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refmon
02/12/18 4:06:25 PM
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"executive Greg Silverman was hands off when it came to Snyder, even after there were calls to remove him from Justice League following the poor reception to Batman v Superman. Silverman was apparently quite harsh on Zack but kept him on board.
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Rumors are now swirling that Snyder was fired from Justice League as far back as early 2017. Josh Dickey, a veteran entertainment reporter who is now stepping away to pursue other interests, claims that he had originally been told that Snyder was actually fired from the DCEU several months before his announced departure from Justice League."

Interesting if true,

Full story here...
https://theplaylist.net/zack-snyder-fired-dceu-20180212/
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Vyrulisse
02/12/18 4:07:11 PM
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The move to Whedon sure paid off... ... ... ... ...
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au_gold
02/12/18 4:09:24 PM
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Thats a shame. He was the only reason the DCEU is so great.
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sktgamer_13dude
02/12/18 4:10:13 PM
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Too bad Snyder isnt the only thing bad about the DCEU.
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Gamer99z
02/12/18 4:10:43 PM
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There is a God
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hollow_shrine
02/12/18 4:10:46 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
The move to Whedon sure paid off... ... ... ... ...

It might have spared us a second Suicide Squad, but it was still too late to do much else. The movie wasn't awful, but wasn't great either and felt more than a little schizophrenic.
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Lost_All_Senses
02/12/18 4:12:01 PM
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au_gold posted...
Thats a shame. He was the only reason the DCEU is so great.


Can't tell if sarcasm
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s0nicfan
02/12/18 4:12:17 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
The move to Whedon sure paid off... ... ... ... ...


Polishing a turd can only do so much.
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apocalyptic_4
02/12/18 4:15:00 PM
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Good should of happened a week after BvS released.

Never have I ever been so mad after watching a film.
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Gamer99z
02/12/18 4:15:28 PM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
au_gold posted...
Thats a shame. He was the only reason the DCEU is so great.


Can't tell if sarcasm

His gimmick for years has been intentionally saying bad opinions to get a rise out of people. Like for example he said Terminator Genisys is the best one, he said Terminator 3 before that.

He'll also do topics with popular opinions then randomly throw in one like "Terminator 3 is the best one" just for someone to bite and argue it.
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legendarylemur
02/12/18 4:16:20 PM
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leverageblargh posted...
Who will you people scapegoat now

People were already scapegoating Joss Whedon lol. Frankly, I'd rather Whedon do something original, not this shit
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Darmik
02/12/18 4:18:19 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
The move to Whedon sure paid off... ... ... ... ...


Justice League would have been even worse if they didn't add Whedon
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Lost_All_Senses
02/12/18 4:19:55 PM
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Gamer99z posted...
Lost_All_Senses posted...
au_gold posted...
Thats a shame. He was the only reason the DCEU is so great.


Can't tell if sarcasm

His gimmick for years has been intentionally saying bad opinions to get a rise out of people. Like for example he said Terminator Genisys is the best one, he said Terminator 3 before that.

He'll also do topics with popular opinions then randomly throw in one like "Terminator 3 is the best one" just for someone to bite and argue it.


Ah, thanks for the heads up. I gave you a positive tag
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au_gold
02/12/18 4:21:07 PM
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You say that, @Gamer99z, yet the only person who consistently argues is you.
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Lost_All_Senses
02/12/18 4:22:15 PM
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au_gold posted...
You say that, @Gamer99z, yet the only person who consistently argues is you.


Ill keep my eyes open.
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Gamer99z
02/12/18 4:24:04 PM
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au_gold posted...
You say that, @Gamer99z, yet the only person who consistently argues is you.

I've literally never argued with you. I just notify others of your gimmick.
Not even I'm dumb enough to bite on your clearly intentionally bad opinions just to troll.

And on the off chance you're not trolling, your taste is so bad there's no reason to discuss anything with you because nothing would be accomplished.
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Gamer99z
02/12/18 4:27:45 PM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
au_gold posted...
You say that, @Gamer99z, yet the only person who consistently argues is you.


Ill keep my eyes open.

You can use that site, search his username and view his topics. There's one where he said the new Cloverfield Netflix movie is his favorite movie of all time.

In a best sitcom topic he listed Big Bang Theory, Young Sheldon, and Mulaney.

He doesn't even try to hide it.
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au_gold
02/12/18 4:29:35 PM
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I mean, I could easily say that your gimmick is telling other posters that they have bad opinions and writing a diatribe explaining that its their gimmick, but I dont because, although thats all I ever see you do, its petty to draw attention to things like that.
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ScaredKitty
02/12/18 4:31:38 PM
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It's a shame Snyder turned out to be a fraud. He got off to a decent start with Dawn of the Dead, 300, and Watchmen and everything he has made since has been total shit.
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02/12/18 4:31:59 PM
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s0nicfan
02/12/18 4:32:35 PM
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ScaredKitty posted...
It's a shame Snyder turned out to be a fraud. He got off to a decent start with Dawn of the Dead, 300, and Watchmen and everything he has made since has been total shit.


He fell into the same trap as M. Night in thinking that just because he can direct, he can also write. Too many directors get high on their own success, think they're the shit, and produce shit as a result. It's also completely insulting to people who actually majored in writing that these directors think, without the same level of formal training, they can do just as well.
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Tyranthraxus
02/12/18 4:35:46 PM
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hollow_shrine posted...
It might have spared us a second Suicide Squad

Snyder didn't direct Suicide Squad
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Anarchy_Juiblex
02/12/18 4:35:46 PM
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Scrap it and try again in 5 years. Maybe whoever the fuck is in charge of The Flash tv series.
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Gamer99z
02/12/18 4:36:07 PM
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au_gold posted...
I mean, I could easily say that your gimmick is telling other posters that they have bad opinions and writing a diatribe explaining that its their gimmick, but I dont because, although thats all I ever see you do, its petty to draw attention to things like that.

When you take the gimmick this seriously it's less fun. You should go a more Complete_idi0t direction with it. Be more subtle and/or tongue in cheek. Be more satirical. It could be a fun gimmick if you did it that way.
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Lost_All_Senses
02/12/18 4:38:41 PM
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Gamer99z posted...
au_gold posted...
I mean, I could easily say that your gimmick is telling other posters that they have bad opinions and writing a diatribe explaining that its their gimmick, but I dont because, although thats all I ever see you do, its petty to draw attention to things like that.

When you take the gimmick this seriously it's less fun. You should go a more Complete_idi0t direction with it. Be more subtle and/or tongue in cheek. Be more satirical. It could be a fun gimmick if you did it that way.


I like that dude too so Imma believe you
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LightHawKnight
02/12/18 4:42:03 PM
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I thought he "quit" after what happened to his daughter?
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Tyranthraxus
02/12/18 4:43:36 PM
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LightHawKnight posted...
I thought he "quit" after what happened to his daughter?


This is what happened. Don't believe shady ass fucking articles like this on the internet. There is a contingency of fucking MCU liars going around literally making up rumors to news outlets that make the DCEU look like it's choking itself with infighting.
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hollow_shrine
02/12/18 4:45:55 PM
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His Watchmen adaptation is a great panel for panel recreation of the plot of the comic, but personally I think it lacks heart and misses the point. There are several slight moments where Snyder copies lines or sequences of events but fails to recognize why Moore structured them they way they do. Rorschach's speculation about how awful the world is, reflects more on him and the lens through which he sees the world than it does about the world itself. And the book largely condemns him for his lack of flexibility with regards to humanitarian interests, where Snyder seems to martyr him. The metafiction of the comic (clearly obvious in the conversation between Rorschach and Ozy) is completely lost in the adaption. Were you to simply watch Snyder's adaptation of the book, I don't think you would understand why this book has captured the fascination of new readers for the past thirty years.
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Zikten
02/12/18 4:46:31 PM
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Prepare for a truth bomb

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The real reason the series has sucked is they are too impatient. It's not about who the director is. It's the fact that marvel put in hard work and waited 10 years to develop their universe. DC wants to rush to the big climax. That is why they fail
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Darmik
02/12/18 4:48:06 PM
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Zikten posted...
Prepare for a truth bomb

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The real reason the series has sucked is they are too impatient. It's not about who the director is. It's the fact that marvel put in hard work and waited 10 years to develop their universe. DC wants to rush to the big climax. That is why they fail


That's a factor sure. But a bunch of Man of Steel tier movies wouldn't have matched the MCU either.

There's a lot they got wrong.
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legendarylemur
02/12/18 4:49:35 PM
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There were way more issues with all the movies than it trying to rush the franchise. Why the hell did anybody think a gritty, greyscale Superman is in any way preferable to the ultimate boy scout good guy movie? He should've been the guy that can effortlessly fight over the top grit, but become one himself
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Tyranthraxus
02/12/18 4:52:42 PM
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Zikten posted...
The real reason the series has sucked is they are too impatient. It's not about who the director is. It's the fact that marvel put in hard work and waited 10 years to develop their universe. DC wants to rush to the big climax. That is why they fail


This is it, actually.

Zack Snyder actually wanted to do a solo Batman and MoS2 before BvS but DC/WB execs forced him to rush to catch up. So he tried to cram all the shit he had planned into a couple of movies and they ended up being super long with huge budgets spent to film them and then literally hours were cut from what was filmed.

Zack literally never had a chance. It was doomed from the start. That said, he also wasn't a great choice for a director as he's a huge fan of grimdark stuff--which was fantastic for Watchmen but not so much for Superman.

Patty Jenkins had a much better idea, and I'm hearing a lot of really exciting things about Aquaman / Shazam.

Hopefully, they don't ask Whedon to assume control of the DCEU is influence on Justice League was fucking abominable.
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Tyranthraxus
02/12/18 5:02:51 PM
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leverageblargh posted...
s0nicfan posted...
these directors think, without the same level of formal training, they can do just as well.


It's funny.

Fans never use that same reasoning on themselves, they always feel like they have a right to tell professionals that they're guilty of "bad writing" and that they should have done this, that or the other(basically regurgitated their fantasies on screen).


Writing is typically a mix of what directors + actors want to see and you'll end up where they'll shoot multiple versions of the same story to see what comes out better or what hits it off with target audiences better. The goal isn't to tell a "good story" it's actually just to entertain the viewer which is why Marvel Movies do so well. They're entertaining to watch (For the most part. Thor 1 not withstanding).

For example, in the original First Blood movie, in the book that it's based off of, at the end. Rambo dies Stallone heavily disagreed with this ending and complained up and down until he got the director to agree to shoot a different ending The ending where Rambo lives and is brought in alive When they showed the endings to two different test audiences, the book ending was universally reviled and not in a subtle way, either.

If you have the Blu-ray, you can see the alternate endings They have 2. One where rambo shoots himself, and one where the commander shoots rambo.
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s0nicfan
02/12/18 5:10:05 PM
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leverageblargh posted...
s0nicfan posted...
these directors think, without the same level of formal training, they can do just as well.


It's funny.

Fans never use that same reasoning on themselves, they always feel like they have a right to tell professionals that they're guilty of "bad writing" and that they should have done this, that or the other(basically regurgitated their fantasies on screen).


The thing is, it's much easier to tell when something is bad than it is to make something good from scratch. You don't need to have a writing degree to identify bad writing, but it also doesn't make you qualified to produce something better. That doesn't dismiss the validity of the criticisms, though.
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sktgamer_13dude
02/12/18 5:31:51 PM
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@Gamer99z posted...
Lost_All_Senses posted...
au_gold posted...
You say that, @Gamer99z, yet the only person who consistently argues is you.


Ill keep my eyes open.

You can use that site, search his username and view his topics. There's one where he said the new Cloverfield Netflix movie is his favorite movie of all time.

In a best sitcom topic he listed Big Bang Theory, Young Sheldon, and Mulaney.

He doesn't even try to hide it.

Big Bang Theory is legit good tho. Young Sheldon is meh, not as bad as I thought itd be.

Fight me irl.
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Gamer99z
02/12/18 6:41:15 PM
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
@Gamer99z posted...
Lost_All_Senses posted...
au_gold posted...
You say that, @Gamer99z, yet the only person who consistently argues is you.


Ill keep my eyes open.

You can use that site, search his username and view his topics. There's one where he said the new Cloverfield Netflix movie is his favorite movie of all time.

In a best sitcom topic he listed Big Bang Theory, Young Sheldon, and Mulaney.

He doesn't even try to hide it.

Big Bang Theory is legit good tho. Young Sheldon is meh, not as bad as I thought itd be.

Fight me irl.

Best sitcom of all time though? So many are better.
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Zack_Attackv1
02/12/18 6:46:27 PM
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Good. However, I feel like that's a bum rap with Whedon still around.
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sktgamer_13dude
02/12/18 8:04:37 PM
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Gamer99z posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
@Gamer99z posted...
Lost_All_Senses posted...
au_gold posted...
You say that, @Gamer99z, yet the only person who consistently argues is you.


Ill keep my eyes open.

You can use that site, search his username and view his topics. There's one where he said the new Cloverfield Netflix movie is his favorite movie of all time.

In a best sitcom topic he listed Big Bang Theory, Young Sheldon, and Mulaney.

He doesn't even try to hide it.

Big Bang Theory is legit good tho. Young Sheldon is meh, not as bad as I thought itd be.

Fight me irl.

Best sitcom of all time though? So many are better.

Touch
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008Zulu
02/12/18 8:10:19 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
The move to Whedon sure paid off... ... ... ... ...

I am looking forward to a barefoot Wonder Woman.
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