Current Events > Study indicates that Trump supporters are now unreachable

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https://thedailybanter.com/2018/02/study-shows-trump-supporters-now-basically-unreachable/

the actual study, Polarization, Partisanship and Junk News Consumption over Social Media in the US:

https://www.oii.ox.ac.uk/blog/polarization-partisanship-and-junk-news-consumption-over-social-media-in-the-us/

thoughts?

Is this satire?
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GATTJT posted...

Is this satire?

No, just a tragic lack of self awareness and irony.

Asherlee10 posted...

Annihilated posted...

GATTJT posted...

Is this satire?

No, just a tragic lack of self awareness and irony.

I haven't read the article yet, but why do you say that?

it's a pretty biased opinion piece

never mind, he had a problem with it aside from that for some reason

Asherlee10 posted...

Annihilated posted...

GATTJT posted...

Is this satire?

No, just a tragic lack of self awareness and irony.

I haven't read the article yet, but why do you say that?

They're talking about lack of fact checking, clickbait articles, political bubbles, all things for which the left is famous. I can't even count the number of times I had to correct people about what the wage gap really means, that the Dow Jones is not the economy, that racism is bad, or pretty much anything that can be taught by reading a book or two.

Annihilated posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

Annihilated posted...

GATTJT posted...

Is this satire?

No, just a tragic lack of self awareness and irony.

I haven't read the article yet, but why do you say that?

They're talking about lack of fact checking, clickbait articles, political bubbles, all things for which the left is famous. I can't even count the number of times I had to correct people about what the wage gap really means, that the Dow Jones is not the economy, that racism is bad, or pretty much anything that can be taught by reading a book or two.

I caught the Washington Post selectively editing the Facebook posts of that Portland buss stabber to falsely portray him as a white nationalist who hated Muslims based on alt-right ideology.

Neither side is reachable at this point.

lol both sides guys

D-Lo_BrownTown posted...

Neither side is reachable at this point.

this

smug liberals will read this and pat themselves on the back.

But today's society is so sunken in partisanship, and it goes way beyond Trump.
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Asherlee10 posted...

Okay so I read it.

1. That isn't a study. It's an observation.
2. What they are describing does seem true about extremist alt-right people, but also for extreme leftists.
3. We should all be concerned about how much bullshit is flowing through mainstream media.

I added the actual study since I realized the title was misleading

Topic should be marked for trolling, there was no study lmao
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voldothegr8 posted...

Topic should be marked for trolling, there was no study lmao

There was:
https://www.oii.ox.ac.uk/blog/polarization-partisanship-and-junk-news-consumption-over-social-media-in-the-us/
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Asherlee10 posted...

Without digging into it fully, I'm suspect of a study using Twitter users.

I mean, aside from the misleading media coverage and topic title, the study itself doesn't make any claims beyond the data. It describes social media aggregate data, that's all.
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People like to say "both sides" about anything political and ignore the fact that the policies of one party are way worse than the other.
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ledbowman posted...

People like to say "both sides" about anything political and ignore the fact that the policies of one party are way worse than the other.

Says the person who isn't getting their way.

D-Lo_BrownTown posted...

ledbowman posted...

People like to say "both sides" about anything political and ignore the fact that the policies of one party are way worse than the other.

Says the person who isn't getting their way.

What does that mean?
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Asherlee10 posted...

The problem, as I see it, is the aggregated data is worthless from the start. Social media sites, especially Twitter, will include bots, trolls, etc.

I mean, even if it includes bots and trolls, it still means that this type of media is preferentially flowing through these communities, meaning those who are not bots and trolls are still being exposed to it at an abnormally high rates.

It's a very descriptive study, they don't really infer much from the observations. Important to note that it's not really peer reviewed though.
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Only now unreachable? LMAO
Been that way for a while.
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Asherlee10 posted...

raw data may not include actual people with actual beliefs.

Why does that matter if you are just trying to track the flow of propaganda?
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DarkProto05 posted...

Only now unreachable? LMAO
Been that way for a while.

This. If they were able to be reached by facts, sanity, and basic human dignity, they never would have voted for the lying sack of shit in the first place.
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ledbowman posted...

People like to say "both sides" about anything political and ignore the fact that the policies of one party are way worse than the other.

FrenchCrunch posted...

lol both sides guys

When did the left become so bitter towards moderates?
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I dont need a study to tell me this

Asherlee10 posted...

I suppose I think it matters because if we notice a flow of propaganda, but it is mostly through bots, trolls, fake accounts, etc. then is it really a thing?

Kind of the whole, "If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around, does it make a sound?"

I agree to an extent, however, that seems to be an entirely different question than the one they were trying to address.
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Bloodychess posted...

ledbowman posted...

People like to say "both sides" about anything political and ignore the fact that the policies of one party are way worse than the other.

FrenchCrunch posted...

lol both sides guys

When did the left become so bitter towards moderates?

Why are you calling it even between Trump voters and Hillary voters?
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ItsYourFault posted...

I dont need a study to tell me this

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Bloodychess posted...

When did the left become so bitter towards moderates?

Because as the GOP has moved further right, so has the definition of moderate. The modern GOP denies climate change as a problem, it says even an expansion of background checks is an unconscionable infringement on the second amendment, and at a time of record inequality it has sought to slash taxes on the rich and programs for the poor. There's no virtue in hearing out both sides when one of the sides is wrong.

Now, this criticism of Republicans is not to praise Democrats, who largely suck. But it's ludicrous to pretend they suck equally.
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I can't help but think that people who say "both sides" are just too uninformed too have an opinion so they say both sides to not be embarrassed.
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ledbowman posted...

I can't help but think that people who say "both sides" are just too uninformed too have an opinion so they say both sides to not be embarrassed.

pretty much. in my 37 years I've never seen this much myopia.
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Before I check the methods of the study I have to figure out whether or not it's says something I agree with

Then I'll know whether I can believe it, or whether I have to believe it.

ledbowman posted...

I can't help but think that people who say "both sides" are just too uninformed too have an opinion so they say both sides to not be embarrassed.

Nope it's just that real life is nuanced and everything is way more complicated than your poly sci 101 teacher taught you in college.

Romes187 posted...

ledbowman posted...

I can't help but think that people who say "both sides" are just too uninformed too have an opinion so they say both sides to not be embarrassed.

Nope it's just that real life is nuanced and everything is way more complicated than your poly sci 101 teacher taught you in college.

Ha the guy who thinks everything is the same is trying to tell me about nuance.
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ledbowman posted...

Romes187 posted...

ledbowman posted...

I can't help but think that people who say "both sides" are just too uninformed too have an opinion so they say both sides to not be embarrassed.

Nope it's just that real life is nuanced and everything is way more complicated than your poly sci 101 teacher taught you in college.

Ha the guy who thinks everything is the same is trying to tell me about nuance.

:) no skin off my back my man. Keep on doing you

ledbowman posted...

I can't help but think that people who say "both sides" are just too uninformed too have an opinion so they say both sides to not be embarrassed.

I can't help but think that people who say "that side" are just too uniformed too have a fact based opinion so they just shill for their side so as to not be embarrassed.
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Romes187 posted...

ledbowman posted...

Romes187 posted...

ledbowman posted...

I can't help but think that people who say "both sides" are just too uninformed too have an opinion so they say both sides to not be embarrassed.

Nope it's just that real life is nuanced and everything is way more complicated than your poly sci 101 teacher taught you in college.

Ha the guy who thinks everything is the same is trying to tell me about nuance.

:) no skin off my back my man. Keep on doing you

Lol pathetic
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thanosibe posted...

ledbowman posted...

I can't help but think that people who say "both sides" are just too uninformed too have an opinion so they say both sides to not be embarrassed.

I can't help but think that people who say "that side" are just too uniformed too have a fact based opinion so they just shill for their side so as to not be embarrassed.

good one
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i think antifar's post is being overlooked

Romes187 posted...

Before I check the methods of the study I have to figure out whether or not it's says something I agree with

Then I'll know whether I can believe it, or whether I have to believe it.

Lol.
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FrenchCrunch posted...

i think antifar's post is being overlooked

Because if they acknowledged it they couldn't troll about "both sides".
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Antifar posted...

Bloodychess posted...

When did the left become so bitter towards moderates?

Because as the GOP has moved further right, so has the definition of moderate. The modern GOP denies climate change as a problem, it says even an expansion of background checks is an unconscionable infringement on the second amendment, and at a time of record inequality it has sought to slash taxes on the rich and programs for the poor. There's no virtue in hearing out both sides when one of the sides is wrong.

Now, this criticism of Republicans is not to praise Democrats, who largely suck. But it's ludicrous to pretend they suck equally.

The GOP is an absolute garbage party that loves talking fiscal responsibility while spending ridiculous amounts of money.

The tax cuts were the one good thing they've done along with cutting regulations. Now I'm coming from a very pro business stance because I believe getting people to work and increasing opportunities is the best way to increase wealth. We can have that discussion if you want, but to say "it's wrong because I disagree" is stupid.

I think they are wrong about climate change, but I also think the left is wrong about squeezing ridiculous regulations on business...I believe that most do nothing to help the problem and it's simply politicians grandstanding to their base.

Viewing the entire world and political landscape through intersectionality glasses is something else I feel will hurt in the long run. I am also wary of authoritarians on the right and left

We can see executive power growing at ridiculous rates each time we get a new commander in chief, regardless of party. So what is someone who wants liberty supposed to do other than call out both sides for their garbage?

Annihilated posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

Annihilated posted...

GATTJT posted...

Is this satire?

No, just a tragic lack of self awareness and irony.

I haven't read the article yet, but why do you say that?

They're talking about lack of fact checking, clickbait articles, political bubbles, all things for which the left is famous. I can't even count the number of times I had to correct people about what the wage gap really means, that the Dow Jones is not the economy, that racism is bad, or pretty much anything that can be taught by reading a book or two.

And you had to correct the left and not the right? as those all seem like things the right don't understand.
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Romes187 posted...

I think they are wrong about climate change

Romes187 posted...

ridiculous regulations

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The average Republican is unreachable.
The average Democrat gets blasted by limitless Chad dick.
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