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UnfairRepresent 09/18/17 4:43:50 PM #1: |
Former U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has asserted that it is possible the the Russian government's influence campaign during the 2016 presidential race could have compromised the legitimacy of U.S. President Donald Trump's election win.
On Sept. 18, Clinton stated that she believed it was possible that Russian meddling during the 2016 presidential race had undermined the legitimacy of election results. "No, I wouldn't rule it out," Clinton told NPR during an interview about her new campaign memoir, "What Happened." Clinton added that while she held suspicions that Trump had aided or abetted the Russian government's influence campaign, she did not believe that the election result could be scrapped for a do-over. "I don't know if there's any legal constitutional way to do that," Clinton said. "I think you can raise questions." Currently, there is a federal probe and several congressional investigations into whether associates of the Trump campaign allegedly colluded with Russian officials to subvert the 2016 election. On June 15, the president took to social media to blast the investigations as a coordinated witch hunt. "You are witnessing the single greatest WITCH HUNT in American political history -- led by some very bad and conflicted people!" Trump tweeted out. Clinton asserted during her interview that Trump's hostility toward the investigations into Russia's role during the election was suspicious. "Let me just put it this way, if I had lost the popular vote but won the electoral college and in my first day as president the intelligence community came to me and said, 'The Russians influenced the election,' I wouldn't never stood for it," Clinton continued. "Even though it might've advantaged me, I would've said 'We've got to get to the bottom of this.'" On Sept. 11, Clinton disclosed during an interview that she believed that there was collusion between the Trump campaign and Russian officials during the 2016 presidential race. "There certainly was communication and there certainly was an understanding of some sort," Clinton told USA Today. "Because there's no doubt in my mind that (Russian President Vladimir) Putin wanted me to lose and wanted Trump to win. And there's no doubt in my mind that there was a tangle of financial relationships between Trump and his operation with Russian money." The former Secretary of State added "And there's no doubt in my mind that the Trump campaign and other associates have worked really hard to hide their connections with Russians." On Sept. 14, Clinton asserted that the Russian government's influence campaign had a demonstrable impact on the election outcome. "This was a highly sophisticated influence operation," Clinton told CNN. "I believe it did affect people's votes. I think it cost me votes. ... No nation, particularly an adversary nation, can mess with our democracy." Full Article: http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/clinton-legitimacy-election-could-be-doubt She wouldn't be raising these questions if she won. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tryhaptaward 09/18/17 4:45:29 PM #2: |
"Why the fuck are we still talking about Hillary? She lost, get over it!!!"
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NadYobWoc 09/18/17 4:47:43 PM #3: |
I mean it's incredibly likely that Russia did meddle in our election to such a degree that it effected the outcome. That said, Hillary shouldn't be saying it. Makes her seem like sour grapes and undercuts the argument.
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darkjedilink 09/18/17 4:48:07 PM #4: |
Tryhaptaward posted...
"Why the fuck are we still talking about Hillary? She lost, get over it!!!" So much this. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gmanthebest 09/18/17 4:49:35 PM #5: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
"Let me just put it this way, if I had lost the popular vote but won the electoral college and in my first day as president the intelligence community came to me and said, 'The Russians influenced the election,' I wouldn't never stood for it," Clinton continued. "Even though it might've advantaged me, I would've said 'We've got to get to the bottom of this.'" Bull. Shit. --- What do I feel when I shoot an enemy? Recoil. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tmaster148 09/18/17 4:50:32 PM #6: |
NadYobWoc posted...
I mean it's incredibly likely that Russia did meddle in our election to such a degree that it effected the outcome. That said, Hillary shouldn't be saying it. Makes her seem like sour grapes and undercuts the argument. Although the meddling Russian likely did is not voter fraud, so her complaints of an illegitimate election has no grounds. Unless Russian straight up changed votes or added a bunch of fake votes, people being idiots and falling for fake news spread by the Russian just means we need to improve our news. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sexypwnstar 09/18/17 4:51:51 PM #7: |
Tmaster148 posted...
NadYobWoc posted...I mean it's incredibly likely that Russia did meddle in our election to such a degree that it effected the outcome. That said, Hillary shouldn't be saying it. Makes her seem like sour grapes and undercuts the argument. So what was the fake news? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 09/18/17 4:52:02 PM #8: |
darkjedilink posted...
Tryhaptaward posted..."Why the fuck are we still talking about Hillary? She lost, get over it!!!" In all due fairness to her, she's intentionally stirring the pot to promote her book. Welcome to Captialism. There's very little difference between Trump and Clinton's personalities beyond a small penis. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mr_MacPhisto 09/18/17 4:52:17 PM #9: |
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creativerealms 09/18/17 4:53:18 PM #10: |
So does Trump and he won so they agree on something.
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Tezlok 09/18/17 4:53:36 PM #11: |
so ironic that before election night people were saying Trump was going to not accept that he lost and dispute the results......
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Zeeak4444 09/18/17 4:54:56 PM #12: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
darkjedilink posted...Tryhaptaward posted..."Why the fuck are we still talking about Hillary? She lost, get over it!!!" True AF. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hollow_shrine 09/18/17 4:58:18 PM #13: |
Relevant passages from the cited article, which itself is collecting excerpts from interviews Hillary Clinton gave to NPR, USA Today, and CNN. Any emphases are mine.
On Sept. 18, Clinton stated that she believed it was possible that Russian meddling during the 2016 presidential race had undermined the legitimacy of election results. On Sept. 11, Clinton disclosed during an interview that she believed that there was collusion between the Trump campaign and Russian officials during the 2016 presidential race. On Sept. 14, Clinton asserted that the Russian government's influence campaign had a demonstrable impact on the election outcome. Frankly I think she's being pretty circumspect with her answers here. She's certainly not saying anything different from others who feel Russia had a significant role to play in the 2016 election, and that the Trump campaign may have been involved. It's certainly been proven that the Trump campaign was more than willing to accept foreign help in undermining the opposition's campaign. --- https://i.imgtc.com/zyQ3oRW.jpg 15 Transwomen of color have been murdered since 1/1/2017 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YellowSUV 09/18/17 5:00:13 PM #14: |
There is probably no chance the votes were rigged by ballot stuffing. However, there is a possibility that voters more likely to vote for Clinton were purged from voter rolls.
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mattnd2007 09/18/17 5:02:55 PM #16: |
Lol wow
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darkjedilink 09/18/17 5:07:23 PM #17: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
darkjedilink posted...Tryhaptaward posted..."Why the fuck are we still talking about Hillary? She lost, get over it!!!" Oh, I agree. As a Capitalist, I say more power to her. I was referring to the liberals on CE always saying that the election is over any time someone talks about Clinton's latest bout of nonsense. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Admiral 09/18/17 7:09:30 PM #18: |
Mr_MacPhisto posted...
https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/789573422716182529 The HillTrain keeps chugging downhill at maximum speed. --- - The Admiral ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RebelElite791 09/18/17 7:09:54 PM #19: |
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The Admiral 09/18/17 7:11:10 PM #20: |
RebelElite791 posted...
That's not even what she said. http://www.npr.org/2017/09/18/551217204/hillary-clinton-says-shes-optimistic-about-our-country-but-i-am-not-naive#legitimacy I want to get back to the question, would you completely rule out questioning the legitimacy of this election if we learn that the Russian interference in the election is even deeper than we know now? Sounds like that's exactly what she said. --- - The Admiral ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RebelElite791 09/18/17 7:11:42 PM #21: |
The Admiral posted...
RebelElite791 posted...That's not even what she said. "I wouldn't rule out questioning it if we find out more info" =/= "she claims the results may be illegitimate" --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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prince_leo 09/18/17 7:15:22 PM #22: |
but isn't it accepted that russia led an information campaign online that was very anti-clinton?
like, maybe calling it illegitimate isn't the fairest way to describe it, but with the reveal over all of those facebook accounts and the 4chan/reddit bots, she's not crazy --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SageHarpuia 09/18/17 7:16:02 PM #23: |
Is Obama going to tell her to stop whining too?
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Mal_Fet 09/18/17 7:17:44 PM #24: |
NadYobWoc posted...
I mean it's incredibly likely that Russia did meddle in our election to such a degree that it effected the outcome. No one's provided proof of that, soooo... As far as anyone can tell, their meddling amounted to a bunch of shitposts on facebook --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SageHarpuia 09/18/17 7:17:46 PM #25: |
prince_leo posted...
but isn't it accepted that russia led an information campaign online that was very anti-clinton? The same could be said about CNN, CBS, and MSNBC about Trump. It's hardly illegal. --- My name is Harpuia, one of the four Guardians of Master X and General of the Strong Air Battalion, The Rekku Army. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eston 09/18/17 7:20:34 PM #26: |
So someone asked her about it in an interview, and her answer was exactly what people have been saying since the Russia allegations first surfaced
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prince_leo 09/18/17 7:21:36 PM #27: |
SageHarpuia posted...
The same could be said about CNN, CBS, and MSNBC about Trump. It's hardly illegal. I think the difference is that those are American still, I'm more on the opinion that even if true it didn't force people to go out and vote one way and it didn't literally change the votes, even though I did vote for Clinton it's kind of eh just saying that I kinda get what she's saying --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anteaterking 09/18/17 7:21:47 PM #28: |
SageHarpuia posted...
The same could be said about CNN, CBS, and MSNBC about Trump. It's hardly illegal. Lol --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nomadic View 09/18/17 7:23:49 PM #29: |
gmanthebest posted...
UnfairRepresent posted..."Let me just put it this way, if I had lost the popular vote but won the electoral college and in my first day as president the intelligence community came to me and said, 'The Russians influenced the election,' I wouldn't never stood for it," Clinton continued. "Even though it might've advantaged me, I would've said 'We've got to get to the bottom of this.'" Exactly. She had no qualms about accepting debate questions. Why the hell would she be noble when even higher stakes are on the line? --- {}\\{}(o){}\\//{}//=\\{})){}(< \\//{}{{-{}//\\{} {}xxxxxxxx{};;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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assassinCrash 09/18/17 7:26:09 PM #30: |
I'm surprised Clington hasn't caught on
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UnfairRepresent 09/19/17 4:55:04 AM #31: |
Nomadic View posted...
lol --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scar the 1 09/19/17 5:00:10 AM #32: |
I applaud anyone who publicly says that Trump's victory was illegitimate, only for the reason that it makes POTUS so flustered he can't even see straight. And that's really funny.
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Suchomimus 09/20/17 5:27:39 PM #34: |
This woman is an embarrassment.
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ZMythos 09/20/17 5:32:48 PM #35: |
I wonder if Trump is betting on global warming so it can thaw his mouth off of that Russian cock.
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mustachedmystic 09/20/17 5:44:47 PM #36: |
Big Deal. Trump did the same, and he won.
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CW_McGraw 09/20/17 5:52:36 PM #37: |
This isn't a controversial point she's making. The integrity of our elections is so in doubt that Trump himself has established a committee to investigate them.
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Millennials 09/20/17 6:09:17 PM #38: |
darkjedilink posted...
I was referring to the liberals on CE always saying that the election is over any time someone talks about Clinton's latest bout of nonsense. Right, because there's absolutely no difference at all between An irrelevant sore loser hawking her crappy book and The president routinely using said irrelevant loser as a scapegoat in their never ending series of gaffes --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 09/20/17 6:15:19 PM #39: |
scar the 1 posted...
I applaud anyone who publicly says that Trump's victory was illegitimate, only for the reason that it makes POTUS so flustered he can't even see straight. And that's really funny. Agreed. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 09/21/17 2:13:16 AM #40: |
darkjedilink posted...
scar the 1 posted...I applaud anyone who publicly says that Trump's victory was illegitimate, only for the reason that it makes POTUS so flustered he can't even see straight. And that's really funny. How petty of you --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PonyLivesMatter 09/21/17 2:21:52 AM #41: |
Wow straight to blaming Russia, what an intolerable lady
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Syntheticon 09/21/17 2:59:50 AM #42: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
She wouldn't be raising these questions if she won. Well if she'd won after the Russians fiddled with the election and boosted Drumpf's number that'd be even more impressive on her part and there'd be no reason to question it. --- Mod me? You don't even know me! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lilJoe457 09/21/17 3:08:24 AM #43: |
Can this woman go away. As much as people don't want Trump as president I bet nobody wants her. Jesus
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Guerrilla Soldier 09/21/17 3:23:05 AM #44: |
i like how they never go into detail of how
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UnfairRepresent 09/21/17 5:08:36 AM #45: |
Guerrilla Soldier posted...
i like how they never go into detail of how You have to buy her book for that sily --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ToPoPO 09/22/17 9:24:01 PM #46: |
But Hillary
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UnfairRepresent 09/23/17 9:46:56 PM #47: |
ToPoPO posted...
But Hillary Doesn't work when the topic is solely about her --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 09/24/17 2:52:42 PM #49: |
^ I saw that lol
You can't complain about guys "Still bringing her up" when she is on global TV and we are just pointing out what she is saying --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ImTheMacheteGuy 09/24/17 2:54:02 PM #50: |
she's probably right but she should just shut the fuck up about it already
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LightDarkFrexed 09/24/17 2:54:40 PM #51: |
The General Election results may be illegitimate but the DNC was unbaised throughout the Primaries
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BlueBoy675 09/24/17 2:55:22 PM #52: |
gmanthebest posted...
UnfairRepresent posted..."Let me just put it this way, if I had lost the popular vote but won the electoral college and in my first day as president the intelligence community came to me and said, 'The Russians influenced the election,' I wouldn't never stood for it," Clinton continued. "Even though it might've advantaged me, I would've said 'We've got to get to the bottom of this.'" --- Hope rides alone ... Copied to Clipboard!
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