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DK9292 posted...

soulunison2 posted...

I honestly have no idea why hes so pissed st teacher

...I told you why, quite fucking clearly. Because the teachers I had growing up were cowards and bullies who enforced random shit and picked on students as powerplays, and got away with it, because they were teachers. Just like TC.

But like every other teacher, if it's not what YOU want to hear, you just fucking ignore it. Fuck you.

I kinda feel like Im not getting a full story here

soulunison2 posted...

DK9292 posted...

soulunison2 posted...

I honestly have no idea why hes so pissed st teacher

...I told you why, quite fucking clearly. Because the teachers I had growing up were cowards and bullies who enforced random shit and picked on students as powerplays, and got away with it, because they were teachers. Just like TC.

But like every other teacher, if it's not what YOU want to hear, you just fucking ignore it. Fuck you.

I kinda feel like Im not getting a full story here

Of course not. Because it's not the "full story" until it's YOUR version of events, is it?
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soulunison2 posted...

DK9292 posted...

soulunison2 posted...

I honestly have no idea why hes so pissed st teacher

...I told you why, quite fucking clearly. Because the teachers I had growing up were cowards and bullies who enforced random shit and picked on students as powerplays, and got away with it, because they were teachers. Just like TC.

But like every other teacher, if it's not what YOU want to hear, you just fucking ignore it. Fuck you.

I kinda feel like Im not getting a full story here

There are boat loads of terrible teachers and terrible schools. With 100% certainty I can tell everyone here that probably a quarter of all teachers are only there because they couldn't land their "dream job" and backed up on being a teacher. And they hate it.
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DK9292 posted...

soulunison2 posted...

DK9292 posted...

soulunison2 posted...

I honestly have no idea why hes so pissed st teacher

...I told you why, quite fucking clearly. Because the teachers I had growing up were cowards and bullies who enforced random shit and picked on students as powerplays, and got away with it, because they were teachers. Just like TC.

But like every other teacher, if it's not what YOU want to hear, you just fucking ignore it. Fuck you.

I kinda feel like Im not getting a full story here

Of course not. Because it's not the "full story" until it's YOUR version of events, is it?

Im curious man, like give me an example of something that happened to you that make you hate teachers

Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...

soulunison2 posted...

DK9292 posted...

soulunison2 posted...

I honestly have no idea why hes so pissed st teacher

...I told you why, quite fucking clearly. Because the teachers I had growing up were cowards and bullies who enforced random shit and picked on students as powerplays, and got away with it, because they were teachers. Just like TC.

But like every other teacher, if it's not what YOU want to hear, you just fucking ignore it. Fuck you.

I kinda feel like Im not getting a full story here

There are boat loads of terrible teachers and terrible schools. With 100% certainty I can tell everyone here that probably a quarter of all teachers are only there because they couldn't land their "dream job" and backed up on being a teacher. And they hate it.

Oh for sure but something extremely traumatic must have happened to dK for him to hate teachers this much

soulunison2 posted...

DK9292 posted...

soulunison2 posted...

DK9292 posted...

soulunison2 posted...

I honestly have no idea why hes so pissed st teacher

...I told you why, quite fucking clearly. Because the teachers I had growing up were cowards and bullies who enforced random shit and picked on students as powerplays, and got away with it, because they were teachers. Just like TC.

But like every other teacher, if it's not what YOU want to hear, you just fucking ignore it. Fuck you.

I kinda feel like Im not getting a full story here

Of course not. Because it's not the "full story" until it's YOUR version of events, is it?

Im curious man, like give me an example of something that happened to you that make you hate teachers

DK9292 posted...

This is like at my secondary school. You had the choice of a blazer or a waterproof jacket in the school colours, but teachers would go around giving the students shit for not wearing blazers. Even though the blazer was more expensive and the waterproof was given as a cheaper alternative. It was just as TC said; they were showing the kids who were in charge. It was bullying, plain and simple, but nothing happened because they were fucking teachers and nobody DARES challenge a fucking teacher in this shithole of a country.

You're just plain ignoring shit to piss me off now.
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DK9292 posted...

soulunison2 posted...

DK9292 posted...

soulunison2 posted...

DK9292 posted...

soulunison2 posted...

I honestly have no idea why hes so pissed st teacher

...I told you why, quite fucking clearly. Because the teachers I had growing up were cowards and bullies who enforced random shit and picked on students as powerplays, and got away with it, because they were teachers. Just like TC.

But like every other teacher, if it's not what YOU want to hear, you just fucking ignore it. Fuck you.

I kinda feel like Im not getting a full story here

Of course not. Because it's not the "full story" until it's YOUR version of events, is it?

Im curious man, like give me an example of something that happened to you that make you hate teachers

DK9292 posted...

This is like at my secondary school. You had the choice of a blazer or a waterproof jacket in the school colours, but teachers would go around giving the students shit for not wearing blazers. Even though the blazer was more expensive and the waterproof was given as a cheaper alternative. It was just as TC said; they were showing the kids who were in charge. It was bullying, plain and simple, but nothing happened because they were fucking teachers and nobody DARES challenge a fucking teacher in this shithole of a country.

You're just plain ignoring shit to piss me off now.

Give me another example, Im not downplaying your emotions Im just trying to understand the scenario. I teach at a public school so stuff like this isnt what Im used to

knuxnole posted...

soulunison2 posted...

DK9292 posted...

soulunison2 posted...

DK9292 posted...

soulunison2 posted...

I honestly have no idea why hes so pissed st teacher

...I told you why, quite fucking clearly. Because the teachers I had growing up were cowards and bullies who enforced random shit and picked on students as powerplays, and got away with it, because they were teachers. Just like TC.

But like every other teacher, if it's not what YOU want to hear, you just fucking ignore it. Fuck you.

I kinda feel like Im not getting a full story here

Of course not. Because it's not the "full story" until it's YOUR version of events, is it?

Im curious man, like give me an example of something that happened to you that make you hate teachers

Why do you like teachers so much? You are the only person! They suck, useless and are pathetic. Worthless trash.

Im a seventh grade teacher dude

soulunison2 posted...

knuxnole posted...

soulunison2 posted...

DK9292 posted...

soulunison2 posted...

DK9292 posted...

soulunison2 posted...

I honestly have no idea why hes so pissed st teacher

...I told you why, quite fucking clearly. Because the teachers I had growing up were cowards and bullies who enforced random shit and picked on students as powerplays, and got away with it, because they were teachers. Just like TC.

But like every other teacher, if it's not what YOU want to hear, you just fucking ignore it. Fuck you.

I kinda feel like Im not getting a full story here

Of course not. Because it's not the "full story" until it's YOUR version of events, is it?

Im curious man, like give me an example of something that happened to you that make you hate teachers

Why do you like teachers so much? You are the only person! They suck, useless and are pathetic. Worthless trash.

Im a seventh grade teacher dude

I'm sorry to hear that.
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I mean I like it,

Its pretty cool and the students are nice when you reach them

soulunison2 posted...

Give me another example, Im not downplaying your emotions Im just trying to understand the scenario. I teach at a public school so stuff like this isnt what Im used to

I think you're talking shit.

How about the fact that 90% of my school life was spent getting bullied, and I was the one that got punished because it was easier than disciplining the bullies?
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DK9292 posted...

soulunison2 posted...

Give me another example, Im not downplaying your emotions Im just trying to understand the scenario. I teach at a public school so stuff like this isnt what Im used to

I think you're talking shit.

How about the fact that 90% of my school life was spent getting bullied, and I was the one that got punished because it was easier than disciplining the bullies?

Like I said, I am a seventh grade ELA reading/writing teacher in Brooklyn who uses a positive reinforcement based approach to classroom management

Im sorry you went through all that bullying, Im just really curious about it as examining something that has you so hostile against my profession could lead me to changing an approach to what I do in the classroom

Im not downplaying your emotions, Im trying to delve into what exactly went on in your school

What was the grade of and what was the name of a teacher that comes to your head - one who you hated so much? When did your academics start?

DK9292 posted...

soulunison2 posted...

Give me another example, Im not downplaying your emotions Im just trying to understand the scenario. I teach at a public school so stuff like this isnt what Im used to

I think you're talking shit.

How about the fact that 90% of my school life was spent getting bullied, and I was the one that got punished because it was easier than disciplining the bullies?

I would be intrigued to hear what constituted being bullied, and how they punished you if there was no wrong-doing.

I have 100% had to punish students who reacted to bullying as opposed to the bullies because I can only act on what I see and have proof of. Thus I tell every class I'm in not to engage with the antagonistic behaviour of others, because if I spot you retaliating, I have to punish you.
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Genocet_10-325 posted...

soulunison2 posted...

I mean I like it,

Its pretty cool and the students are nice when you reach them

Of course you like it. So many teachers become teachers because they're weak people who get off on being an authoritarian jackass with power.

? Where did you get that assumption from me?

I just like working with kids and I like teaching,

Ive been tutoring since high school dude

Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...

I have 100% had to punish students who reacted to bullying as opposed to the bullies because I can only act on what I see and have proof of. Thus I tell every class I'm in not to engage with the antagonistic behaviour of others, because if I spot you retaliating, I have to punish you.

I think this is wrong. Do you think humans are ragdolls? If someone is being physical with you, you can't just sit there and take it until the teacher notices (which may not ever happen), and you can't expect kids to be little tattletales who run crying to the teacher every time someone starts to mess with them. That will just get them into even worse social situations.
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Sativa_Rose posted...

Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...

I have 100% had to punish students who reacted to bullying as opposed to the bullies because I can only act on what I see and have proof of. Thus I tell every class I'm in not to engage with the antagonistic behaviour of others, because if I spot you retaliating, I have to punish you.

I think this is wrong. Do you think humans are ragdolls? If someone is being physical with you, you can't just sit there and take it until the teacher notices (which may not ever happen), and you can't expect kids to be little tattletales who run crying to the teacher every time someone starts to mess with them. That will just get them into even worse social situations.

Honestly, with my experience in the DoE - bullies are rarely punished until its too late

Look at that kid who killed his bully in the Bronx,

Part of it is the services available in dealing with bullies and how must public schools are stripped of that due to funding

Then theres the idea of punishing, I dont punish in my classroom, I use query to have students assess their emotions and understand what theyre going thru We shouldnt be punishing students

soulunison2 posted...

Genocet_10-325 posted...

soulunison2 posted...

I mean I like it,

Its pretty cool and the students are nice when you reach them

Of course you like it. So many teachers become teachers because they're weak people who get off on being an authoritarian jackass with power.

? Where did you get that assumption from me?

I just like working with kids and I like teaching,

Ive been tutoring since high school dude

From your posts in this topic
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Sativa_Rose posted...

Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...

I have 100% had to punish students who reacted to bullying as opposed to the bullies because I can only act on what I see and have proof of. Thus I tell every class I'm in not to engage with the antagonistic behaviour of others, because if I spot you retaliating, I have to punish you.

I think this is wrong. Do you think humans are ragdolls? If someone is being physical with you, you can't just sit there and take it until the teacher notices (which may not ever happen), and you can't expect kids to be little tattletales who run crying to the teacher every time someone starts to mess with them. That will just get them into even worse social situations.

You have to take responsibility for your actions. Just because you are being antagonized doesn't mean that if you hit a student you get a free pass.
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Genocet_10-325 posted...

soulunison2 posted...

Genocet_10-325 posted...

soulunison2 posted...

I mean I like it,

Its pretty cool and the students are nice when you reach them

Of course you like it. So many teachers become teachers because they're weak people who get off on being an authoritarian jackass with power.

? Where did you get that assumption from me?

I just like working with kids and I like teaching,

Ive been tutoring since high school dude

From your posts in this topic

Classroom management is something teachers need to keep the class rolling dude

Its not to be in control of the student its to be in control of the lesson

once in middle school I saw a kid getting beaten by two older students at recess so I told the teacher on duty because I knew I couldn't do anything about it myself and they didn't even check on him, I just got detention instead for "snitching"

soulunison2 posted...

DK9292 posted...

soulunison2 posted...

Give me another example, Im not downplaying your emotions Im just trying to understand the scenario. I teach at a public school so stuff like this isnt what Im used to

I think you're talking shit.

How about the fact that 90% of my school life was spent getting bullied, and I was the one that got punished because it was easier than disciplining the bullies?

Like I said, I am a seventh grade ELA reading/writing teacher in Brooklyn who uses a positive reinforcement based approach to classroom management

Im sorry you went through all that bullying, Im just really curious about it as examining something that has you so hostile against my profession could lead me to changing an approach to what I do in the classroom

Im not downplaying your emotions, Im trying to delve into what exactly went on in your school

What was the grade and what was the name of a teacher that comes to your head - one who you hated so much?

It wasn't a "grade". It was all through-out Primary, from year 1 to year 7, with every teacher. I remember the deputy head teacher was the worst for it, constantly pressing down on me. And then the head teacher tried to get me into a bullshit problem child class to "help" me that did nothing because I wasn't the problem.

And it continued into Secondary until about Year 3 when I stumbled upon maybe the ONLY teacher that actually gave a shit and went out of his way to help. And he didn't last very long.

Someone in this topic said that a quarter of teachers just don't care. I call horseshit; in my entire thirteen years of education the number of teachers that actually gave a shit about their students can be counted on one hand. College and university were the best years of my life, just because I didn't have people breathing down my fucking neck and trying to "show who was in charge". People say that your school years are the best years of your lives; those people are fucking liars.
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Most kids in middle school DO NOT CARE about the lesson

Unless you're in those "honors" or "gifted' classes no-one cares

I never listened in english class, or math class or science or S.S. Way too boring. We were too busy goofing off, playing DS, or watching videos on our phones haha
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DK9292 posted...

soulunison2 posted...

DK9292 posted...

soulunison2 posted...

Give me another example, Im not downplaying your emotions Im just trying to understand the scenario. I teach at a public school so stuff like this isnt what Im used to

I think you're talking shit.

How about the fact that 90% of my school life was spent getting bullied, and I was the one that got punished because it was easier than disciplining the bullies?

Like I said, I am a seventh grade ELA reading/writing teacher in Brooklyn who uses a positive reinforcement based approach to classroom management

Im sorry you went through all that bullying, Im just really curious about it as examining something that has you so hostile against my profession could lead me to changing an approach to what I do in the classroom

Im not downplaying your emotions, Im trying to delve into what exactly went on in your school

What was the grade and what was the name of a teacher that comes to your head - one who you hated so much?

It wasn't a "grade". It was all through-out Primary, from year 1 to year 7, with every teacher. I remember the deputy head teacher was the worst for it, constantly pressing down on me. And then the head teacher tried to get me into a bullshit problem child class to "help" me that did nothing because I wasn't the problem.

And it continued into Secondary until about Year 3 when I stumbled upon maybe the ONLY teacher that actually gave a shit and went out of his way to help. And he didn't last very long.

Someone in this topic said that a quarter of teachers just don't care. I call horseshit; in my entire thirteen years of education the number of teachers that actually gave a shit about their students can be counted on one hand. College and university were the best years of my life, just because I didn't have people breathing down my fucking neck and trying to "show who was in charge". People say that your school years are the best years of your lives; those people are fucking liars.

Ok ok, Im sorry to hear that dude. What state where you taught in?

Im glad you got through such a tough time and that you managed to have fun in college. When I mention classroom manager it is supposed to be used to help keep a lesson flowing and not to punish or demean a student at all.

Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...

Sativa_Rose posted...

Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...

I have 100% had to punish students who reacted to bullying as opposed to the bullies because I can only act on what I see and have proof of. Thus I tell every class I'm in not to engage with the antagonistic behaviour of others, because if I spot you retaliating, I have to punish you.

I think this is wrong. Do you think humans are ragdolls? If someone is being physical with you, you can't just sit there and take it until the teacher notices (which may not ever happen), and you can't expect kids to be little tattletales who run crying to the teacher every time someone starts to mess with them. That will just get them into even worse social situations.

You have to take responsibility for your actions. Just because you are being antagonized doesn't mean that if you hit a student you get a free pass.

Well there's a big difference between punching someone and trying to shove someone away from you to create space between you and the attacker. In terms of personal responsibility, it's only in the public school system where it seems you can get punished for this, unlike the real world (unless you run into brutal or corrupt cops or something)

soulunison2 posted...

Honestly, with my experience in the DoE - bullies are rarely punished until its too late

Look at that kid who killed his bully in the Bronx,

Part of it is the services available in dealing with bullies and how must public schools are stripped of that due to funding

Indeed, and that can make it hard not to empathize with kids who end up taking drastic measures like that, even if it's obviously something that can't be condoned.
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...

DK9292 posted...

soulunison2 posted...

Give me another example, Im not downplaying your emotions Im just trying to understand the scenario. I teach at a public school so stuff like this isnt what Im used to

I think you're talking shit.

How about the fact that 90% of my school life was spent getting bullied, and I was the one that got punished because it was easier than disciplining the bullies?

I would be intrigued to hear what constituted being bullied, and how they punished you if there was no wrong-doing.

I have 100% had to punish students who reacted to bullying as opposed to the bullies because I can only act on what I see and have proof of. Thus I tell every class I'm in not to engage with the antagonistic behaviour of others, because if I spot you retaliating, I have to punish you.

One day on the way home from school, three other boys cornered me, hit me with rulers and slammed me into a wall. I pushed past one of them to get away from them.

I was the only one of the four punished. I was given detention and made to write a formal apology.

That's one example.
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knuxnole posted...

We were too busy goofing off, playing DS, or watching videos on our phones haha

Okay they needed to lay down the law, kids couldn't get away with this crap when I was growing up. I remember teachers calling out people for texting in class and them getting in trouble.
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And by the way, just want to say thanks for making me re-live all this. Bringing back up all the baggage and bullshit I've tried my best to fucking forget. Half of this shit I've written on the edge of fucking tears, and I can't make my heart stop beating from the anger.
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Some of you guys don't understand my situation.

I'm considered the "nice cool young teacher" The kids will do shit with me they never try with other teachers.

I didn't do it to be mean. I did because I had to.
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knuxnole posted...

Most kids in middle school DO NOT CARE about the lesson

Unless you're in those "honors" or "gifted' classes no-one cares

I never listened in english class, or math class or science or S.S. Way too boring. We were too busy goofing off, playing DS, or watching videos on our phones haha

Then you must have had a pretty bad teacher - my first year teaching in the Bronx was a nightmare man, a kid broke my door opened and jumped another kid during the middle of a lesson

I took time to reflect what went wrong that year and revamped my methodology.

I can guarantee you I dont teach honors and I do teach special education children, its about - in my experience - having a social classroom.

I use a workshop model (look it up) so all the learning is done by the students in an exploration based set up

Okay so tc warned the student once, student did it again, and got in trouble for a rule thats like, universally in every public school?

And people are literally shitting on tc for this?

Jesus christ, you can easily tell who the teenager and/immature dumbasses are in this topic if theyre siding with the kid

And this is coming from a guy who loved to challenge teachers back in high school that i didnt respect.

Anyone who thinks tc is in the wrong either is immature, or just young themselves. Kid is a dumbfuck and this is completely fair, next.

Then again, one of my best friends is a teacher and my oldest sister is one as well, so I sympathize with teachers who have to put up with shitbag kids every weekday.
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Patty_Fleur posted...

Some of you guys don't understand my situation.

I'm considered the "nice cool young teacher" The kids will do shit with me they never try with other teachers.

I didn't do it to be mean. I did because I had to.

Patty_Fleur posted...

It's not about the hood. I honestly don't care. It's about showing the kids who is in charge.

You're a goddamn liar.
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DK9292 posted...

Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...

DK9292 posted...

soulunison2 posted...

Give me another example, Im not downplaying your emotions Im just trying to understand the scenario. I teach at a public school so stuff like this isnt what Im used to

I think you're talking shit.

How about the fact that 90% of my school life was spent getting bullied, and I was the one that got punished because it was easier than disciplining the bullies?

I would be intrigued to hear what constituted being bullied, and how they punished you if there was no wrong-doing.

I have 100% had to punish students who reacted to bullying as opposed to the bullies because I can only act on what I see and have proof of. Thus I tell every class I'm in not to engage with the antagonistic behaviour of others, because if I spot you retaliating, I have to punish you.

One day on the way home from school, three other boys cornered me, hit me with rulers and slammed me into a wall. I pushed past one of them to get away from them.

I was the only one of the four punished. I was given detention and made to write a formal apology.

That's one example.

That is 100% not appropriate from the teacher in question. First of all, pushing and shoving happens. I'm not gonna give detention for bumping and pushing past someone. If someone grabbed the other by the shoulders and physically shoved them, maybe. That's a warning at most though unless it was an ongoing issue.
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Patty_Fleur posted...

Some of you guys don't understand my situation.

I'm considered the "nice cool young teacher" The kids will do shit with me they never try with other teachers.

I didn't do it to be mean. I did because I had to.

This is your first year I bet?

First year is always terrible bro lmao

DK9292 posted...

And by the way, just want to say thanks for making me re-live all this. Bringing back up all the baggage and bullshit I've tried my best to fucking forget. Half of this shit I've written on the edge of fucking tears, and I can't make my heart stop beating from the anger.

Lmao jesus fucking christ grow up
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PlsGodDontBanMe posted...

Okay so tc warned the student once, student did it again, and got in trouble for a rule thats like, universally in every public school?

And people are literally shitting on tc for this?

Jesus christ, you can easily tell who the teenager and/immature dumbasses are in this topic if theyre siding with the kid

And this is coming from a guy who loved to challenge teachers back in high school that i didnt respect.

Anyone who thinks tc is in the wrong either is immature, or just young themselves. Kid is a dumbfuck and this is completely fair, next.

Then again, one of my best friends is a teacher and my oldest sister is one as well, so I sympathize with teachers who have to put up with shitbag kids every weekday.

Were not getting on tc for the hood, he literally admitted it was because he wanted to show his authority

soulunison2 posted...

PlsGodDontBanMe posted...

Okay so tc warned the student once, student did it again, and got in trouble for a rule thats like, universally in every public school?

And people are literally shitting on tc for this?

Jesus christ, you can easily tell who the teenager and/immature dumbasses are in this topic if theyre siding with the kid

And this is coming from a guy who loved to challenge teachers back in high school that i didnt respect.

Anyone who thinks tc is in the wrong either is immature, or just young themselves. Kid is a dumbfuck and this is completely fair, next.

Then again, one of my best friends is a teacher and my oldest sister is one as well, so I sympathize with teachers who have to put up with shitbag kids every weekday.

Were not getting on tc for the hood, he literally admitted it was because he wanted to show his authority

And teachers need to do that at times, or kids will literally walk all over him, ESPECIALLY if hes young.

I dont blame tc at all.
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PlsGodDontBanMe posted...

DK9292 posted...

And by the way, just want to say thanks for making me re-live all this. Bringing back up all the baggage and bullshit I've tried my best to fucking forget. Half of this shit I've written on the edge of fucking tears, and I can't make my heart stop beating from the anger.

Lmao jesus fucking christ grow up

Nah this stuff can be pretty serious, those are important formative years and society fails to properly protect/guide a lot of people.
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PlsGodDontBanMe posted...

soulunison2 posted...

PlsGodDontBanMe posted...

Okay so tc warned the student once, student did it again, and got in trouble for a rule thats like, universally in every public school?

And people are literally shitting on tc for this?

Jesus christ, you can easily tell who the teenager and/immature dumbasses are in this topic if theyre siding with the kid

And this is coming from a guy who loved to challenge teachers back in high school that i didnt respect.

Anyone who thinks tc is in the wrong either is immature, or just young themselves. Kid is a dumbfuck and this is completely fair, next.

Then again, one of my best friends is a teacher and my oldest sister is one as well, so I sympathize with teachers who have to put up with shitbag kids every weekday.

Were not getting on tc for the hood, he literally admitted it was because he wanted to show his authority

And teachers need to do that at times, or kids will literally walk all over him, ESPECIALLY if hes young.

I dont blame tc at all.

Coming from a seventh grade ELA teacher / you dont do stuff like this to apply your authority, you do it to keep the class uniform and to prevent a snowball effect of misbehavior

DK9292 posted...

Patty_Fleur posted...

Some of you guys don't understand my situation.

I'm considered the "nice cool young teacher" The kids will do shit with me they never try with other teachers.

I didn't do it to be mean. I did because I had to.

Patty_Fleur posted...

It's not about the hood. I honestly don't care. It's about showing the kids who is in charge.

You're a goddamn liar.

Dude for real? Can you read?

My first year I was a complete push over. Before you can you teach anything your class has to be under control.

I teach mostly honor kids. They are typically very good and don't act up. Still they are 6th grade kids and they will do what you allow them to do. So it's my job to clamp down and set the right expectations.
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Patty_Fleur posted...

DK9292 posted...

Patty_Fleur posted...

Some of you guys don't understand my situation.

I'm considered the "nice cool young teacher" The kids will do shit with me they never try with other teachers.

I didn't do it to be mean. I did because I had to.

Patty_Fleur posted...

It's not about the hood. I honestly don't care. It's about showing the kids who is in charge.

You're a goddamn liar.

Dude for real? Can you read?

My first year I was a complete push over. Before you can you teach anything your class has to be under control.

I teach mostly honor kids. They are typically very good and don't act up. Still they are 6th grade kids and they will do what you allow them to do. So it's my job to clamp down and set the right expectations.

I highly suggest you find a positive reinforcement workshop my man - you kinda just went to 100% from 0 there

soulunison2 posted...

Patty_Fleur posted...

DK9292 posted...

Patty_Fleur posted...

Some of you guys don't understand my situation.

I'm considered the "nice cool young teacher" The kids will do shit with me they never try with other teachers.

I didn't do it to be mean. I did because I had to.

Patty_Fleur posted...

It's not about the hood. I honestly don't care. It's about showing the kids who is in charge.

You're a goddamn liar.

Dude for real? Can you read?

My first year I was a complete push over. Before you can you teach anything your class has to be under control.

I teach mostly honor kids. They are typically very good and don't act up. Still they are 6th grade kids and they will do what you allow them to do. So it's my job to clamp down and set the right expectations.

I highly suggest you find a positive reinforcement workshop my man - you kinda just went to 100% from 0 there

True. For good reason though. We are coming off a 3 day field trip. I have no time to waste in the classroom so misbehavior won't be tolerated.
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0AbsoluteZero0 posted...

Its disturbing to think that TC is in charge of peoples children.

Who would you like to see managing dozens of students instead, these clowns responding who wouldnt know how to supervise a McDonalds lunch crew?
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Was it repeated defiance? Or did you really give him detention after him putting it back on only one time?

Depending on the grade level, that's incredibly strict.
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soulunison2 posted...

DK9292 posted...

soulunison2 posted...

then people start challenging the teacher

Then maybe it's something that needs to be fucking challenged.

Honestly, like I said - I dont expect anyone who isnt a teacher to understand why we come down so hard on stuff like this

You don't have to be a teacher to understand the importance of respecting authority. Ignore bitter CE neets who probably hate teachers for reasons xyZ.

Patty_Fleur posted...

He had is hood on in class so I told him to take it off. 5-7 minutes he has it back on.

I still don't get why that is even a rule. Same thing with hats.

I think that is kinda harsh to give a lunch detention for something like that.
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MrNintendo1213 posted...

Patty_Fleur posted...

Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...

As a teacher myself, just wondering, is that against dress code? I normally don't care about hoodies or anything unless the school I'm teaching at does.

It's associated with gangs.

It's not about the hood. I honestly don't care. It's about showing the kids who is in charge. I'm a young looking teacher so I try to find opportunities like this to show the kids I mean business.

Oh, okay so you're just being one of those teachers.

If you are not firm with youth, they WILL take advantage of you. Build up that firm rule, then as time goes on, you can loosen up with them provided they show respect.
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Yknow, I never had much a problem with teachers at my school.

Yknow who I always hated? The study hall monitors.

Idk if they were former teachers, or just people they'd grab off the street, or whatever, but they were just the nastiest people. Hated kids, clearly just wanted to be at home. All ladies in their 60s or 70s.

I get needing to be authoritarian to keep control. Study halls literally consisted of throwing 20-25% of the student body in the commons area and enforcing silence for the period. No small feat, if a bad one.

That said, there's authoritarian, then there's yelling "Don't you LOOK at my study hall!" at some poor sap as he walks past. And then giving him detention and an office referral when he looks at you in surprise when you yell, for "insubordination." No, thats no exaggeration. Sad sap here, reporting in.

Let's see... there was also the time I was brand new to the school, just transferred in after being in Montessori style schools my whole life. Was pretty dumb back then, had no idea how public schools even worked, and asked what I presumed was a teacher for directions to the classroom was going to (in fairness the school was laid out very oddly, with lots of offshoot hallways and little rhyme or reason to the numbering system). Got screamed at and given a weeks detention because I unknowingly asked one of these bitches. For asking for directions. Because I apparently "insinuated [she] was stupid."

Ooh, ooh, there was the time I got detention and a referral when they screamed at me to spit out my gum... I didn't have any gum. When I tried to prove such thery gave me detention. When I pretended to spit gum out to placate them, they gave me another. Then when they literally made me stand there, mouth open, while they inspected it, they gave me an office referral for swallowing the gum.

And every time one of these old bats retired theyd somehow find a new one. Just as mean as the last.

Seriously, fuck authoritarianism for authoritarianism's sake. It commanded no respect and made all of us hate them more. If you're going to be punished anyway, what incentive is there for following the rules?
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