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VEGAS SHOOTING OFFICIAL SCENARIO CRUMBLING

By Jon Rappoport

Lone shooter? Really? And this is supposed to be more than a convenient fantasy?

Yesterday, I did a brief analysis of the number of people killed and wounded at the Vegas Concert (573) in roughly four and half minutes, which is the police estimate of the duration of the attack.

I mistakenly reversed figures. The correct conclusion would be: the lone shooter killed or wounded 2.1 persons per second. It is HIGHLY doubtful Paddock could have done that. His distance from the concert, his lack of professional skill, his state of mind, among other factors, rule against it.

Any competent and honest law-enforcement analyst would see a huge red flag right away.

But of course, multiple shooters destroys the official narrative and opens the door to an investigation that could expose, for example, an intentional false flag operation.

Here is a piece of Jeff Rense's analysis of rate-of-fire vs. people struck by bullets. It cuts to the core of the absurd lone shooter assumption:

"...a potential MAXIMUM of only 360 rounds could be fired at full auto burst with NO magazine changes in the approximate four minutes or 240 seconds of the shooting!"

"So, Paddock didn't fire 360 rounds in 240 seconds because he had to stop and change magazines...probably 30 round mags. That would be THIRTEEN magazine changes

in the 240 seconds. And it is reported he fired from both broken out windows in the room/s."

"Survivors state there were shooting pauses and that is when they would run."

"Let's say Paddock managed to get off an amazing 300 rounds in 4 minutes (or 240 seconds) and hit someone with EVERY ROUND."

"Remember, there were 573 killed and wounded according to late statistics."

"WHO, then, fired off the other full-auto 273 rounds also without missing a single shot ?!"

Another man who apparently has significant professional background re weapons has sent me his detailed analysis:

"There is NO WAY in hell that this inexperienced guy was able to hit 500+ people, at a down sloping range of approximately 250-350 yards using a make-shift weapon modified to shot automatically. Here are some reasons why and you can check with other experts to verify my points."

"1. It was dark and no matter how well lit, there are many shadows to hide in.

2. Simple a 'sear' (pronounced see-er) modification would have only permitted one entire magazine to shoot all at once with no select fire (being able to start and stop).

3. There are some devices (like AutoGlove and Bump Fire) that can simulate full automatic fire, but they cannot be used accurately or effectively.

4. Even if the shooter was able to somehow obtain a full normal functioning automatic rifle, anyone with military experience can tell you that the rifles are difficult to control when firing more than 3 round bursts - especially a .308 or AK47 type. This is because the rifle will uncontrollably rise if automatic fire is constant.

5. After the first 15 or so seconds, the crowd scattered and took cover.

6. I don't have a count of how many pieces of empty brass (fired rounds) they have recovered, but knowing how many shots were fired compared to how many people were hit will tell you the hit ratio. If this guy did this in 20 seconds, we needed him desperately in Afghanistan!

7. To fire 500 aimed shoots and swap out magazines would have taken him about 15-20 minutes, and there is no way that each shot would have hit someone - more than likely would have missed.

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"the shooter isn't muslim, black, or antifa, therefore there must be a big conspiracy behind it"
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It's a conspiracy!
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Oh
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"To put in perspective.... Say a guy purchases an expensive bolt action rifle in .308 with a nice expensive scope. Without experience, someone would have to mount the scope for him and do a rough sighting in with a laser. This individual then takes this rifle to a range in broad daylight with no stress and using a bench rest and breathing techniques and all the time in the world and fires at a target 300 yards. It is possible, but doubtful if that person could hit a large refrigerator at that range UNLESS they had LOTS OF PRACTICE and EXPERIENCE. For every 1 minute (1/60th of a degree) of angle change at the rifle, the bullet would vary by 3 inches at 300 yards. For this untrained guy to be wildly shooting with a high heart rate at nighttime? Well, bullets would be going everywhere!"

I fully understand that the estimates of 573 killed and wounded, and the police statement that all the shooting took place in four and half minutes, may be off. These figures may not be precise.

Nevertheless, they are a good and proper starting point. And even allowing for later adjustments, the evidence for multiple shooters and against a lone amateur like Paddock is stunning.

So why won't law-enforcement take notice?

Because, in certain cases with great consequences, the overall agenda and the direction of an investigation are set from offices far higher than the positions of the actual detectives and agents on the scene.

"This is what we want to know. Only this. Everything else is off limits."

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http://americanloons.blogspot.com/2014/05/1050-jon-rappoport.html
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Iunno. There's just some useful info. Take it as you will. Lots of stuff has been popping up.
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Is there a source for this word vomit?
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FaytlessHearts posted...

For this untrained guy to be wildly shooting with a high heart rate at nighttime? Well, bullets would be going everywhere!"

well when he's firing into a crowd of 22,000 people
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Where is that guy getting the 5 minutes of shooting. Everything Ive read is that it was 10 minutes.

Also not everyone was injured because of a gun wound. There were tons of trampled victims too.
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I didn't think all 573 of the injured were wounded by bullets but rather many were trampled in the confusion caused by the shooter. Am I wrong?
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Jet fuel can't JFK the Moon landing.
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Pretty sure the numbers include people injured in the stampede as well as shooting victims. Also, pass through shots can get more than one person per shot.

The shooter was practically shooting fish in a barrel, he didn't really have to even aim.
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That_Happened posted...

I didn't think all 573 of the injured were wounded by bullets but rather many were trampled in the confusion caused by the shooter. Am I wrong?

yea when they say 573 injured it doesnt mean 573 hit by bullets, it means people getting trampled, tripping over stuff, hit by broken glass etc
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Yeah I'm sure when you're in the highest level of secrecy and crafting a conspiracy to fool the masses the first story you go with is the one that will be questioned constantly, that will be torn apart piece by piece by anyone with internet access and an urge to feel smart.
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Is the 4 minute time frame accurate?
Also if he had 10 guns he wouldnt need to change mags he could have just switched guns.
On the other hand having so many weapons could lend credence to multiple shooters as well
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The author of the article in the OP seems quite insane. Here's his website: http://www.nomorefakenews.com/index.html
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Trigg3rH4ppy posted...

Pretty sure the numbers include people injured in the stampede as well as shooting victims. Also, pass through shots can get more than one person per shot.

The shooter was practically shooting fish in a barrel, he didn't really have to even aim.

He probably could have been standing up there with shotguns and buckshot, and still hit/injured a lot of people. When it's a mass of 22,000 people in one location, it's not exactly hard to do things like shoot to kill.

Also, it's not like he was completely unskilled, as there is evidence that he was practising shooting at home.
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the phrase "fish in a barrel" comes to mind
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I would find an analysis of how many bullets fired in the allotted time vs the Rifles actual a rate of fire interesting.

But too much time is spent talking about how he was too inexperienced to hit anyone. If you fire full auto at 20000 people crowded together the chances of missing anything is almost nothing.

Edit: I should clarify for mouth breathers it's interesting if true. I have no idea how long he was actually firing on the crowd or how many rounds were fired.
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I mean, I guess the guy who wrote it is crazy. He looks a little off.
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This guy's "back of the envelope" calculation assumes every single injury was due to a bullet when it's already confirmed that a significant number of the injured were due to the stampede once the shooting started. Like all consipracy theories, it's based entirely on a fundamental misunderstanding of math and a total lack of context behind the raw numbers involved.
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Whoever wrote this is an idiot or willfully attempting to mislead people. Him being a troll is always a possibility.
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Melonfarms posted...

Whoever wrote this is an idiot or willfully attempting to mislead people. Him being a troll is always a possibility.

thelovefist posted...

The author of the article in the OP seems quite insane. Here's his website: http://www.nomorefakenews.com/index.html

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There's video of the shooting going on for 10 minutes though.

This is like the YouTube comments on the Las Vegas journal video about how you don't see anyone running away with any blood on on them.
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what youve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
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It's obviously an international false flag setting up another false flag that set up another false flag.
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Personally, this story seems fishy to me.

However. The tattoo he has on his neck from every released photo from his family is missing on the photos of the body released from authorities or whoever leaked those photos is throwing me off. You should totally be able to see it, or at least laser removal scars. Iunno.
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KILBOTz posted...

what youve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Me? I didn't write this..just showing CE some crazy story.
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With the death toll, the level of premeditation and the lack of political motive, this shooting was bound to attract the conspiracy theorists. For trolls that cry, "it's because he was white, wahhhhhhh!!!", explain all of the conspiracies surrounding 9/11? The most deadly terrorist event in human history is officially attributed to "radical Islam", but legions of white people have refused to accept that explanation, instead opting to blame the US Government (mostly white).

Steel.

Beams.
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The only crazy thing is the tattoo..like, nobody can explain it. Nobody knows.

Don't authorities classify gangs in prison via tattoos? So it should be easily explain, right? Lol
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@Musourenka posted...

Jet fuel can't JFK the Moon landing.

You sir, have just made my day!
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FaytlessHearts posted...

KILBOTz posted...

what youve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Me? I didn't write this..just showing CE some crazy story.

Another story riddeled with inaccuracies being pushed forward.

You'd think these guys could at least get the undisputed facts right...
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If you dont read from somewhere, youre uninformed.
If you get it from the news, youre misinformed.
this is what Denzel Washington pretty much said.
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Last I saw, there was an estimation of 120 people that suffered gunshot wounds. That comes from hospitals.

Secondly, here's 10 minutes of uninterrupted footage. There was only one shooter as you can distinctly hear each shot and echo.

NSFW
http://content.jwplatform.com/previews/DCADb31h-FAOf4K8g
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