Current Events > iPhone X is officially a flop; Apple slashes production by half

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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/apple-scales-back-iphone-x-waymo-buys-fiat-chrysler-vans-walmart-cracks-deliveries-155551342.html

Apple (AAPL) is slashing production of its new iPhone X in a sign of weak demand for the $1,000 smartphone. According to the Wall Street Journal, Apple plans to make 20 million phones in the first quarter instead of the 40 million it initially planned. Apple will offer its first report on iPhone X sales when it reports earnings Thursday.

It only took a $1,000 price tag, but looks like we finally found the point at which Apple consumers will push back against a mediocre product.
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1,000 dollars a phone is insane. You can add 500 to that and put a down payment on a car.
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Nice, it only took Apple users a decade to realize they're being ripped off
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Thatll learn them

It's nice to see that people who swarm to new apple products actually have a limit of the abusive pricing they are willing to deal with...
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Just means the iPhone 11 will be here sooner with its $1,200 price tag and a slightly better camera
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I tried to go back to Android and it sucked so bad I went back to exchange it for an iphone 8.

How do you people type on those non responsive screens?
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People keep complaining about how the iphone costs $1000 but I honestly thought that was how much the old one cost.
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Apple was really banking more on "everyone loves our brand" than the X being a compelling consumer product, because there is really nothing to justify its premium price. Even taking other non-Apple brands out of it, the phone has only a marginally better camera than the 8s, has the annoying notch, and doesn't have TouchID like the 8/8s. Even for Apple fanatics, there is just no compelling reason to buy it at that price.
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Phones in general need to be dialed back. Imagine if gaming consoles got churned out this often.
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I tried to go back to Android and it sucked so bad I went back to exchange it for an iphone 8.

How do you people type on those non responsive screens?

Sounds like the kind of thing that applies to the manufacturer instead of the OS. In Android land, there's a difference.

Mine is Android and the touch is fine. Sometimes it'll work when I don't even touch it, if I get close enough.
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I tried a Samsung Galaxy Note 8 which was around $1,000 too and had to return it because the battery life was shit and the features weren't substantial enough to justify the price tag.

My $180 LG Stylo 2 that I bought a year and a half ago is still trucking along. <_< And when it dies, I'll be buying another $180 to $250 phone.

Caution999 posted...

I tried to go back to Android and it sucked so bad I went back to exchange it for an iphone 8.

How do you people type on those non responsive screens?

I got one of those motoX phones, not bad at all and it's responsive for me. Did it for that free promo they had last year for free projector screens. Horrible battery life with it on but so damn cool. I get my dragon Ball fix every Saturday and I always get that screen as big as it goes.
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Muffinz0rz posted...

Just means the iPhone 11 will be here sooner with its $1,200 price tag and a slightly better camera

Praying

Who the hell buys a $1000 phone?
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

I tried a Samsung Galaxy Note 8 which was around $1,000 too and had to return it because the battery life was shit and the features weren't substantial enough to justify the price tag.

My $180 LG Stylo 2 that I bought a year and a half ago is still trucking along. <_< And when it dies, I'll be buying another $180 to $250 phone.

If you're buying Samsung phones at full price you're doing it wrong. I got my Note 8 for $499 unlocked at launch.
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Coffeebeanz posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

I tried a Samsung Galaxy Note 8 which was around $1,000 too and had to return it because the battery life was shit and the features weren't substantial enough to justify the price tag.

My $180 LG Stylo 2 that I bought a year and a half ago is still trucking along. <_< And when it dies, I'll be buying another $180 to $250 phone.

If you're buying Samsung phones at full price you're doing it wrong. I got my Note 8 for $499 unlocked at launch.

How? <_< I'd probably have kept it for $499 tbqh.

Coffeebeanz posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

I tried a Samsung Galaxy Note 8 which was around $1,000 too and had to return it because the battery life was shit and the features weren't substantial enough to justify the price tag.

My $180 LG Stylo 2 that I bought a year and a half ago is still trucking along. <_< And when it dies, I'll be buying another $180 to $250 phone.

If you're buying Samsung phones at full price you're doing it wrong. I got my Note 8 for $499 unlocked at launch.

Yeah, but that was with the Note 7 trade-in thing, right?
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Skipping 9 for the massive flop of innovation to jump the gun on the X was a dumb move.

It's not the price tag guys so much as the battery throttling, the lackluster performance gains, the even more marginal camera gains, etc etc etc
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Reminder : You can buy a gaming pc for that price.
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Muffinz0rz posted...

Just means the iPhone 11 will be here sooner with its $1,200 price tag and a slightly better camera

If the X isn't selling, why would the XI sell?
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Sad_Face posted...

Muffinz0rz posted...

Just means the iPhone 11 will be here sooner with its $1,200 price tag and a slightly better camera

If the X isn't selling, why would the XI sell?

Because people will pay anything for the ability to sport the coveted logo
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This is where Apple begins to realize it really is Nintendo West.
A company grossly dependent on fanboyism cannot afford to piss off the fanboys.

FLUFFYGERM posted...

Coffeebeanz posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

I tried a Samsung Galaxy Note 8 which was around $1,000 too and had to return it because the battery life was shit and the features weren't substantial enough to justify the price tag.

My $180 LG Stylo 2 that I bought a year and a half ago is still trucking along. <_< And when it dies, I'll be buying another $180 to $250 phone.

If you're buying Samsung phones at full price you're doing it wrong. I got my Note 8 for $499 unlocked at launch.

How? <_< I'd probably have kept it for $499 tbqh.

Samsung was giving almost $500 for any phone you traded in, all the way back to the iPhone 5S.
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The Admiral posted...

Apple was really banking more on "everyone loves our brand" than the X being a compelling consumer product, because there is really nothing to justify its premium price. Even taking other non-Apple brands out of it, the phone has only a marginally better camera than the 8s, has the annoying notch, and doesn't have TouchID like the 8/8s. Even for Apple fanatics, there is just no compelling reason to buy it at that price.

i have a different theory: they priced it high to maintain sales rates of their lower-end products

traders are dumping the stock but i think we're going to see a surprise in their earnings. their profit margin is so gigantic that oversupply doesn't hit them the way that it does other device makers

i bought around 170 and will buy again if it hits 160
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I dont see any incentive for it at all. Especially not for a $1k price tag. The phone I got does everything I need and more.
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KillerKhan420 posted...

1,000 dollars a phone is insane. You can add 500 to that and put a down payment on a car.

To be fair, a phone has way more uses than a car

Muffinz0rz posted...

Sad_Face posted...

Muffinz0rz posted...

Just means the iPhone 11 will be here sooner with its $1,200 price tag and a slightly better camera

If the X isn't selling, why would the XI sell?

Because people will pay anything for the ability to sport the coveted logo

The point of this topic is that most people aren't willing to pay anything for sport the coveted logo.
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i have an iphone x

:(
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The problem is that iPhone is no longer considered an aspirational luxury product, but Apple acts like it is.
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The iPhone 8 line is the more sensible purchase.

You essentially get the same internals, Touch ID, wireless charging, camera (if you spring for the 8 Plus), battery life (8 Plus), and cheaper price.
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iPhone 8 was a good marketing plan

The x, lol
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Super Saiyan 3 Goku posted...

The iPhone 8 line is the more sensible purchase.

You essentially get the same internals, Touch ID, wireless charging, camera (if you spring for the 8 Plus), battery life (8 Plus), and cheaper price.

But then you have to highlight just how behind the times the 8 series is. Bezels the size of New York, LCD screens, etc.
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All Id really want is an iPhone SE2
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Coffeebeanz posted...

Super Saiyan 3 Goku posted...

The iPhone 8 line is the more sensible purchase.

You essentially get the same internals, Touch ID, wireless charging, camera (if you spring for the 8 Plus), battery life (8 Plus), and cheaper price.

But then you have to highlight just how behind the times the 8 series is. Bezels the size of New York, LCD screens, etc.

Is that really any better than the notch though? It's a lose-lose, IMO.

The X doesn't offer a true edge-to-edge display in the style of the Galaxy S8 line.
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The only people that care about some random shit are rich people.

Only things that are important are battery life, speed, and accessibility.

This camera shit is annoying. IF you are buying a phone for its camera maybe you should skip the yearly phone upgrade and buy a nice camera
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i hope the whole smartphone industry crashes and burns, it's one of the most exploitative consumer goods industries out there imo
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Romulox28 posted...

i hope the whole smartphone industry crashes and burns, it's one of the most expolitative consumer goods industries out there imo

It would also be nice to get some cheap smartphones
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josifrees posted...

Romulox28 posted...

i hope the whole smartphone industry crashes and burns, it's one of the most expolitative consumer goods industries out there imo

It would also be nice to get some cheap smartphones

LG does that already.
http://www.lg.com/us/budget-phones

Romulox28 posted...

i hope the whole smartphone industry crashes and burns, it's one of the most exploitative consumer goods industries out there imo

There is zero chance of this happening.
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This isn't a surprise since it's being discontinued later this year. Apple is reported to be selling some more expensive OLED models this year along with a cheaper LCD version. A reduced in price IPhone X would cut into sales of the LCD model.
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

Romulox28 posted...

i hope the whole smartphone industry crashes and burns, it's one of the most exploitative consumer goods industries out there imo

There is zero chance of this happening.

baby steps
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@Romulox28

you have literally lost your goddam mind

smart phones are becoming ubiquitous and provide cheap and easy access to all of the world's information at the tips of your fingers. they're a huge boon to global and local economies.
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There were hardly enough new features on the X to justify the extra price tag.

Sad_Face posted...

Muffinz0rz posted...

Sad_Face posted...

Muffinz0rz posted...

Just means the iPhone 11 will be here sooner with its $1,200 price tag and a slightly better camera

If the X isn't selling, why would the XI sell?

Because people will pay anything for the ability to sport the coveted logo

The point of this topic is that most people aren't willing to pay anything for sport the coveted logo.

Then why is Apple still in business
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@FLUFFYGERM posted...

@Romulox28

you have literally lost your goddam mind

smart phones are becoming ubiquitous and provide cheap and easy access to all of the world's information at the tips of your fingers. they're a huge boon to global and local economies.

here's my two cents:

I wouldn't say they are necessary, but smartphones are becoming increasingly more and more central to living a modern, connected lifestyle. manufacturers acknowledge this and as a result have created a system for their products that takes advantage of consumers as much as possible.

Smartphones are designed to be quickly disposable (batteries that quickly degrade, operating systems that slow down over time or with mandatory updates, etc).

Smartphones are also designed to not be repairable, with nearly all repairs being nearly impossible for the average consumer to perform on their own. They are pretty much designed to break (i.e. iPhone X all glass construction that cost $549 if you crack the back plate).

Smartphones are also notorious for removing features in order to create new market segments, rather than providing some kind of additional value to consumers (i.e. removing headphone jacks and SD card slots).

Finally, smartphones are extremely expensive, and manufacturers and carriers are in bed together to make sure that this is a fact that is hidden from the general public as much as possible.

Most US customers do not buy unlocked, and if you go to a carrier store they will only push high end phones. The cost of these phones are also obscure; go on the Verizon site, for example, and notice that they do not list the sale price of the phone but simply the per month cost.This is all to trick people into thinking that they are not buying a $1,000 smartphone but rather just altering their monthly bill.

For savvy people that read tech blogs and shit, this is a non-issue, but when you take, say, an older person who doesn't know/care about phones and needs a new one for whatever reason, they are essentially tricked into paying very high phone bills and locking themselves into this endless cycle of buying a phone, financing it, and trading it in at the end of their finance process to start over again.
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animoji are cool, but not four figures cool
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That is the most paranoid horse shit I've read in a long time. You can buy inexpensive phones in the $150 to $200 price range that are unbelievably awesome devices compared with even flagships from 5 years ago. The quality of the devices has gone up really fast, and you can easily find phones that have great replaceable batteries and lightweight operating systems. You can even flash your own image onto your device if you want.

Stop wasting your money on flagships and maybe you won't be so paranoid. Flagships are top of the line devices for people who don't care about the costs and just want the best of the best.

Removing headphone jacks...are you kidding? USB c is a superior standard by any measurement. Time to enter 2018, my friend. SD card slots are nice and a lot of phones still have them, but you can easily use cloud storage (which is superior to SD cards, tbqh) if your phone doesn't have an SD card.

Stop shitposting just because you're on the "buy a flagship every year" hamster wheel.
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Not surprising when you can get a phone of comparable quality while saving $500+ compared to an iphone x.
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