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Ruvan22
10/03/17 8:42:50 PM
#52:


Thugstar posted...
Got a source on that? Or are you just talking out of your ass?


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1140944/

Since YOU were the one claiming otherwise, initial burden of proof is on you, but I'm a nice guy :)
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MikeArmstrong
10/04/17 9:08:21 AM
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Ving_Rhames
10/04/17 9:12:05 AM
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Thugstar posted...
We didn't need vaccinations 20+ years ago and we don't need them now. Despicable how you can't be the owner of your own children. There's also the foolishness of trusting all these substances. As long as it's "official" it must be fine right?


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Iodine
10/04/17 9:12:16 AM
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Religion is bad.
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Funkydog
10/04/17 9:13:57 AM
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I am all for mandatory vaccinations, but I don't think sending parents to prison who refuse is the way to resolve it still.
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DirkDiggles
10/04/17 9:18:42 AM
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Instead of throwing her in prison, have her child taken away and given to the Father.
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Villain
10/04/17 9:42:57 AM
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Ruvan22 posted...
Thugstar posted...
Got a source on that? Or are you just talking out of your ass?


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1140944/

Since YOU were the one claiming otherwise, initial burden of proof is on you, but I'm a nice guy :)

Please respond @Thugstar
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eston
10/04/17 9:50:34 AM
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This isn't about her religion, it's about her maintaining control. She's making it all about herself. "I'd rather be behind bars standing up for what I believe in" well okay lady but your kid's not going to have a mom and will be vaccinated while you're in prison.
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ChromaticAngel
10/04/17 9:54:00 AM
#61:


Ruvan22 posted...
Thugstar posted...
Got a source on that? Or are you just talking out of your ass?


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1140944/

Since YOU were the one claiming otherwise, initial burden of proof is on you, but I'm a nice guy :)


that's not really how burden of proof works.

generally speaking, burden of proof rests on people making a claim that is incredibly hard to falsify. For example, if I say, "there is a teapot in independent orbit around the sun" it would be insanely hard to prove that statement was objectively false, so it's on me to prove that it's true.

when someone makes a claim that is patently obviously false, it's better to just provide proof that they're a fucking bullshitter as you have and move on from the argument.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
10/04/17 10:27:08 AM
#62:


DirkDiggles posted...
Instead of throwing her in prison, have her child taken away and given to the Father.


I mean why not both?
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LightHawKnight
10/04/17 11:11:07 AM
#63:


DirkDiggles posted...
Instead of throwing her in prison, have her child taken away and given to the Father.


That would be best.
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Thugstar
10/04/17 11:54:21 AM
#64:


Villain posted...
Ruvan22 posted...
Thugstar posted...
Got a source on that? Or are you just talking out of your ass?


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1140944/

Since YOU were the one claiming otherwise, initial burden of proof is on you, but I'm a nice guy :)

Please respond @Thugstar

I was talking about all the poor countries and gave India randomly as an example. It's not relevant what the specific situation is over there. Common sense says if poor people are struggling to get food why would you think governments will hand out vaccinations for free? In those countries people don't just die because they lack vaccinations so neither should they in developed countries.
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ChromaticAngel
10/04/17 12:01:16 PM
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Thugstar posted...
I was talking about all the poor countries and gave India randomly as an example. It's not relevant what the specific situation is over there. Common sense says if poor people are struggling to get food why would you think governments will hand out vaccinations for free? In those countries people don't just die because they lack vaccinations so neither should they in developed countries.


https://www.gatesfoundation.org/What-We-Do/Global-Development/Vaccine-Delivery
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SageHarpuia
10/04/17 12:03:34 PM
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There is nothing in the Bible that suggests that disease prevention is wrong. The woman has no basis.
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Biofighter55
10/04/17 12:23:07 PM
#68:


thrashmetal14 posted...
It worries me that so many people are fine with forcing vaccinations on people. Im definitely not an anti-vaxxer whatsoever, but dont you people kinda worry that giving the government the legal right to force medical procedures onto people without their consent could turn out terribly bad?


There is consent, the dad wants them for his child, but the mother doesn't
the father is involved enough to be able to take her to court.

Why are we arguing about government forcing vaccines on kids, when
it says in the article the father took her to court to make her give their kid vaccines.
Not the government making her give her kid vaccines.
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LightHawKnight
10/04/17 12:23:48 PM
#69:


SageHarpuia posted...
There is nothing in the Bible that suggests that disease prevention is wrong. The woman has no basis.


One of those fools that think praying will fix the issue instead of doctors?
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E32005
10/04/17 12:28:10 PM
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Thugstar
10/04/17 3:05:10 PM
#71:


Asherlee10 posted...
Thugstar posted...
Villain posted...
Ruvan22 posted...
Thugstar posted...
Got a source on that? Or are you just talking out of your ass?


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1140944/

Since YOU were the one claiming otherwise, initial burden of proof is on you, but I'm a nice guy :)

Please respond @Thugstar

I was talking about all the poor countries and gave India randomly as an example. It's not relevant what the specific situation is over there. Common sense says if poor people are struggling to get food why would you think governments will hand out vaccinations for free? In those countries people don't just die because they lack vaccinations so neither should they in developed countries.


What do you not understand about herd immunity?

dwgG8sH

And why do you think under-developed countries never experienced disease epidemics?

Smallpox ravaged 30% of the population in areas like Africa and Asia. 5 million people died.

The Black Plague wiped out 1/3 of the world's population INCLUDING under-developed countries.

In India, the cholera epidemic wiped out thousands in the 19th century.

The fact that you have to dig so deep into history proves there is nothing to worry about nowadays even in poor countries.
Don't throw links at me because I can do the same showing how all those vaccines are paralyzing kids.
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LightHawKnight
10/04/17 3:09:53 PM
#72:


Thugstar posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
Thugstar posted...
Villain posted...
Ruvan22 posted...
Thugstar posted...
Got a source on that? Or are you just talking out of your ass?


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1140944/

Since YOU were the one claiming otherwise, initial burden of proof is on you, but I'm a nice guy :)

Please respond @Thugstar

I was talking about all the poor countries and gave India randomly as an example. It's not relevant what the specific situation is over there. Common sense says if poor people are struggling to get food why would you think governments will hand out vaccinations for free? In those countries people don't just die because they lack vaccinations so neither should they in developed countries.


What do you not understand about herd immunity?

dwgG8sH

And why do you think under-developed countries never experienced disease epidemics?

Smallpox ravaged 30% of the population in areas like Africa and Asia. 5 million people died.

The Black Plague wiped out 1/3 of the world's population INCLUDING under-developed countries.

In India, the cholera epidemic wiped out thousands in the 19th century.

The fact that you have to dig so deep into history proves there is nothing to worry about nowadays even in poor countries.
Don't throw links at me because I can do the same showing how all those vaccines are paralyzing kids.


Where. Give me a link where vaccines paralyze kids. Though I bet you will link something related to GBS. And even then the risk of driving would kill more kids. Cause temporary paralysis doesn't kill.
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hockeybub89
10/04/17 3:14:05 PM
#73:


thrashmetal14 posted...
It worries me that so many people are fine with forcing vaccinations on people. Im definitely not an anti-vaxxer whatsoever, but dont you people kinda worry that giving the government the legal right to force medical procedures onto people without their consent could turn out terribly bad?

You don't have to vaccinate your kid. Just homeschool them and never interact with the public. No one is forcing isolated hill people to vaccinate. But you are essentially abusing your kid and/or other kids if you live in populated areas. Eradicated diseases are coming back thanks to anti-vax fuckheads..
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DirkDiggles
10/04/17 3:16:57 PM
#74:


Thugstar posted...
The fact that you have to dig so deep into history proves there is nothing to worry about nowadays even in poor countries.
Don't throw links at me because I can do the same showing how all those vaccines are paralyzing kids.


Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
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Thugstar
10/04/17 3:23:31 PM
#75:


If you want to know the bad things about vaccinations, do your own research. There's tons of examples to find. Don't just sit there acting like the researchers you don't know but trust anyway, know what's best for your kids. If it ain't broke don't try to fix it. You have no clue about potential side effects in the long term and choose to ignore or dismiss any examples of already known victims. "If it's not on CNN it can't be true".
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LightHawKnight
10/04/17 3:24:28 PM
#76:


Thugstar posted...
If you want to know the bad things about vaccinations, do your own research. There's tons of examples to find. Don't just sit there acting like the researchers you don't know but trust anyway, know what's best for your kids. If it ain't broke don't try to fix it. You have no clue about potential side effects in the long term and choose to ignore or dismiss any examples of already known victims. "If it's not on CNN it can't be true".


So you have nothing, no proof at all. Have fun killing people with your diseases.
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Thugstar
10/04/17 3:30:35 PM
#77:


LightHawKnight posted...
Thugstar posted...
If you want to know the bad things about vaccinations, do your own research. There's tons of examples to find. Don't just sit there acting like the researchers you don't know but trust anyway, know what's best for your kids. If it ain't broke don't try to fix it. You have no clue about potential side effects in the long term and choose to ignore or dismiss any examples of already known victims. "If it's not on CNN it can't be true".


So you have nothing, no proof at all. Have fun killing people with your diseases.

I have the whole internet. You choose to keep your eyes closed. Keep watching CNN and Game of Thrones.
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IfGodCouldDie
10/04/17 3:31:07 PM
#78:


Thugstar posted...
I am a bad troll and can't believe people are seriously responding to me.

Right?
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Thugstar
10/04/17 3:32:02 PM
#79:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Thugstar posted...
I am a bad troll and can't believe people are seriously responding to me.

Right?

The irony.
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ChromaticAngel
10/04/17 3:32:14 PM
#80:


Thugstar posted...
The fact that you have to dig so deep into history proves there is nothing to worry about nowadays even in poor countries.


1.5 million kids die every year from diseases that can be vaccinated against. Today. Not in history. Today.

People are dying from diseases in poor countries that don't exist in America because of vaccinations.

Lets say that 100 people got paralyzed. (they didn't, but lets say they did)

that's 100 paralyzed people out of the billions of vaccinations that have been administered since they were developed and billions more who died or suffered from diseases that we can prevent today with vaccines.

Which side do you want to gamble your kid on? the 100 / many billions or the slightly less billions / many billions
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Thugstar
10/04/17 3:36:55 PM
#81:


ChromaticAngel posted...
Thugstar posted...
The fact that you have to dig so deep into history proves there is nothing to worry about nowadays even in poor countries.


1.5 million kids die every year from diseases that can be vaccinated against. Today. Not in history. Today.

People are dying from diseases in poor countries that don't exist in America because of vaccinations.

Lets say that 100 people got paralyzed. (they didn't, but lets say they did)

that's 100 paralyzed people out of the billions of vaccinations that have been administered since they were developed and billions more who died or suffered from diseases that we can prevent today with vaccines.

Which side do you want to gamble your kid on? the 100 / many billions or the slightly less billions / many billions

800 billion kids die every day from vaccination side effects. Anyone can grab numbers out of thin air. Don't talk about numbers without a source.
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evosthunder
10/04/17 3:39:57 PM
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Its funny that you demand your opponents provide sources, yet you yourself have yet to do that.
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ChromaticAngel
10/04/17 3:43:08 PM
#83:


Thugstar posted...
800 billion kids die every day from vaccination side effects. Anyone can grab numbers out of thin air. Don't talk about numbers without a source.

The source was already posted at post #65
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IfGodCouldDie
10/04/17 3:59:56 PM
#84:


Thugstar posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Thugstar posted...
I am a bad troll and can't believe people are seriously responding to me.

Right?

This guy gets it.

Thanks, you've been fairly obvious.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
10/04/17 4:27:20 PM
#85:


Thugstar posted...
If you want to know the bad things about vaccinations, do your own research. There's tons of examples to find. Don't just sit there acting like the researchers you don't know but trust anyway, know what's best for your kids. If it ain't broke don't try to fix it. You have no clue about potential side effects in the long term and choose to ignore or dismiss any examples of already known victims. "If it's not on CNN it can't be true".


If I am going to do my own research, where would you recommend I look? Infowars?
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ImTheMacheteGuy
10/04/17 4:28:06 PM
#86:


Thugstar posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
Thugstar posted...
The fact that you have to dig so deep into history proves there is nothing to worry about nowadays even in poor countries.


1.5 million kids die every year from diseases that can be vaccinated against. Today. Not in history. Today.

People are dying from diseases in poor countries that don't exist in America because of vaccinations.

Lets say that 100 people got paralyzed. (they didn't, but lets say they did)

that's 100 paralyzed people out of the billions of vaccinations that have been administered since they were developed and billions more who died or suffered from diseases that we can prevent today with vaccines.

Which side do you want to gamble your kid on? the 100 / many billions or the slightly less billions / many billions

800 billion kids die every day from vaccination side effects.

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Thugstar
10/04/17 4:28:39 PM
#87:


Better than CNN.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
10/04/17 4:31:21 PM
#88:


Thugstar posted...
Better than CNN.


So infowars then.
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Thugstar
10/04/17 4:49:56 PM
#89:


So CNN then.
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Axiom
10/04/17 4:55:40 PM
#90:


Thugstar posted...
So CNN then.

I mean both CNN and FoxNews are better sources than InfoWars which is the internet version of the tabloids you find in checkout lines
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Thugstar
10/05/17 10:52:56 PM
#91:


For the ones who didn't want to do research:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O_2O2cEOEU
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ImTheMacheteGuy
10/05/17 11:34:22 PM
#92:


Thugstar posted...
For the ones who didn't want to do research:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O_2O2cEOEU


Is it infowars?
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