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frozenshock
02/04/18 5:20:13 PM
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This guy collected a whole gallery of them:

http://www.debito.org/roguesgallery.html

Imagine the backslash if a store in the US did something like that
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EbonTitanium
02/04/18 5:21:16 PM
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Yes.
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TheVipaGTS
02/04/18 5:22:48 PM
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Its pretty fucked up.
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Tezlok
02/04/18 5:23:33 PM
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people think America is the most racist place in the world. they are wrong.
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TheVipaGTS
02/04/18 5:24:43 PM
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Tezlok posted...
people think America is the most racist place in the world. they are wrong.

if we didn't have laws preventing this type of shit many places in America would be doing the same exact thing, don't kid yourself...
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_BlueMonk
02/04/18 5:26:17 PM
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Tezlok posted...
people think America is the most racist place in the world. they are wrong.

lmao. cops shoot black people dead and the streets

"yeah but i can't go into this restaurant!!!"
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Tezlok
02/04/18 5:33:10 PM
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_BlueMonk posted...
Tezlok posted...
people think America is the most racist place in the world. they are wrong.

lmao. cops shoot black people dead and the streets

"yeah but i can't go into this restaurant!!!"

america is one of the least racist countries on earth. most countries don't have our diversity and a homogenized nation is a racist nation.
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Thelema
02/04/18 5:34:44 PM
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Lol fuck that. 99,5% of their country is Japanese, why are foreigners even a problem to them? Petty.
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DeanAuryn
02/04/18 5:36:39 PM
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Their country, their rules.
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DeanAuryn
02/04/18 5:45:58 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
DeanAuryn posted...
Their country, their rules.

Nope. Racism is unacceptable period.


If the Japanese want to discriminate against foreigners in Japan then its their right to do so.
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Thelema
02/04/18 5:46:00 PM
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DeanAuryn posted...
Their country, their rules.


Yeah, I agree, I just think it is fucking stupid for a secular democracy's standards. But whatever.
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Metro2
02/04/18 5:46:16 PM
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Only in Saudi Japania

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dave_is_slick
02/04/18 5:46:53 PM
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DeanAuryn posted...
Their country, their rules.

Shut up.
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Tezlok
02/04/18 5:48:34 PM
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they even do this to actual Japanese. there was a story where this white guy married a japanese woman and had 2 daughters. one daughter looked like her mom. the other daughter took after her father. she was half japanese, born to a japanese mother, born in Japan, a japanese citizen, lived in japan her whole life. but she got kicked out of a public bathhouse cause she looked like a foreigner
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DeanAuryn
02/04/18 5:48:39 PM
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dave_is_slick posted...
DeanAuryn posted...
Their country, their rules.

Shut up.


Shut the fuck up.
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Duncanwii
02/04/18 5:49:15 PM
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DeanAuryn posted...
Duncanwii posted...
DeanAuryn posted...
Their country, their rules.

Nope. Racism is unacceptable period.


If the Japanese want to discriminate against foreigners in Japan then its their right to do so.

No. Racism, as well as religious extremism, have been the causes of every evil event in the world's history. The sooner it's eradicated the better the world will be.
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JE19426
02/04/18 5:49:26 PM
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Tezlok posted...
they even do this to actual Japanese. there was a story where this white guy married a japanese woman and had 2 daughters. one daughter looked like her mom. the other daughter took after her father. she was half japanese, born to a japanese mother, born in Japan, a japanese citizen, lived in japan her whole life. but she got kicked out of a public bathhouse cause she looked like a foreigner


That's actually against the law in Japan.
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Romes187
02/04/18 5:49:59 PM
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Looks like they miss out on the foreign business then. Some other business is making money from their signs.
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DeanAuryn
02/04/18 5:50:07 PM
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It's not your country (presumably). The Japanese can run their country how they want.
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TheVipaGTS
02/04/18 5:51:08 PM
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DeanAuryn posted...
It's not your country (presumably). The Japanese can run their country how they want.

Sure they can. it doesn't mean they can't be criticized. in some countries you can be killed for being Gay. should i not be allowed to say that is terrible and barbaric?
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dave_is_slick
02/04/18 5:51:34 PM
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DeanAuryn posted...
It's not your country (presumably). The Japanese can run their country how they want.

Nah, bad shit deserves to get called out.
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DeanAuryn
02/04/18 5:52:19 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
DeanAuryn posted...
It's not your country (presumably). The Japanese can run their country how they want.

Sure they can. it doesn't mean they can't be criticized. in some countries you can be killed for being Gay. should i not be allowed to say that is terrible and barbaric?


Big difference between having to walk a few metres to a different etablishment and losing your life.
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dave_is_slick
02/04/18 5:53:16 PM
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DeanAuryn posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
DeanAuryn posted...
It's not your country (presumably). The Japanese can run their country how they want.

Sure they can. it doesn't mean they can't be criticized. in some countries you can be killed for being Gay. should i not be allowed to say that is terrible and barbaric?


Big difference between having to walk a few metres to a different etablishment and losing your life.

So you're trolling.
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TheVipaGTS
02/04/18 5:53:35 PM
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DeanAuryn posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
DeanAuryn posted...
It's not your country (presumably). The Japanese can run their country how they want.

Sure they can. it doesn't mean they can't be criticized. in some countries you can be killed for being Gay. should i not be allowed to say that is terrible and barbaric?


Big difference between having to walk a few metres to a different etablishment and losing your life.

i'm not comparing the two things. but "their country their rules" right? who are we to say anything....you can't selectively choose where you apply your "their country their rules" logic to...Criticism is Criticism. I'm not protesting in Tokyo demanding this gets changed. I'm looking at something that is stupid and calling it that. Stupid.
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DeanAuryn
02/04/18 5:54:03 PM
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dave_is_slick posted...
DeanAuryn posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
DeanAuryn posted...
It's not your country (presumably). The Japanese can run their country how they want.

Sure they can. it doesn't mean they can't be criticized. in some countries you can be killed for being Gay. should i not be allowed to say that is terrible and barbaric?


Big difference between having to walk a few metres to a different etablishment and losing your life.

So you're trolling.


No, its you who is trolling. Youre bringing up totally unrelated subjects.
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Tyranthraxus
02/04/18 5:54:51 PM
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frozenshock posted...
This guy collected a whole gallery of them:

http://www.debito.org/roguesgallery.html

Imagine the backslash if a store in the US did something like that

Japan has an official language. USA does not.
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Axiom
02/04/18 5:54:52 PM
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Japan is a shitty country to live in if you aren't Japanese
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FLUFFYGERM
02/04/18 5:55:43 PM
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*Saudi Arabia executes gay person*

"Who cares it's their country. Their country their rules." - @DeanAuryn
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DeanAuryn
02/04/18 5:55:58 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
DeanAuryn posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
DeanAuryn posted...
It's not your country (presumably). The Japanese can run their country how they want.

Sure they can. it doesn't mean they can't be criticized. in some countries you can be killed for being Gay. should i not be allowed to say that is terrible and barbaric?


Big difference between having to walk a few metres to a different etablishment and losing your life.

i'm not comparing the two things. but "their country their rules" right? who are we to say anything....you can't selectively choose where you apply your "their country their rules" logic to...Criticism is Criticism. I'm not protesting in Tokyo demanding this gets changed. I'm looking at something that is stupid and calling it that. Stupid.


I agree its stupid by our standards. But they have a different culture. In their own country they can practice their culture/beliefs/views as they want.
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TheVipaGTS
02/04/18 5:56:00 PM
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DeanAuryn posted...
dave_is_slick posted...
DeanAuryn posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
DeanAuryn posted...
It's not your country (presumably). The Japanese can run their country how they want.

Sure they can. it doesn't mean they can't be criticized. in some countries you can be killed for being Gay. should i not be allowed to say that is terrible and barbaric?


Big difference between having to walk a few metres to a different etablishment and losing your life.

So you're trolling.


No, its you who is trolling. Youre bringing up totally unrelated subjects.

So you just really like Anime and wanted to defend Japan but when presented with a flaw in your logic decided to troll....got it.
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dave_is_slick
02/04/18 5:56:20 PM
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DeanAuryn posted...
No, its you who is trolling. Youre bringing up totally unrelated subjects.

He is? How? Please actually explain instead of repeating "their country their rules", it makes it seem like you can't actually defend why this isn't stupid and racist.
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DeanAuryn
02/04/18 5:57:39 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
*Saudi Arabia executes gay person*

"Who cares it's their country. Their country their rules." - @DeanAuryn


Dont shitpost and attribute things I havent said to me.

When peoples lives are on the line we should call it out. But not necessarily when they have to walk to the next shop.
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r4X0r
02/04/18 5:58:15 PM
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Guarantee that even if you were the most American looking American that ever lived and you walked into one of those places and started speaking fluent Japanese they'd serve you.
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DeanAuryn
02/04/18 5:58:55 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
DeanAuryn posted...
dave_is_slick posted...
DeanAuryn posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
DeanAuryn posted...
It's not your country (presumably). The Japanese can run their country how they want.

Sure they can. it doesn't mean they can't be criticized. in some countries you can be killed for being Gay. should i not be allowed to say that is terrible and barbaric?


Big difference between having to walk a few metres to a different etablishment and losing your life.

So you're trolling.


No, its you who is trolling. Youre bringing up totally unrelated subjects.

So you just really like Anime and wanted to defend Japan but when presented with a flaw in your logic decided to troll....got it.


NEVER say that again.
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kirbymuncher
02/04/18 5:59:16 PM
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it's dumb but not particularly shocking
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FLUFFYGERM
02/04/18 5:59:19 PM
#37:


DeanAuryn posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
*Saudi Arabia executes gay person*

"Who cares it's their country. Their country their rules." - @DeanAuryn


Dont shitpost and attribute things I havent said to me.

When peoples lives are on the line we should call it out. But not necessarily when they have to walk to the next shop.


"Who cares if black people have to walk to the next shop? We shouldn't call out the shop that has a White People Only sign in the window!" - DeanAuryn in the year of our Lord 2018
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frozenshock
02/04/18 6:00:54 PM
#38:


Tezlok posted...
they even do this to actual Japanese. there was a story where this white guy married a japanese woman and had 2 daughters. one daughter looked like her mom. the other daughter took after her father. she was half japanese, born to a japanese mother, born in Japan, a japanese citizen, lived in japan her whole life. but she got kicked out of a public bathhouse cause she looked like a foreigner


@Tezlok

Well, in fact, the white guy in question is the webmaster of the website I posted.
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Prestoff
02/04/18 6:02:56 PM
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Thanks Logan Paul
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GiftedACIII
02/04/18 6:03:19 PM
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Tezlok posted...
people think America is the most racist place in the world. they are wrong.

There are exponentially less of these establishments in Japan than there are cops murdering unarmed minorities and getting paid vacation in the US in a month. Japan routinely ranks much higher than the US in every worldwide reputation surveys. Don't kid yourself.
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TheVipaGTS
02/04/18 6:03:26 PM
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Truthfully not every place does so don't let it skew your opinion on Japan. Japan as a nation is fairly Xenophobic and not at all open to many other cultures, but not every place is completely against others experiencing their own culture. They also have a lot of places from other cultures that people in Japan like to vist....seemingly as long as it stays as more of a tourist attraction/novelty place.
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r4X0r
02/04/18 6:05:38 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
Truthfully not every place does so don't let it skew your opinion on Japan. Japan as a nation is fairly Xenophobic and not at all open to many other cultures, but not every place is completely against others experiencing their own culture. They also have a lot of places from other cultures that people in Japan like to vist....seemingly as long as it stays as more of a tourist attraction/novelty place.


Now... there's "xenophobia" and then there's a rational observation that other cultures clash with yours. Japanese people realizing that Western culture has some obvious head butting with theirs doesn't make them "xenophobic" as it's not an irrational fear, it's simple reason.
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masticatingman
02/04/18 6:05:50 PM
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Its fucked. Japanese culture is infamous for basically encouraging xenophobia. Oh well. At least they got Zen Buddhism.
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Key
02/04/18 6:07:41 PM
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I like how some of the same people upset about this support those Christian stores refusing to serve Gay people
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02/04/18 6:07:50 PM
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KillerKhan420
02/04/18 6:07:50 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
DeanAuryn posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
*Saudi Arabia executes gay person*

"Who cares it's their country. Their country their rules." - @DeanAuryn


Dont shitpost and attribute things I havent said to me.

When peoples lives are on the line we should call it out. But not necessarily when they have to walk to the next shop.


"Who cares if black people have to walk to the next shop? We shouldn't call out the shop that has a White People Only sign in the window!" - DeanAuryn in the year of our Lord 2018


Quit the virtue signaling, it's old.

It's Japan, the Japanese live in Japan. They can do what they want, they don't want forced multiculturalism and that's fine, leave them be. Go protest Saudi Arabia about the whole execution thing, but wait, you'll be an islamaphobe if you do.
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metralo
02/04/18 6:08:52 PM
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masticatingman posted...
Japanese culture is infamous for basically encouraging xenophobia


this

however, there's a reason so many alt-righters and trump voters are wildly obsessed with japan.
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Tezlok
02/04/18 6:11:07 PM
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Japan is more conservative than people think. many of America's liberals love Japanese culture despite the fact that in actual Japan, the conservatives tend to rule. Japan's version of the Republicans usually crushes their version of Democrats.
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smoke_break
02/04/18 6:12:09 PM
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What happens if a foreigner still went in? Are they going to call the police? Will the police enforce the racism?
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TheVipaGTS
02/04/18 6:14:01 PM
#50:


smoke_break posted...
What happens if a foreigner still went in? Are they going to call the police? Will the police enforce the racism?

I'd imagine its like if a place here in the states wanted to kick out someone who wasn't wearing a shirt. they don't have laws against this so it really is their rules and the police would enforce that.
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Tezlok
02/04/18 6:14:30 PM
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smoke_break posted...
What happens if a foreigner still went in? Are they going to call the police? Will the police enforce the racism?

it probably depends on where it is. like if this was Tokyo, the cops will probably take the foreigners side. at least in the sense that they won't arrest him. they might still encourage him to leave to "avoid conflict". or something like that. but they won't arrest them or charge them with anything. now in like a small village in rural japan? the local cop there might arrest you. or least be a real jerk about it and threaten to arrest you.
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