Current Events > Why's there so much fighting over religion the middle east?

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Can you imagine if they spent this energy on something productive instead of getting into fights with each other?
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Israel isn't really that religious anymore. It's mostly just the Islamic countries that are fighting due to religion.
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

Israel isn't really that religious anymore. It's mostly just the Islamic countries that are fighting due to religion.

Israel is like the modern day Ottoman Empire
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"Religion of peace"

That's why.
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can you imagine if the US and Britain didn't impose their will on the middle east?
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Islam has a long history of mujahideen fighting against the infidels to establish a caliphate that practices the religion in the way Muhammad had decreed.

Any time you had foreign invaders coming into heavily Islamic areas, you would have local mujahideen resist them.
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averagejoel posted...

can you imagine if the US and Britain didn't impose their will on the middle east?

It was already in a sorry state even before the US and Britain were super powers
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

averagejoel posted...

can you imagine if the US and Britain didn't impose their will on the middle east?

It was already in a sorry state even before the US and Britain were super powers

It's been under the thumb of empires for a long ass time. Before Britain, there was the Ottoman Empire. Like the movie "Lawrence of Arabia", that's about the British teaming up with an Arab revolt against the Ottoman Empire in WW1, a revolt led by people who wanted to create a strict Islamic caliphate ruled out of the Arabian Peninsula essentially. Not many people know much history these days though, particularly about stuff that happened pre 9/11 in the Middle East.
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Sativa_Rose posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

averagejoel posted...

can you imagine if the US and Britain didn't impose their will on the middle east?

It was already in a sorry state even before the US and Britain were super powers

It's been under the thumb of empires for a long ass time. Before Britain, there was the Ottoman Empire. Like the movie "Lawrence of Arabia", that's about the British teaming up with an Arab revolt against the Ottoman Empire in WW1, a revolt led by people who wanted to create a strict Islamic caliphate ruled out of the Arabian Peninsula essentially. Not many people know much history these days though, particularly about stuff that happened pre 9/11 in the Middle East.

Simply put, if it wasn't for Islam the middle east would've flourished like Europe and China.
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

Sativa_Rose posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

averagejoel posted...

can you imagine if the US and Britain didn't impose their will on the middle east?

It was already in a sorry state even before the US and Britain were super powers

It's been under the thumb of empires for a long ass time. Before Britain, there was the Ottoman Empire. Like the movie "Lawrence of Arabia", that's about the British teaming up with an Arab revolt against the Ottoman Empire in WW1, a revolt led by people who wanted to create a strict Islamic caliphate ruled out of the Arabian Peninsula essentially. Not many people know much history these days though, particularly about stuff that happened pre 9/11 in the Middle East.

Simply put, if it wasn't for Islam the middle east would've flourished like Europe and China.

No not really, even before islam they wernt that great
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There was a time when the Middle East was at the forefront of human civilization, multiple eras actually. Some of the first civilizations, like the Babylonians, were based in Mesopotamia. Then in the the earlier parts of the Middle Ages I think that the Islamic world was at the forefront of science, but that ended up going away. I'm not really sure what the main cause for that was, I know the Mongols destroyed a lot of stuff, but I don't know that much history from the Middle Ages.
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Sativa_Rose posted...

There was a time when the Middle East was at the forefront of human civilization, multiple eras actually. Some of the first civilizations, like the Babylonians, were based in Mesopotamia. Then in the the earlier parts of the Middle Ages I think that the Islamic world was at the forefront of science, but that ended up going away. I'm not really sure what the main cause for that was, I know the Mongols destroyed a lot of stuff, but I don't know that much history from the Middle Ages.

There is truth in this post.

Sativa_Rose posted...

There was a time when the Middle East was at the forefront of human civilization, multiple eras actually. Some of the first civilizations, like the Babylonians, were based in Mesopotamia. Then in the the earlier parts of the Middle Ages I think that the Islamic world was at the forefront of science, but that ended up going away. I'm not really sure what the main cause for that was, I know the Mongols destroyed a lot of stuff, but I don't know that much history from the Middle Ages.

They were at the forefront in science and math for a while mostly because they didnt have any problems in utilizing the pagan Greek texts that were much more underground in Europe. When the Renaissance came along that all changed pretty immediately. Not surprisingly the Ottoman Empire simultaneously started an immediate decline at the same time. Up until then the Ottomans had been very close to breaking thru Vienna.

Cant explain why the Middle East never got back into it. They had already stopped innovating by the European Renaissance era. But while Europe overall started getting much less religious (especially by the 1700s), you always had firm believers in the Middle East.
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Fetish.