag that I got from MCRD San Diego when I went to boot camp there and told me he hates the military and republicans and how he wants to kill them and how hes going to kill me.

Most people didnt believe this happened to me. However when this same officer was caught in video shooting a suspect 16 times and is in the news in Chicago.
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Rexdragon125
02/16/18 12:43:57 PM
#31:


There are a lot of professions out there where lives are on the line at a moment's notice, but police work seems to be the only one where they actually flip out and kill people.
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Offworlder1
02/16/18 12:44:14 PM
#32:


These cops deserve to be killed for murdering a drunk kid who was zero threat to them, the one cop is clearly looking for any excuse to kill and after all the confusing directions found one.

Sober people would be hard pressed to not be murdered by this asswipe with all the shouting and raging.

Not only is this unprofressional as fuck but completely mishandled.
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BillyKidd
02/16/18 12:44:21 PM
#33:


TheVipaGTS posted...
BillyKidd posted...
Try again. They came out of a hotel room on the right. When the police finally approach the suspect's hotel room, the body cam shows there were 2 doors right around that blind spot. Again wrong, in calls of known gun, most police have suspect come towards them.

none of that still justifies how this cop behaved or how he had the suspect come towards him...how can you defend that? You KNOW there are better ways to do it. you KNOW the cop acted terribly here...but you just can't admit. Just blame the guy who got shot and move on...


What part of blind corner are you failing to grasp? Right where the guy initially kneeled to the right of him are 2 doors behind that corner. No one with 2 brain cells rubbing together is going to approach that. Not knowing how many people, how many guns, etc... Go to make an arrest and 3 people pop out of the room with uzis, nah pass. Bring the suspect to you.
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Patchwork
02/16/18 12:46:05 PM
#34:


BillyKidd posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
BillyKidd posted...
Try again. They came out of a hotel room on the right. When the police finally approach the suspect's hotel room, the body cam shows there were 2 doors right around that blind spot. Again wrong, in calls of known gun, most police have suspect come towards them.

none of that still justifies how this cop behaved or how he had the suspect come towards him...how can you defend that? You KNOW there are better ways to do it. you KNOW the cop acted terribly here...but you just can't admit. Just blame the guy who got shot and move on...


What part of blind corner are you failing to grasp? Right where the guy initially kneeled to the right of him are 2 doors behind that corner. No one with 2 brain cells rubbing together is going to approach that. Not knowing how many people, how many guns, etc... Go to make an arrest and 3 people pop out of the room with uzis, nah pass. Bring the suspect to you.


Ignore the police officer. It's cool.
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Omnislasher
02/16/18 12:46:43 PM
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TheVipaGTS
02/16/18 12:49:56 PM
#36:


BillyKidd posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
BillyKidd posted...
Try again. They came out of a hotel room on the right. When the police finally approach the suspect's hotel room, the body cam shows there were 2 doors right around that blind spot. Again wrong, in calls of known gun, most police have suspect come towards them.

none of that still justifies how this cop behaved or how he had the suspect come towards him...how can you defend that? You KNOW there are better ways to do it. you KNOW the cop acted terribly here...but you just can't admit. Just blame the guy who got shot and move on...


What part of blind corner are you failing to grasp? Right where the guy initially kneeled to the right of him are 2 doors behind that corner. No one with 2 brain cells rubbing together is going to approach that. Not knowing how many people, how many guns, etc... Go to make an arrest and 3 people pop out of the room with uzis, nah pass. Bring the suspect to you.

what part of "the cop handled that terribly" are you failing to understand? Fine, don't go up to him. there are better ways to bring the suspect to you than that. he told him to crawl, with his hands up and said if he feels like he's gonna fall he better fall on his face....how about, you know, having him stand up after he gave himself up and walk towards you with his hands up?

I completely get what you're saying. you're right. it would have been unsafe for him to just walk up to the room...but for you to say the cop handled that in the best way possible is incredibly stupid and shows your bias.
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MC_BatCommander
02/16/18 12:50:51 PM
#37:


BillyKidd posted...
What part of blind corner are you failing to grasp? Right where the guy initially kneeled to the right of him are 2 doors behind that corner. No one with 2 brain cells rubbing together is going to approach that. Not knowing how many people, how many guns, etc... Go to make an arrest and 3 people pop out of the room with uzis, nah pass. Bring the suspect to you.


and then shoot him anyways \_()_/
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Patchwork
02/16/18 12:50:57 PM
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Offworlder1
02/16/18 12:52:47 PM
#39:


There are a lot of ways to make a suspect come to you that make sense, this was not one of them and the cop was just waiting for him to screw up so he could shoot him.
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Ulyanyx
02/16/18 12:52:58 PM
#40:


TheVipaGTS posted...
BillyKidd posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
BillyKidd posted...
just think, what would have happened if he never pointed a gun out of the hotel window.

fuck off.


me? You're the one that wants the police to come up to a blind corner to affect the arrest.

blind corner? he had the suspect down with his hands in plain view...the smart thing to do would be to go apprehend him...or have him approach you in a better way...you know, like most cops would. "keep your hands up!....ok now crawl and if you fall you fall on your face!"...this man was clearly on a power trip, constantly demanding he do pointless shit (once he was down and gave himself up that should have been it)...and then you come in with that post.."hurr durr what would have happened if he didn't do that!"....none of that excuses the cops behavior here....


no, nothing excuses the cops behaviour. however if the guy didn't shoot an airsoft gun out of a hotel window like a complete fucking mongoloid, none of the above would have happened to begin with. yes some cops are douchebags, but maybe the average person needs to smarten the fuck up and stop making stupid decisions.
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Will446
02/16/18 12:53:04 PM
#41:


Rexdragon125 posted...
There are a lot of professions out there where lives are on the line at a moment's notice, but police work seems to be the only one where they actually flip out and kill people.


People sometimes cant handle the power we used to see that with forum moderators. Its a trip man. Some people are not cut out to be an authority figure
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Offworlder1
02/16/18 12:54:38 PM
#42:


@Ulyanyx

People do dumb shit when they are drunk, victim blaming in this case is not even close to being the right idea.
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Will446
02/16/18 12:54:44 PM
#43:


Ulyanyx posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
BillyKidd posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
BillyKidd posted...
just think, what would have happened if he never pointed a gun out of the hotel window.

fuck off.


me? You're the one that wants the police to come up to a blind corner to affect the arrest.

blind corner? he had the suspect down with his hands in plain view...the smart thing to do would be to go apprehend him...or have him approach you in a better way...you know, like most cops would. "keep your hands up!....ok now crawl and if you fall you fall on your face!"...this man was clearly on a power trip, constantly demanding he do pointless shit (once he was down and gave himself up that should have been it)...and then you come in with that post.."hurr durr what would have happened if he didn't do that!"....none of that excuses the cops behavior here....


no, nothing excuses the cops behaviour. however if the guy didn't shoot an airsoft gun out of a hotel window like a complete fucking mongoloid, none of the above would have happened to begin with. yes some cops are douchebags, but maybe the average person needs to smarten the fuck up and stop making stupid decisions.


I hear you thats not what happened though someone saw him holding what seemed to be a gun through a window. He was showing someone his air gun he got from his job.

Arizona is a open carry state which is different. You can openly carry.

Most likely a tourist from another state saw a gun and freaked and the cops even though its an open carry site most dont like when people open carry even though its legal.
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solosnake
02/16/18 12:59:42 PM
#44:


I dont like to wish harm on anyone, but the cop in that video disgusts me and makes me sick. That is a very sick and twisted man to take someones life like that
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darkjedilink
02/16/18 1:08:45 PM
#45:


TheVipaGTS posted...
BillyKidd posted...
just think, what would have happened if he never pointed a gun out of the hotel window.

fuck off.

Do you want people to be responsible with guns?
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Will446
02/16/18 1:18:00 PM
#46:


darkjedilink posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
BillyKidd posted...
just think, what would have happened if he never pointed a gun out of the hotel window.

fuck off.

Do you want people to be responsible with guns?


The issue is someone saw a gun through his window. Meaning a guy was holding a gun in his hotel room not pointing it out and someone freaked out and called the police.

Arizona is an open carry state so he can legally carry his gun outside. The issue is you most likely have a tourist not aware of the law and you have the police who dont like when people carry regardless.

Also it wasnt a gun and if it was he would have the legal right in that state to carry inside or outside.

People in YouTube have been doing police audits to make sure they dont harass people for exercising there freedoms
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BillyKidd
02/16/18 1:22:59 PM
#47:


A) Never did I excuse the officer's actions. I stated play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Which I was promptly told to "fuck off"

B) open carry or not, sticking a gun out the window of a building is still illegal.

When I was a police officer, one of the guys in my department, in his early thirties, responded to domestic violence call in apartment building on it's 3rd floor. On the 2nd floor landing, the suspect shot from the 3rd floor and hit him in the neck and paralyzed him for the rest of his life. Routine call and no idea any guns would be involved.

All this cop knew was there's a gun. He didn't know about the drinking or the gift or anything people found out about after the fact. He didn't know how many people in the room, didn't know how many or what kind of guns, all he knew was at least one person in that room had a gun. Guy reached for his waistband, a location known for people to frequently hold a gun, after repeated directions to not put his hand there. It was a hallway, where line of sight is already narrowed, so having him walk backwards would have severely cut even more line of sight than they barely had to begin with.
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Punctus_Pilot
02/16/18 1:27:08 PM
#48:


TrueNeutral posted...
Liberals: Negative stereotypes are bad!!!

Also liberals: A small minority of cops are assholes? They're ALL evil!!!

This is flawed. The great majority of cops are assholes.
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TheGrindery
02/16/18 1:28:55 PM
#49:


Bop it

Twist it

Shoot it
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Ulyanyx
02/16/18 1:33:58 PM
#50:


Offworlder1 posted...
@Ulyanyx

People do dumb shit when they are drunk, victim blaming in this case is not even close to being the right idea.


thats funny that you try to take responsibility off the individual. last time i was drunk in public and cops came up to me i co-operated with them and spent the night in a drunk tank.

it's almost like some people have the intellect to not shoot fake guns out of windows, or to make any other stupid decisions.

taking responsibility away from the person in this case is solving nothing. he had the choice to do what he did, knowing full well it could be mistaken for a real gun, and he paid the price. if you keep trying to defend him, i'm sorry but you're in just as much of the wrong as the cop.
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