Current Events > What's so bad dating a trans woman anyways?

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Vultis_Zales
11/18/17 9:39:45 AM
#51:


another thing about me personally is that i would not mind adopting children in fact if i ever settle down and get married i'd want to adopt my family has a few genetic diseases and i would not want my children to have to deal with them. but trying to convince some women that adoption is better can be difficult as the best of times
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HippopotamusRex
11/18/17 9:41:16 AM
#52:


COVxy posted...
The sex organs are pretty similar as they originate from the same tissue. If you wanna call a post-op vagina just an inverted penis, might as well call a real one an inverted penis. Both are simplifications in the same way.


This right here is concerning. I wasn't gonna say anything but I just won't let the nature of reality be mangled like this. Just pointing out where the re-definition of language is and not ceding any ground. It's gonna be hard no and I just wanted to point out how absurdly ridiculous this answer was before moving on.

What you've done is taken two different things, zoomed in on a similar component (originate from a tissue that is similar) and used it to argue the whole things are the same thing. This logic is so ass backwards I could use it to argue that red is blue. Both have something similar in common. They are both colors. They originate from light reflecting off an object at a wavelength and reaching our eyes. Therefore we could consider red the same thing as blue.

That's a circus of newspeak I'm not willing to buy an admission ticket to.
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Hicks233
11/18/17 10:19:22 AM
#53:


No matter what is done surgically, they will still be a male. If you are not attracted to your same sex then it will be a deal breaker.
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shnangyboos
11/18/17 10:21:51 AM
#54:


And there's a difference in how I guess you could kind of think about a vagina as an inverted penis, like I see what you're trying to do, and an actual, developed inverted penis.
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Funkdamental
11/18/17 10:22:57 AM
#55:


Who you choose to date ain't none of my business.
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Makeveli_lives
11/18/17 10:55:58 AM
#56:


Kineth posted...
Vultis_Zales posted...
@Sayoria

in my honest opnion the only issue is how well they can pass as a women. i hate to sound so shallow as to say only looks matter. but as a guy, and ONLY when it comes to trans women for me looks are a big part of how well i would be able to date them. i mean yes there personally is also important but i just can not see myself dating a trans women if she looks like a man in a dress.


I agree with this.

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Lil_Bit83
11/18/17 10:59:00 AM
#57:


Its just not some people's thing. Just like how some people are heterosexual, homosexual, or bi-sexual.
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Sayoria
11/18/17 11:01:41 AM
#58:


Makeveli_lives posted...
Kineth posted...
Vultis_Zales posted...
@Sayoria

in my honest opnion the only issue is how well they can pass as a women. i hate to sound so shallow as to say only looks matter. but as a guy, and ONLY when it comes to trans women for me looks are a big part of how well i would be able to date them. i mean yes there personally is also important but i just can not see myself dating a trans women if she looks like a man in a dress.


I agree with this.


See, I understand all of this. It's logical. (It's why I am seeking FFS down the line too)

Sucks for those who have nothing going for them. I think once I am done, I'll be all set. Working on voice therapy, again, FFS soon. The bottom and top will be done. Got braces on to make a straight smile. I already am small (5'5"), I have been told my shoulders aren't bad at all. Somewhat not bad on other areas either. I already assimilated the female clothing styles, so I'm getting there!
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_Schwarzlicht_
11/18/17 11:03:14 AM
#60:


omega cookie posted...
If you can't have kids, any relationship with you would be a waste of time.

When you date a person, you specifically intend to get them pregnant at some point?
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Lil_Bit83
11/18/17 11:04:45 AM
#61:


_Schwarzlicht_ posted...
omega cookie posted...
If you can't have kids, any relationship with you would be a waste of time.

When you date a person, you specifically intend to get them pregnant at some point?


Not every couple wants kids.
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Drpooplol
11/18/17 11:08:40 AM
#62:


Lmao tc is the trans version of a "nice guy"

"Oh what's wrong with me? Here are some totally legitimate reasons to date me so you're an asshole if you don't want to"

Just accept the fact that people have their preferences for physical and emotional backgrounds, and trans people dont fit in a lot of people's criteria.
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voldothegr8
11/18/17 11:15:19 AM
#63:


I don't like putting my dick in buttholes no matter the gender, and I certainly don't like putting it in flesh wounds. I also hate fake tits.
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Grindcorp9000
11/18/17 11:26:56 AM
#64:


Biology lesson. All fetuses begin as female while in the womb. When a fetus has XY they begin the process of developing male genitalia. This is why males have nipples. It's hold overs from when we were females in the fetus.
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darkjedilink
11/18/17 11:28:36 AM
#65:


Is TC really asking why straight men won't have sex with someone who is physically a man?
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josifrees
11/18/17 11:41:08 AM
#66:


Weird how no one has mentioned social stigmas. Dating a Trans youd have to deal with all the negative posts in here but directed toward you and your partner. Also having to explain it to your family and friends etc.

Me personally, I wanted to be able to have children and Im not really a big fan of body modification
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SK8T3R215
11/18/17 11:41:43 AM
#67:


If you can't handle me at my ugly gay boy you don't deserve me at my average chick with no ass and a penis
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Sayoria
11/18/17 11:48:29 AM
#68:


Drpooplol posted...
Lmao tc is the trans version of a "nice guy"

"Oh what's wrong with me? Here are some totally legitimate reasons to date me so you're an asshole if you don't want to"

Just accept the fact that people have their preferences for physical and emotional backgrounds, and trans people dont fit in a lot of people's criteria.


Huh? I don't actively look for romance. I'm too caught up in furthering my life and working towards a career right now.

Call it as you like, but I've had many men and women IRL confess of interest to me. My half-Korean friend confessed. I had this Asian girl back in my grade school years who did. I went out with a guy to a fair to which he himself pushed for this outting to be a date. (Seriously told him I didn't want a date and we were to be hanging out on friendly terms. He walked about kissing me under a mistletoe and everything when Christmas were to come around. Lost touch after that night because I didn't go the way he wanted) ... there was another situation when I went into Boston to get the autographs from the Tone It Up girls. I hung out with him after trying to be friendly with him online (platonic) and it was so.... not genuine. I could ask him if he liked something, he'd say no, but when I said I did like it, he would take it back. It was annoying. "Oh, do you like .... sushi?" "Oh, no, it's gross!" "Oh, I like it. I think it's an acquired taste, but it's good." "Oh, well actually, I do. I just don't eat it much but I've had a lot of great sushi!" .... Stuff like that. Just ughhh.

Seriously, the opportunities have arisen for me in many places, but I cannot commit to these things now. I'm 30 and just went back to school. I am sexually starting to open up to the idea of romance, but it will still be years before I even bother.
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omega cookie
11/18/17 11:50:18 AM
#69:


_Schwarzlicht_ posted...
omega cookie posted...
If you can't have kids, any relationship with you would be a waste of time.

When you date a person, you specifically intend to get them pregnant at some point?

I'm almost 28, and have been engaged since I was 20. If by some chance my fiance and I were to break up, I'd be looking for someone else to settle down with. That, to me, means marriage and kids at some point.

I always viewed dating as shopping for a wife, in a sense. Not that they are things to buy, but as a trial to see if I could be with them forever. As soon as it became clear I couldn't, I'd end the relationship. Not being able to have kids would be a clear sign that it wouldn't work out, so dating them would be a waste of time.

Mind you, I'm talking about relationships. I was never one for the "date a girl for a month or two, fuck a bunch, and break up" stuff. One night stands and party hookups were enough to take care of those urges, and I've long since stopped hunting for whores.
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masticatingman
11/18/17 11:52:11 AM
#70:


Only trans Ive seen so far who would realistically pass are Asian trans. And yes, I mean in person Ive seen them. But Hispanic trans can pass, just havent seen the right one yet. I mean, very close to passing, good enough to not be noticed in regular society...but with the Asians, I could see them legit fooling my family members no problem.

With Hispanic and white trans though, youll begin to see a lot more passable ones soon, since theyre starting to take hormones so early now.
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KamenRiderBlade
11/18/17 11:56:26 AM
#71:


Most people want authentic original biological natural women.

That's just the way people are wired / desire these things.

Post Operative or Not; you can't change / force people to want something that is a substitute for what they naturally want.

Lying to further your own interests won't help your cause.

The only thing is being honest about your situation and hoping the other person will accept you for who you are.

That's the best you can hope for.
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El Mexicano Texano
11/18/17 11:57:06 AM
#72:


I want natural boobs not fake boobs, fake vagina no thanks, why get the cheap imitation when you could get the real thing.
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darkjedilink
11/18/17 11:57:31 AM
#73:


SK8T3R215 posted...
If you can't handle me at my ugly gay boy you don't deserve me at my average chick with no ass and a penis

Nice
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Kaname_Madoka
11/18/17 11:57:58 AM
#74:


https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/76004987/890623744
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darkjedilink
11/18/17 12:01:34 PM
#75:


Kaname_Madoka posted...
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/76004987/890623744

Wow
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thelovefist
11/18/17 12:01:54 PM
#76:


pres_madagascar posted...
Confession: I'm a straight male. I would date a trans woman that looked feminine enough. As corny as it is, I'm 30, and I care more about love than sex these days.

I've had my fun, I'm looking for companionship now. On dating sites I say yes to trans women.

That's all well and good, but you're not a straight person.
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Kaname_Madoka
11/18/17 12:02:03 PM
#77:


I'd date a trans woman though
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Foppe
11/18/17 12:11:55 PM
#78:


If I connect with her personality, then it doesnt matter if it is a female or trans female.
Sure, a real vagina is nice, but if I manage to find that perfect personality, then it doesnt matter if she got two or three useable holes.
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El Mexicano Texano
11/18/17 12:12:58 PM
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Itennu
11/18/17 12:15:58 PM
#80:


not really. i avoid dating trans too, because i've tried it and it turns into a mixed bag of crazy real fast!

us transgirls are outta wack, we need someone to help us feel calm and normal or our anxiety causes us to burst into flames =D
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KamenRiderBlade
11/18/17 12:19:28 PM
#81:


El Mexicano Texano posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/76004987/890623744

Wow

That's fucked up

@Sayoria
Can you explain that comment that you posted about dating MtF trans person that you made?
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Sayoria
11/18/17 12:24:27 PM
#83:


KamenRiderBlade posted...
El Mexicano Texano posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/76004987/890623744

Wow

That's fucked up

@Sayoria
Can you explain that comment that you posted about dating MtF trans person that you made?


I'm attracted to guys. If I had my choice, I'd be in it for a cowboy. Trans women are nothing like that.
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s0nicfan
11/18/17 12:29:08 PM
#84:


Sayoria posted...
I'm attracted to guys. If I had my choice, I'd be in it for a cowboy. Trans women are nothing like that.


Would you date a F2M?
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Vyrulisse
11/18/17 12:29:13 PM
#85:


What's so bad dating a Woman anyways?

Say... SAYORIA... what's so bad? :P
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Sayoria
11/18/17 12:35:26 PM
#86:


s0nicfan posted...
Sayoria posted...
I'm attracted to guys. If I had my choice, I'd be in it for a cowboy. Trans women are nothing like that.


Would you date a F2M?


Like I said in that linked post, yes if we had a non-sexual relationship.
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Sayoria
11/18/17 12:37:36 PM
#87:


Vyrulisse posted...
What's so bad dating a Woman anyways?

Say... SAYORIA... what's so bad? :P


Nothing Vyvy!

I mean, I could do a non-sexual relationship with a woman. Nothing beyond that though. x: ... I still hate liking guys, but I'm too submissive not to find attraction to them. x:
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Anteaterking
11/18/17 12:37:46 PM
#88:


Sayoria posted...
- We know what pleases a man and all the places to focus on.


I'm a man and I don't know if I could say this about myself.
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s0nicfan
11/18/17 12:39:19 PM
#89:


Sayoria posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Sayoria posted...
I'm attracted to guys. If I had my choice, I'd be in it for a cowboy. Trans women are nothing like that.


Would you date a F2M?


Like I said in that linked post, yes if we had a non-sexual relationship.


It said non-sexually so I wasn't sure how to interpret that. IMO you can't have a healthy long-term relationship without a physical component, so a non-sexual relationship isn't really dating. It's more like having a really close friend.
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Tmk
11/18/17 12:41:09 PM
#90:


People in general are a lot more picky and superficial about who they're attracted to than is usually acknowledged really.

And I mean I get it. If ever there was something to be superficial about, it's physical attraction. Some people just really hate the penis. I get that too. It IS gross, though it's not like what women have going on downstairs isn't too. Really the human body is just kind of a mess down there.

But some people are so put off by a penis it's just like, even after surgery, that's not enough. I guess it's kind of like if they went to a restaurant, and had to choose a spoon for their soup, and one spoon had someone's penis resting on it for 30 minutes some time ago. The restaurant could lecture them for an hour about how intensely they washed and scrubbed it to the point no conceivable trace of anything that had touched it, would even still be there...if there's also spoons available that DIDN'T have a penis on them at any point, they'll probably just go for those.

Though I guess the other two main problems is people who want biological kids, and people who are really put off by fake stuff. I've definitely seen a lot of people basically disgusted with people who were born women after they got a lot of surgery done (though to be fair some of them do kinda end up looking like freakish aliens >_>).
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_Rinku_
11/18/17 12:41:32 PM
#91:


s0nicfan posted...
Sayoria posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Sayoria posted...
I'm attracted to guys. If I had my choice, I'd be in it for a cowboy. Trans women are nothing like that.


Would you date a F2M?


Like I said in that linked post, yes if we had a non-sexual relationship.


It said non-sexually so I wasn't sure how to interpret that. IMO you can't have a healthy long-term relationship without a physical component, so a non-sexual relationship isn't really dating. It's more like having a really close friend.

Bullshit. You may not be able to, but that hardly means everyone needs to get their rocks off to form a deep emotional connection.
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s0nicfan
11/18/17 12:43:41 PM
#92:


_Rinku_ posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Sayoria posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Sayoria posted...
I'm attracted to guys. If I had my choice, I'd be in it for a cowboy. Trans women are nothing like that.


Would you date a F2M?


Like I said in that linked post, yes if we had a non-sexual relationship.


It said non-sexually so I wasn't sure how to interpret that. IMO you can't have a healthy long-term relationship without a physical component, so a non-sexual relationship isn't really dating. It's more like having a really close friend.

Bullshit. You may not be able to, but that hardly means everyone needs to get their rocks off to form a deep emotional connection.


I mean, you can think that, but social psychology is pretty much settled on the matter. But sure, your long-distance relationship is TOTALLY the one to break the trend. It's the one truly special one that'll show everyone that the rules of attraction don't apply to you.
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Sayoria
11/18/17 12:48:08 PM
#93:


s0nicfan posted...
_Rinku_ posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Sayoria posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Sayoria posted...
I'm attracted to guys. If I had my choice, I'd be in it for a cowboy. Trans women are nothing like that.


Would you date a F2M?


Like I said in that linked post, yes if we had a non-sexual relationship.


It said non-sexually so I wasn't sure how to interpret that. IMO you can't have a healthy long-term relationship without a physical component, so a non-sexual relationship isn't really dating. It's more like having a really close friend.

Bullshit. You may not be able to, but that hardly means everyone needs to get their rocks off to form a deep emotional connection.


I mean, you can think that, but social psychology is pretty much settled on the matter. But sure, your long-distance relationship is TOTALLY the one to break the trend. It's the one truly special one that'll show everyone that the rules of attraction don't apply to you.


There's always masturbation when that time comes ya know.
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_Rinku_
11/18/17 12:48:52 PM
#94:


s0nicfan posted...
_Rinku_ posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Sayoria posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Sayoria posted...
I'm attracted to guys. If I had my choice, I'd be in it for a cowboy. Trans women are nothing like that.


Would you date a F2M?


Like I said in that linked post, yes if we had a non-sexual relationship.


It said non-sexually so I wasn't sure how to interpret that. IMO you can't have a healthy long-term relationship without a physical component, so a non-sexual relationship isn't really dating. It's more like having a really close friend.

Bullshit. You may not be able to, but that hardly means everyone needs to get their rocks off to form a deep emotional connection.


I mean, you can think that, but social psychology is pretty much settled on the matter. But sure, your long-distance relationship is TOTALLY the one to break the trend. It's the one truly special one that'll show everyone that the rules of attraction don't apply to you.

Asexual people exist, buddy. Please though, provide some sources on "social psychology settling the matter."

Nice job with that fallacy too. It's fine if you need a sexual component to your relationship. Lots of people don't though.
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s0nicfan
11/18/17 12:55:00 PM
#95:


_Rinku_ posted...
"social psychology settling the matter."


Which component do you want, the role of physical markers in driving attraction, the role of sexual components in rewiring our brain, or the role of sexuality in maintaining a lifelong partnership? Are you okay with primary resources from psychologists who have written books on the topic? How about case studies? I'd prefer to avoid going through the effort of posting resources just to have you hand-wave them away, so you'll have to be a bit more specific before I waste my time.
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_Rinku_
11/18/17 1:05:12 PM
#97:


s0nicfan posted...
_Rinku_ posted...
"social psychology settling the matter."


Which component do you want, the role of physical markers in driving attraction, the role of sexual components in rewiring our brain, or the role of sexuality in maintaining a lifelong partnership? Are you okay with primary resources from psychologists who have written books on the topic? How about case studies? I'd prefer to avoid going through the effort of posting resources just to have you hand-wave them away, so you'll have to be a bit more specific before I waste my time.

I'll settle for the role of sexuality in lifelong partnerships.

It needs to be written within the last decade and account for asexuality though. Otherwise it's outdated and useless.

Good try though, buddy. Why do asexuals bother you so much?
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Teddybearsolid
11/18/17 1:05:58 PM
#98:


THIS IS NOW A SPIDERMAN THREAD!!!

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Switch_Hitter
11/18/17 1:08:39 PM
#99:


Sayoria posted...
The Admiral posted...
The penis


And if post-operative?

The open wound that constantly tries to heal itself shut...
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_Rinku_
11/18/17 1:10:22 PM
#100:


Teddybearsolid posted...
THIS IS NOW A SPIDERMAN THREAD!!!

https://goo.gl/images/mJynZv

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fk6omPlM8bw
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Teddybearsolid
11/18/17 1:12:51 PM
#101:


_Rinku_ posted...
Teddybearsolid posted...
THIS IS NOW A SPIDERMAN THREAD!!!

https://goo.gl/images/mJynZv

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fk6omPlM8bw

Love it.
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