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pres_madagascar
01/30/18 10:32:39 PM
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01/30/18 10:35:58 PM
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Remember to breathe, folks.
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Bat178
01/30/18 10:36:31 PM
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You mean the 1980's?
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armandro
01/30/18 10:44:28 PM
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pres_madagascar
01/30/18 11:16:08 PM
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JustMonika
01/30/18 11:17:09 PM
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I mean weren't kids taught to hide under their desks? If a school desk can protect you from nuclear weaponry they can't be that bad.
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josifrees
01/30/18 11:19:10 PM
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You mean never? There has never been a time in history where any country has been asking for nuclear proliferation.
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pres_madagascar
01/30/18 11:19:33 PM
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josifrees posted...
You mean never? There has never been a time in history where any country has been asking for nuclear proliferation.

Lmfao
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Tmaster148
01/30/18 11:20:02 PM
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JustMonika posted...
I mean weren't kids taught to hide under their desks? If a school desk can protect you from nuclear weaponry they can't be that bad.


The hiding under the desk thing wouldn't really help if you are at all near the blast. It might protect you from things being blown by the sheer force of the blast if you are far away, but you still have to deal with all that radiation.

Really it was just to give people a sense that they could do something in the case of a nuclear bomb rather than being good advice.
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TheVipaGTS
01/30/18 11:20:47 PM
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why do we need more? i don't get it...why is what we have not enough? is he planning on using THAT many at some point? does the really think this kind of talk scares other nations? why is he saying this shit?
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BLAKUboy
01/30/18 11:22:29 PM
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Reminder: Trump doesn't know what the Nuclear Triad is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QxBJkfYk68


He also called nuclear proliferation "the biggest problem we have today".
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masterpug53
01/30/18 11:22:36 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
JustMonika posted...
I mean weren't kids taught to hide under their desks? If a school desk can protect you from nuclear weaponry they can't be that bad.


The hiding under the desk thing wouldn't really help if you are at all near the blast. It might protect you from things being blown by the sheer force of the blast if you are far away, but you still have to deal with all that radiation.

Really it was just to give people a sense that they could do something in the case of a nuclear bomb rather than being good advice.


Every child should have their own refrigerator to climb into during a nuclear emergency.
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pres_madagascar
01/30/18 11:22:42 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
JustMonika posted...
I mean weren't kids taught to hide under their desks? If a school desk can protect you from nuclear weaponry they can't be that bad.


The hiding under the desk thing wouldn't really help if you are at all near the blast. It might protect you from things being blown by the sheer force of the blast if you are far away, but you still have to deal with all that radiation.

Really it was just to give people a sense that they could do something in the case of a nuclear bomb rather than being good advice.

The desk thing is to protect from debris, but honestly if you're anywhere close enough to either be incinerated or get a major dose of radiation, you're fucked regardless.

TheVipaGTS posted...
why do we need more? i don't get it...why is what we have not enough? is he planning on using THAT many at some point? does the really think this kind of talk scares other nations? why is he saying this shit?

We already have so many.
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Bat178
01/30/18 11:23:07 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
why do we need more? i don't get it...why is what we have not enough? is he planning on using THAT many at some point? does the really think this kind of talk scares other nations? why is he saying this shit?

He doesn't understand how they work and thinks they are just really big bombs, and is trying to intimidate other nations.
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Tmaster148
01/30/18 11:26:19 PM
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pres_madagascar posted...

The desk thing is to protect from debris, but honestly if you're anywhere close enough to either be incinerated or get a major dose of radiation, you're fucked regardless.


Yeah, though even at the outskirts of the bomb radius there will be extreme heat causing severe burns. You really aren't safe at all if you aren't in a bomb shelter during a nuclear bomb drop and you are in the area.
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josifrees
01/30/18 11:29:21 PM
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pres_madagascar posted...
josifrees posted...
You mean never? There has never been a time in history where any country has been asking for nuclear proliferation.

Lmfao


???? Explain yourself?? Why would a country want to lose its leverage and power??
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pres_madagascar
01/30/18 11:36:16 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
pres_madagascar posted...

The desk thing is to protect from debris, but honestly if you're anywhere close enough to either be incinerated or get a major dose of radiation, you're fucked regardless.


Yeah, though even at the outskirts of the bomb radius there will be extreme heat causing severe burns. You really aren't safe at all if you aren't in a bomb shelter during a nuclear bomb drop and you are in the area.

With today's bombs, they're such efficient killers its pretty bad.
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pres_madagascar
01/30/18 11:36:58 PM
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josifrees posted...
pres_madagascar posted...
josifrees posted...
You mean never? There has never been a time in history where any country has been asking for nuclear proliferation.

Lmfao


???? Explain yourself?? Why would a country want to lose its leverage and power??

We have the most nuclear weapons of any country on earth. Even Russia. We don't need more.
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008Zulu
01/30/18 11:40:51 PM
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I suspect that this comes in light of the fact, that Russia has developed an underwater drone that can deliver a nuclear payload.
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Bat178
01/30/18 11:42:27 PM
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pres_madagascar posted...
josifrees posted...
pres_madagascar posted...
josifrees posted...
You mean never? There has never been a time in history where any country has been asking for nuclear proliferation.

Lmfao


???? Explain yourself?? Why would a country want to lose its leverage and power??

We have the most nuclear weapons of any country on earth. Even Russia. We don't need more.

Actually, Russia has more.
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TheVipaGTS
01/30/18 11:42:51 PM
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008Zulu posted...
I suspect that this comes in light of the fact, that Russia has developed an underwater drone that can deliver a nuclear payload.

meanwhile, he refuses to impose any sort of sanctions on them..its all bull shit.
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pres_madagascar
01/31/18 12:19:40 AM
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008Zulu posted...
I suspect that this comes in light of the fact, that Russia has developed an underwater drone that can deliver a nuclear payload.

To be fair, it's entirely possible we do too.

Bat178 posted...
pres_madagascar posted...
josifrees posted...
pres_madagascar posted...
josifrees posted...
You mean never? There has never been a time in history where any country has been asking for nuclear proliferation.

Lmfao


???? Explain yourself?? Why would a country want to lose its leverage and power??

We have the most nuclear weapons of any country on earth. Even Russia. We don't need more.

Actually, Russia has more.

Russia has more actual warheads, we have more warheads attached to intercontinental ballistic Mississippi than they do.
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CableZL
01/31/18 12:25:02 AM
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pres_madagascar posted...
008Zulu posted...
I suspect that this comes in light of the fact, that Russia has developed an underwater drone that can deliver a nuclear payload.

To be fair, it's entirely possible we do too.

Bat178 posted...
pres_madagascar posted...
josifrees posted...
pres_madagascar posted...
josifrees posted...
You mean never? There has never been a time in history where any country has been asking for nuclear proliferation.

Lmfao


???? Explain yourself?? Why would a country want to lose its leverage and power??

We have the most nuclear weapons of any country on earth. Even Russia. We don't need more.

Actually, Russia has more.

Russia has more actual warheads, we have more warheads attached to intercontinental ballistic Mississippi than they do.

Lol'd at intercontinental ballistic Mississippi

I wouldn't wish Mississippi on anyone
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DarkDragon400
01/31/18 12:25:21 AM
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pres_madagascar posted...
008Zulu posted...
I suspect that this comes in light of the fact, that Russia has developed an underwater drone that can deliver a nuclear payload.

To be fair, it's entirely possible we do too.

Bat178 posted...
pres_madagascar posted...
josifrees posted...
pres_madagascar posted...
josifrees posted...
You mean never? There has never been a time in history where any country has been asking for nuclear proliferation.

Lmfao


???? Explain yourself?? Why would a country want to lose its leverage and power??

We have the most nuclear weapons of any country on earth. Even Russia. We don't need more.

Actually, Russia has more.

Russia has more actual warheads, we have more warheads attached to intercontinental ballistic Mississippi than they do.

Can we launch Florida instead?
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AmonAmarth
01/31/18 12:26:54 AM
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i think the russians and americans have fairly close numbers.

whats nuclear profliferation?

does he want to become another macarther?
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pres_madagascar
01/31/18 12:27:37 AM
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AmonAmarth posted...
i think the russians and americans have fairly close numbers.

whats nuclear profliferation?

does he want to become another macarther?

Nuclear proliferation = mass making and stockpiling nukes.
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NES4EVER
01/31/18 12:28:22 AM
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pres_madagascar posted...
008Zulu posted...
I suspect that this comes in light of the fact, that Russia has developed an underwater drone that can deliver a nuclear payload.

To be fair, it's entirely possible we do too.

Bat178 posted...
pres_madagascar posted...
josifrees posted...
pres_madagascar posted...
josifrees posted...
You mean never? There has never been a time in history where any country has been asking for nuclear proliferation.

Lmfao


???? Explain yourself?? Why would a country want to lose its leverage and power??

We have the most nuclear weapons of any country on earth. Even Russia. We don't need more.

Actually, Russia has more.

Russia has more actual warheads, we have more warheads attached to intercontinental ballistic Mississippi than they do.


I for one fear an intercontinental ballistic Mississippi
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KillCommunism
01/31/18 12:29:04 AM
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If our enemies, or potential enemies are making more, then we have to make more.
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TheVipaGTS
01/31/18 12:30:50 AM
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KillCommunism posted...
If our enemies, or potential enemies are making more, then we have to make more.

but why? what exactly is more going to do? why waste money on that? we have plenty....Russia, NK, whoever can stockpile as much as they want...it only takes one to do some serious damage. we don't need 100 of them. they aren't going to use all of them, we aren't going to use all of them....Fuck i hope we never use one of them...why are we wasting time and money on this nonsense?
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pres_madagascar
01/31/18 12:31:21 AM
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KillCommunism posted...
If our enemies, or potential enemies are making more, then we have to make more.

Russia isn't making more...yet. Just finding new ways to deliver them.

And this mindset is what made the cold war such a clusterfuck nightmare in the first place.

You do know they're extremely difficult and costly to dismantle and dispose of when needed right? It's a really bad idea.
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pres_madagascar
01/31/18 12:31:56 AM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
KillCommunism posted...
If our enemies, or potential enemies are making more, then we have to make more.

but why? what exactly is more going to do? why waste money on that? we have plenty....Russia, NK, whoever can stockpile as much as they want...it only takes one to do some serious damage. we don't need 100 of them. they aren't going to use all of them, we aren't going to use all of them....Fuck i hope we never use one of them...why are we wasting time and money on this nonsense?

Russia and USA have thousands of them already lol.
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TheVipaGTS
01/31/18 12:33:23 AM
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pres_madagascar posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
KillCommunism posted...
If our enemies, or potential enemies are making more, then we have to make more.

but why? what exactly is more going to do? why waste money on that? we have plenty....Russia, NK, whoever can stockpile as much as they want...it only takes one to do some serious damage. we don't need 100 of them. they aren't going to use all of them, we aren't going to use all of them....Fuck i hope we never use one of them...why are we wasting time and money on this nonsense?

Russia and USA have thousands of them already lol.

exactly...and that's WAY more than even necessary. this is all bull shit chest boasting and a waste of resources. I'm tired of it.
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Axiom
01/31/18 12:36:43 AM
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Pouring more money into the military industrial complex to make pointless WMDs that America already has more than enough of. Yeah that's just what we need /s
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KillCommunism
01/31/18 12:38:08 AM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
KillCommunism posted...
If our enemies, or potential enemies are making more, then we have to make more.

but why? what exactly is more going to do? why waste money on that? we have plenty....Russia, NK, whoever can stockpile as much as they want...it only takes one to do some serious damage. we don't need 100 of them. they aren't going to use all of them, we aren't going to use all of them....Fuck i hope we never use one of them...why are we wasting time and money on this nonsense?

That's just how it is. Whining won't change. Ideally we would have no nukes, because they are so destructive. But there are nukes, and countries who's motivations are unclear to us, and who we have had problems with in the past have nukes. We can't be left in the dust by any country who might want to do us harm. That's how you stay ahead of the game and survive. We aren't the best, and most powerful country in the world for no reason. A lot of that is largely due to our military.
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Tmaster148
01/31/18 12:39:20 AM
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It would be better to improve the infrastructure holding our existing nukes rather than build more. Some of these facilities still use floppy disks.
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TheVipaGTS
01/31/18 12:39:55 AM
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KillCommunism posted...
We can't be left in the dust by any country who might want to do us harm

that's the wrong mentality...we won't be left in the dust. we have PLENTY...we have more than enough to take out every nation on the planet many times over. we are fine. we're directing our time and energy in the wrong place here.
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KillCommunism
01/31/18 12:41:24 AM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
KillCommunism posted...
We can't be left in the dust by any country who might want to do us harm

that's the wrong mentality...we won't be left in the dust. we have PLENTY...we have more than enough to take out every nation on the planet many times over. we are fine. we're directing our time and energy in the wrong place here.

No, THAT's the wrong mentality to have. You never know what could happen. It's best to stay ahead of the game in every department, that includes number of weapons, including nukes.
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TheVipaGTS
01/31/18 12:43:04 AM
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KillCommunism posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
KillCommunism posted...
We can't be left in the dust by any country who might want to do us harm

that's the wrong mentality...we won't be left in the dust. we have PLENTY...we have more than enough to take out every nation on the planet many times over. we are fine. we're directing our time and energy in the wrong place here.

No, THAT's the wrong mentality to have. You never know what could happen. It's best to stay ahead of the game in every department, that includes number of weapons, including nukes.

What could happen? how is what we have no enough to handle what could happen? how is funneling money into building pointless WMDs that will never be used the right way to go about it? Also, if we're so scared of Russia why is Trump refusing to impose sanctions on them? why is he saying we need to be friends with them? this kind of contradicts that mentality, no? this is all bull shit. its pointless. Enough of this shit.
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pres_madagascar
01/31/18 12:43:26 AM
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Tmaster148 posted...
It would be better to improve the infrastructure holding our existing nukes rather than build more. Some of these facilities still use floppy disks.

That's intentional. Less easy to hack.
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A_Good_Boy
01/31/18 12:44:53 AM
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KillCommunism posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
KillCommunism posted...
We can't be left in the dust by any country who might want to do us harm

that's the wrong mentality...we won't be left in the dust. we have PLENTY...we have more than enough to take out every nation on the planet many times over. we are fine. we're directing our time and energy in the wrong place here.

No, THAT's the wrong mentality to have. You never know what could happen. It's best to stay ahead of the game in every department, that includes number of weapons, including nukes.

But no, seriously, when is CE gonna start having a karma limit?
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008Zulu
01/31/18 12:50:27 AM
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DarkDragon400 posted...

Can we launch Florida instead?

Florida is loaded with feral monkeys infected with herpes, which counts as a biological weapon, which are prohibited by international law.
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josifrees
01/31/18 12:56:40 AM
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pres_madagascar posted...
josifrees posted...
pres_madagascar posted...
josifrees posted...
You mean never? There has never been a time in history where any country has been asking for nuclear proliferation.

Lmfao


???? Explain yourself?? Why would a country want to lose its leverage and power??

We have the most nuclear weapons of any country on earth. Even Russia. We don't need more.


You said hello again its 1953. What was special about 1953 Im missing? They didnt want nuclear proliferation in 1953
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pres_madagascar
01/31/18 1:31:43 AM
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josifrees posted...
pres_madagascar posted...
josifrees posted...
pres_madagascar posted...
josifrees posted...
You mean never? There has never been a time in history where any country has been asking for nuclear proliferation.

Lmfao


???? Explain yourself?? Why would a country want to lose its leverage and power??

We have the most nuclear weapons of any country on earth. Even Russia. We don't need more.


You said hello again its 1953. What was special about 1953 Im missing? They didnt want nuclear proliferation in 1953

Cuban missile crisis.
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josifrees
01/31/18 1:32:39 AM
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That was in the 60s and had nothing to do with a president wanting other countries to have more nukes
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obeseexplosive
01/31/18 1:44:43 AM
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pres_madagascar posted...
intercontinental ballistic Mississippi

This is why North Korea hates us
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Bat178
01/31/18 1:48:13 AM
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pres_madagascar posted...
josifrees posted...
pres_madagascar posted...
josifrees posted...
pres_madagascar posted...
josifrees posted...
You mean never? There has never been a time in history where any country has been asking for nuclear proliferation.

Lmfao


???? Explain yourself?? Why would a country want to lose its leverage and power??

We have the most nuclear weapons of any country on earth. Even Russia. We don't need more.


You said hello again its 1953. What was special about 1953 Im missing? They didnt want nuclear proliferation in 1953

Cuban missile crisis.

That was actually 1962. 'Nam was also happening in the 1960's..
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