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Cleo_II
01/30/18 8:31:35 PM
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Do you forgive them?



Say youve been married a few years. Things seem to be going great and youre happy together. You think you have a solid marriage. But you suddenly find out that your spouse has been cheating on you, only nothing physical actually happened (sexting, told someone else they loved them, etc). Theyre extremely sorry and are willing to do anything to fix things. Pretend you have no children and can divorce amicably with little financial cost.

Would you forgive them and work on the marriage? Or would you divorce? What would it take for you to stay?

I was having this discussion with coworkers today. Ultimately I think I could forgive them if they were really sorry and nothing physical actually happened. I believe people are human and mistakes happen but I would expect a crap ton of work to rebuild our marriage (which I dont think would be entirely one sided either). Lots of my coworkers were for divorce though. Once a cheater, always a cheater, etc.

What would you do?
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meestermj
01/30/18 8:35:23 PM
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Situation literally happened not along ago between my ex and her husband. I helped them patch things up. They have 6 kids though, so that definitely influenced it.
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MrToothHasYou
01/30/18 8:36:23 PM
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There was a time where Id lean toward trying to make things work. But Ive been cheated on hard in the past, and its definitely left some scars, so I dont think Id be willing to continue things once it happened.
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Cleo_II
01/30/18 8:39:48 PM
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meestermj posted...
Situation literally happened not along ago between my ex and her husband. I helped them patch things up. They have 6 kids though, so that definitely influenced it.

If they didnt have any kids, do you think they would have still worked things out?
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prince_leo
01/30/18 8:39:53 PM
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I think when I was younger i'd lean towards a straight break, but nowadays it'd depend on the situation and how I read her confession/apology
if I thought we could make it and she was genuine, I don't see why not though
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josifrees
01/30/18 8:45:31 PM
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The idea of emotional cheating sounds stupid as hell to me. Having a close friend you can confide in is cheating now?? Or is it having confidants while also having a shitty relationship with your spouse? Jesus this world is fucking ridiculous.

Or am I missing something here???
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ApherosyLove
01/30/18 8:46:10 PM
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No. I'm a super jealous person and for their sake I would just never look at them the same way again.
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Sativa_Rose
01/30/18 8:46:35 PM
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I don't know. I don't really get what you mean. They were sexting them and saying they loved them? That sounds pretty serious even if it's non-physical.
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Re-iNcarnated
01/30/18 8:46:37 PM
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It'd depend on if she confessed or I found out. And none of that sincere apology crap matters unless you enjoy getting cheated on.

Then depending, I'd break up. I'm young and won't put up with anyone's shit. But since I'm an a-hole, I'd tell her I forgive her, cheat on her, then if she finds out, break up with her or continue our 'relationship'. That'll teach her.
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meestermj
01/30/18 8:47:59 PM
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Cleo_II posted...
meestermj posted...
Situation literally happened not along ago between my ex and her husband. I helped them patch things up. They have 6 kids though, so that definitely influenced it.

If they didnt have any kids, do you think they would have still worked things out?

I highly doubt it. And if I hadn't talked to her she would have left anyhow.
He'll I wasn't even trying to help, I just wanted to sit and talk with her for fun.
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Darmik
01/30/18 8:50:40 PM
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Your wife telling another man she loves him seems like a pretty big thing to overcome. But like everything else it entirely depends on context.
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thanosibe
01/30/18 8:50:52 PM
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My wife wouldn't have to take a dick to cheat on me. However, I don't know how I'd react. And I don't know if I could forgive her.

I could live with her though, I think. We may never be husband and wife but we'd still need to be mother and father.
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Offworlder1
01/30/18 8:53:13 PM
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She can get her shit and gtfo.
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ssj3vegeta2
01/30/18 9:02:23 PM
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No way, once a cheater always a cheater

Or at the very least all trust would be lost, and there would forever be doubts/suspicions. i couldn't be with someone like dat tbh
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thronedfire2
01/30/18 9:02:55 PM
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I'd like to think I could but then I feel like I'd become one of those crazy untrusting guys
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josifrees
01/30/18 9:04:40 PM
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I feel like if emotional cheating is a thing there is no point in even having monogamous relationships because otherwise you have to be one of those people who think their spouse shouldnt interact with other people

Omgies you asked someone how their doing? How dare you cheat on me????? Omgies!!
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KainWind
01/30/18 9:05:04 PM
#18:


josifrees posted...
The idea of emotional cheating sounds stupid as hell to me. Having a close friend you can confide in is cheating now?? Or is it having confidants while also having a shitty relationship with your spouse? Jesus this world is fucking ridiculous.

Or am I missing something here???

Try reading past the topic title before posting.
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Aki_Narukami
01/30/18 9:06:23 PM
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sexting? maybe

telling someone else you love them? HAHA NOPE GET AWAY FROM ME
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Darmik
01/30/18 9:08:41 PM
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Is sexting emotionally cheating? That seems like something different. It's kinda like prodding the line to have an affair.
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Anony1125
01/30/18 9:12:12 PM
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Hard to know if you've never been in that situation, but I'm so insecure that I imagine it would really mess me up. I feel like I wouldn't ever be able to give my trust or my heart to that person again, at which point continuing the relationship seems pointless.
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Cleo_II
01/30/18 9:14:30 PM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
I don't know. I don't really get what you mean. They were sexting them and saying they loved them? That sounds pretty serious even if it's non-physical.

Its definitely serious, I never meant to imply otherwise. Id honestly be completely devastated. But I think Id be forgiving if they were ready to put in the work. Darmik posted...
Your wife telling another man she loves him seems like a pretty big thing to overcome. But like everything else it entirely depends on context.

What if it were just sexting?
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josifrees
01/30/18 9:16:01 PM
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Oh I get it now, the spouse IS sexting and told them they loved them. I thought it wasnt that far
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KILBOTz
01/30/18 9:16:43 PM
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id be willing to go to counseling and see if it could be worked out but im guessing it would end sooner or later.

the telling another man she loves him would be hard to overcome but id be willing to put in some work to try to save it.
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SophieLuvsTofu
01/30/18 9:17:38 PM
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For those who said no:

Love isn't about the ability to deal with the best of what life throws at you; its the ability to persevere when life throws its worst at you.

If you can't survive cheating, emotional or physical, I don't think its true love, sorry, my OPINION.
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Cleo_II
01/30/18 9:18:32 PM
#26:


Aki_Narukami posted...
sexting? maybe

telling someone else you love them? HAHA NOPE GET AWAY FROM ME

Yeah I have to admit Id have an easier time with the sexting. If they declared love for each other Im not sure if I could overcome that.

Darmik posted...
Is sexting emotionally cheating? That seems like something different. It's kinda like prodding the line to have an affair.


Well, they havent been physical. So I classify that as emotional. Its still cheating though.
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Darmik
01/30/18 9:20:11 PM
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If it was just sexting and she confessed before things escalated further perhaps I think that could be salvaged. That's stopping things before it got really out of hand I guess. I don't think I'd go straight to divorce at least.

But it's seriously hard to decide these things without knowing the people involved and what lead to that scenario. It's easy to say 'Oh just dump them' when you think about some random non-existent person and not a couple who has been together for like 10 years or whatever.
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ApherosyLove
01/30/18 9:20:37 PM
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SophieLuvsTofu posted...
If you can't survive cheating, emotional or physical, I don't think its true love, sorry, my OPINION.

Then I guess I can never fall in love?
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Aki_Narukami
01/30/18 9:20:58 PM
#29:


Cleo_II posted...

Yeah I have to admit Id have an easier time with the sexting. If they declared love for each other Im not sure if I could overcome that.

yeah

sexual stuff isnt as meaningful to me
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SophieLuvsTofu
01/30/18 9:22:35 PM
#30:


ApherosyLove posted...
SophieLuvsTofu posted...
If you can't survive cheating, emotional or physical, I don't think its true love, sorry, my OPINION.

Then I guess I can never fall in love?


I think you can fall in love, just saying I don't think its true unless you can overcome anything together.

Heck I fell in love with a guy in second grade, doesn't mean it was true love. Current relationship: Survived it and we feel stronger than ever.
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DifferentialEquation
01/30/18 9:22:53 PM
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It wouldn't be a matter of forgiving it or not. I'd take it as a sign (and rightly so I believe) that the relationship has no chance of working and I'd want a divorce.
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Cleo_II
01/30/18 9:22:59 PM
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SophieLuvsTofu posted...

If you can't survive cheating, emotional or physical, I don't think its true love, sorry, my OPINION.

I dont think thats a fair statement. You could easily turn it around and say if the person truly loved you, they wouldnt have cheated.

Everyone is entitled to their boundaries.
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DrizztLink
01/30/18 9:25:07 PM
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JustMyOpinion posted...
I would do anything for love...but I won't do that.

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SophieLuvsTofu
01/30/18 9:25:17 PM
#34:


Cleo_II posted...
SophieLuvsTofu posted...

If you can't survive cheating, emotional or physical, I don't think its true love, sorry, my OPINION.

I dont think thats a fair statement. You could easily turn it around and say if the person truly loved you, they wouldnt have cheated.

Everyone is entitled to their boundaries.


I mean yeah you can disagree with me, I very blatantly stated its my opinion. I get that argument to it, but I don't agree with it. Like you said in your original, very well written post, people make mistakes. Can't blame someone for being human. But, your tolerance level for mistakes depends on your affection for someone. Think about if your coworker did the same mistake your spouse did, who would you forgive sooner?
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St0rmFury
01/30/18 9:28:21 PM
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I'm kinda in that situation now. A woman is basically emotionally cheating on her husband with me >_>

No love confessions or sexts (we're living in SEA so it's rather conservative), but she has told me she misses me sometimes and still goes out with me on weekends despite her husband knowing about us and forbidding her from seeing me outside of work (yes we are colleagues too <_<).

We say good night to each other everyday and she always uses that kiss+heart heart emoji in our texts.

I don't even recall how we really started...
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Darmik
01/30/18 9:30:33 PM
#36:


St0rmFury posted...
I'm kinda in that situation now. A woman is basically emotionally cheating on her husband with me >_>

No love confessions or sexts (we're living in SEA so it's rather conservative), but she has told me she misses me sometimes and still goes out with me on weekends despite her husband knowing about us and forbidding her from seeing me outside of work (yes we are colleagues too <_<).

We say good night to each other everyday and she always uses that kiss+heart heart emoji in our texts.

I don't even recall how we really started...


You're playing a dangerous game lol
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whitelytning
01/30/18 9:31:41 PM
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Cleo_II
01/30/18 9:37:17 PM
#38:


SophieLuvsTofu posted...
Cleo_II posted...
SophieLuvsTofu posted...

If you can't survive cheating, emotional or physical, I don't think its true love, sorry, my OPINION.

I dont think thats a fair statement. You could easily turn it around and say if the person truly loved you, they wouldnt have cheated.

Everyone is entitled to their boundaries.


I mean yeah you can disagree with me, I very blatantly stated its my opinion. I get that argument to it, but I don't agree with it. Like you said in your original, very well written post, people make mistakes. Can't blame someone for being human. But, your tolerance level for mistakes depends on your affection for someone. Think about if your coworker did the same mistake your spouse did, who would you forgive sooner?


Right, I dont think you can blame someone for being human. Same goes for the person who feels they just cant trust their spouse the same way again, or love them the same, those are human feelings. Thats just my opinion though, I dont mean to be dismissive of yours or anything. We can agree to disagree.
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Cleo_II
01/30/18 9:38:13 PM
#39:


St0rmFury posted...
I'm kinda in that situation now. A woman is basically emotionally cheating on her husband with me >_>

No love confessions or sexts (we're living in SEA so it's rather conservative), but she has told me she misses me sometimes and still goes out with me on weekends despite her husband knowing about us and forbidding her from seeing me outside of work (yes we are colleagues too <_<).

We say good night to each other everyday and she always uses that kiss+heart heart emoji in our texts.

I don't even recall how we really started...

Dude... why not just find a single girl?
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7NATOR
01/30/18 9:39:55 PM
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I dont give a hoot to be honest, if she wants a man or woman on the side, i guess its good

she could even hang out with her new lover if she wanted to and have more sexual relations or something
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SophieLuvsTofu
01/30/18 9:40:57 PM
#41:


Cleo_II posted...
SophieLuvsTofu posted...
Cleo_II posted...
SophieLuvsTofu posted...

If you can't survive cheating, emotional or physical, I don't think its true love, sorry, my OPINION.

I dont think thats a fair statement. You could easily turn it around and say if the person truly loved you, they wouldnt have cheated.

Everyone is entitled to their boundaries.


I mean yeah you can disagree with me, I very blatantly stated its my opinion. I get that argument to it, but I don't agree with it. Like you said in your original, very well written post, people make mistakes. Can't blame someone for being human. But, your tolerance level for mistakes depends on your affection for someone. Think about if your coworker did the same mistake your spouse did, who would you forgive sooner?


Right, I dont think you can blame someone for being human. Same goes for the person who feels they just cant trust their spouse the same way again, or love them the same, those are human feelings. Thats just my opinion though, I dont mean to be dismissive of yours or anything. We can agree to disagree.


Fair, appreciate the alternate perspective. Best of luck; great talk.
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Re-iNcarnated
01/30/18 9:42:10 PM
#42:


SophieLuvsTofu posted...
For those who said no:

Love isn't about the ability to deal with the best of what life throws at you; its the ability to persevere when life throws its worst at you.

If you can't survive cheating, emotional or physical, I don't think its true love, sorry, my OPINION.


You sound like someone who just cheated and now you're trying to cover your tracks. Love is not something someone else can define for you.
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SophieLuvsTofu
01/30/18 9:47:59 PM
#43:


Re-iNcarnated posted...
SophieLuvsTofu posted...
For those who said no:

Love isn't about the ability to deal with the best of what life throws at you; its the ability to persevere when life throws its worst at you.

If you can't survive cheating, emotional or physical, I don't think its true love, sorry, my OPINION.


You sound like someone who just cheated and now you're trying to cover your tracks. Love is not something someone else can define for you.


I mean I'm not really concerned if that's what I sound like, although I didn't, there's a lot of people who do that and I don't hold it against them. But I do agree love is difficult to define and can have multiple meanings.
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St0rmFury
01/30/18 9:48:12 PM
#44:


Cleo_II posted...
Dude... why not just find a single girl?

I kinda swore off relationships because I'm still a manchild in my 30s. I don't think I'll make a very sensitive or attentive partner and I wouldn't want to subject any girl to a mundane & boring relationship with me.

That being said, I really don't know what she sees in me. I'm perfectly fine with staying at home at weekends with my video games but I guess I enjoy her company too so I just went with it. Just lunch & movies in a shopping mall nearby, nothing much.

Her husband is giving her the cold shoulder now and she's sad because I told her we should maybe stop seeing each other outside or work. Idk what she's thinking -_-
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emblem boy
01/30/18 9:52:32 PM
#45:


Telling someone else you love them seems pretty serious and hard to overcome.

I can see the sense in the both of you talking it out and trying to figure out what went wrong and if it can be fixed. If it can't though, at least hopefully you both learn something from the experience. Learn about what they need and want.

Also, I feel like if you're gonna forgive someone for sexting and telling someone else they love them, you might as well work in forgiving them for physically cheating as well.
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Re-iNcarnated
01/30/18 9:52:42 PM
#46:


That was my perspective on what you sounded like, since we are in the topic of perspectives. But my main point was disagreeing with your definition or even having a definition of love.

Like the saying in Fast and Furious 7 goes, you can't tell someone they love you. I don't know if this is entirely relevant, I just wanted to be able to quote that
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Darmik
01/30/18 9:54:44 PM
#47:


Re-iNcarnated posted...
That was my perspective on what you sounded like, since we are in the topic of perspectives. But my main point was disagreeing with your definition or even having a definition of love.

Like the saying in Fast and Furious 7 goes, you can't tell someone they love you. I don't know if this is entirely relevant, I just wanted to be able to quote that


IIRC she posted that her partner has both cheated on her and hit her. Probably a troll account but who knows.
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SophieLuvsTofu
01/30/18 9:57:09 PM
#48:


Re-iNcarnated posted...
That was my perspective on what you sounded like, since we are in the topic of perspectives. But my main point was disagreeing with your definition or even having a definition of love.

Like the saying in Fast and Furious 7 goes, you can't tell someone they love you. I don't know if this is entirely relevant, I just wanted to be able to quote that


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LinksLiege
01/30/18 9:58:58 PM
#49:


If they're sending overtly sexual messages and expressed love for each other, I have no reason to believe they won't try to take it further. If our relationship was established as exclusive, then they're violating that and it's over.

SophieLuvsTofu posted...
For those who said no:

Love isn't about the ability to deal with the best of what life throws at you; its the ability to persevere when life throws its worst at you.

If you can't survive cheating, emotional or physical, I don't think its true love, sorry, my OPINION.

I would've said this is really obvious bait but apparently people are falling for it, so good job.
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SophieLuvsTofu
01/30/18 9:59:21 PM
#50:


Darmik posted...
Re-iNcarnated posted...
That was my perspective on what you sounded like, since we are in the topic of perspectives. But my main point was disagreeing with your definition or even having a definition of love.

Like the saying in Fast and Furious 7 goes, you can't tell someone they love you. I don't know if this is entirely relevant, I just wanted to be able to quote that


IIRC she posted that her partner has both cheated on her and hit her. Probably a troll account but who knows.


Seems you got your facts mixed up a bit there...
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