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Tmk posted...

Kineth posted...

That sounds like someone trolling people online, tbh. I only say that because I know a dude who does what you're saying for the exact same reason I stated.

Well that is part of the power of the word really. Unrelenting negativity and the ability to get a rise out of lots of people.

Seems pretty nonsensical to encourage its popularity. I don't recall other racial slurs having this problem, not to this degree. Wonder why. >_>

Honestly he uses it as a gambit. He's simply trying to be cordial and friendly so if people wanna use it in place of "bro", "dude" and so on, he's completely fine with it. It's generally to agitate those who are uncomfortable using it themselves and hey, it clearly worked on you. But you know, it's just a calamity of negativity with no thought behind it, right?

Regardless, why are you against free speech?
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Tmk posted...

Do you think a black person saying it comes across as intelligent? I'm talking about the connotations of a black person saying it, and how it reflects on them. Do you think those connotations are positive?

maybe most of us aren't so petty as to judge someone based on their vocabulary. plenty of intelligent people aren't articulate.
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hollow_shrine posted...

Then you two Beckys can explain to the rest of us what you think it signifies with your vast understanding of the black American experience. By all means, tell me what I'm thinking.

This is what someone says when they have no argument whatsoever...

Whether you want it to or not the n-word will never come off as intelligent regardless of who is saying it.
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Tmk posted...

'cause like, black people trying to use it in a positive way, is not "taking" anything from it, not its power or meaning or whatever. You're just popularising saying a dehumanising slur. It still has plenty of negative power.

You're acting as if people using it to hurt black people would stop if black people didn't say it. The only difference is that white people wouldn't say it to be cool.
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Bad_Mojo posted...

jimbiz posted...

It always amazes me when white people tell us what we should or shouldnt do but yet never addresses the real problem regarding social and racial issues

And it amazes me when some black people find racism in everything, even when it's nothing a lot of times (micro aggression), but then turn around and be blatantly sexist and homophobic. Who's making music talking about gunning down blacks in the street to settle beefs? Oh, right, black rappers.

omg literally what about black on black crime.
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Lotta talking out your ass there Kineth.

Everyone's free to say anything. And there are consequences to all of that. If you want to say the n-word, there are negative consequences for that, if you're white. And there are negative consequences to it, if you're black, too. Because it's a word steeped in negativity and ignorance, and some black people deciding they want to call themselves it in what is like some bizarre linguistic offshoot of stockholm syndrome just makes them look silly and ignorant and somewhat detracts from complaints from black people of being offended by the word when the number one group working to keep the word alive, is black people.
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@Bishop9800 what bullshit about my brother in law? Ive been posting about my sister married to a black man and having mix kids for years.

Im also confused on where i said it ruins my life? It dont i dont say it nor do i want to say it. And black people do say that word a lot and its rampant in the hip-hop and inner city community. And then they get pissed when a white person says it (rightfully so).

So Whatver man take it as you want. I couldn't careless
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AdviceMan posted...

You're acting as if people using it to hurt black people would stop if black people didn't say it. The only difference is that white people wouldn't say it to be cool.

There's tons of racial slurs out there. For every race. And they're largely seen as obscure or very infrequent artifacts of a past time.

Keeping this one ingrained in popular culture of the now ensures it will be used a lot more, and more upsetting uses of it will occur then if it weren't popularised.
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"Don't listen to rap music"
"Don't protest against racial injustice"
"Don't talk about racism and socialism"
"Don't kneel down during the National Anthem"
"Don't say the N word"
"Dont dress like that"
"Dont talk like that"

etc etc etc. It's white people think they gave birth to us or some shit. Telling us what to do and what not to do

I dont see yall complaining about rock musicians or country singers talking about sex. And dont say that they dont.
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jimbiz posted...

"Don't listen to rap music"
"Don't protest against racial injustice"
"Don't talk about racism and socialism"
"Don't kneel down during the National Anthem"
"Don't say the N word"
"Dont dress like that"
"Dont talk like that"

etc etc etc. It's white people think they gave birth to us or some shit. Telling us what to do and what not to do

I dont see yall complaining about rock musicians or country singers talking about sex. And dont say that they dont.

preach
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Tmk posted...

Lotta talking out your ass there Kineth.

Everyone's free to say anything. And there are consequences to all of that. If you want to say the n-word, there are negative consequences for that, if you're white. And there are negative consequences to it, if you're black, too. Because it's a word steeped in negativity and ignorance, and some black people deciding they want to call themselves it in what is like some bizarre linguistic offshoot of stockholm syndrome just makes them look silly and ignorant and somewhat detracts from complaints from black people of being offended by the word when the number one group working to keep the word alive, is black people.

So let's see.

-I wasn't aware that I needed an education on the N-word, which is not the exact same word with the -a on the end.
-The situations are different. The gaming world and the real world clearly have different rules so I'm not sure what you thought you were trying to teach me.
-How about you just get over it?
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CEmen thinks equality means assimilating to the white culture. Fuck that
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Kineth posted...

Bad_Mojo posted...

jimbiz posted...

It always amazes me when white people tell us what we should or shouldnt do but yet never addresses the real problem regarding social and racial issues

And it amazes me when some black people find racism in everything, even when it's nothing a lot of times (micro aggression), but then turn around and be blatantly sexist and homophobic. Who's making music talking about gunning down blacks in the street to settle beefs? Oh, right, black rappers.

omg literally what about black on black crime.

And you've got people saying that the crack epidemic in black neighborhoods is the fault of the white man, but please go blame people like Jay Z that made millions selling coke in New York, not to help him get out of poverty, but to become rich off the addictions and deaths of his fellow black people and turns around and makes music about it to make even more money.

And don't get me wrong, I don't give a shit what anyone says and rap is my favorite music genre, and I'm a big fan of Jay Z. I just hate it when I hear so many oversensitive people complaining about shit like watermelons or stupid stand up jokes, when I hear a lot more black people say horrible things than white people.
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r4X0r posted...

TheAnthraxBunny posted...

Why do white people talk about this so much lmao

Because they're perplexed by the notion that black people are allowed to do something because of the color of their skin and that's not considered racist, but if white people do that same thing, it is. Isn't having differing standards for different races... racist?

Racism isn't just prejudice, but prejudice based on the the belief that one's race is superior. No one said white people can't say the N word because they're racially inferior, they're barring them because it's fucking rude.
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OH and speaking of sexism. We are all gamers here. Why is nobody here talking about sexism in the gaming community?? Oh thats right, yall chose to ignore that. And yet you're bitching about rap music???
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TheAnthraxBunny posted...

Racism isn't just prejudice, but prejudice based on the the belief that one's race is superior. No one said white people can't say the N word because they're racially inferior, they're barring them because it's fucking rude.

So is homophobia and calling them horrible things, but it's still in mainstream music
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Tmk posted...

Lotta talking out your ass there Kineth.

Everyone's free to say anything. And there are consequences to all of that. If you want to say the n-word, there are negative consequences for that, if you're white. And there are negative consequences to it, if you're black, too. Because it's a word steeped in negativity and ignorance, and some black people deciding they want to call themselves it in what is like some bizarre linguistic offshoot of stockholm syndrome just makes them look silly and ignorant and somewhat detracts from complaints from black people of being offended by the word when the number one group working to keep the word alive, is black people.

Once again. You're pretending that the word would disappear if black people didn't say it. Would black people be justified in beating the shit out of white people saying it if black people didn't say it? What exactly would change? The word would still exist, white people would still use it when they want to. And black people would rely on white people to punish white people who do. But "hurr durr, the real problem is black people popularizing it among themselves".

Perhaps black people are judged for the n-word. I don't doubt it. If you use ANY word or phrase gratuitously I will probably judge you. You know what else I judge people for? For saying really, really
dumb things like half of the people on CE. And unlike verbal quirks and phrases, I'm not concerned that I'm judging a book by its cover.
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jimbiz posted...

"Don't say the N word"
"Dont dress like that"

etc etc etc. It's white people think they gave birth to us or some shit. Telling us what to do and what not to do

I dont see yall complaining about rock musicians or country singers talking about sex. And dont say that they dont.

I agree with your posts accept for these two pieces.

I have already stated my concerns with the n-word in general. But it will continue to happen so whatever...

But with the way you dress, if you are referring to people who wear their pants on their knees.... Well that is just fucking stupid. There is absolutely no good reason to do so, and that DOES make you look like the "redneck" of black people.
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Kineth posted...

So let's see.

-I wasn't aware that I needed an education on the N-word, which is not the exact same word with the -a on the end.
-The situations are different. The gaming world and the real world clearly have different rules so I'm not sure what you thought you were trying to teach me.
-How about you just get over it?

Maybe you should get over it. When someone says black people calling themselves the n-word is dumb and perpetuates the slur's longevity, you and a lot of other people always get riled up about it and jump to all these conclusions.

Why not just shrug it off and go "nyah I'ma keep saying it you're not my real dad! >:C"?

If you wish to try and instead fight, you picked a pretty lousy battle, as you've chosen the side of keeping the legacy of a racial slur alive.
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Rock and Rap have the same substance. I never understand why idiots would cry about rap music.
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jimbiz posted...

OH and speaking of sexism. We are all gamers here. Why is nobody here talking about sexism in the gaming community?? Oh thats right, yall chose to ignore that. And yet you're bitching about rap music???

I don't. I don't care about that shit. Just like black people shouldn't care about stupid fucking jokes. That's my point. Get a thicker skin. Learn what real racism is and stop being so oversensitive
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Bad_Mojo posted...

Learn what real racism is and stop being so oversensitive

please mr white person

tell us what real racism is
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AdviceMan posted...

Once again. You're pretending that the word would disappear if black people didn't say it.

No I'm not. Read more carefully.

How often do you see people get called the K-word? What about the S-word? Do you even know what words I'm referring to?

I'd imagine everyone here, has probably heard people get called the N-word, more than those. And there's a reason for that.

It's really not some radical notion to say if you popularise a word, it will be used more. You're trying to...basically use the argument people use against any kind of gun control: "If this won't completely remove the problem 100%, what's the point?!?!" as though mitigation of any magnitude is just irrelevant.
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And yes homophobia in hip hop culture is a problem. That is one thing you said that I agree with. HOWEVER, homophobia is a problem in society in general not just rap music. So why singling out rap music?
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Bad_Mojo posted...

And you've got people saying that the crack epidemic in black neighborhoods is the fault of the white man, but please go blame people like Jay Z that made millions selling coke in New York, not to help him get out of poverty, but to become rich off the addictions and deaths of his fellow black people and turns around and makes music about it to make even more money.

Who brought crack into the black community? You do know that there are documents and other forms that showed the CIA was putting that stuff into the community.
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Vulgorn posted...

Bad_Mojo posted...

Learn what real racism is and stop being so oversensitive

please mr white person

tell us what real racism is

Hating someone because of their color. Not giving someone equal rights based on their color. Real hate speech like, "get the fuck out of MY Country you fucking n-----,"

That sort of shit

What isn't racist? Offering someone chicken to be nice, making a stupid joke about how dark their skin is, using the Curb Stomp on MLK Jr Day (Monday Night Raw last night), making an assumption that they like rap music.
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Bad_Mojo posted...

Vulgorn posted...

Bad_Mojo posted...

Learn what real racism is and stop being so oversensitive

please mr white person

tell us what real racism is

Hating someone because of their color. Not giving someone equal rights based on their color. Real hate speech like, "get the fuck out of MY Country you fucking n-----,"

That sort of shit

What isn't racist? Offering someone chicken to be nice, making a stupid joke about how dark their skin is, using the Curb Stomp on MLK Jr Day (Monday Night Raw last night), making an assumption that they like rap music.

in what ways are the latter examples not racist
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Vulgorn posted...

jimbiz posted...

"Don't listen to rap music"
"Don't protest against racial injustice"
"Don't talk about racism and socialism"
"Don't kneel down during the National Anthem"
"Don't say the N word"
"Dont dress like that"
"Dont talk like that"

etc etc etc. It's white people think they gave birth to us or some shit. Telling us what to do and what not to do

I dont see yall complaining about rock musicians or country singers talking about sex. And dont say that they dont.

preach

i, as a white person, wouldn't tell anyone regardless of skin colour what to do. why should I even care? people need to stop thinking they can control the world tbh. worry about your own crap, not somebody else's
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Tmk posted...

It's not a question of what the person is thinking, but how they look.

Do you think a black person saying it comes across as intelligent? I'm talking about the connotations of a black person saying it, and how it reflects on them. Do you think those connotations are positive?

Dustin1280 posted...

This is what someone says when they have no argument whatsoever...

Whether you want it to or not the n-word will never come off as intelligent regardless of who is saying it.

So this is about more black people performing to your standards. You can't acknowledge the intelligence of someone who might use this word, context be damned.

Who the fuck asked you to flap your gums and offer your backwards-ass opinions about any of this, coming in here with 'black people shouldn't...' as though anyone has the position to address an entire race of people with this bullshit, let alone your willfully ignorant behinds? About shit that ain't got shit to do with you? Where do you get off? Why is it so hard for you to just let people be?

jimbiz posted...

"Don't listen to rap music"
"Don't protest against racial injustice"
"Don't talk about racism and socialism"
"Don't kneel down during the National Anthem"
"Don't say the N word"
"Dont dress like that"
"Pull your pants up"
"Don't eat those foods"
"Dont talk like that"

Black people twist themselves in knots to coexist with white people in this country, for their comfort. Then some people get a backbone and some of white America feels the need to get offended. Where is the self-awareness?
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alexadorable posted...

i, as a white person, wouldn't tell anyone regardless of skin colour what to do. why should I even care? people need to stop thinking they can control the world tbh. worry about your own crap, not somebody else's

there's that patented european wisdom.

we need more of you in the world.
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Tmk posted...

Maybe you should get over it. When someone says black people calling themselves the n-word is dumb and perpetuates the slur's longevity, you and a lot of other people always get riled up about it and jump to all these conclusions.

A) I'm not riled up at all.
B) It's very likely that the instances aren't related and people are getting on you about something else.
C) Maybe you should try understanding the other side's qualms with your statement if you want to make any progress.
D) I'm black. I've gotten over the existence of the n-word a long time ago. Maybe one day, you can get over it too.
E) I don't disagree that gratuitous usage of the word sounds banal.
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alexadorable posted...

i, as a white person, wouldn't tell anyone regardless of skin colour what to do. why should I even care? people need to stop thinking they can control the world tbh. worry about your own crap, not somebody else's

CHURCH!!!
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Tmk posted...

There's tons of racial slurs out there. For every race. And they're largely seen as obscure or very infrequent artifacts of a past time.

Keeping this one ingrained in popular culture of the now ensures it will be used a lot more, and more upsetting uses of it will occur then if it weren't popularised.

How many of those races have an even somewhat similar relationship that African Americans have with White people. You've probably never noticed this, but while black people may not like it, it generally doesn't bother them NEARLY as much when another minority says it.

Turns out, when you enslave a race for a over a hundred years, then oppress them for over a hundred years, your race has a unique relationship with their race that causes differences how both races treat each other. I mean, you'd have to be some type of moron to think that the racial slurs applied to other races hold the same historical impact that racial slurs towards black people in this country.
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When I saw the topic title, I thought "unless TC says using the N-word, I'm marking."
I could not agree more. Using that word just encourages racism.
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Bad_Mojo posted...

Vulgorn posted...

Bad_Mojo posted...

Learn what real racism is and stop being so oversensitive

please mr white person

tell us what real racism is

Hating someone because of their color. Not giving someone equal rights based on their color. Real hate speech like, "get the fuck out of MY Country you fucking n-----,"

That sort of shit

What isn't racist? Offering someone chicken to be nice, making a stupid joke about how dark their skin is, using the Curb Stomp on MLK Jr Day (Monday Night Raw last night), making an assumption that they like rap music.

Offering chicken to be nice =/= stupid jokes especially towards strangers. You do know about the racial stereotypes about chicken and black people right?

Depends on the context of the dark skin jokes

Oh. you're talking about my Curb Stomp on MLK topic the other day? I even said that it was a funny coincidence and nobody is making a big deal out of that except for you. Nobody and I do mean nobody is calling for Seth's head but keep pretending that we are

"Making an assumption that they like rap music." Thats funny because white people do that all the time too.
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Kineth posted...

D) I'm black. I've gotten over the existence of the n-word a long time ago. Maybe one day, you can get over it too.

says the guy that claims if a non black person says the word its justifiable to end their life
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Why isnt this locked yet lol
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@ModLogic posted...

Kineth posted...

D) I'm black. I've gotten over the existence of the n-word a long time ago. Maybe one day, you can get over it too.

says the guy that claims if a non black person says the word its justifiable to end their life

I've never said that.

What I did say is that a person who is intent on antagonizing another person with fighting words should expect to provoke someone if they're going to harass someone with such language.

Like.. that's not even a fucking nuance that you missed. Stop being a fucking victim.
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hollow_shrine posted...

Dustin1280 posted...

This is what someone says when they have no argument whatsoever...

Whether you want it to or not the n-word will never come off as intelligent regardless of who is saying it.

So this is about more black people performing to your standards. You can't acknowledge the intelligence of someone who might use this word, context be damned.

Who the fuck asked you to flap your gums and offer your backwards-ass opinions about any of this, coming in here with 'black people shouldn't...' as though anyone has the position to address an entire race of people with this bullshit, let alone your willfully ignorant behinds? About shit that ain't got shit to do with you? Where do you get off? Why is it so hard for you to just let people be?

Clearly you are the type of person who doesn't actually want to hear anything other then your agenda be spouted and will eagerly dismiss things that don't fall in line.

The way you spout your tripe makes you look silly, you should talk to gunplagirl you two would get along swimmingly...

At least the other people making actual arguments like adviceman and beantown are in this topic and it's not full of people like you who just plug your ears and go "nanananana, i can't hear you."
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Bad_Mojo posted...

jimbiz posted...

Oh. you're talking about my Curb Stomp on MLK topic the other day? I even said that it was a funny coincidence and nobody is making a big deal out of that except for you. Nobody and I do mean nobody is calling for Seth's head but keep pretending that we are

It did happen before, but it also happened last night and people got up in arms all about it again. I guess he can't do his finisher because something happened in a movie that came out 20 years ago

Show me examples. Where? My topic? Or the other dude topic?
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Tmk posted...

How often do you see people get called the K-word? What about the S-word? Do you even know what words I'm referring to?

I'd imagine everyone here, has probably heard people get called the N-word, more than those. And there's a reason for that.

It's really not some radical notion to say if you popularise a word, it will be used more. You're trying to...basically use the argument people use against any kind of gun control: "If this won't completely remove the problem 100%, what's the point?!?!" as though mitigation of any magnitude is just irrelevant.

Yes. Because I've heard people be called both of those before. I've only been called the n-word in a way that made me angry 3 times. Twice by cars rolling by me while I was walking, and once at a party where the kid got beat up by the people there.

Now what would be minimized? People using it to be cool. As annoying and ignorant as that is, I've never thought to fight someone for trying to connect with me on that level. I simply don't associate with them. Once they realize it's not getting them the level of respect and camaraderie that they were expecting, they usually stop saying it around me, and then suddenly I can be cool with them again.

The N-Word, as a verbalized weapon on a historically oppressed race isn't going anywhere. And quite frankly, if I were a white person, I hope to god that I would have the shame and sense to not blame a regrettable word being in our vocabulary and having continued use on the people it was originally used against.
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White people agreeing with OP keep derailing the argument. Remember to stay on topic guys lmao.
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Bad_Mojo posted...

jimbiz posted...

Offering chicken to be nice =/= stupid jokes especially towards strangers. You do know about the racial stereotypes about chicken and black people right?

To be nice I said. When I'm at work, I offer a lot of people food because I work in a middle school kitchen, where as it so happens to be, we serve chicken sometimes. We even have watermelon. Guess how many times I've been called a racist because I ask if they want chicken when they're standing there looking at the chicken? And by law, they have to take a fruit or veggie with their lunch, and guess how many times I got called a racist because I told them they had to go get their fruit, and sometimes it's watermelon? A lot. A fucking lot

boo hoo. I feel sorry for you :( Tell me more about your rough job. Or you can choose to ignore the complaints.
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BeantownHero posted...

I say it amongst my black friends, but not around my white ones.

I ask that white people not use it around me and literally everyone single one I asked that of was totally ok with it

Theyre okay with it because they dont want to get beat up lmao

The_Freecs posted...

Theyre okay with it because they dont want to get beat up lmao

hard pause
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Bad_Mojo posted...

Do you think it's racist? Or just oversensitive people?

do you really not see the irony of complaining about people being "oversensitive" when you yourself are being oversensitive about their comments?
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The_Freecs posted...

BeantownHero posted...

I say it amongst my black friends, but not around my white ones.

I ask that white people not use it around me and literally everyone single one I asked that of was totally ok with it

Theyre okay with it because they dont want to get beat up lmao

That is such a fucking stupid argument...

They are okay with it because it's not fucking respectful to say it, and if a white person is using it towards a black person it's almost always antagonistically...
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jimbiz posted...

Of course Seth Rollins brings back the Curb Stomp...ON MLK DAY!

Seriously...you're complaining about a joke?? So who's the senstive one complaining about a stupid joke now?

And most if not everyone in that topic are hyped about the return of Curb Stomp.

Oh and the video itself, the youtuber made the same joke that I did. Again, whats the problem?
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Dustin1280 posted...

The_Freecs posted...

BeantownHero posted...

I say it amongst my black friends, but not around my white ones.

I ask that white people not use it around me and literally everyone single one I asked that of was totally ok with it

Theyre okay with it because they dont want to get beat up lmao

That is such a fucking stupid argument...

They are okay with it because it's not fucking respectful to say it, and if a white person is using it towards a black person it's almost always antagonistically...

Nah its not a stupid argument. I guarantee you this is the only reason a non-black person who hangs out with a group of mainly black friends doesnt use it. Also just so you know Im not even white btw