Current Events > You know, the Punisher had a point in his debate with Daredevil

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The heroes let the enemy live so they can escape and do the same thing they were doing before, Frank puts them down for good so they can't ever cause harm again.

For reference

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWh6A6ZIpfo
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A big reason comic heroes do this is because the writers want to be able to bring the villain back. Comics at written for years, decades. If all the villains were killed off each time and the writers had to constantly invent new ones it would be very high pressure and I doubt it would work.

People always ask why Batman doesn't kill the Joker. Joker actually did die in his first appearance, but he was so popular with fans that they retconned it and brought him back.
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thats why Punisher and Deadpool are so popular. They're not afraid to actually put a bullet in someone that deserves it. Maybe they should just invent new villains instead of reusing the same what...5 or 6 batman villains?

Mass murdering psychos like Joker, Two-Face, Penguin, etc.. should be DEAD. All they do is just escape prison like they always do in an eternal game of cat and mouse. How incompetent is the city that they just keep letting it happen?
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something something then they become the same as the villains something something morals etc
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Doesn't Punisher go for really bad people only? Like would he kill someone who stole just some shit from a store, or something similarly small?
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thats always a dumb comic book trope. Is anyone really going to fault someone for killing a mass murderer? Hell, police murder people for way less. I guess it's just so they can keep that PG-13 rating or whatever
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Akagami_Shanks posted...

thats why Punisher and Deadpool are so popular. They're not afraid to actually put a bullet in someone that deserves it. Maybe they should just invent new villains instead of reusing the same what...5 or 6 batman villains?

Mass murdering psychos like Joker, Two-Face, Penguin, etc.. should be DEAD. All they do is just escape prison like they always do in an eternal game of cat and mouse. How incompetent is the city that they just keep letting it happen?

The Punsiher is popular because he's a badass. Deadpool is popular because he's a meme factory
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hmmm could be like a game theory kind of thing

for example, kingpin has a sense of honor
he doesn't do horrible things without a reason
but let's say he dies
someone else might take his place
and that someone might be even worse than the kingpin
and then the hero might have led to some more deaths than before
unwittingly, but that's the way it goes

maybe it's the same for others

i doubt it but i'm having fun with this
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If a real life vigilante was running around killing drug dealers without due process I would think, at least hope, that people would have a problem with it. Even mass murderers.

The issue is the means to which they incarcerate them. Arkham and regular prisons are dumb fucking places to send super powered psychopaths. Put them in the Phantom Zone.
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Sami1000 posted...

Doesn't Punisher go for really bad people only? Like would he kill someone who stole just some shit from a store, or something similarly small?

No. I think the most minor reason he killed someone, in the TV shows at least, was because some guy tried to sell him a pedo porn magazine.
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Smashingpmkns posted...

If a real life vigilante was running around killing drug dealers without due process I would think, at least hope, that people would have a problem with it. Even mass murderers.

The issue is the means to which they incarcerate them. Arkham and regular prisons are dumb fucking places to send super powered psychopaths. Put them in the Phantom Zone.

Half of society would support him and the other half would want him behind bars or dead
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Punisher believes murder is the go to solution for everything though. He murders people who surrender and are zero threat along with people who seek atonement.

No, If a real life vigilante was killing rapists, murderers, child molesters, sex traffickers, he'd be supported by pretty much everyone but the police. And that would be a necessary sacrifice. Someone has to put fear in the streets, to make that criminal think twice about their actions.

They touched on it in a fan favorite scene in Arkham Origins as well
https://youtu.be/5meg74IhGAI?t=135
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Tell that to Arrowverse Oliver Queen
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DonaldClinton posted...

Smashingpmkns posted...

If a real life vigilante was running around killing drug dealers without due process I would think, at least hope, that people would have a problem with it. Even mass murderers.

The issue is the means to which they incarcerate them. Arkham and regular prisons are dumb fucking places to send super powered psychopaths. Put them in the Phantom Zone.

Half of society would support him and the other half would want him behind bars or dead

Chaos begets chaos. A vigilante doing their own thing and deciding criminals fates based off of their own sense of judgement will only cause more violence in the long run. Theres an argument in that these villains exist because of the heroes just as the heroes exist because of the villains.
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