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FLUFFYGERM 10/09/17 12:29:17 PM #51:	DreadedWave posted... Asherlee10 posted... BalisticWarri0r posted... wasserpanzer posted... It's funny and kinda scary how many people in this topic have no idea WTF they're talking about. Enlighten us I think he's referring to the the people saying Islam as if it didn't already exist in the country. nobody said islam didn't already exist <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:888102719] in This was A... [t:75847876]...</cite> <quote><cite>DreadedWave posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BalisticWarri0r posted...</cite> <quote><cite>wasserpanzer posted...</cite> <quote>It's funny and kinda scary how many people in this topic have no idea WTF they're talking about.</quote></quote> Enlighten us</quote> I think he's referring to the the people saying Islam as if it didn't already exist in the country.</quote> nobody said islam didn't already exist</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
--kresnik-- 10/09/17 12:29:30 PM #52:	CarlGrimes posted... What happened was the CIA and islam. --- And that's the bottom line, cuz southcoast said so. If you sit for the anthem, then you sit for the game. <cite>--kresnik-- posted [p:888102732] in This was A... [t:75847876]...</cite> <quote><cite>CarlGrimes posted...</cite> <quote>What happened was the CIA and islam.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wasserpanzer 10/09/17 1:14:39 PM #53:	What happened was first world countries and imperialism, the root of all modern political problems. The brits were paranoid that the russians would take over afghanistan and use it as a launch pad for their influence and attacks against their colonies in india, so they sent spies and troops to the area. The russians were, obviously, in the same boat and also sent spies to investigate. After a while the brits decided to invade and failed miserably. This went on for a while and came to be known as, "the great game". Some time later king amanullah had enough of this shit and declared independence and tried to reform the country. Got rid of the burqa, made education mandatory for both genders and abolished slavery. Apparently all the conservatives didn't like all these crazy new ideas and assassinated him. RIP real progress. Fast forward to the cold war, USSR and USA try to play, "the great game" round 2 and the rest is pretty much history. I think you guys are more or less familiar with the rest of the political machinations by both parties. Also for some reason a lot of you keep bringing up islam or radical islam, but like others have said that was there long before imperialism came to ruin the day. Religion was just another device they used to help them manipulate the geopolitical climate. Exact same thing would have happened if they were zoroastrian/tengri/etc. --- Pineapples are in my head. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t92/muttley1211/bug.gif <cite>wasserpanzer posted [p:888105389] in This was A... [t:75847876]...</cite> <quote>What happened was first world countries and imperialism, the root of all modern political problems. The brits were paranoid that the russians would take over afghanistan and use it as a launch pad for their influence and attacks against their colonies in india, so they sent spies and troops to the area. The russians were, obviously, in the same boat and also sent spies to investigate. After a while the brits decided to invade and failed miserably. This went on for a while and came to be known as, "the great game". Some time later king amanullah had enough of this shit and declared independence and tried to reform the country. Got rid of the burqa, made education mandatory for both genders and abolished slavery. Apparently all the conservatives didn't like all these crazy new ideas and assassinated him. RIP real progress. Fast forward to the cold war, USSR and USA try to play, "the great game" round 2 and the rest is pretty much history. I think you guys are more or less familiar with the rest of the political machinations by both parties. Also for some reason a lot of you keep bringing up islam or radical islam, but like others have said that was there long before imperialism came to ruin the day. Religion was just another device they used to help them manipulate the geopolitical climate. Exact same thing would have happened if they were zoroastrian/tengri/etc.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CelestialVoices 10/09/17 1:24:39 PM #54:	tag --- emo trash http://www.last.fm/user/pinkfloydrulez <cite>CelestialVoices posted [p:888105962] in This was A... [t:75847876]...</cite> <quote>tag</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pow Pow Punishment 10/09/17 1:49:26 PM #55:	I don't get the people in here downplaying the fundamentalism aspect. Of course Islam was in the country before. The Taliban controlling the majority of the country after being empowered by the west was a new development. Extremism won the ensuing civil war. --- "I knew that I would get a chance to see the world and beat up its people." -Josh Barnett on martial arts Training: http://Machinhate.blogspot.com <cite>Pow Pow Punishment posted [p:888107548] in This was A... [t:75847876]...</cite> <quote>I don't get the people in here downplaying the fundamentalism aspect. Of course Islam was in the country before. The Taliban controlling the majority of the country after being empowered by the west was a new development. Extremism won the ensuing civil war.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 10/09/17 1:53:54 PM #56:	Pow Pow Punishment posted... I don't get the people in here downplaying the fundamentalism aspect. Of course Islam was in the country before. The Taliban controlling the majority of the country after being empowered by the west was a new development. Extremism won the ensuing civil war. If people came into America and fucked it up and extreme Christianity took over in the power vacuum aftermath, would it be Christianity's fault or the people who destroyed our country? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:888107845] in This was A... [t:75847876]...</cite> <quote><cite>Pow Pow Punishment posted...</cite> <quote>I don't get the people in here downplaying the fundamentalism aspect. Of course Islam was in the country before. The Taliban controlling the majority of the country after being empowered by the west was a new development. Extremism won the ensuing civil war.</quote> If people came into America and fucked it up and extreme Christianity took over in the power vacuum aftermath, would it be Christianity's fault or the people who destroyed our country?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wasserpanzer 10/09/17 2:52:17 PM #57:	hockeybub89 posted... Pow Pow Punishment posted... I don't get the people in here downplaying the fundamentalism aspect. Of course Islam was in the country before. The Taliban controlling the majority of the country after being empowered by the west was a new development. Extremism won the ensuing civil war. If people came into America and fucked it up and extreme Christianity took over in the power vacuum aftermath, would it be Christianity's fault or the people who destroyed our country? this Pow Pow Punishment posted... after being empowered by the west you said it yourself. if not for external influence, they would have never gained popular acceptance --- Pineapples are in my head. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t92/muttley1211/bug.gif <cite>wasserpanzer posted [p:888111361] in This was A... [t:75847876]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Pow Pow Punishment posted...</cite> <quote>I don't get the people in here downplaying the fundamentalism aspect. Of course Islam was in the country before. The Taliban controlling the majority of the country after being empowered by the west was a new development. Extremism won the ensuing civil war.</quote> If people came into America and fucked it up and extreme Christianity took over in the power vacuum aftermath, would it be Christianity's fault or the people who destroyed our country?</quote> this <cite>Pow Pow Punishment posted...</cite> <quote>after being empowered by the west</quote> you said it yourself. if not for external influence, they would have never gained popular acceptance</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pow Pow Punishment 10/09/17 4:21:57 PM #58:	hockeybub89 posted... If people came into America and f*ed it up and extreme Christianity took over in the power vacuum aftermath, would it be Christianity's fault or the people who destroyed our country? Both. Blame should go on the enablers and the actors. It'd be crazy to eschew responsibility for either one. Edit: your analogy isn't actually applicable in its wording. I'm blaming 1. outside influencers and 2. fundamentalists, not "Islam" as a mere ideology. So you would have to change that to "Would you blame the fundamentalist Christians?", not "Would you blame Christianity?" wasserpanzer posted... you said it yourself. if not for external influence, they would have never gained popular acceptance It's disingenuous to say the Taliban regime enjoyed "popular acceptance" and that's why they ruled the country. We need to look at the history to find out why they were more powerful than Ahmad Shah Massoud's secular, moderate forces coming out of the Soviet war. Massoud's fundamentalist nemesis, Hekmatyar, received more CIA support even though Massoud was MUCH more effective at fighting the Soviets. Come the American invasion, a majority of polled Afghans supported overthrowing the Taliban oppressors with their foreign Arab bedfellows. Anyway, like I said, one isn't mutually exclusive from the other. External influence and religious extremism are both to blame. --- "I knew that I would get a chance to see the world and beat up its people." -Josh Barnett on martial arts Training: http://Machinhate.blogspot.com <cite>Pow Pow Punishment posted [p:888116715] in This was A... [t:75847876]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>If people came into America and f*ed it up and extreme Christianity took over in the power vacuum aftermath, would it be Christianity's fault or the people who destroyed our country? </quote> Both. Blame should go on the enablers and the actors. It'd be crazy to eschew responsibility for either one. Edit: your analogy isn't actually applicable in its wording. I'm blaming 1. outside influencers and 2. fundamentalists, not "Islam" as a mere ideology. So you would have to change that to "Would you blame the fundamentalist Christians?", not "Would you blame Christianity?" <cite>wasserpanzer posted...</cite> <quote>you said it yourself. if not for external influence, they would have never gained popular acceptance</quote> It's disingenuous to say the Taliban regime enjoyed "popular acceptance" and that's why they ruled the country. We need to look at the history to find out why they were more powerful than Ahmad Shah Massoud's secular, moderate forces coming out of the Soviet war. Massoud's fundamentalist nemesis, Hekmatyar, received more CIA support even though Massoud was MUCH more effective at fighting the Soviets. Come the American invasion, a majority of polled Afghans supported overthrowing the Taliban oppressors with their foreign Arab bedfellows. Anyway, like I said, one isn't mutually exclusive from the other. External influence and religious extremism are both to blame.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wasserpanzer 10/09/17 5:12:23 PM #59:	Pow Pow Punishment posted... External influence and religious extremism are both to blame. agreed. im just putting the majority of the blame on external influence. --- Pineapples are in my head. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t92/muttley1211/bug.gif <cite>wasserpanzer posted [p:888119587] in This was A... [t:75847876]...</cite> <quote><cite>Pow Pow Punishment posted...</cite> <quote>External influence and religious extremism are both to blame.</quote> agreed. im just putting the majority of the blame on external influence.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 10/11/17 4:37:34 AM #61:	The cold war happened --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:888216361] in This was A... [t:75847876]...</cite> <quote>The cold war happened</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ValedictorianDr 10/12/17 11:55:58 PM #62:	Seeing this on camera is almost depressing <cite>ValedictorianDr posted [p:888337064] in This was A... [t:75847876]...</cite> <quote>Seeing this on camera is almost depressing</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 10/13/17 4:40:40 AM #63:	Pow Pow Punishment posted... hockeybub89 posted... If people came into America and f*ed it up and extreme Christianity took over in the power vacuum aftermath, would it be Christianity's fault or the people who destroyed our country? Both. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJIfeinL2eI --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:888346303] in This was A... [t:75847876]...</cite> <quote><cite>Pow Pow Punishment posted...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... If people came into America and f*ed it up and extreme Christianity took over in the power vacuum aftermath, would it be Christianity's fault or the people who destroyed our country? Both.</quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJIfeinL2eI</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mortimerjames 10/13/17 5:50:22 AM #64:	So basically it's like GOT spoilers ~~Cersei empowering that religious nutjob~~ --- Tell me the story about how people used to believe in the Bible - Future kid to their grandparents <cite>mortimerjames posted [p:888347719] in This was A... [t:75847876]...</cite> <quote>So basically it's like GOT spoilers Cersei empowering that religious nutjob</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RickyTheBAWSE 10/13/17 6:17:26 AM #65:	interference from the powers who we deny the existence of. --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! <cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted [p:888348247] in This was A... [t:75847876]...</cite> <quote>interference from the powers who we deny the existence of.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LoneCourier2281 10/13/17 6:26:10 AM #66:	wasserpanzer posted... USA and USSR decided it was a good playground --- "I don't like sand. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere." <cite>LoneCourier2281 posted [p:888348426] in This was A... [t:75847876]...</cite> <quote><cite>wasserpanzer posted...</cite> <quote>USA and USSR decided it was a good playground</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RE_expert44 10/13/17 6:28:47 AM #67:	Dark_SilverX posted... Their women are so damn sexy I habe a Pac man ghost fetish too --- RESIDENT EVIL COMMUNITY BOARD http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1074-resident-evil-past-present-and-future <cite>RE_expert44 posted [p:888348487] in This was A... [t:75847876]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dark_SilverX posted...</cite> <quote>Their women are so damn sexy</quote> I habe a Pac man ghost fetish too</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scorpion41 10/13/17 6:31:10 AM #68:	Destabilization and Islam. --- PSN: scorpion_4160 Currently Playing: NCAA 14, Darksiders series(PS3) <cite>scorpion41 posted [p:888348535] in This was A... [t:75847876]...</cite> <quote>Destabilization and Islam.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LepartialJury 10/15/17 5:29:57 AM #69:	Tragedy struck --- Simple-straight-narrow <cite>LepartialJury posted [p:888463854] in This was A... [t:75847876]...</cite> <quote>Tragedy struck</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Flintgrandad 10/17/17 5:29:29 AM #70:	scorpion41 posted... Destabilization and Islam. <cite>Flintgrandad posted [p:888587074] in This was A... [t:75847876]...</cite> <quote><cite>scorpion41 posted...</cite> <quote>Destabilization and Islam.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pojr 10/17/17 6:04:56 AM #72:	Is Afghanistan the country that Kite Runner was based on? If so, it was definitely the Soviets >_> --- pojr I summon it. You spell it. <cite>pojr posted [p:888587629] in This was A... [t:75847876]...</cite> <quote>Is Afghanistan the country that Kite Runner was based on? If so, it was definitely the Soviets >_></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Flintgrandad 10/19/17 4:47:11 AM #73:	scorpion41 posted... Destabilization and Islam. <cite>Flintgrandad posted [p:888714280] in This was A... [t:75847876]...</cite> <quote><cite>scorpion41 posted...</cite> <quote>Destabilization and Islam.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PBusted 10/21/17 1:16:47 AM #74:	SomeGuyUO posted... https://www.amnesty.org.uk/files/webfm/pictures/women/548x331_afghan_women_1970s_via_twitter.jpg Damn, it's pretty heartbreaking thinking what their fates might've been <cite>PBusted posted [p:888835711] in This was A... [t:75847876]...</cite> <quote><cite>SomeGuyUO posted...</cite> <quote>https://www.amnesty.org.uk/files/webfm/pictures/women/548x331_afghan_women_1970s_via_twitter.jpg</quote> Damn, it's pretty heartbreaking thinking what their fates might've been</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Flintgrandad 10/23/17 2:39:16 AM #75:	scorpion41 posted... Destabilization and Islam. <cite>Flintgrandad posted [p:888959376] in This was A... [t:75847876]...</cite> <quote><cite>scorpion41 posted...</cite> <quote>Destabilization and Islam.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CartmanMustDie 10/25/17 8:33:05 PM #77:	They look so carefree <cite>CartmanMustDie posted [p:889145864] in This was A... [t:75847876]...</cite> <quote>They look so carefree</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 10/25/17 8:33:31 PM #78:	Just stop. --- http://i.imgur.com/VeNBg.gif http://i.imgur.com/gd5jC8q.gif http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif http://i.imgur.com/3p29JqP.gif <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:889145884] in This was A... [t:75847876]...</cite> <quote>Just stop.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 10/28/17 2:52:32 AM #80:	DemonBuffet posted... Peaceful religions Always quick to blame that, when economic oil interest in the country have pretty much destabilized the region for the past few hundred years. Now we have asshole fucking monster terrorists blowing up shit and the solution is to pile on more imperialism. It's a big fucking clusterfuck. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:889295947] in This was A... [t:75847876]...</cite> <quote><cite>DemonBuffet posted...</cite> <quote>Peaceful religions</quote> Always quick to blame that, when economic oil interest in the country have pretty much destabilized the region for the past few hundred years. Now we have asshole fucking monster terrorists blowing up shit and the solution is to pile on more imperialism. It's a big fucking clusterfuck.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LoneCourier2281 10/28/17 3:13:33 AM #81:	Yeah, I mean the Soviet invasion in particular kind of fucked up some stuff. --- "I don't like sand. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere." <cite>LoneCourier2281 posted [p:889296440] in This was A... [t:75847876]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, I mean the Soviet invasion in particular kind of fucked up some stuff.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RickyTheBAWSE 10/28/17 3:18:16 AM #82:	on today's episode of Short-Sighted Conquerors, we learn about cause and effect! --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! <cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted [p:889296565] in This was A... [t:75847876]...</cite> <quote>on today's episode of Short-Sighted Conquerors, we learn about cause and effect!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StarSpangled 10/30/17 2:26:15 AM #83:	LoneCourier2281 posted... Yeah, I mean the Soviet invasion in particular kind of fucked up some stuff. This. There were a lot greater aftereffects than we anticipated. <cite>StarSpangled posted [p:889410051] in This was A... [t:75847876]...</cite> <quote><cite>LoneCourier2281 posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah, I mean the Soviet invasion in particular kind of fucked up some stuff.</quote> This. There were a lot greater aftereffects than we anticipated.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CartmanMustDie 11/01/17 1:47:16 AM #84:	UnholyMudcrab posted... Just stop. Stop what <cite>CartmanMustDie posted [p:889538746] in This was A... [t:75847876]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnholyMudcrab posted...</cite> <quote>Just stop.</quote> Stop what</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 11/03/17 6:30:24 AM #86:	Philoktetes posted... the soviet union wsa the greatest evil ever to befall the earth And liberals still think that's how the world should be. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:889671886] in This was A... [t:75847876]...</cite> <quote><cite>Philoktetes posted...</cite> <quote>the soviet union wsa the greatest evil ever to befall the earth</quote> And liberals still think that's how the world should be.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dr_zomberg 11/03/17 6:37:28 AM #87:	SomeGuyUO posted... https://www.amnesty.org.uk/files/webfm/pictures/women/548x331_afghan_women_1970s_via_twitter.jpg the taliban. says so right in the picture too. (in portuguese). what i dont get is, since the taliban is no longer in power there, why is there still an oppresive dress code for women in place? --- 3d erotica maker, videogame collector, phd in zombie lore. Also a girl "dont call gay art gay" -some mod. then WHAT is it, and WHATS its name???? <cite>dr_zomberg posted [p:889672037] in This was A... [t:75847876]...</cite> <quote><cite>SomeGuyUO posted...</cite> <quote>https://www.amnesty.org.uk/files/webfm/pictures/women/548x331_afghan_women_1970s_via_twitter.jpg</quote> the taliban. says so right in the picture too. (in portuguese). what i dont get is, since the taliban is no longer in power there, why is there still an oppresive dress code for women in place?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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