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fenderbender321 posted...

Okay then there's no point in having a "why do people say the n word" discussion, because nobody can back up any claim no matter what it is.

But YOU made the claim that there was scientific evidence. So you admit to just talking out your ass?
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fenderbender321 posted...

Bishop9800 posted...

fenderbender321 posted...

I don't know if there's proof. But it makes perfect sense to me. There's no proof that people say it to be racist, either.

So you're just taking out your ass. Got it.

"I'll bet he's gonna respond with 'so you're just talking out your ass'"....I said that out loud when I hit the post button.

Too predictable.

it's only predictable because it's true and everyone would've responded that way....
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dumb ass topic
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fenderbender321 posted...

Bishop9800 posted...

fenderbender321 posted...

Okay then there's no point in having a "why do people say the n word" discussion, because nobody can back up any claim no matter what it is.

But YOU made the claim that there was scientific evidence. So you admit to just talking out your ass?

I was setting myself up for a joke. Where I said "Yeah, my friend Jeremy Science said so."

But then I decided that was lame.

So you're just talking out your ass....
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fenderbender321 posted...

There's no proof that people say it to be racist, either. Where is the scientific data that supports that?

If I could sig this without the risk of getting modded I would because this is some legendary stupid right here.
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CrimsonRage posted...

Questionmarktarius posted...

TheAnthraxBunny posted...

Why do white people talk about this so much lmao

Fiftysome years of civil rights and equality, but then somehow there's words that only some people are allowed to say, for some reason.

boo hoo

you can't say a word, they can't get a job if they're named jamarcus

fair trade

This made me laugh hard
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fenderbender321 posted...

TheAnthraxBunny posted...

fenderbender321 posted...

There's no proof that people say it to be racist, either. Where is the scientific data that supports that?

If I could sig this without the risk of getting modded I would because this is some legendary stupid right here.

It's really not stupid. Don't be so simple minded.

Actually it is
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i think the last like, 30 posts collectively made me dumber
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SoundNetwork posted...

call each other the N word imo

But they do and it is racist to tell one group (based on skin color), not to say it while allowing the others to do it. So basically lesson learned, everyone should use it.
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spincr posted...

But they do and it is racist to tell one group (based on skin color), not to say it while allowing the others to do it. So basically lesson learned, everyone should use it.

Then go ahead and say it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Obgnr9pc820
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Conflict posted...

It's no different from gays calling each other the f word

It's not necessarily equivalent, but yeah. And there are very complicated feelings about this within the gay male community, and a lot of us similarly feel this word (and it's lesbian counterpart) can be reclaimed. Maybe I see it; maybe I don't. Regardless, those of us who aren't part of the affected communities need to stay in our own lanes.
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r4X0r posted...

What's important is applying the same rules to everyone. It's called... maybe you've heard this term before...

"equality?"

This is an incredibly naive view of what equality is.
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spincr posted...

But they do and it is racist to tell one group (based on skin color), not to say it while allowing the others to do it. So basically lesson learned, everyone should use it.

We've already been over this in this topic but I'll repeat it for you. It's not just because you're white. It's because it's rude for a white person to say it to a black person and everyone knows why it's rude. No one is saying that white people can't say it because whites are inferior/different/etc. That is what would need to happen for it to be considered racist.
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Vulgorn posted...

alexadorable posted...

breh don't you put me in that category. i am wounded. unless it's just white americans. then i am ok with this.

white americans

They could be one of your kids?

MagicOracle posted...

Isn't it an affectionate term among the black community, though? If that's true, it's not really promoting anything if it's used in closed circles like that.

This is accurate in and outside of the black community. This would require an understanding or a willingness to understand nuance though. Makes me wonder though if people here have no clue that -er and -a have different meanings.
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btw, for people who are upset that they "can't" say the word, understand that no one says you can't say a word, but like with anything you say to others, they are going to respond to what you say as you are responsible for your actions. Here's some relevant rules on social etiquette.

-If someone I've never met starts calling me something like brother, pal or whatever and is TRYING to be overly cordial with me, it will look weird/suspicious/questionable.
Relevance: Considering that -a is meant as a friendly term, it shouldn't be assumed that another person you're not on good terms with is fine with that in conversation. As y'all hang out and get to know each other, break the ice on the subject.

-The energy you project and/or body language is also communicated with your words.
Relevance: Not saying that others are gonna be the best at picking up on such cues, but you can only manage your side. If you say something with condescension, vitriol, anger and so forth, that can be picked up on and show the intent behind the statement. If you say the word with such a disposition, you have to accept your part of the blame if someone doesn't like what you have to say.
Anecdote: I have a book that has the -er version as the title which is a scholarly look at the word. In my senior year of high school, we had a forum-style philosophy class (ToK for those who know what IB is) with debates and each of us was required to lead a discussion at one point in the semester. I brought the book to class. I think the class demographics were 16 white people, 1 black person (me) and 3 Vietnamese people. And we had a long academic discourse over the word where, yes, the word was spoken. The teacher asked me at the start whether or not we could use the word and I said something to the effect of "yeah, don't run wild with it though/in moderation, please" Some had reservations about speaking the word at first, understandably, but I was pleasantly surprised. It was a very engaging discussion and eye-opening to a lot of my peers. Some had been wanting to have "the talk", more or less, for awhile, but since they're good people and understand what respect and manners are, just didn't want to deal with the potential fallout of broaching such a subject. It was nice seeing people's tension and discomfort disappear as we talked about it. Point is, watch your tone and don't treat the word like a toy. It's a very serious word and if use it flippantly and carelessly, you're likely gonna be scrutinized.

I'm cutting it short for now. Maybe I'll make an addendum.
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Kineth posted...

They could be one of your kids?

wait what

its long been established that im black

???
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Vulgorn posted...

Kineth posted...

They could be one of your kids?

wait what

its long been established that im black

???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZIzD0ZfTFg

I was quoting this song.
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Kineth posted...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZIzD0ZfTFg

I was quoting this song.

oh, my bad fam
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The black guy I work with told me I can use -a when talking to him but I don't cause I dunno how I feel about it.

The only time I've ever used the -a around him is when we're smoking and listening to Wu Tang or other 90s hiphop and spitting the lyrics
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ManSpread posted...

The only time I've ever used the -a around him is when we're smoking and listening to Wu Tang or other 90s hiphop and spitting the lyrics

lol, that's definitely a good time and place decision.
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ManSpread posted...

The black guy I work with told me I can use -a when talking to him but I don't cause I dunno how I feel about it.

The only time I've ever used the -a around him is when we're smoking and listening to Wu Tang or other 90s hiphop and spitting the lyrics

This guy knows what's up
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If you think it's okay for some races or sexes to use words but not others then you are racist
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Very_Unreliable posted...

Lost_All_Senses posted...

masticatingman posted...

Turbam posted...

Neither should white people
Or hispanics
Or indians

Admittedly, its kind of funny when asians say it, but they shouldn't either.

Anyone else notice that Hispanic rappers say it with next to no backlash?

Cause we have our hands clean. We are also looked down on by a large group of Caucasian people. So we have common ground to an extent

No you don't... You're very likely part caucasian and even if you aren't... You have no right to compare the occasional raised eyebrow and a couple of citizens rightfully not wanting you to enter illegally to my ancestors GENERATIONS of slavery, in fact you've been marked.

Rights are made up.

this is a weird topic.

saying any word in a derogatory manner and applying it to a group is offensive and not good. a group using a word as a term of endearment is not like using the word in a derogatory manner.

if a german guy in 1940s france told me i looked like a jew i would take that differently than a jewish guy telling me i looked like a jew. context is important
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