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Garioshi 02/16/18 7:39:37 AM #1: |
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Rika_Furude 02/16/18 7:41:28 AM #2: |
i have mixed feelings about this
yes, its very annoying if you die but, if you can die and just reset immediately, theres no tension in the boss fight --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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prettyprincess 02/16/18 7:42:05 AM #3: |
ffiv is the greatest game of all time
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NeonOctopus 02/16/18 7:43:08 AM #4: |
git gud
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UnfairRepresent 02/16/18 7:45:02 AM #5: |
I don't like it.
I know people like to say "Death should have consequences, there should be a punishment for failing in games" But either doing something easy for 15 minutes or watching an unskippable cutscene is neither a good challenge nor entertaining. I think bosses should be designed to be difficult, so you beat them 1st or second time (but barely) and the time between failure state and getting back in the game should be as short as humanly possible. There are games I flat out didn't complete because the loading time was so long that if you died or wanted to stop it wasn't fun to sit through the screens. So I just played different better games --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Garioshi 02/16/18 7:45:21 AM #6: |
prettyprincess posted...
ffiv is the greatest game of all time I enjoyed it for sure, but it's got some bullshit design at points. You have to do nearly half of the final dungeon if you die to the final boss, and there's a fairly high chance of dying on your way back down. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 02/16/18 8:02:31 AM #8: |
It's good to have it lack too much predictability.
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Counundrum 02/16/18 8:03:18 AM #9: |
It's good design depending on who you ask. Someone will say yes, some will say no.
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Musourenka 02/16/18 8:05:54 AM #10: |
I remember games like Phantasy Star IV where there were no save points in dungeons at all, and only one or two times where you could save before a boss fight.
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tri sapphire 02/16/18 8:10:48 AM #11: |
Musourenka posted...
I remember games like Phantasy Star IV where there were no save points in dungeons at all, and only one or two times where you could save before a boss fight. Came in here to mention PS IV. Nurvus was annoying as hell when I played it as a kid. --- "If history is to change, let it change! If the world is to be destroyed, so be it! If my fate is to be destroyed...I must simply laugh!!."- Magus ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Musourenka 02/16/18 8:15:41 AM #12: |
tri sapphire posted...
Musourenka posted...I remember games like Phantasy Star IV where there were no save points in dungeons at all, and only one or two times where you could save before a boss fight. Indeed. Pretty much everyone who's gone through PS IV has the map of Nurvus forever etched into their mind. --- Shooing away pigeons crapping on debate tables is not a violation of the pigeons' free speech. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NinjaBreakfast 02/16/18 8:21:38 AM #13: |
Rika_Furude posted...
but, if you can die and just reset immediately, theres no tension in the boss fight Only in theory. I don't think I've ever saved before an rpg boss and felt the challenge/tension was ruined. A boss should be challenging on its own merits not because you have to spend 15 minutes to get back to it or suffer unskippable cutscenes etc. --- http://i.imgur.com/nGZeEqw.png Do you really think you can beat me? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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