Current Events > Diversity Isn't "Being in the Room" - Its Whites Giving Up Their Seats

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http://www.phillymag.com/news/2017/05/02/diversity-white-power-roles/

lol wtf
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idgaf about an opinion piece written by someone from philadelphia
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diversity is people from every race and culture being together. Black Panther is like 99.99% black. it's not diverse. a movie that has someone from every race is a diverse movie. like if there was a super hero movie about the UN where each national representative is imbued with powers. and then the whole UN team fights evil

In a time where intersectional revolutions are rising more than ever, to ignore the call for change is to court unrest or worse.

And there it is, buried way at the bottom: Intersectionality is going to have its way, and if you don't bow down to it expect a violent uprising.
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s0nicfan posted...

In a time where intersectional revolutions are rising more than ever, to ignore the call for change is to court unrest or worse.

And there it is, buried way at the bottom: Intersectionality is going to have its way, and if you don't bow down to it expect a violent uprising.

who woulda thought that people don't take kindly to white supremacy (or any supremacy, for that matter?)
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Zikten posted...

diversity is people from every race and culture being together. Black Panther is like 99.99% black. it's not diverse. a movie that has someone from every race is a diverse movie. like if there was a super hero movie about the UN where each national representative is imbued with powers. and then the whole UN team fights evil

when people talk about Diversity of Black Panther they don't mean the movie itself. they mostly mean Hollywood. its a diverse cast when you consider the entirety of Hollywood, making a movie that isn't full of stereotypes and caricatures like Madea or Friday. That's something that we should credit, not attack because once upon a time that wasn't a possibility without controversy and even though things are much better now there still is a "stuck in our ways" mentality so to speak, whether intentional or not...so when something like this happens people notice.
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TheVipaGTS posted...

Zikten posted...

diversity is people from every race and culture being together. Black Panther is like 99.99% black. it's not diverse. a movie that has someone from every race is a diverse movie. like if there was a super hero movie about the UN where each national representative is imbued with powers. and then the whole UN team fights evil

when people talk about Diversity of Black Panther they don't mean the movie itself. they mostly mean Hollywood. its a diverse cast when you consider the entirety of Hollywood, making a movie that isn't full of stereotypes and caricatures like Madea or Friday. That's something that we should credit, not attack because once upon a time that wasn't a possibility without controversy and even though things are much better now there still is a "stuck in our ways" mentality so to speak, whether intentional or not...so when something like this happens people notice.

call it progressive or something. black empowering. anything like that

Zikten posted...

call it progressive or something. black empowering. anything like that

yea i guess they could.
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He's not wrong. Especially so this paragraph:

hat being said, because the terms of diversity are currently set by predominantly white institutions and power structures, the priorities are often skewed. As Ive previously written, being the only black guy in the room isnt what its cracked up to be. The desperation of white institutions to appear diverse borders on parody. I cant count how many times Ive been asked to an event to help bring some diversity in the room or told how diversity is good for business. Heres the secret: Diversity, the new marketing sensation, really means We need you to be in the room, but you cant sit at the table. (A brief scroll through a recent list of Fortune 500 companies who pride themselves on having diverse workplaces, for example, also reveals that the diversity of their executive ranks isnt that impressive.)

Diversity is synonymous with anti-white. It's not even a code-word for it anymore. They come right out and say it.
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Funbazooka posted...

Diversity is synonymous with anti-white. It's not even a code-word for it anymore. They come right out and say it.

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Yeah fuck that noise. It's not a zero-sum game, and anyone who wants it to be a zero-sum game is just demonstrating that they hate successful white people.
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What exactly constitutes whites "getting their way?" Whites largely want to go to work, support their families and be left alone.
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r4X0r posted...

What exactly constitutes whites "getting their way?" White largely want to go to work, support their families and be left alone.

Apparently being successful means that. Because according to these writers being white and successful is not possible unless you have privilege and got your way by oppressing minorities.
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Questionmarktarius posted...

He's not wrong. Especially so this paragraph:

hat being said, because the terms of diversity are currently set by predominantly white institutions and power structures, the priorities are often skewed. As Ive previously written, being the only black guy in the room isnt what its cracked up to be. The desperation of white institutions to appear diverse borders on parody. I cant count how many times Ive been asked to an event to help bring some diversity in the room or told how diversity is good for business. Heres the secret: Diversity, the new marketing sensation, really means We need you to be in the room, but you cant sit at the table. (A brief scroll through a recent list of Fortune 500 companies who pride themselves on having diverse workplaces, for example, also reveals that the diversity of their executive ranks isnt that impressive.)

Yep, when you dig to the roots of it, that nails it pretty well.
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I'm getting to appreciate the honesty: yeah we want inclusion, but are only included if you are giving up lots of privilege and property all for our benefit.

Makes me feel so much less guilty about ignoring them.
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r4X0r posted...

What exactly constitutes whites "getting their way?" Whites largely want to go to work, support their families and be left alone.

Now now, working your ass off and getting successful is RACIST.
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Basically you can summarize their entire position like this: "If you are white and in a leadership position or at a table of any kind, you're oppressing minorities and you didn't earn it."
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lightwarrior78 posted...

I'm getting to appreciate the honesty: yeah we want inclusion, but are only included if you are giving up lots of privilege and property all for our benefit.

Makes me feel so much less guilty about ignoring them.

Yeah, same here.
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metralo posted...

s0nicfan posted...

In a time where intersectional revolutions are rising more than ever, to ignore the call for change is to court unrest or worse.

And there it is, buried way at the bottom: Intersectionality is going to have its way, and if you don't bow down to it expect a violent uprising.

who woulda thought that people don't take kindly to white supremacy (or any supremacy, for that matter?)

And there's the other half: "If you disagree with us, you're a white supremacist"

Man, it's like a winning bingo card of shitty ideology.
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

Basically you can summarize their entire position like this: "If you are white and in a leadership position or at a table of any kind, you're oppressing minorities and you didn't earn it."

This.
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

lightwarrior78 posted...

I'm getting to appreciate the honesty: yeah we want inclusion, but are only included if you are giving up lots of privilege and property all for our benefit.

Makes me feel so much less guilty about ignoring them.

Yeah, same here.

In the end, that's pretty much what's going to happen, largely on its own.
A boardroom full of 20 old white guys isn't suddenly "diverse" by adding a nigh-ceremonial 21st seat and sticking a woman or black guy in it.

However, kicking twelve of those old guys to the curb and adding in ten women and two black guys isn't going to accomplish much either.

Forced diversity isn't actual diversity, regardless of who's forcing it.

Questionmarktarius posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

lightwarrior78 posted...

I'm getting to appreciate the honesty: yeah we want inclusion, but are only included if you are giving up lots of privilege and property all for our benefit.

Makes me feel so much less guilty about ignoring them.

Yeah, same here.

In the end, that's pretty much what's going to happen, largely on its own.
A boardroom full of 20 old white guys isn't suddenly "diverse" by adding a nigh-ceremonial 21st seat and sticking a woman or black guy in it.

Forced diversity isn't actual diversity, regardless of who's forcing it.

Having X% of your company/board be women or black people or brown people or white-people-from-a-different-country-in-Europe or unicorn-kin isn't actual diversity either.
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When she asked the man, Can you give me a little room? she says he went off on her. B----, you ain't nothing! I've raped white b-----s like you, f---ing c---! You ain't nothing, you f---ing b----! the man yelled, according to Saia.
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/manspreading-subway-maniac-punches-woman-face-speaking-article-1.3638974
Terrible. I do not agree with this.

FLUFFYGERM posted...

Having X% of your company/board be women or black people or brown people or white-people-from-a-different-country-in-Europe or unicorn-kin isn't actual diversity either.

Yes. Quotas and tokenism are two sides of the same condescending coin.

Diversity for the sake of diversity is fucking pointless
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Instead of calling for whites to give black people their seat, he should be encouraging his fellow people of color to go to school and earn their seat.
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Sounds like another coating of lipstick on the pig that is entitlement, reparations, and white shaming.

Unless you're a pathetic liberal suffering from extreme levels of white guilt, I don't know why you wouldn't just laugh at someone like that author.
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Asherlee10 posted...

I think it was an old, wooden ship.

Civil War ear I believe

The Admiral posted...

Unless you're a pathetic liberal suffering from extreme levels of white guilt,

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lol @ the idea that intersectionality is anything but fighting perceived systemic racism with actual racism

it's just the mentality of 'straight white cis men have been the oppressor throughout history, now it's our turn'. it's not about balancing the power, it's about shifting it
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PhlogPyro posted...

lol @ the idea that intersectionality is anything but fighting perceived systemic racism with actual racism

it's just the mentality of 'straight white cis men have been the oppressor throughout history, now it's our turn'. it's not about balancing the power, it's about shifting it

Ones who have never experienced it want to have other experience it while the ones who did experience it rather get rid of the evil to have a brighter future.

Funbazooka posted...

Diversity is synonymous with anti-white. It's not even a code-word for it anymore. They come right out and say it.

It's sad that it's 2018 and people still believe that lie.
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The whole "diversity is anti white." Thing is just a projection that racists have thinking that if the minorities have equal rights they will do the same thing to us that we did to them. So they use this fear to keep them down.

This fear is very prominent in some people's belief in Muslim refugees. This think these people who are trying to escape persecution want to take over, turn America into a Muslim country and start the same type of persecution.

Fear is dangerous and when not controlled by facts and reason.
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fenderbender321 posted...

they should hire a sociopath, a loner, a guy who likes to make jokes, a serial killer, and maybe a woman.

Boardroom A-Team?

fenderbender321 posted...

Diversity should be more of a mental thing. Instead of a company hiring a black guy, a white guy, a Mexican, an Asian, and maybe a woman, they should hire a sociopath, a loner, a guy who likes to make jokes, a serial killer, and maybe a woman.

lmfao goddamn best post i've ever seen
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fenderbender321 posted...

Diversity should be more of a mental thing. Instead of a company hiring a black guy, a white guy, a Mexican, an Asian, and maybe a woman, they should hire a sociopath, a loner, a guy who likes to make jokes, a serial killer, and maybe a woman.

So the X-Men?
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

lightwarrior78 posted...

I'm getting to appreciate the honesty: yeah we want inclusion, but are only included if you are giving up lots of privilege and property all for our benefit.

Makes me feel so much less guilty about ignoring them.

Yeah, same here.

Cool. Since y'all don't give a fuck, can you ask your brethren to quit crying when we have meetings/gatherings/etc. to discuss these issues and don't invite you?
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FrisbeeDude posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

lightwarrior78 posted...

I'm getting to appreciate the honesty: yeah we want inclusion, but are only included if you are giving up lots of privilege and property all for our benefit.

Makes me feel so much less guilty about ignoring them.

Yeah, same here.

Cool. Since y'all don't give a fuck, can you ask your brethren to quit crying when we have meetings/gatherings/etc. to discuss these issues and don't invite you?

The only brothers I have are the ones that are my blood. Anyone else, regardless of skin, is my competition. (Unless they've expressed a sincere interest to cooperate on something that is mutually beneficial, in which case they're my friends and colleagues.)

Fuck off.
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This is exactly why I can't support liberals. Could you imagine if a white person wrote this about black people?
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The Admiral posted...

Unless you're a pathetic liberal suffering from extreme levels of white guilt, I don't know why you wouldn't just laugh at someone like that author.

The white version of accusing someone who agrees with any of this of being an Uncle Tom. Neat.
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"In order for power to truly be equitable in our society, the group that holds by far the most of it will have to give some up"

"These black people just want everything handed to them"

This is why we can't have nice things
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There are a shit-ton of 99.9% white movies, and we might complain about 5% of them. But the second too many black people are in a single movie, no matter what it's about, there are these groups of people that want to talk diversity.

Black Panther is the first black majority movie that is at it's core, just a movie, made for everyone. And that infuriates some people.
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FrisbeeDude posted...

"In order for power to truly be equitable in our society, the group that holds by far the most of it will have to give some up"

"These black people just want everything handed to them"

This is why we can't have nice things

You aren't asking for equality of opportunity - you want equality of outcome. Huge difference.
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wasn't there a concert or something a few months back where the singer stopped the show to tell all the whites in the front to give up their seats and move to the back, and then yelled "racists" to the ones who refused?
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I rolled my eyes when I saw the term redistribution of power. This is why the magazine hid this piece behind an opinion cognomen.
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