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nicklebro
01/13/18 11:38:31 AM
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If you don't know who he is I suggest looking him up. He's a professor of psychology in Canada who found himself in the middle of a battle when he refused to use the non binary gender pronouns that had recently become legal compelled speech in Canada with the passing of bill C16. Just to give you a taste of what he faced I'll post a couple videos of what he's gone through

https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=24s&v=uMsi61OtkE4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-nvNAcvUPE


I don't really expect too many replies for this topic, I kinda just wanna get the word out about him because I believe he has a lot of knowledge to offer and even more wisdom. Though if anyone is familiar with him and had any comments I'd love to hear them.
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nicklebro
01/13/18 11:59:08 AM
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Not one of you has heard of him? I'd expect at least conservatives would have.... Guess I expect to much out of CE.
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markconigliaro
01/13/18 12:02:46 PM
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If you haven't seen yet, watch his appearances in the Joe Rogan podcast (3 times) and H3H3 podcast. They're all great.
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KhanJonson
01/13/18 12:03:27 PM
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He is the most boring person I have ever heard open his mouth
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Antifar
01/13/18 12:04:43 PM
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KhanJonson posted...
He is the most boring person I have ever heard open his mouth

Kermit the Frog ass voice
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nicklebro
01/13/18 12:13:25 PM
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markconigliaro posted...
If you haven't seen yet, watch his appearances in the Joe Rogan podcast (3 times) and H3H3 podcast. They're all great.

Seen em all, multiple times.

KhanJonson posted...
He is the most boring person I have ever heard open his mouth

Yeah he isn't for everyone, you really do have to be quite intelligent to care about what hes talking about. And that's not a knock on you, people of average intelligence just don't find this kinda thing interesting
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Butterfiles
01/13/18 12:13:40 PM
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yeah I'm gonna go out on a limb and say we don't
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KhanJonson
01/13/18 12:17:01 PM
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KhanJonson posted...
Yeah he isn't for everyone, you really do have to be quite intelligent to care about what hes talking about. And that's not a knock on you, people of average intelligence just don't find this kinda thing interesting

Most of what he says is not really that interesting or intelligent. How many times do we need to hear comparisons of modern SJWs to 1984 or Stalin before we get past that cliche?
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nicklebro
01/13/18 12:22:24 PM
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Butterfiles posted...
yeah I'm gonna go out on a limb and say we don't

Naw we definitely do, especially for people who have no idea who he is. Like you.

KhanJonson posted...

Most of what he says is not really that interesting or intelligent. How many times do we need to hear comparisons of modern SJWs to 1984 or Stalin before we get past that cliche?

You obviously aren't listening to what he says if you think that's most of his message. Yeah he draws the line between post modernists and Marxists but that's actually crazy interesting for people that are intelligent enough to understand it (no offense)
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SGT_Conti
01/13/18 12:22:34 PM
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To be fair you have to have a very high IQ to understand Jordan Peterson
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nicklebro
01/13/18 12:24:08 PM
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SGT_Conti posted...
To be fair you have to have a very high IQ to understand Jordan Peterson

I know, as evidenced by a couple of the posters ITT. But even the can benefit from his message if we translate it into a form average people can understand.
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Intro2Logic
01/13/18 12:27:54 PM
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Someone saying [X thing they enjoy] requires a high intelligence is generally talking more about themselves than their subject. You're like two degrees from describing yourself as a very stable genius, TC.
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KhanJonson
01/13/18 12:29:23 PM
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Intro2Logic posted...
Someone saying [X thing they enjoy] requires a high intelligence is generally talking more about themselves than their subject. You're like two degrees from describing yourself as a very stable genius, TC.

Yeah it's pretty lame trolling lol
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nicklebro
01/13/18 12:34:40 PM
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Intro2Logic posted...
Someone saying [X thing they enjoy] requires a high intelligence is generally talking more about themselves than their subject. You're like two degrees from describing yourself as a very stable genius, TC.

I wasn't the only one to say that, and if you'd actually even look into what Jordan Peterson has to say you'd know I was right, instead of just making up bullshit generalizations based on nothing other than your desire to troll.

KhanJonson posted...
Intro2Logic posted...
Someone saying [X thing they enjoy] requires a high intelligence is generally talking more about themselves than their subject. You're like two degrees from describing yourself as a very stable genius, TC.

Yeah it's pretty lame trolling lol

Lol says the guy who boiled down 150 videos to "SJWs and 1984 are the same thing!!!!!"

He could really help someone like you if you'd just drop the troll act and went into it with an open mind. Or still least open ears.
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Intro2Logic
01/13/18 12:37:47 PM
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nicklebro posted...
and if you'd actually even look into what Jordan Peterson has to say you'd know I was right,


"you'd know that you need a high intelligence to appreciate him, and that, by extension, I have one."
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iamintents
01/13/18 12:38:52 PM
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he's phenomenally intelligent.
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FLUFFYGERM
01/13/18 12:40:39 PM
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Jordan Peterson is a beast
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Vicious_Dios
01/13/18 12:40:51 PM
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Jordan Peterson is great, and yeah, I saw that video a long time ago. It also impresses me with how long he can maintain his patience and composure to those 'lovely' people.
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TheoryzC
01/13/18 12:42:31 PM
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Sort yourself out! Clean your room!
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iamintents
01/13/18 12:44:13 PM
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Vicious_Dios posted...
Jordan Peterson is great, and yeah, I saw that video a long time ago. It also impresses me with how long he can maintain his patience and composure to those 'lovely' people.

i couldnt do it. i would just lay into them, regardless of my job as professor. they really deserved no respect.

just shows his quality
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KhanJonson
01/13/18 12:45:27 PM
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Will you stop pretending the dude is Aristotle?

No one would have any idea who he was if it wasn't for his small role in the transgender controversy, and soon enough, if it hasn't happened already, no one will remember even that.
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Jeff_Garcia7
01/13/18 12:46:57 PM
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I've enjoyed his appearance on all of those podcasts and agree with most of what he says there. That being said, he's kind of a moron about everything else.

https://youtu.be/w8ltRKj2pjA?t=4m29s
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QueenCarly
01/13/18 12:48:00 PM
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We actually don't need more topics about known transphobes.
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Kaname_Madoka
01/13/18 12:48:15 PM
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The dude is an old meme
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iamintents
01/13/18 12:49:33 PM
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KhanJonson posted...
Will you stop pretending the dude is Aristotle?

No one would have any idea who he was if it wasn't for his small role in the transgender controversy, and soon enough, if it hasn't happened already, no one will remember even that.

wtf are you upset about? no one is calling him that. why do shitposters do this?
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FLUFFYGERM
01/13/18 12:50:06 PM
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basically if youre a far left nutcase you despise Jordan Peterson

if you are a balanced and sane adult you respect him
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BlueBoy675
01/13/18 12:51:10 PM
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I first heard about him after the whole Lindsey Shepard debacle, which I'm sure you've heard of TC. The dude's pretty cool
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not_shawn_z
01/13/18 12:51:41 PM
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He's great, a lot of this board would lose their minds over what he says, call him a racist, a white supremacist, a dragon, etc
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Vicious_Dios
01/13/18 12:52:26 PM
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KhanJonson posted...
Will you stop pretending the dude is Aristotle?

No one would have any idea who he was if it wasn't for his small role in the transgender controversy, and soon enough, if it hasn't happened already, no one will remember even that.


Please point out in this topic where your claims are even remotely true.
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Intro2Logic
01/13/18 12:52:57 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
if you are a balanced and sane adult you respect him

Another example: what you're really saying here is "I am balanced and sane," which I think you'd believe regardless of your opinions on Peterson.
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KhanJonson
01/13/18 12:53:10 PM
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iamintents posted...
KhanJonson posted...
Will you stop pretending the dude is Aristotle?

No one would have any idea who he was if it wasn't for his small role in the transgender controversy, and soon enough, if it hasn't happened already, no one will remember even that.

wtf are you upset about? no one is calling him that. why do shitposters do this?

Right, I'm the shitposter, and not the TC that declares that people of average intelligence can't understand Peterson lmao
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Intro2Logic
01/13/18 12:56:46 PM
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What does Professor Genius mean by this? I don't have the required IQ to understand
https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/950736306694336512

Maybe I'm just some yokel, but this looks like he's questioning Jerry Sandusky's guilt (and rebutted heavily in the replies)
https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/950398806054481921
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Jeff_Garcia7
01/13/18 12:59:24 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
basically if youre a far left nutcase you despise Jordan Peterson

if you are a balanced and sane adult you respect him

He's a strict christian fundamentalist that wants to ban porn, dude.
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Tom_Green_II
01/13/18 1:12:34 PM
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I haven't heard everything he's said, but he seems pretty level headed. Reminds me of being a Sam Harris type
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On_The_Edge
01/13/18 1:14:24 PM
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Jeff_Garcia7 posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
basically if youre a far left nutcase you despise Jordan Peterson

if you are a balanced and sane adult you respect him

He's a strict christian fundamentalist that wants to ban porn, dude.

lmao what on earth?
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FLUFFYGERM
01/13/18 1:14:34 PM
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Jeff_Garcia7 posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
basically if youre a far left nutcase you despise Jordan Peterson

if you are a balanced and sane adult you respect him

He's a strict christian fundamentalist that wants to ban porn, dude.


lmao wtf? he is nowhere near a strict christian fundamentalist

and if he wants to ban porn it is because of the health consequences of porn addiction.

ive not seen evidence that he is a strict fundie (or even a vocal christian) or that he wants to legislate a porn ban tho
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QueenCarly
01/13/18 1:15:36 PM
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Tom_Green_II posted...
I haven't heard everything he's said, but he seems pretty level headed. Reminds me of being a Sam Harris type


Sam Harris is a paranoid Islamophobe - about as far from level headed as one can get
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FLUFFYGERM
01/13/18 1:17:36 PM
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Tom_Green_II posted...
I haven't heard everything he's said, but he seems pretty level headed. Reminds me of being a Sam Harris type


i vaguely recall there being a great podcast with sam harris and jordan peterson
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Tom_Green_II
01/13/18 1:25:33 PM
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QueenCarly posted...
Tom_Green_II posted...
I haven't heard everything he's said, but he seems pretty level headed. Reminds me of being a Sam Harris type


Sam Harris is a paranoid Islamophobe - about as far from level headed as one can get


Blatantly false. Just because he is critical of Islam doesn't mean he's Islamophobic. One of his closest colleagues is a Muslim ffs.

FLUFFYGERM posted...


i vaguely recall there being a great podcast with sam harris and jordan peterson


I think Peterson was on Harris' podcast twice. I haven't heard them, but it sounds like the first one didn't go so well.
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nicklebro
01/13/18 1:32:07 PM
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Nice, now this is the kinda topic I was hoping to get. The more ignorant posters definitely making themselves known early and often.
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Jeff_Garcia7
01/13/18 1:40:27 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
Jeff_Garcia7 posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
basically if youre a far left nutcase you despise Jordan Peterson

if you are a balanced and sane adult you respect him

He's a strict christian fundamentalist that wants to ban porn, dude.


lmao wtf? he is nowhere near a strict christian fundamentalist

and if he wants to ban porn it is because of the health consequences of porn addiction.

ive not seen evidence that he is a strict fundie (or even a vocal christian) or that he wants to legislate a porn ban tho

Not my problem you're such a fan of his, but haven't watched any of his content about religion (which there is a lot of) He often debates atheists from his christian perspective and has a lot of fundie tangents in his lectures. He is of the Steve Harvey school of "you can't have morals without being a christian." Just a quick google search will give you about 50 hours worth of the crap.

On the surface/mainstream outlets, he likes to give you word salad about his religious beliefs because he knows he'd alienate a large audience with them. Watch his lectures/debates.
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nicklebro
01/13/18 1:43:52 PM
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Jeff_Garcia7 posted...

Not my problem you're such a fan of his, but haven't watched any of his content about religion (which there is a lot of) He often debates atheists from his christian perspective and has a lot of fundie tangents in his lectures. He is of the Steve Harvey school of "you can't have morals without being a christian." Just a quick google search will give you about 50 hours worth of the crap.

On the surface, he likes to give you word salad about his religious beliefs because he knows he'd alienate a large audience with them. Watch his lectures/debates.

That's not true at all. His view on religion is that religion is the culmination of human knowledge on how to act morally. Which is true. And I'm an atheist. Regardless, even if you disagreed with it, so what?
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FLUFFYGERM
01/13/18 1:45:39 PM
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Jeff_Garcia7 posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Jeff_Garcia7 posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
basically if youre a far left nutcase you despise Jordan Peterson

if you are a balanced and sane adult you respect him

He's a strict christian fundamentalist that wants to ban porn, dude.


lmao wtf? he is nowhere near a strict christian fundamentalist

and if he wants to ban porn it is because of the health consequences of porn addiction.

ive not seen evidence that he is a strict fundie (or even a vocal christian) or that he wants to legislate a porn ban tho

Not my problem you're such a fan of his, but haven't watched any of his content about religion (which there is a lot of) He often debates atheists from his christian perspective and has a lot of fundie tangents in his lectures. He is of the Steve Harvey school of "you can't have morals without being a christian." Just a quick google search will give you about 50 hours worth of the crap.

On the surface/mainstream outlets, he likes to give you word salad about his religious beliefs because he knows he'd alienate a large audience with them. Watch his lectures/debates.


his interpretation of christianity is extremely nuanced and informed. he is in no way a strict fundie. you are delusional.
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Jeff_Garcia7
01/13/18 1:45:46 PM
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Yeah that's his mainstream word salad. Watch his lectures. Or don't. He's a fun listen if you can ignore that he believes that kind of stuff.
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nicklebro
01/13/18 1:48:48 PM
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Jeff_Garcia7 posted...
Yeah that's his mainstream word salad. Watch his lectures. Or don't. He's a fun listen if you can ignore that he believes that kind of stuff.

I've watched quite a bit of his Maps of Meaning lectures.

FLUFFYGERM posted...
his interpretation of christianity is extremely nuanced and informed. he is in no way a strict fundie. you are delusional.

He's just a hater, no getting through to that one.
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FLUFFYGERM
01/13/18 1:50:01 PM
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ive watched a ton of his lectures
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Funkydog
01/13/18 1:54:26 PM
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Was he the one whose issue was making it a legal requirement, and not people wanting to be called that?

Too lazy to check the videos >.>
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TheMikh
01/13/18 1:59:24 PM
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I enjoy listening to his lectures from time to time.
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nicklebro
01/13/18 1:59:28 PM
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Funkydog posted...
Was he the one whose issue was making it a legal requirement, and not people wanting to be called that?

Too lazy to check the videos >.>

Yes, he was opposed to Bill C 16 which made it compelled speech. He fully supports trans people as a principle.
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TheMikh
01/13/18 2:08:39 PM
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Tom_Green_II posted...
QueenCarly posted...
Tom_Green_II posted...
I haven't heard everything he's said, but he seems pretty level headed. Reminds me of being a Sam Harris type


Sam Harris is a paranoid Islamophobe - about as far from level headed as one can get


Blatantly false. Just because he is critical of Islam doesn't mean he's Islamophobic. One of his closest colleagues is a Muslim ffs.


He's a neocon for sure.
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