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thronedfire2 02/15/18 10:17:37 PM #51:	Darklit_Minuet posted... thronedfire2 posted... lilORANG posted... Trump is a shit but he can't unilaterally put metal detectors in schools. This is on everyone in Washington over the past few decades for sitting on their hands. Not sure metal detectors is the best way to go either. Have one entrance and search anyone who isn't a student xray everyones bags Holy fuck that would be horrible. No kid deserves to be treated as a prisoner do you think it's horrible that you have to go through an xray and metal detector at the airport? because school shootings are more common than airline related attacks now --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:896170179] in Mom of sla... [t:76323573]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darklit_Minuet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thronedfire2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>lilORANG posted...</cite> <quote> Trump is a shit but he can't unilaterally put metal detectors in schools. This is on everyone in Washington over the past few decades for sitting on their hands. Not sure metal detectors is the best way to go either.</quote> Have one entrance and search anyone who isn't a student xray everyones bags</quote> Holy fuck that would be horrible. No kid deserves to be treated as a prisoner</quote> do you think it's horrible that you have to go through an xray and metal detector at the airport? because school shootings are more common than airline related attacks now</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 02/15/18 10:18:11 PM #52:	thronedfire2 posted... do you think it's horrible that you have to go through an xray and metal detector at the airport? Yes --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:896170209] in Mom of sla... [t:76323573]...</cite> <quote><cite>thronedfire2 posted...</cite> <quote> do you think it's horrible that you have to go through an xray and metal detector at the airport? </quote> Yes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 02/15/18 10:20:47 PM #53:	St0rmFury posted... Let's be honest, if Sandy Hook didn't spur them to change, nothing ever will. Yep. That was pretty well known just a few days later when the right started giving Obama shit for tearing up during his speech about it. --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:896170346] in Mom of sla... [t:76323573]...</cite> <quote><cite>St0rmFury posted...</cite> <quote>Let's be honest, if Sandy Hook didn't spur them to change, nothing ever will.</quote> Yep. That was pretty well known just a few days later when the right started giving Obama shit for tearing up during his speech about it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pokemonzero 02/15/18 10:25:33 PM #54:	i honestly think the only way to make schools safe again is to treat them like airports EnterTheTekken posted... thronedfire2 posted... lilORANG posted... Trump is a shit but he can't unilaterally put metal detectors in schools. This is on everyone in Washington over the past few decades for sitting on their hands. Not sure metal detectors is the best way to go either. Have one entrance and search anyone who isn't a student xray everyones bags What about fires? Or natural disasters when the building needs to be evacuated? i think the idea would be to check for weapons coming in. not bags going out. would only hinder entrance, not leaving it did work for airports, i think our children are just as important --- pokemon y fc: 2681 3067 3018 mine-fighting type meinfoo/panchem/riolu <cite>pokemonzero posted [p:896170618] in Mom of sla... [t:76323573]...</cite> <quote>i honestly think the only way to make schools safe again is to treat them like airports <cite>EnterTheTekken posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thronedfire2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>lilORANG posted...</cite> <quote>Trump is a shit but he can't unilaterally put metal detectors in schools. This is on everyone in Washington over the past few decades for sitting on their hands. Not sure metal detectors is the best way to go either.</quote> Have one entrance and search anyone who isn't a student xray everyones bags</quote> What about fires? Or natural disasters when the building needs to be evacuated?</quote> i think the idea would be to check for weapons coming in. not bags going out. would only hinder entrance, not leaving it did work for airports, i think our children are just as important</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 02/15/18 10:40:21 PM #55:	LordRazziel posted... Mal_Fet posted... ilovuuu posted... kids getting shot at school is a price that needs to be paid for the constitution. Are you aware that mass shootings like this are exceedingly rare and make up less than 0.01% of all murders? Are you also aware that greater than 90% of all mass shootings happen in gun-free zones, like schools? Curious how Islamic terrorism is when compared to all the murders in the world. Doesn't mean it's not a serious problem. The government can easily prevent terrorism AND school shootings though. In the former case there should be strict vetting for all immigrants from at-risk countries and no chain migration. In the latter case, they can remove gun-free zone laws because all that actually does is entice shooters to target the areas where they know nobody will have a gun. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:896171442] in Mom of sla... [t:76323573]...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ilovuuu posted...</cite> <quote>kids getting shot at school is a price that needs to be paid for the constitution.</quote> Are you aware that mass shootings like this are exceedingly rare and make up less than 0.01% of all murders? Are you also aware that greater than 90% of all mass shootings happen in gun-free zones, like schools?</quote> Curious how Islamic terrorism is when compared to all the murders in the world. Doesn't mean it's not a serious problem.</quote> The government can easily prevent terrorism AND school shootings though. In the former case there should be strict vetting for all immigrants from at-risk countries and no chain migration. In the latter case, they can remove gun-free zone laws because all that actually does is entice shooters to target the areas where they know nobody will have a gun.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 02/15/18 10:40:58 PM #56:	--- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:896171476] in Mom of sla... [t:76323573]...</cite> <quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CiIantro 02/15/18 10:41:33 PM #57:	Heineken14 posted... lmao <cite>CiIantro posted [p:896171511] in Mom of sla... [t:76323573]...</cite> <quote><cite>Heineken14 posted...</cite> <quote></quote> lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 02/15/18 10:42:28 PM #58:	Mal_Fet posted... In the latter case, they can remove gun-free zone laws because all that actually does is entice shooters to target the areas where they know nobody will have a gun. But if schools are such a powder keg, then why did you earlier remind everyone how rare school shootings are? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:896171551] in Mom of sla... [t:76323573]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>In the latter case, they can remove gun-free zone laws because all that actually does is entice shooters to target the areas where they know nobody will have a gun.</quote> But if schools are such a powder keg, then why did you earlier remind everyone how rare school shootings are?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 02/15/18 10:42:47 PM #59:	i can't take this shit anymore man...fuck the GOP... --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:896171563] in Mom of sla... [t:76323573]...</cite> <quote>i can't take this shit anymore man...fuck the GOP...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 02/15/18 10:46:06 PM #60:	Heineken14 posted... --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:896171716] in Mom of sla... [t:76323573]...</cite> <quote><cite>Heineken14 posted...</cite> <quote></quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 02/15/18 10:47:35 PM #61:	Says the dude who posted a shitty MS Paint cartoon mocking Obama for crying. I'm getting carpal tunnel from all the dismissive wanking you're making me do. --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:896171808] in Mom of sla... [t:76323573]...</cite> <quote>Says the dude who posted a shitty MS Paint cartoon mocking Obama for crying. I'm getting carpal tunnel from all the dismissive wanking you're making me do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 02/15/18 10:47:43 PM #62:	hockeybub89 posted... Mal_Fet posted... In the latter case, they can remove gun-free zone laws because all that actually does is entice shooters to target the areas where they know nobody will have a gun. But if schools are such a powder keg, then why did you earlier remind everyone how rare school shootings are? And clearly these mass shooters are afraid to die so that will stop them! --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:896171818] in Mom of sla... [t:76323573]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>In the latter case, they can remove gun-free zone laws because all that actually does is entice shooters to target the areas where they know nobody will have a gun.</quote> But if schools are such a powder keg, then why did you earlier remind everyone how rare school shootings are?</quote> And clearly these mass shooters are afraid to die so that will stop them!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 02/15/18 10:47:47 PM #63:	hockeybub89 posted... Mal_Fet posted... In the latter case, they can remove gun-free zone laws because all that actually does is entice shooters to target the areas where they know nobody will have a gun. But if schools are such a powder keg, then why did you earlier remind everyone how rare school shootings are? They are rare. But the shootings that do occur all seem to happen in places where guns are "banned". --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:896171821] in Mom of sla... [t:76323573]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>In the latter case, they can remove gun-free zone laws because all that actually does is entice shooters to target the areas where they know nobody will have a gun.</quote> But if schools are such a powder keg, then why did you earlier remind everyone how rare school shootings are?</quote> They are rare. But the shootings that do occur all seem to happen in places where guns are "banned".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 02/15/18 10:48:24 PM #64:	Mal_Fet posted... Heineken14 posted... Nothing is not a solution. It is the absence of one. "It's not guns" is the long and short of the Republican platform on school shootings. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:896171853] in Mom of sla... [t:76323573]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Heineken14 posted...</cite> <quote></quote> </quote> Nothing is not a solution. It is the absence of one. "It's not guns" is the long and short of the Republican platform on school shootings.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 02/15/18 10:49:27 PM #65:	Darmik posted... hockeybub89 posted... Mal_Fet posted... In the latter case, they can remove gun-free zone laws because all that actually does is entice shooters to target the areas where they know nobody will have a gun. But if schools are such a powder keg, then why did you earlier remind everyone how rare school shootings are? And clearly these mass shooters are afraid to die so that will stop them! Shooters will target places where they think they can kill as many people as they can, regardless if they have a death wish. The Boston bombers didn't just happen to set off their explosives at the same day and the same place as the marathon. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:896171909] in Mom of sla... [t:76323573]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>In the latter case, they can remove gun-free zone laws because all that actually does is entice shooters to target the areas where they know nobody will have a gun.</quote> But if schools are such a powder keg, then why did you earlier remind everyone how rare school shootings are?</quote> And clearly these mass shooters are afraid to die so that will stop them!</quote> Shooters will target places where they think they can kill as many people as they can, regardless if they have a death wish. The Boston bombers didn't just happen to set off their explosives at the same day and the same place as the marathon.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 02/15/18 10:50:37 PM #66:	Mal_Fet posted... hockeybub89 posted... Mal_Fet posted... In the latter case, they can remove gun-free zone laws because all that actually does is entice shooters to target the areas where they know nobody will have a gun. But if schools are such a powder keg, then why did you earlier remind everyone how rare school shootings are? They are rare. But the shootings that do occur all seem to happen in places where guns are "banned". But they are so rare, that is it really a problem? 99.9+ percent of students and teachers will never experience a school shooting. Why are gun-free schools and workplaces suddenly an issue for you? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:896171988] in Mom of sla... [t:76323573]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>In the latter case, they can remove gun-free zone laws because all that actually does is entice shooters to target the areas where they know nobody will have a gun.</quote> But if schools are such a powder keg, then why did you earlier remind everyone how rare school shootings are?</quote> They are rare. But the shootings that do occur all seem to happen in places where guns are "banned".</quote> But they are so rare, that is it really a problem? 99.9+ percent of students and teachers will never experience a school shooting. Why are gun-free schools and workplaces suddenly an issue for you?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 02/15/18 10:52:22 PM #67:	hockeybub89 posted... Nothing is not a solution. It is the absence of one. "It's not guns" is the long and short of the Republican platform on school shootings. It's not guns. Gun ownership has skyrocketed in the past 30 years and the homicide rate in America has been dropping at a faster rate in that timeframe than Australia's did after they imposed their ban. And you're right, the solution is not "nothing". The solution is better police funding and a more aggressive mental health program that will incarcerate people with sociopathic tendencies like this guy had. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:896172079] in Mom of sla... [t:76323573]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>Nothing is not a solution. It is the absence of one. "It's not guns" is the long and short of the Republican platform on school shootings.</quote> It's not guns. Gun ownership has skyrocketed in the past 30 years and the homicide rate in America has been dropping at a faster rate in that timeframe than Australia's did after they imposed their ban. And you're right, the solution is not "nothing". The solution is better police funding and a more aggressive mental health program that will incarcerate people with sociopathic tendencies like this guy had.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 02/15/18 10:53:51 PM #68:	hockeybub89 posted... Mal_Fet posted... hockeybub89 posted... Mal_Fet posted... In the latter case, they can remove gun-free zone laws because all that actually does is entice shooters to target the areas where they know nobody will have a gun. But if schools are such a powder keg, then why did you earlier remind everyone how rare school shootings are? They are rare. But the shootings that do occur all seem to happen in places where guns are "banned". But they are so rare, that is it really a problem? 99.9+ percent of students and teachers will never experience a school shooting. Why are gun-free schools and workplaces suddenly an issue for you? All murders are an issue, you psycho. I'm simply giving you guys the most pertinent solution to ending mass shootings. It's no fucking accident that over 90% of mass shooters choose gun-free zones to do their killing. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:896172155] in Mom of sla... [t:76323573]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>In the latter case, they can remove gun-free zone laws because all that actually does is entice shooters to target the areas where they know nobody will have a gun.</quote> But if schools are such a powder keg, then why did you earlier remind everyone how rare school shootings are?</quote> They are rare. But the shootings that do occur all seem to happen in places where guns are "banned".</quote> But they are so rare, that is it really a problem? 99.9+ percent of students and teachers will never experience a school shooting. Why are gun-free schools and workplaces suddenly an issue for you?</quote> All murders are an issue, you psycho. I'm simply giving you guys the most pertinent solution to ending mass shootings. It's no fucking accident that over 90% of mass shooters choose gun-free zones to do their killing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 02/15/18 10:54:04 PM #69:	Mal_Fet posted... Shooters will target places where they think they can kill as many people as they can, regardless if they have a death wish. The Boston bombers didn't just happen to set off their explosives at the same day and the same place as the marathon. Yeah it's not like these kids who shoot up schools had any relation to that school or anything. That must be a coincidence. Clearly it's only because it's a gun free zone. You also missed this question. Darmik posted... Mal_Fet posted... How about the FBI did their jobs and put more effort into apprehending the psychopaths they were warned about in advance? Or are they too busy investigating nothingburgers like the Russia conspiracy? So just to clarify you're advocating for the FBI to investigate people who write death threats on the internet? --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:896172170] in Mom of sla... [t:76323573]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Shooters will target places where they think they can kill as many people as they can, regardless if they have a death wish. The Boston bombers didn't just happen to set off their explosives at the same day and the same place as the marathon.</quote> Yeah it's not like these kids who shoot up schools had any relation to that school or anything. That must be a coincidence. Clearly it's only because it's a gun free zone. You also missed this question. <cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>How about the FBI did their jobs and put more effort into apprehending the psychopaths they were warned about in advance? Or are they too busy investigating nothingburgers like the Russia conspiracy?</quote> So just to clarify you're advocating for the FBI to investigate people who write death threats on the internet?</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 02/15/18 10:55:00 PM #70:	Mal_Fet posted... It's not guns. Gun ownership has skyrocketed in the past 30 years and the homicide rate in America has been dropping at a faster rate in that timeframe than Australia did after they imposed their ban. Because ours have a lot less room to drop. We also haven't had a mass shooting since. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:896172226] in Mom of sla... [t:76323573]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>It's not guns. Gun ownership has skyrocketed in the past 30 years and the homicide rate in America has been dropping at a faster rate in that timeframe than Australia did after they imposed their ban.</quote> Because ours have a lot less room to drop. We also haven't had a mass shooting since.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 02/15/18 10:55:35 PM #71:	Darmik posted... You also missed this question. No I didn't Mal_Fet posted... Or people who were threatening teachers at the school he went to. That would be good. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:896172254] in Mom of sla... [t:76323573]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>You also missed this question.</quote> No I didn't <cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Or people who were threatening teachers at the school he went to. That would be good.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 02/15/18 10:57:09 PM #72:	Darmik posted... Mal_Fet posted... It's not guns. Gun ownership has skyrocketed in the past 30 years and the homicide rate in America has been dropping at a faster rate in that timeframe than Australia did after they imposed their ban. Because ours have a lot less room to drop. We also haven't had a mass shooting since. You also really didn't have any mass shootings before, either. So that's a statistically insignificant figure. Also, 2/3 of the gun owners in Australia still have their guns after the "ban" went into effect. Don't act like your firearms all magically vanished. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:896172338] in Mom of sla... [t:76323573]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>It's not guns. Gun ownership has skyrocketed in the past 30 years and the homicide rate in America has been dropping at a faster rate in that timeframe than Australia did after they imposed their ban.</quote> Because ours have a lot less room to drop. We also haven't had a mass shooting since.</quote> You also really didn't have any mass shootings before, either. So that's a statistically insignificant figure. Also, 2/3 of the gun owners in Australia still have their guns after the "ban" went into effect. Don't act like your firearms all magically vanished.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Returning_CEmen 02/15/18 10:57:34 PM #73:	Tag --- http://i.imgtc.com/BOhYeOg.jpg <cite>Returning_CEmen posted [p:896172361] in Mom of sla... [t:76323573]...</cite> <quote>Tag</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 02/15/18 10:57:58 PM #74:	Mal_Fet posted... Or people who were threatening teachers at the school he went to. That would be good. You must have missed this one then; Darmik posted... Mal_Fet posted... Darmik posted... So just to clarify you're advocating for the FBI to investigate people who write death threats on the internet? Or people who were threatening teachers at the school he went to. That would be good. Ok? So a kid threatens teachers at the school. What do you think the FBI should do from there? Can they storm in his house and take his guns away? --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:896172386] in Mom of sla... [t:76323573]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Or people who were threatening teachers at the school he went to. That would be good.</quote> You must have missed this one then; <cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>So just to clarify you're advocating for the FBI to investigate people who write death threats on the internet?</quote> Or people who were threatening teachers at the school he went to. That would be good.</quote> Ok? So a kid threatens teachers at the school. What do you think the FBI should do from there? Can they storm in his house and take his guns away?</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 02/15/18 10:58:25 PM #75:	Darmik posted... Ok? So a kid threatens teachers at the school. What do you think the FBI should do from there? Put them in a psych ward. Can they storm in his house and take his guns away? Yes. Violent criminals shouldn't be allowed to have guns. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:896172416] in Mom of sla... [t:76323573]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>Ok? So a kid threatens teachers at the school. What do you think the FBI should do from there? </quote> Put them in a psych ward. <quote>Can they storm in his house and take his guns away?</quote> Yes. Violent criminals shouldn't be allowed to have guns.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 02/15/18 10:59:13 PM #76:	Mal_Fet posted... Darmik posted... Mal_Fet posted... It's not guns. Gun ownership has skyrocketed in the past 30 years and the homicide rate in America has been dropping at a faster rate in that timeframe than Australia did after they imposed their ban. Because ours have a lot less room to drop. We also haven't had a mass shooting since. You also really didn't have any mass shootings before, either. It's a statistically insignificant figure. Also, 2/3 of the gun owners in Australia still have their guns after the "ban" went into effect. Don't act like your firearms all magically vanished. Yes we did. It was a mass shooting that prompted gun restrictions here. We havent had a lot because our government took prompt action to prevent it. The american government is doing jack shit and the people dont care --- Posted with GameRaven 3.4 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:896172457] in Mom of sla... [t:76323573]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote> It's not guns. Gun ownership has skyrocketed in the past 30 years and the homicide rate in America has been dropping at a faster rate in that timeframe than Australia did after they imposed their ban. </quote> Because ours have a lot less room to drop. We also haven't had a mass shooting since.</quote> You also really didn't have any mass shootings before, either. It's a statistically insignificant figure. Also, 2/3 of the gun owners in Australia still have their guns after the "ban" went into effect. Don't act like your firearms all magically vanished.</quote> Yes we did. It was a mass shooting that prompted gun restrictions here. We havent had a lot because our government took prompt action to prevent it. The american government is doing jack shit and the people dont care</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 02/15/18 10:59:58 PM #77:	Mal_Fet posted... You also really didn't have any mass shootings before, either. It's a statistically insignificant figure. We had the worst mass shooting at that point Mal_Fet posted... Also, 2/3 of the gun owners in Australia still have their guns after the "ban" went into effect. Don't act like your firearms all magically vanished. Why would I need to pretend that? The point was to make it harder for people to murder people with firearms and to avoid mass shooting. Not make guns disappear completely overnight. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:896172498] in Mom of sla... [t:76323573]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>You also really didn't have any mass shootings before, either. It's a statistically insignificant figure.</quote> We had the worst mass shooting at that point <cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Also, 2/3 of the gun owners in Australia still have their guns after the "ban" went into effect. Don't act like your firearms all magically vanished.</quote> Why would I need to pretend that? The point was to make it harder for people to murder people with firearms and to avoid mass shooting. Not make guns disappear completely overnight.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 02/15/18 11:00:01 PM #78:	Mal_Fet posted... hockeybub89 posted... Nothing is not a solution. It is the absence of one. "It's not guns" is the long and short of the Republican platform on school shootings. It's not guns. Gun ownership has skyrocketed in the past 30 years and the homicide rate in America has been dropping at a faster rate in that timeframe than Australia's did after they imposed their ban. And you're right, the solution is not "nothing". The solution is better police funding and a more aggressive mental health program that will incarcerate people with sociopathic tendencies like this guy had. "Incarcerate people" was definitely the improved mental healthcare I was thinking of. You should be President and the head and chair of every department. You have the best solutions. Believe me, I know solutions and these are the best. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:896172501] in Mom of sla... [t:76323573]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>Nothing is not a solution. It is the absence of one. "It's not guns" is the long and short of the Republican platform on school shootings.</quote> It's not guns. Gun ownership has skyrocketed in the past 30 years and the homicide rate in America has been dropping at a faster rate in that timeframe than Australia's did after they imposed their ban. And you're right, the solution is not "nothing". The solution is better police funding and a more aggressive mental health program that will incarcerate people with sociopathic tendencies like this guy had.</quote> "Incarcerate people" was definitely the improved mental healthcare I was thinking of. You should be President and the head and chair of every department. You have the best solutions. Believe me, I know solutions and these are the best.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 02/15/18 11:01:02 PM #79:	Mal_Fet posted... Darmik posted... Ok? So a kid threatens teachers at the school. What do you think the FBI should do from there? Put them in a psych ward. Can they storm in his house and take his guns away? Yes. Violent criminals shouldn't be allowed to have guns. A psych ward? Can the FBI make that decision on their own? Who decides that? When is someone a 'violent criminal' When they make threats online or in person? --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:896172551] in Mom of sla... [t:76323573]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>Ok? So a kid threatens teachers at the school. What do you think the FBI should do from there? </quote> Put them in a psych ward. <quote>Can they storm in his house and take his guns away?</quote> Yes. Violent criminals shouldn't be allowed to have guns.</quote> A psych ward? Can the FBI make that decision on their own? Who decides that? When is someone a 'violent criminal' When they make threats online or in person?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 02/15/18 11:02:50 PM #80:	Mal_Fet posted... Also, 2/3 of the gun owners in Australia still have their guns after the "ban" went into effect. Don't act like your firearms all magically vanished. "We don't have mass shootings anymore" "Yeah, but people still have guns so haha take that, liberal" haha got eeem --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:896172632] in Mom of sla... [t:76323573]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Also, 2/3 of the gun owners in Australia still have their guns after the "ban" went into effect. Don't act like your firearms all magically vanished.</quote> "We don't have mass shootings anymore" "Yeah, but people still have guns so haha take that, liberal" haha got eeem</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 02/15/18 11:04:06 PM #81:	Rika_Furude posted... Yes we did. It was a mass shooting that prompted gun restrictions here. We havent had a lot because our government took prompt action to prevent it. The american government is doing jack shit and the people dont care Right, now all you have to worry about is car attacks and child-stabbers. Still, your statistic isn't significant. There weren't many mass shootings in general before the Port Arthur shooting so saying that the gun buyback was a success because there's only been a handful of mass killings since is beyond dishonest. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:896172700] in Mom of sla... [t:76323573]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>Yes we did. It was a mass shooting that prompted gun restrictions here. We havent had a lot because our government took prompt action to prevent it. The american government is doing jack shit and the people dont care</quote> Right, now all you have to worry about is car attacks and child-stabbers. Still, your statistic isn't significant. There weren't many mass shootings in general before the Port Arthur shooting so saying that the gun buyback was a success because there's only been a handful of mass killings since is beyond dishonest. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fin_Dawg_004 02/15/18 11:05:58 PM #82:	defending mass murderers lol --- Dallas Cowboys : 6 - 6 Dallas Mavs : Dirk Nowitzki: 30, 527 points (6th all time) 892 from Wilt <cite>Fin_Dawg_004 posted [p:896172802] in Mom of sla... [t:76323573]...</cite> <quote>defending mass murderers lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 02/15/18 11:06:45 PM #83:	hockeybub89 posted... "Incarcerate people" was definitely the improved mental healthcare I was thinking of. Well yeah, there was a major dropoff in asylum patients in the 70's/80's because the thought was that all crazy people were like in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest and were just misunderstood. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:896172839] in Mom of sla... [t:76323573]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>"Incarcerate people" was definitely the improved mental healthcare I was thinking of. </quote> Well yeah, there was a major dropoff in asylum patients in the 70's/80's because the thought was that all crazy people were like in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest and were just misunderstood.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 02/15/18 11:11:24 PM #84:	Mal_Fet posted... Right, now all you have to worry about is car attacks and child-stabbers. Do you realize how pathetically small those numbers are in proportion to America? You aren't good at this whole deflection game. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:896173088] in Mom of sla... [t:76323573]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote> Right, now all you have to worry about is car attacks and child-stabbers.</quote> Do you realize how pathetically small those numbers are in proportion to America? You aren't good at this whole deflection game.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 02/15/18 11:13:08 PM #85:	Mal_Fet posted... hockeybub89 posted... "Incarcerate people" was definitely the improved mental healthcare I was thinking of. Well yeah, there was a major dropoff in asylum patients in the 70's/80's because the thought was that all crazy people were like in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest and were just misunderstood. Or because we realized locking people up and stabbing icepicks in their brain may not be the best way to treat mental illness. Asylums were more prison than hospital. No, I'm sure it was just liberal outrage stemming from believing fiction. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:896173163] in Mom of sla... [t:76323573]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>"Incarcerate people" was definitely the improved mental healthcare I was thinking of. </quote> Well yeah, there was a major dropoff in asylum patients in the 70's/80's because the thought was that all crazy people were like in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest and were just misunderstood.</quote> Or because we realized locking people up and stabbing icepicks in their brain may not be the best way to treat mental illness. Asylums were more prison than hospital. No, I'm sure it was just liberal outrage stemming from believing fiction.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 02/15/18 11:13:33 PM #86:	Mal_Fet posted... Still, your statistic isn't significant. There weren't many mass shootings in general before the Port Arthur shooting so saying that the gun buyback was a success because there's only been a handful of mass killings since is beyond dishonest. It's not being dishonest. A guy easily massacred several people. The laws changed so this is no longer easy. We haven't had one since. Considering the rise of mass shootings in America and these stories in the media there is no reason to believe we wouldn't have had our own if people had the same access to the guns used in Port Arthur today. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:896173181] in Mom of sla... [t:76323573]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Still, your statistic isn't significant. There weren't many mass shootings in general before the Port Arthur shooting so saying that the gun buyback was a success because there's only been a handful of mass killings since is beyond dishonest.</quote> It's not being dishonest. A guy easily massacred several people. The laws changed so this is no longer easy. We haven't had one since. Considering the rise of mass shootings in America and these stories in the media there is no reason to believe we wouldn't have had our own if people had the same access to the guns used in Port Arthur today.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 02/15/18 11:20:31 PM #87:	hockeybub89 posted... Or because we realized locking people up and stabbing icepicks in their brain may not be the best way to treat mental illness. ...Are you under the impression that we live in the 1930's or something Darmik posted... Considering the rise of mass shootings in America The homicide rate has been falling drastically for several decades now, actually. So what else do you got --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:896173540] in Mom of sla... [t:76323573]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>Or because we realized locking people up and stabbing icepicks in their brain may not be the best way to treat mental illness. </quote> ...Are you under the impression that we live in the 1930's or something <cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote> Considering the rise of mass shootings in America</quote> The homicide rate has been falling drastically for several decades now, actually. So what else do you got</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dat_Cracka_Jax 02/15/18 11:21:23 PM #88:	Darklit_Minuet posted... thronedfire2 posted... lilORANG posted... Trump is a shit but he can't unilaterally put metal detectors in schools. This is on everyone in Washington over the past few decades for sitting on their hands. Not sure metal detectors is the best way to go either. Have one entrance and search anyone who isn't a student xray everyones bags Holy fuck that would be horrible. No kid deserves to be treated as a prisoner No kid should go to an airport then --- http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/8131/flame201010170949481638.jpg http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/5517/cateyes.gif Rams: 7-9 <cite>Dat_Cracka_Jax posted [p:896173585] in Mom of sla... [t:76323573]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darklit_Minuet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thronedfire2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>lilORANG posted...</cite> <quote> Trump is a shit but he can't unilaterally put metal detectors in schools. This is on everyone in Washington over the past few decades for sitting on their hands. Not sure metal detectors is the best way to go either.</quote> Have one entrance and search anyone who isn't a student xray everyones bags</quote> Holy fuck that would be horrible. No kid deserves to be treated as a prisoner</quote> No kid should go to an airport then</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funbazooka 02/15/18 11:22:43 PM #89:	Why are liberals demanding that Trump act like a dictator (for reals this time) and take away everyone's right to bear arms --- I'll defend any man's Funbazooka! <cite>Funbazooka posted [p:896173649] in Mom of sla... [t:76323573]...</cite> <quote>Why are liberals demanding that Trump act like a dictator (for reals this time) and take away everyone's right to bear arms</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EnterTheTekken 02/15/18 11:23:14 PM #90:	Funbazooka posted... Why are liberals demanding that Trump act like a dictator (for reals this time) and take away everyone's right to bear arms <cite>EnterTheTekken posted [p:896173679] in Mom of sla... [t:76323573]...</cite> <quote><cite>Funbazooka posted...</cite> <quote>Why are liberals demanding that Trump act like a dictator (for reals this time) and take away everyone's right to bear arms</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darklit_Minuet 02/15/18 11:26:35 PM #92:	Dat_Cracka_Jax posted... Darklit_Minuet posted... thronedfire2 posted... lilORANG posted... Trump is a shit but he can't unilaterally put metal detectors in schools. This is on everyone in Washington over the past few decades for sitting on their hands. Not sure metal detectors is the best way to go either. Have one entrance and search anyone who isn't a student xray everyones bags Holy fuck that would be horrible. No kid deserves to be treated as a prisoner No kid should go to an airport then No arguments there. I've absolutely refused to fly anywhere since all that TSA crap got implemented <cite>Darklit_Minuet posted [p:896173840] in Mom of sla... [t:76323573]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darklit_Minuet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thronedfire2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>lilORANG posted...</cite> <quote> Trump is a shit but he can't unilaterally put metal detectors in schools. This is on everyone in Washington over the past few decades for sitting on their hands. Not sure metal detectors is the best way to go either.</quote> Have one entrance and search anyone who isn't a student xray everyones bags</quote> Holy fuck that would be horrible. No kid deserves to be treated as a prisoner</quote> No kid should go to an airport then</quote> No arguments there. I've absolutely refused to fly anywhere since all that TSA crap got implemented</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 02/15/18 11:33:44 PM #93:	Mal_Fet posted... hockeybub89 posted... Or because we realized locking people up and stabbing icepicks in their brain may not be the best way to treat mental illness. ...Are you under the impression that we live in the 1930's or something Darmik posted... Considering the rise of mass shootings in America The homicide rate has been falling drastically for several decades now, actually. So what else do you got Lets have a look at the actual numbers here. Both numbers are the homicide rate per 100k people Australia went from 1.9 in 1995 to 1.0 in 2017 America went from 8.2 in 1995 to 4.5 in 2014. As for mass shootings? Australia had 35 people killed in a mass shooting in 1996 2 people killed in a mass shooting in 2002 8 people killed in 2014 in two separate shooting sprees (one of which was a man who killed his family) That's all of them 82 people have been killed in shootings sprees in the US this year already. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:896174186] in Mom of sla... [t:76323573]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>Or because we realized locking people up and stabbing icepicks in their brain may not be the best way to treat mental illness. </quote> ...Are you under the impression that we live in the 1930's or something <cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote> Considering the rise of mass shootings in America</quote> The homicide rate has been falling drastically for several decades now, actually. So what else do you got</quote> Lets have a look at the actual numbers here. Both numbers are the homicide rate per 100k people Australia went from 1.9 in 1995 to 1.0 in 2017 America went from 8.2 in 1995 to 4.5 in 2014. As for mass shootings? Australia had 35 people killed in a mass shooting in 1996 2 people killed in a mass shooting in 2002 8 people killed in 2014 in two separate shooting sprees (one of which was a man who killed his family) That's all of them 82 people have been killed in shootings sprees in the US this year already.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funbazooka 02/15/18 11:35:12 PM #94:	What are the stats on drive-bys? --- I'll defend any man's Funbazooka! <cite>Funbazooka posted [p:896174274] in Mom of sla... [t:76323573]...</cite> <quote>What are the stats on drive-bys? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 02/15/18 11:40:40 PM #95:	billcom6 posted... I can't believe she would try to politicize a tragedy like this. How classless. It should be politicized. Better then the republicans just saying thoughts and prayers and then doing nothing. Maybe they will actually do something to prevent the next tragedy. --- No sig. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:896174544] in Mom of sla... [t:76323573]...</cite> <quote><cite>billcom6 posted...</cite> <quote>I can't believe she would try to politicize a tragedy like this. How classless.</quote> It should be politicized. Better then the republicans just saying thoughts and prayers and then doing nothing. Maybe they will actually do something to prevent the next tragedy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordRazziel 02/15/18 11:57:17 PM #96:	Mal_Fet posted... LordRazziel posted... Mal_Fet posted... ilovuuu posted... kids getting shot at school is a price that needs to be paid for the constitution. Are you aware that mass shootings like this are exceedingly rare and make up less than 0.01% of all murders? Are you also aware that greater than 90% of all mass shootings happen in gun-free zones, like schools? Curious how Islamic terrorism is when compared to all the murders in the world. Doesn't mean it's not a serious problem. The government can easily prevent terrorism AND school shootings though. In the former case there should be strict vetting for all immigrants from at-risk countries and no chain migration. In the latter case, they can remove gun-free zone laws because all that actually does is entice shooters to target the areas where they know nobody will have a gun. Neither are simple issues. You argued that it want a big deal, due to overall percentage. I don't think gun free school zone have a marked effect on school shootings one way or the other. Got a credible source that shows they increase school shootings? Someone did have a gun in this case. --- http://i.imgur.com/8pzUM.gif http://i.imgur.com/Oh1iujg.gif The only bad part about flying is having to come back down to the f***in' world ~Rat <cite>LordRazziel posted [p:896175352] in Mom of sla... [t:76323573]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ilovuuu posted...</cite> <quote>kids getting shot at school is a price that needs to be paid for the constitution.</quote> Are you aware that mass shootings like this are exceedingly rare and make up less than 0.01% of all murders? Are you also aware that greater than 90% of all mass shootings happen in gun-free zones, like schools?</quote> Curious how Islamic terrorism is when compared to all the murders in the world. Doesn't mean it's not a serious problem.</quote> The government can easily prevent terrorism AND school shootings though. In the former case there should be strict vetting for all immigrants from at-risk countries and no chain migration. In the latter case, they can remove gun-free zone laws because all that actually does is entice shooters to target the areas where they know nobody will have a gun.</quote> Neither are simple issues. You argued that it want a big deal, due to overall percentage. I don't think gun free school zone have a marked effect on school shootings one way or the other. Got a credible source that shows they increase school shootings? Someone did have a gun in this case.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
marc55 02/16/18 12:26:21 AM #97:	Darklit_Minuet posted... thronedfire2 posted... lilORANG posted... Trump is a shit but he can't unilaterally put metal detectors in schools. This is on everyone in Washington over the past few decades for sitting on their hands. Not sure metal detectors is the best way to go either. Have one entrance and search anyone who isn't a student xray everyones bags Holy fuck that would be horrible. No kid deserves to be treated as a prisoner what ? but why are kids who arent students trying to get into school buildings ? --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. <cite>marc55 posted [p:896176604] in Mom of sla... [t:76323573]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darklit_Minuet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thronedfire2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>lilORANG posted...</cite> <quote> Trump is a shit but he can't unilaterally put metal detectors in schools. This is on everyone in Washington over the past few decades for sitting on their hands. Not sure metal detectors is the best way to go either.</quote> Have one entrance and search anyone who isn't a student xray everyones bags</quote> Holy fuck that would be horrible. No kid deserves to be treated as a prisoner</quote> what ? but why are kids who arent students trying to get into school buildings ?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 02/16/18 12:40:28 AM #98:	Ruvan22 posted... St0rmFury posted... Let's be honest, if Sandy Hook didn't spur them to change, nothing ever will. Sadly I'm beginning to feel this way too Even in today's news, when Trump talked about addressing mental health, other republicans chimed into say "but not limit those with mental health problems access to guns too narrowly" I mean, if we go this route, we need to start funding mental health research too. Which until then at best you're still slapping bandaids on. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:896177121] in Mom of sla... [t:76323573]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ruvan22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>St0rmFury posted...</cite> <quote>Let's be honest, if Sandy Hook didn't spur them to change, nothing ever will.</quote> Sadly I'm beginning to feel this way too Even in today's news, when Trump talked about addressing mental health, other republicans chimed into say "but not limit those with mental health problems access to guns too narrowly"</quote> I mean, if we go this route, we need to start funding mental health research too. Which until then at best you're still slapping bandaids on.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iPhone_7 02/16/18 12:52:14 AM #99:	I think it was Thomas Jefferson who once said: Thine tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of the young & innocent. Tis a small price to pay for true freedom. --- Sig User Logic http://i.imgur.com/lA5fm7w.jpg <cite>iPhone_7 posted [p:896177590] in Mom of sla... [t:76323573]...</cite> <quote>I think it was Thomas Jefferson who once said: Thine tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of the young & innocent. Tis a small price to pay for true freedom.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 02/16/18 3:31:25 AM #100:	Darmik posted... Lets have a look at the actual numbers here. Both numbers are the homicide rate per 100k people Australia went from 1.9 in 1995 to 1.0 in 2017 America went from 8.2 in 1995 to 4.5 in 2014. As for mass shootings? Australia had 35 people killed in a mass shooting in 1996 2 people killed in a mass shooting in 2002 8 people killed in 2014 in two separate shooting sprees (one of which was a man who killed his family) That's all of them 82 people have been killed in shootings sprees in the US this year already. What Are you trying to suggest that it's worse to be killed in a mass shooting than in any other circumstance? Shouldn't the overall homicide rate decline matter way more? --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:896182481] in Mom of sla... [t:76323573]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>Lets have a look at the actual numbers here. Both numbers are the homicide rate per 100k people Australia went from 1.9 in 1995 to 1.0 in 2017 America went from 8.2 in 1995 to 4.5 in 2014. As for mass shootings? Australia had 35 people killed in a mass shooting in 1996 2 people killed in a mass shooting in 2002 8 people killed in 2014 in two separate shooting sprees (one of which was a man who killed his family) That's all of them 82 people have been killed in shootings sprees in the US this year already.</quote> What Are you trying to suggest that it's worse to be killed in a mass shooting than in any other circumstance? Shouldn't the overall homicide rate decline matter way more?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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