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Full Throttle
10/23/17 1:24:10 AM
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Do you think this should be treated as Murder?



32 y/o Kenneth Andrew White was killed after a massive rock smashed through his windshield and hit his head in Michigan!!

His fianee, Amy Cagle was devastated as she said "He was a good man and a good father". She tearfully soke about their 5 y/o son she had with him and said it was a senseless act for a rock to had take him so soon..

He was on his way home from a construction job when rocks started falling from the overpass and he was a passenger of a van that was travelling on Interstate 75.

20 rocks had already been thrown down before the 2 men made their way down the highway, hittng 4 cars that pulled over and alerted law enforcement.

His sister, Alicia said "I just don't understand what a person could be thinking to even want to do something like that. To know they're putting lives in danger by just throwing rocks over the overpass"

It was believed to have been Teenagers according to the County Sheriff's office who said a large rock struck the father of 4 in the head when it came crashing through the windshield. He was immediately knocked unconscous and was rushed to the Hurley Medical Centre where later died.

It happened at 830pm at night as photos show the gaping hole in the windshield and the massive rocks that were thrown down below..

Jim Schultz shared photos of his vehicle on facebook, along with the rock that he hit while driving. He said it ripped off his oil pan an described it as a 10 by 10 rock, smaller than a basketball.

Several teens who were connected to the incident are in custody as they said it was part of a "prank" and this is now being treated as a potential homicide.

Do you think this should be treated as Murder?

Kenneth - Deceased

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/10/20/19/45864C7200000578-0-image-a-60_1508523516865.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/10/20/19/45864C7A00000578-0-image-a-65_1508524927556.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/10/20/19/45864C7600000578-0-A_GoFundMe_account_was_set_up_for_White_s_family_to_help_with_hi-a-72_1508525320650.jpg

Amy - His Wife

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/10/21/06/4588DDCF00000578-5002972-image-a-6_1508563553752.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/10/21/06/4588DDBF00000578-5002972-image-m-10_1508563572636.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/10/21/06/4588DDD300000578-5002972-image-a-12_1508563774460.jpg

The van he was in -

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/10/20/19/45864F1A00000578-0-image-m-63_1508523526432.jpg

The rocks thrown -

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/10/21/07/4586583700000578-5002972-Schultz_said_that_the_rock_pictured_ripped_off_his_oil_pan_He_de-a-6_1508567749783.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/10/21/07/45864F0F00000578-5002972-Two_large_rocks_were_also_found_on_the_highway-a-1_1508567749197.jpg

The overpass the rocks were being thrown from -

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/10/20/22/4586FAF900000578-5002022-image-a-34_1508533547412.jpg
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glitteringfairy
10/23/17 1:26:33 AM
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Fucking teenagers.
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awesome999
10/23/17 1:28:03 AM
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Manslaughter, tried as adults
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Chaosmaster00
10/23/17 1:29:01 AM
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"Just a prank, bro!"
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HiddenRoar
10/23/17 1:59:29 AM
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Full Throttle posted...

Several teens who were connected to the incident are in custody


Fry them.
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fan357
10/23/17 2:00:26 AM
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awesome999 posted...
Manslaughter, tried as adults

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Duncanwii
10/23/17 2:01:13 AM
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Stone them. Just desserts.
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Kaiganeer
10/23/17 2:02:50 AM
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throw twenty rocks at them and call it a day
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Esrac
10/23/17 2:04:07 AM
#9:


Stone them to death.
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Mormaurd
10/23/17 2:07:21 AM
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awesome999 posted...
Manslaughter, tried as adults

This. Similar thing happened in california where teens tossed an old toilet off an overpass that killed someone.
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Gafemage
10/23/17 2:07:47 AM
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Duncanwii posted...
Stone them. Just desserts.

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legendarylemur
10/23/17 2:11:17 AM
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It sickens me. I hate pranks like this. Why do it? What's the fun in it especially when somebody could get hurt? At least I fucking thought like that when I was a kid, but I know plenty of idiots who would be capable of dumb shit like this.

I wonder how they're gonna try these kids though. Do all of them get the hit? They should.

This kinda shit makes me afraid to have kids. I wanna raise them well, but you can't control other kids
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Nightmare_Luna
10/23/17 2:20:04 AM
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I've had a rock thrown at me from an overpass, luckily it only cracked the windshield, but even that was costly to repair and if it had gone through it most likely would have killed me. Life without parole, all of them.

Alternatively,

Kaiganeer posted...
throw twenty rocks at them and call it a day

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Gamer99z
10/23/17 2:27:39 AM
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fan357 posted...
awesome999 posted...
Manslaughter, tried as adults

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Trayvon
10/23/17 6:27:59 AM
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I bet the teenagers were a bunch of thugs
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gmanthebest
10/23/17 6:34:28 AM
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Hope those idiots get a long time
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hakujo
10/23/17 7:06:46 AM
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Gamer99z posted...
fan357 posted...
awesome999 posted...
Manslaughter, tried as adults

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I4NRulez
10/23/17 7:09:39 AM
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Man, when i was kid you threw pebbles and even that was something only the really messed up kids did.

Even a kid should know thats gonna hurt someone let alone teens
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Looked gf
10/23/17 7:29:11 AM
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Esrac posted...
Stone them to death.

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TheRealDill2000
10/23/17 8:03:10 AM
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awesome999 posted...
Manslaughter, tried as adults

They're kids. They don't deserve that harsh of a punishment. We have lesser penalties for kids for a reason.
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D-Lo_BrownTown
10/23/17 8:06:00 AM
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Manslaughter for sure

This happened before and IIRC it was pretty big news so this shouldn't be an "lol they didn't know any better" thing.
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CelestialVoices
10/23/17 8:13:46 AM
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i dont know the difference between first and second but the kids should be tossed into a meat grinder or a volcano or wood chipper etc
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Ammonitida
10/23/17 8:34:35 AM
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Flashback

http://abcnews.go.com/US/york-woman-blinded-shopping-cart-dropped-teens-forgives/story?id=15959174

The New York mother of two who suffered a serious brain injury and lost the use of her left eye after two teenagers sent a shopping cart crashing down 50 feet onto her says she forgives the boys and is more concerned for the welfare of her own teenage son, who witnessed the accident.

The video also shows the bravery of a third teenager who was at the mall that day. In the video footage of the incident, 14-year old Achilles Baskin can be seen trying to stop the other two from tossing the cart over the railing, and then is seen running off to find help.
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GATTJT
10/23/17 8:40:12 AM
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TheRealDill2000 posted...
They're kids. They don't deserve that harsh of a punishment.

Why not? A man is dead because of them.
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KiwiTerraRizing
10/23/17 8:49:19 AM
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Gafemage posted...
Duncanwii posted...
Stone them. Just desserts.

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eston
10/23/17 8:49:33 AM
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What exactly did they think was going to happen?

Even if they didn't directly hit someone, a car hitting one of those rocks on the ground at 75 mph could kill people
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foreveraIone
10/23/17 8:50:16 AM
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gmanthebest posted...
Hope those idiots get a long time

life in prison
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DyingPancake
10/23/17 8:54:13 AM
#28:


TheRealDill2000 posted...
awesome999 posted...
Manslaughter, tried as adults

They're kids. They don't deserve that harsh of a punishment. We have lesser penalties for kids for a reason.


A teenager is not a "kid"

They knew exactly what they were doing and this can very easily be seen as an intent to kill

Fuck them. I hope they get the worst sentence possible.
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Trigg3rH4ppy
10/23/17 8:55:52 AM
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GATTJT posted...
TheRealDill2000 posted...
They're kids. They don't deserve that harsh of a punishment.

Why not? A man is dead because of them.

Don't argue with TheRealDill2000. His gimmick is to say criminals shouldn't be punished in situations like this one just to annoy people like you. He will calmly keep reiterating that they don't deserve to be punished while asking you for "proof" that they need punished or other such things.

There, I just saved you two hours.
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Shadowstrike007
10/23/17 8:56:57 AM
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Death penalty. We as a country need to get this shit together. Anyone found of murder should be shot.
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l Dudeboy l
10/23/17 9:00:05 AM
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Remove the teenagers hands.
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Gafemage
10/23/17 9:02:51 AM
#32:


Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
GATTJT posted...
TheRealDill2000 posted...
They're kids. They don't deserve that harsh of a punishment.

Why not? A man is dead because of them.

Don't argue with TheRealDill2000. His gimmick is to say criminals shouldn't be punished in situations like this one just to annoy people like you. He will calmly keep reiterating that they don't deserve to be punished while asking you for "proof" that they need punished or other such things.

There, I just saved you two hours.

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spincr
10/23/17 9:35:35 AM
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Well what should happen is that they too get a brick in the face, but that's not legal, so lets go with life in prison. Get rid of that trash.
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DippinSauce
10/23/17 9:38:15 AM
#34:


legendarylemur posted...
It sickens me. I hate pranks like this.

Don't trivialize it by calling it a prank.
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LightHawKnight
10/23/17 9:42:29 AM
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Looked gf posted...
Esrac posted...
Stone them to death.

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Oshawottownage
10/23/17 9:50:11 AM
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This is felony murder. Charge them with reckless endangerment for each car he hit(or perhaps each stone he dropped) as well and property damage for each car he hit too.

Lock them up for a long ass time. Throw the library at them. Honestly these kind of crimes with a stupid or callous disregard for others are often a worse look on someone than straight up murder. Most non serial murder at least has a proper motive(Life insurance money, abusive/cheating spouse, Removing a Rival or perceived threat, Mercy Killing, Robbery went wrong, Organized Crime, etc.)

This is literally hurting people for fun.
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_Near_
10/23/17 9:56:16 AM
#37:


Oshawottownage posted...
This is felony murder.


No, it isn't. Throwing rocks over an overpass isn't a felony.
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Teddytalks
10/23/17 9:59:07 AM
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_Near_ posted...
Oshawottownage posted...
This is felony murder.


No, it isn't. Throwing rocks over an overpass isn't a felony.


But killing someone is
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Oshawottownage
10/23/17 10:04:13 AM
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_Near_ posted...
Oshawottownage posted...
This is felony murder.


No, it isn't. Throwing rocks over an overpass isn't a felony.


It can be argued. Endangerment is a felony in some jurisdictions and I would say dropping large rocks down an overpass where there are fast moving cars(or at all) is definitely endangerment.
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_Near_
10/23/17 10:24:36 AM
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Teddytalks posted...
_Near_ posted...
Oshawottownage posted...
This is felony murder.


No, it isn't. Throwing rocks over an overpass isn't a felony.


But killing someone is


The felony for felony murder can't be the murder itself. Otherwise every murder would be felony murder.

Oshawottownage posted...
_Near_ posted...
Oshawottownage posted...
This is felony murder.


No, it isn't. Throwing rocks over an overpass isn't a felony.


It can be argued. Endangerment is a felony in some jurisdictions and I would say dropping large rocks down an overpass where there are fast moving cars(or at all) is definitely endangerment.


Not in Michigan. It doesn't even look like they have felony murder.
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E32005
10/23/17 10:33:28 AM
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E32005
10/23/17 10:34:08 AM
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_Near_ posted...
Oshawottownage posted...
This is felony murder.


No, it isn't. Throwing rocks over an overpass isn't a felony.

In what shit state??
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10/23/17 10:34:45 AM
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_Near_
10/23/17 10:40:49 AM
#44:


E32005 posted...
_Near_ posted...
Oshawottownage posted...
This is felony murder.


No, it isn't. Throwing rocks over an overpass isn't a felony.

In what shit state??


I mean, it CAN happen, like Oshawottownage said. But that'd mean that you can throw a rock over an overpass, not hit anyone and still be in prison for a year or more. So some states are hesitant to do that.
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Kitt
10/23/17 10:41:12 AM
#45:


Him and his wife reminds me of Joe and Silvia:

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TheRealDill2000
10/24/17 4:39:59 AM
#46:


DyingPancake posted...
TheRealDill2000 posted...
awesome999 posted...
Manslaughter, tried as adults

They're kids. They don't deserve that harsh of a punishment. We have lesser penalties for kids for a reason.


A teenager is not a "kid"

They knew exactly what they were doing and this can very easily be seen as an intent to kill

Fuck them. I hope they get the worst sentence possible.

At that age, they're still getting a feel for their boundaries. The outcome here helped them to realize they crossed a line. It was a learning experience with tragic consequences, but it shouldn't completely ruin the futures of these youths.
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Irony
10/24/17 4:41:55 AM
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Life in prison with possibility of parole in 2054
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iron jojo
10/24/17 4:42:48 AM
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awesome999 posted...
Manslaughter, tried as adults

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10/24/17 4:46:03 AM
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Insanity216
10/24/17 4:46:12 AM
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Holy shit, I came in thinking it was small rocks being thrown, not freaking boulders. This is way beyond prank, these teenagers were out to kill someone.
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