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furb 02/13/18 6:36:09 PM #52: |
what about the part where there was an attempted coup on the emperor when he wanted to surrender
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gmanthebest 02/13/18 6:40:24 PM #53: |
Don't wake the sleeping giant.
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chill02 02/13/18 6:42:24 PM #54: |
DuranOfForcena posted...
speak softly and carry a big stick --- Ave, true to Caesar. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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masticatingman 02/13/18 6:58:11 PM #55: |
Its well known that Truman didnt exactly want to use the bombs.
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ModLogic 02/14/18 1:22:09 AM #56: |
masticatingman posted...
Its well known that Truman didnt exactly want to use the bombs. the same truman that hated japanese and called them lesser humans im a documented letter? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gunplagirl 02/14/18 1:24:10 AM #57: |
Complete_Idi0t posted...
Why does everyone care about the abombs and not the tons of conventional bombs that killed more people? Increased cancer rates to this day seen in people who inhabit and work in the affected areas --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Delta_F14 02/14/18 1:39:47 AM #58: |
IIRC, the Japanese population were about as brainwashed as North Korean is today. Without a show of force for demoralization, maintaining control of Japan would have likely have been difficult.
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0AbsoluteZero0 02/14/18 1:40:59 AM #59: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
s0nicfan posted...They were about to surrender to Russia, IIRC. The US bombed them to force a surrender against us because they thought it would produce more favorable terms and limit Russia's influence in the region. I can't even really imagine what a Russia dominated Japan would look like today if it actually went down that way. [citation needed] I agree that theres a good chance that they used the bomb at least in part as a show of force to Russia - but its stupid to throw it out there as if its an unquestionable fact. --- -The Admirable ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gunplagirl 02/14/18 1:49:34 AM #60: |
Delta_F14 posted...
IIRC, the Japanese population were about as brainwashed as North Korean is today. Without a show of force for demoralization, maintaining control of Japan would have likely have been difficult. It really wasn't. That "militaristic nation" identity was propagandist material used to garner public support. This is after the US made and implemented Japanese interment camps, no less. The first bomb was more than enough to completely shut down Japan which was already preparing to surrender. The first one got Japan to hasten all of their proceedings. But America then dropped a second one to obtain an unconditional surrender. Basically, if they hadn't got that unconditional surrender, they'd have no doubt continued dropping nuclear warheads. --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa ... Copied to Clipboard!
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