Current Events > If marijuana is legalized, will the crime rate go up or down?

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Garioshi 02/07/18 10:20:39 AM #1:	..... Up Down View Results boink --- <cite>Garioshi posted [p:895632180] in If marijua... [t:76293173]...</cite> <quote> ..... Up Down View Results boink</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 02/07/18 10:21:39 AM #2:	Probably no difference. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:895632220] in If marijua... [t:76293173]...</cite> <quote>Probably no difference.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vicedungwinsgam 02/07/18 10:21:49 AM #3:	Poll may as well ask Are you a supercilious, stubborn old prick? With up being yes and down being no --- gee <cite>vicedungwinsgam posted [p:895632228] in If marijua... [t:76293173]...</cite> <quote>Poll may as well ask Are you a supercilious, stubborn old prick? With up being yes and down being no</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinksLiege 02/07/18 10:22:52 AM #4:	You're literally reducing the number of things which are considered a crime. --- This is LinksLiege's signature. It is fantastic. <cite>LinksLiege posted [p:895632280] in If marijua... [t:76293173]...</cite> <quote>You're literally reducing the number of things which are considered a crime.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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vicedungwinsgam 02/07/18 10:23:41 AM #6:	JACKBUTTMOMMY posted... Compared to the rates of arrests and convictions for marijuana you'd have to be jaded on some of the good stuff yourself to think rates will go higher. Bbbbbut everyone will die of a car crash within three days if THE POT is legal! --- gee <cite>vicedungwinsgam posted [p:895632314] in If marijua... [t:76293173]...</cite> <quote><cite>JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...</cite> <quote>Compared to the rates of arrests and convictions for marijuana you'd have to be jaded on some of the good stuff yourself to think rates will go higher.</quote> Bbbbbut everyone will die of a car crash within three days if THE POT is legal!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Garioshi 02/07/18 10:26:36 AM #8:	The Admiral posted... Probably no difference. how so --- <cite>Garioshi posted [p:895632437] in If marijua... [t:76293173]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Probably no difference.</quote> how so</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinksLiege 02/07/18 10:29:12 AM #9:	Garioshi posted... how so Don't take that obvious bait. You're better than this. --- This is LinksLiege's signature. It is fantastic. <cite>LinksLiege posted [p:895632549] in If marijua... [t:76293173]...</cite> <quote><cite>Garioshi posted...</cite> <quote>how so</quote> Don't take that obvious bait. You're better than this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 02/07/18 10:29:13 AM #10:	Garioshi posted... The Admiral posted... Probably no difference. how so Everyone who wants weed now can realistically get it. There won't be an epidemic of people suddenly getting high and breaking the law. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:895632551] in If marijua... [t:76293173]...</cite> <quote><cite>Garioshi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Probably no difference.</quote> how so</quote> Everyone who wants weed now can realistically get it. There won't be an epidemic of people suddenly getting high and breaking the law.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 02/07/18 10:31:34 AM #11:	I don't think the crime rate would change much, but obviously if you are reducing the number of things that are considered a crime than the actual number of crimes should go down. --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8kjZU.jpg <cite>eston posted [p:895632648] in If marijua... [t:76293173]...</cite> <quote>I don't think the crime rate would change much, but obviously if you are reducing the number of things that are considered a crime than the actual number of crimes should go down.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LJRENEGADE 02/07/18 10:35:05 AM #12:	LinksLiege posted... You're literally reducing the number of things which are considered a crime. This, its a crime to smoke weed and by legalizing it, you're technically getting rid of a lot of crime on that alone. <cite>LJRENEGADE posted [p:895632803] in If marijua... [t:76293173]...</cite> <quote><cite>LinksLiege posted...</cite> <quote>You're literally reducing the number of things which are considered a crime.</quote> This, its a crime to smoke weed and by legalizing it, you're technically getting rid of a lot of crime on that alone.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Garioshi 02/08/18 2:44:44 PM #14:	JACKBUTTMOMMY posted... LJRENEGADE posted... LinksLiege posted... You're literally reducing the number of things which are considered a crime. This, its a crime to smoke weed and by legalizing it, you're technically getting rid of a lot of crime on that alone. Not to get all stonery on you but it's technically not a crime to smoke weed. It's a crime to purchase, sell, possess, and manufacture. That said this is why I run a tube to my neughbor's house, Mr. Ching, who does me the favor of keeping my house well ventilated. It's also a crime to possess it. --- <cite>Garioshi posted [p:895711832] in If marijua... [t:76293173]...</cite> <quote><cite>JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LJRENEGADE posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LinksLiege posted...</cite> <quote>You're literally reducing the number of things which are considered a crime.</quote> This, its a crime to smoke weed and by legalizing it, you're technically getting rid of a lot of crime on that alone.</quote> Not to get all stonery on you but it's technically not a crime to smoke weed. It's a crime to purchase, sell, possess, and manufacture. That said this is why I run a tube to my neughbor's house, Mr. Ching, who does me the favor of keeping my house well ventilated.</quote> It's also a crime to possess it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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glitteringfairy 02/08/18 8:15:17 PM #16:	Does Marijuana really have an effect on actual crime besides boosted numbers from bullshit arrests that you could call "crime"? --- "How come you can believe in God but not Bigfoot?" V-E-G-Y http://i.imgur.com/AqR3aeX.jpg http://i.imgur.com/vvuUXpp.jpg https://imgur.com/r9xK2NR <cite>glitteringfairy posted [p:895730958] in If marijua... [t:76293173]...</cite> <quote>Does Marijuana really have an effect on actual crime besides boosted numbers from bullshit arrests that you could call "crime"?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Near_ 02/08/18 8:16:17 PM #17:	Obviously down --- https://i.imgur.com/WyFIJkF.gif This is America, where a lying, cheating degenerate can prosper. <cite>_Near_ posted [p:895731027] in If marijua... [t:76293173]...</cite> <quote>Obviously down</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PMarth2002 02/08/18 8:21:19 PM #18:	Drug charges make up a significant number of arrests, so reducing that should reduce crime. Weed doesn't make people more violent to my knowledge so I don't see why other crimes should go up. --- And as her clothes all tumbled 'round her, I could hear my heart The moonlight shown upon her as she lay back in my bed <cite>PMarth2002 posted [p:895731304] in If marijua... [t:76293173]...</cite> <quote>Drug charges make up a significant number of arrests, so reducing that should reduce crime. Weed doesn't make people more violent to my knowledge so I don't see why other crimes should go up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solar_Crimson 02/08/18 8:26:18 PM #20:	Down. --- http://i.imgur.com/wKOoZkP.jpg http://i.imgur.com/mipFVFw.png http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimson <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:895731554] in If marijua... [t:76293173]...</cite> <quote>Down.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gatorsPENSbucs 02/08/18 8:26:26 PM #21:	glitteringfairy posted... Does Marijuana really have an effect on actual crime besides boosted numbers from bullshit arrests that you could call "crime"? Buddy, well ex buddy, of mine shot and killed a dude over an 8th. --- http://m.imgur.com/BtD5etN?r https://m.imgur.com/a/jclul http://i.imgtc.com/etNW2apANm.jpg <cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted [p:895731564] in If marijua... [t:76293173]...</cite> <quote><cite>glitteringfairy posted...</cite> <quote>Does Marijuana really have an effect on actual crime besides boosted numbers from bullshit arrests that you could call "crime"?</quote> Buddy, well ex buddy, of mine shot and killed a dude over an 8th.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
r4X0r 02/08/18 8:48:47 PM #22:	It's not just the crimes committed by possession, it's all the criminal enterprises that all of a sudden have no reason to exist. --- Smiled as fierce as a forty pounder. <cite>r4X0r posted [p:895732789] in If marijua... [t:76293173]...</cite> <quote>It's not just the crimes committed by possession, it's all the criminal enterprises that all of a sudden have no reason to exist.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 02/08/18 8:50:11 PM #23:	GregShmedley posted... I imagine DUIs would go up Except it's illegal now to drive while under the influence of pot, so ... <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:895732871] in If marijua... [t:76293173]...</cite> <quote><cite>GregShmedley posted...</cite> <quote>I imagine DUIs would go up</quote> Except it's illegal now to drive while under the influence of pot, so ...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vindris_SNH 02/08/18 8:50:50 PM #24:	Crime rate would absolutely, without a doubt, go down. --- glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants? <cite>Vindris_SNH posted [p:895732900] in If marijua... [t:76293173]...</cite> <quote>Crime rate would absolutely, without a doubt, go down.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 02/08/18 8:51:39 PM #25:	Obviously down --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:895732941] in If marijua... [t:76293173]...</cite> <quote>Obviously down</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Syntheticon 02/08/18 9:13:07 PM #26:	Down, because of lower assaults and drug busts --- Mod me? You don't even know me! <cite>Syntheticon posted [p:895734133] in If marijua... [t:76293173]...</cite> <quote>Down, because of lower assaults and drug busts</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kombucha 02/08/18 9:15:09 PM #27:	reefer madness will increase the crime rate. --- http://www.last.fm/user/walkingishonest <cite>Kombucha posted [p:895734219] in If marijua... [t:76293173]...</cite> <quote>reefer madness will increase the crime rate.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
southcoast09 02/08/18 9:15:46 PM #28:	If its dederally legalized, it will go down. DUI rates will go up, but not nearly as much as they get simple possession charges now. --- Stand for the anthem or sit for the game! <cite>southcoast09 posted [p:895734258] in If marijua... [t:76293173]...</cite> <quote>If its dederally legalized, it will go down. DUI rates will go up, but not nearly as much as they get simple possession charges now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CasualGuy 02/08/18 9:16:14 PM #29:	gatorsPENSbucs posted... glitteringfairy posted... Does Marijuana really have an effect on actual crime besides boosted numbers from bullshit arrests that you could call "crime"? Buddy, well ex buddy, of mine shot and killed a dude over an 8th. A kid I went to HS with beat a kid with a trailer hitch because some other kid never paid him. The kid had to get his jaw wired shut. --- http://i.imgur.com/MoE9O68.gif <cite>CasualGuy posted [p:895734281] in If marijua... [t:76293173]...</cite> <quote><cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted...</cite> <quote><cite>glitteringfairy posted...</cite> <quote>Does Marijuana really have an effect on actual crime besides boosted numbers from bullshit arrests that you could call "crime"?</quote> Buddy, well ex buddy, of mine shot and killed a dude over an 8th.</quote> A kid I went to HS with beat a kid with a trailer hitch because some other kid never paid him. The kid had to get his jaw wired shut.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MutantJohn 02/08/18 9:16:19 PM #30:	gatorsPENSbucs posted... glitteringfairy posted... Does Marijuana really have an effect on actual crime besides boosted numbers from bullshit arrests that you could call "crime"? Buddy, well ex buddy, of mine shot and killed a dude over an 8th. Lol imagine murdering someone for $40 worth of weed. Damn, that's 25 to fucking life over an 1/8th? --- "Oh, my mother; oh, my friends, ask the angels, will I ever see heaven again?" - Laura Marling <cite>MutantJohn posted [p:895734286] in If marijua... [t:76293173]...</cite> <quote><cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted...</cite> <quote><cite>glitteringfairy posted...</cite> <quote>Does Marijuana really have an effect on actual crime besides boosted numbers from bullshit arrests that you could call "crime"?</quote> Buddy, well ex buddy, of mine shot and killed a dude over an 8th.</quote> Lol imagine murdering someone for $40 worth of weed. Damn, that's 25 to fucking life over an 1/8th?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Garioshi 02/08/18 9:31:52 PM #31:	JACKBUTTMOMMY posted... Garioshi posted... JACKBUTTMOMMY posted... LJRENEGADE posted... LinksLiege posted... You're literally reducing the number of things which are considered a crime. This, its a crime to smoke weed and by legalizing it, you're technically getting rid of a lot of crime on that alone. Not to get all stonery on you but it's technically not a crime to smoke weed. It's a crime to purchase, sell, possess, and manufacture. That said this is why I run a tube to my neughbor's house, Mr. Ching, who does me the favor of keeping my house well ventilated. It's also a crime to possess it. I said that. I swear to you that word wasn't there when I quoted it --- <cite>Garioshi posted [p:895735098] in If marijua... [t:76293173]...</cite> <quote><cite>JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Garioshi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LJRENEGADE posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LinksLiege posted...</cite> <quote>You're literally reducing the number of things which are considered a crime.</quote> This, its a crime to smoke weed and by legalizing it, you're technically getting rid of a lot of crime on that alone.</quote> Not to get all stonery on you but it's technically not a crime to smoke weed. It's a crime to purchase, sell, possess, and manufacture. That said this is why I run a tube to my neughbor's house, Mr. Ching, who does me the favor of keeping my house well ventilated.</quote> It's also a crime to possess it.</quote> I said that.</quote> I swear to you that word wasn't there when I quoted it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
r4X0r 02/08/18 9:42:59 PM #32:	southcoast09 posted... If its dederally legalized, it will go down. DUI rates will go up, but not nearly as much as they get simple possession charges now. That's assuming that usage will go up. Marijuana is so easily available that the people who want to use it... already do. --- Smiled as fierce as a forty pounder. <cite>r4X0r posted [p:895735661] in If marijua... [t:76293173]...</cite> <quote><cite>southcoast09 posted...</cite> <quote>If its dederally legalized, it will go down. DUI rates will go up, but not nearly as much as they get simple possession charges now.</quote> That's assuming that usage will go up. Marijuana is so easily available that the people who want to use it... already do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StucklnMyPants 02/08/18 10:04:43 PM #33:	r4X0r posted... southcoast09 posted... If its dederally legalized, it will go down. DUI rates will go up, but not nearly as much as they get simple possession charges now. That's assuming that usage will go up. Marijuana is so easily available that the people who want to use it... already do. Regular Joes that use it aren't the ones that go to prison. 99% of the people that are in prison for drug charges, are there because of trafficking charges. And that's the actual statistic, not hyperbole. Around 47% of inmates in federal and state prisons are there because of, or in part to, drug offenses. Marijuana accounts for around 10-15% of that total IIRC. Legalizing marijuana would make a noticeable dent in the prison size. --- Who looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakes. <cite>StucklnMyPants posted [p:895736808] in If marijua... [t:76293173]...</cite> <quote><cite>r4X0r posted...</cite> <quote><cite>southcoast09 posted...</cite> <quote>If its dederally legalized, it will go down. DUI rates will go up, but not nearly as much as they get simple possession charges now.</quote> That's assuming that usage will go up. Marijuana is so easily available that the people who want to use it... already do.</quote> Regular Joes that use it aren't the ones that go to prison. 99% of the people that are in prison for drug charges, are there because of trafficking charges. And that's the actual statistic, not hyperbole. Around 47% of inmates in federal and state prisons are there because of, or in part to, drug offenses. Marijuana accounts for around 10-15% of that total IIRC. Legalizing marijuana would make a noticeable dent in the prison size.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeyPuff 02/08/18 10:06:37 PM #34:	Everybody would be too relaxed to commit crimes --- http://imgur.com/anVgnqe Hi, I'm puff_stinks/___ingGorilla http://imgur.com/YtOjPfY Taxin' that ass <cite>HeyPuff posted [p:895736911] in If marijua... [t:76293173]...</cite> <quote>Everybody would be too relaxed to commit crimes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thanosibe 02/08/18 10:14:31 PM #35:	Dash_Harber posted... GregShmedley posted... I imagine DUIs would go up Except it's illegal now to drive while under the influence of pot, so ... That doesn't stop drunk drivers. It won't stop the same irresponsible person whose drug of choice just happens to be pot. --- I think I need a drink. Almost everybody does only they don't know it. -- Charles Bukowski <cite>thanosibe posted [p:895737349] in If marijua... [t:76293173]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GregShmedley posted...</cite> <quote>I imagine DUIs would go up</quote> Except it's illegal now to drive while under the influence of pot, so ...</quote>That doesn't stop drunk drivers. It won't stop the same irresponsible person whose drug of choice just happens to be pot.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 02/08/18 10:15:33 PM #36:	thanosibe posted... Dash_Harber posted... GregShmedley posted... I imagine DUIs would go up Except it's illegal now to drive while under the influence of pot, so ... That doesn't stop drunk drivers. It won't stop the same irresponsible person whose drug of choice just happens to be pot. Yes, but how will that cause an increase if they are already doing it? <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:895737413] in If marijua... [t:76293173]...</cite> <quote><cite>thanosibe posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GregShmedley posted...</cite> <quote>I imagine DUIs would go up</quote> Except it's illegal now to drive while under the influence of pot, so ...</quote>That doesn't stop drunk drivers. It won't stop the same irresponsible person whose drug of choice just happens to be pot.</quote> Yes, but how will that cause an increase if they are already doing it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thanosibe 02/08/18 10:21:14 PM #37:	Dash_Harber posted... thanosibe posted... Dash_Harber posted... GregShmedley posted... I imagine DUIs would go up Except it's illegal now to drive while under the influence of pot, so ... That doesn't stop drunk drivers. It won't stop the same irresponsible person whose drug of choice just happens to be pot. Yes, but how will that cause an increase if they are already doing it? My bad. Due to the new chain quote thing Greg's post was hidden and I didn't read it. I withdraw my rebuttal. Yeah irresponsible people are already doing it. I guess the only thing that might increase it is if police can pinpoint specifically pot influence over just the genetic umbrella of DUI. Then we might see the numbers of pot vs alcohol. --- I think I need a drink. Almost everybody does only they don't know it. -- Charles Bukowski <cite>thanosibe posted [p:895737759] in If marijua... [t:76293173]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thanosibe posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GregShmedley posted...</cite> <quote>I imagine DUIs would go up</quote> Except it's illegal now to drive while under the influence of pot, so ...</quote>That doesn't stop drunk drivers. It won't stop the same irresponsible person whose drug of choice just happens to be pot.</quote> Yes, but how will that cause an increase if they are already doing it?</quote>My bad. Due to the new chain quote thing Greg's post was hidden and I didn't read it. I withdraw my rebuttal. Yeah irresponsible people are already doing it. I guess the only thing that might increase it is if police can pinpoint specifically pot influence over just the genetic umbrella of DUI. Then we might see the numbers of pot vs alcohol.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 02/08/18 10:25:42 PM #38:	thanosibe posted... Dash_Harber posted... thanosibe posted... Dash_Harber posted... GregShmedley posted... I imagine DUIs would go up Except it's illegal now to drive while under the influence of pot, so ... That doesn't stop drunk drivers. It won't stop the same irresponsible person whose drug of choice just happens to be pot. Yes, but how will that cause an increase if they are already doing it? My bad. Due to the new chain quote thing Greg's post was hidden and I didn't read it. I withdraw my rebuttal. Yeah irresponsible people are already doing it. I guess the only thing that might increase it is if police can pinpoint specifically pot influence over just the genetic umbrella of DUI. Then we might see the numbers of pot vs alcohol. Yeah, but it still wouldn't be a net increase. If DUI was a blanket charge and, let's say, 30 people are charged with DUI, whereas under the new law 15 are charged with DUI under alcohol and 15 are charged with DUI under marijuana, you still have 30 people charged. But yeah, I think we are agreeing more than anything else here. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:895738014] in If marijua... [t:76293173]...</cite> <quote><cite>thanosibe posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thanosibe posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GregShmedley posted...</cite> <quote>I imagine DUIs would go up</quote> Except it's illegal now to drive while under the influence of pot, so ...</quote>That doesn't stop drunk drivers. It won't stop the same irresponsible person whose drug of choice just happens to be pot.</quote> Yes, but how will that cause an increase if they are already doing it?</quote>My bad. Due to the new chain quote thing Greg's post was hidden and I didn't read it. I withdraw my rebuttal. Yeah irresponsible people are already doing it. I guess the only thing that might increase it is if police can pinpoint specifically pot influence over just the genetic umbrella of DUI. Then we might see the numbers of pot vs alcohol.</quote> Yeah, but it still wouldn't be a net increase. If DUI was a blanket charge and, let's say, 30 people are charged with DUI, whereas under the new law 15 are charged with DUI under alcohol and 15 are charged with DUI under marijuana, you still have 30 people charged. But yeah, I think we are agreeing more than anything else here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thanosibe 02/08/18 10:29:20 PM #40:	Dash_Harber posted... thanosibe posted... Dash_Harber posted... thanosibe posted... Dash_Harber posted... GregShmedley posted... I imagine DUIs would go up Except it's illegal now to drive while under the influence of pot, so ... That doesn't stop drunk drivers. It won't stop the same irresponsible person whose drug of choice just happens to be pot. Yes, but how will that cause an increase if they are already doing it? My bad. Due to the new chain quote thing Greg's post was hidden and I didn't read it. I withdraw my rebuttal. Yeah irresponsible people are already doing it. I guess the only thing that might increase it is if police can pinpoint specifically pot influence over just the genetic umbrella of DUI. Then we might see the numbers of pot vs alcohol. Yeah, but it still wouldn't be a net increase. If DUI was a blanket charge and, let's say, 30 people are charged with DUI, whereas under the new law 15 are charged with DUI under alcohol and 15 are charged with DUI under marijuana, you still have 30 people charged. But yeah, I think we are agreeing more than anything else here. Yeah I think we are too. There would have to be a separate law/punishment for driving under pot and alcohol to differentiate the two too see which users are driving under the influence more. Right now non pot users I imagine chalk up most DUIs to alcohol out of ignorance of pot's effects. --- I think I need a drink. Almost everybody does only they don't know it. -- Charles Bukowski <cite>thanosibe posted [p:895738249] in If marijua... [t:76293173]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thanosibe posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thanosibe posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GregShmedley posted...</cite> <quote>I imagine DUIs would go up</quote> Except it's illegal now to drive while under the influence of pot, so ...</quote>That doesn't stop drunk drivers. It won't stop the same irresponsible person whose drug of choice just happens to be pot.</quote> Yes, but how will that cause an increase if they are already doing it?</quote>My bad. Due to the new chain quote thing Greg's post was hidden and I didn't read it. I withdraw my rebuttal. Yeah irresponsible people are already doing it. I guess the only thing that might increase it is if police can pinpoint specifically pot influence over just the genetic umbrella of DUI. Then we might see the numbers of pot vs alcohol.</quote> Yeah, but it still wouldn't be a net increase. If DUI was a blanket charge and, let's say, 30 people are charged with DUI, whereas under the new law 15 are charged with DUI under alcohol and 15 are charged with DUI under marijuana, you still have 30 people charged. But yeah, I think we are agreeing more than anything else here.</quote>Yeah I think we are too. There would have to be a separate law/punishment for driving under pot and alcohol to differentiate the two too see which users are driving under the influence more. Right now non pot users I imagine chalk up most DUIs to alcohol out of ignorance of pot's effects.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nomadic View 02/08/18 10:30:56 PM #41:	Down easily. Most jail-worthy crimes are petty drug offenses. --- {}\\{}(o){}\\//{}//=\\{})){}(< \\//{}{{-{}//\\{} {}xxxxxxxx{};;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;> <cite>Nomadic View posted [p:895738321] in If marijua... [t:76293173]...</cite> <quote>Down easily. Most jail-worthy crimes are petty drug offenses.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
a42ozslushie 02/08/18 10:33:27 PM #42:	Legalizing weed wont even get rid of the black market weed. The problem with legal dispensaries is that they don't reduce the cost if you buy in bulk. An ounce at a dispensary can end up costing you over $400, while you could probably buy it off the streets for $200-$250. Going to dispensaries is only worth it if you don't smoke a lot or if you want to treat yourself to some really fire bud. --- \_o__/ <cite>a42ozslushie posted [p:895738439] in If marijua... [t:76293173]...</cite> <quote>Legalizing weed wont even get rid of the black market weed. The problem with legal dispensaries is that they don't reduce the cost if you buy in bulk. An ounce at a dispensary can end up costing you over $400, while you could probably buy it off the streets for $200-$250. Going to dispensaries is only worth it if you don't smoke a lot or if you want to treat yourself to some really fire bud.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nomadic View 02/08/18 10:36:16 PM #43:	a42ozslushie posted... Legalizing weed wont even get rid of the black market weed. The problem with legal dispensaries is that they don't reduce the cost if you buy in bulk. An ounce at a dispensary can end up costing you over $400, while you could probably buy it off the streets for $200-$250. Going to dispensaries is only worth it if you don't smoke a lot or if you want to treat yourself to some really fire bud. I would never buy weed regardless, but if I were to buy it I would rather pay more to buy from a state licensed dealer than some hooligan on the street. --- {}\\{}(o){}\\//{}//=\\{})){}(< \\//{}{{-{}//\\{} {}xxxxxxxx{};;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;> <cite>Nomadic View posted [p:895738581] in If marijua... [t:76293173]...</cite> <quote><cite>a42ozslushie posted...</cite> <quote>Legalizing weed wont even get rid of the black market weed. The problem with legal dispensaries is that they don't reduce the cost if you buy in bulk. An ounce at a dispensary can end up costing you over $400, while you could probably buy it off the streets for $200-$250. Going to dispensaries is only worth it if you don't smoke a lot or if you want to treat yourself to some really fire bud.</quote> I would never buy weed regardless, but if I were to buy it I would rather pay more to buy from a state licensed dealer than some hooligan on the street.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Second_Chances 02/08/18 10:38:30 PM #44:	it'll go sideways <cite>Second_Chances posted [p:895738695] in If marijua... [t:76293173]...</cite> <quote>it'll go sideways</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lil_Bit83 02/08/18 10:40:53 PM #45:	It'll stay about the same I think. --- I'm a chick <cite>Lil_Bit83 posted [p:895738814] in If marijua... [t:76293173]...</cite> <quote>It'll stay about the same I think.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PMarth2002 02/08/18 11:08:42 PM #46:	gatorsPENSbucs posted... glitteringfairy posted... Does Marijuana really have an effect on actual crime besides boosted numbers from bullshit arrests that you could call "crime"? Buddy, well ex buddy, of mine shot and killed a dude over an 8th. Think he still would have if he could just go to a store and buy an 8th? --- And as her clothes all tumbled 'round her, I could hear my heart The moonlight shown upon her as she lay back in my bed <cite>PMarth2002 posted [p:895740179] in If marijua... [t:76293173]...</cite> <quote><cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted...</cite> <quote><cite>glitteringfairy posted...</cite> <quote>Does Marijuana really have an effect on actual crime besides boosted numbers from bullshit arrests that you could call "crime"?</quote> Buddy, well ex buddy, of mine shot and killed a dude over an 8th.</quote> Think he still would have if he could just go to a store and buy an 8th?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KillerKhan420 02/08/18 11:12:09 PM #47:	I used to smoke....but no, it'll stay the same. It'll still be regulated big time and DUI will go up even further because dumbass citizens will think that since it's legal it's fine to drive stoned. --- "I know how the business works because I'm a wrestling fan"-hulkhogan1 <cite>KillerKhan420 posted [p:895740344] in If marijua... [t:76293173]...</cite> <quote>I used to smoke....but no, it'll stay the same. It'll still be regulated big time and DUI will go up even further because dumbass citizens will think that since it's legal it's fine to drive stoned.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sativa_Rose 02/08/18 11:14:07 PM #48:	a42ozslushie posted... Legalizing weed wont even get rid of the black market weed. The problem with legal dispensaries is that they don't reduce the cost if you buy in bulk. An ounce at a dispensary can end up costing you over $400, while you could probably buy it off the streets for $200-$250. Going to dispensaries is only worth it if you don't smoke a lot or if you want to treat yourself to some really fire bud. Actually here in Oregon the price at the legal places has gone down so much that it's like that same price range for an ounce here legally as what you quoted for the black market. There are $100 ounces but it's not very good weed compared to the 25 - 30% top shelf flower I exclusively smoke --- I may not go down in history, but I will go down on your sister. <cite>Sativa_Rose posted [p:895740435] in If marijua... [t:76293173]...</cite> <quote><cite>a42ozslushie posted...</cite> <quote>Legalizing weed wont even get rid of the black market weed. The problem with legal dispensaries is that they don't reduce the cost if you buy in bulk. An ounce at a dispensary can end up costing you over $400, while you could probably buy it off the streets for $200-$250. Going to dispensaries is only worth it if you don't smoke a lot or if you want to treat yourself to some really fire bud.</quote> Actually here in Oregon the price at the legal places has gone down so much that it's like that same price range for an ounce here legally as what you quoted for the black market. There are $100 ounces but it's not very good weed compared to the 25 - 30% top shelf flower I exclusively smoke</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Garioshi 02/08/18 11:17:24 PM #49:	KillerKhan420 posted... I used to smoke....but no, it'll stay the same. It'll still be regulated big time and DUI will go up even further because dumbass citizens will think that since it's legal it's fine to drive stoned. So you think that roughlu the same number of people will be driving under the influence of weed as the current number possessing or dealing it? --- <cite>Garioshi posted [p:895740641] in If marijua... [t:76293173]...</cite> <quote><cite>KillerKhan420 posted...</cite> <quote>I used to smoke....but no, it'll stay the same. It'll still be regulated big time and DUI will go up even further because dumbass citizens will think that since it's legal it's fine to drive stoned.</quote> So you think that roughlu the same number of people will be driving under the influence of weed as the current number possessing or dealing it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gatorsPENSbucs 02/08/18 11:52:10 PM #50:	MutantJohn posted... gatorsPENSbucs posted... glitteringfairy posted... Does Marijuana really have an effect on actual crime besides boosted numbers from bullshit arrests that you could call "crime"? Buddy, well ex buddy, of mine shot and killed a dude over an 8th. Lol imagine murdering someone for $40 worth of weed. Damn, that's 25 to fucking life over an 1/8th? Yup. Kid was like 18 maybe too, pretty nuts. Behind a dumpster and left the body. --- http://m.imgur.com/BtD5etN?r https://m.imgur.com/a/jclul http://i.imgtc.com/etNW2apANm.jpg <cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted [p:895742305] in If marijua... [t:76293173]...</cite> <quote><cite>MutantJohn posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted...</cite> <quote><cite>glitteringfairy posted...</cite> <quote>Does Marijuana really have an effect on actual crime besides boosted numbers from bullshit arrests that you could call "crime"?</quote> Buddy, well ex buddy, of mine shot and killed a dude over an 8th.</quote> Lol imagine murdering someone for $40 worth of weed. Damn, that's 25 to fucking life over an 1/8th?</quote> Yup. Kid was like 18 maybe too, pretty nuts. Behind a dumpster and left the body.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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