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C7D
09/16/17 1:58:34 PM
#265:


l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 posted...
Delirious_Beard posted...
C7D posted...
Nepsy posted...
Normal people would just take their business somewhere else.


These are not normal people. They want to force their lifestyle choices down the throats of any who oppose. They elect leaders who use their lifestyle choices as litmus tests for appointing those who interpret the law further cementing their stand. They cry bigot and attempt to intimidate those who disagree with them. They use their status as a weapon. They don't want you to just bake their cake. They want to make you like it.


really frightening that we have people like this on CE

*on Earth


It's more frightening that people think they can use the court rooms to make their rights trump the rights of others. Somehow I think you would be up in arms if the shoe were on the other foot. For example, I don't think a gay screen printing shop owner would print t-shirts against a gay rights parade. It would be unconscionable for them to do so. By the same token, it's unconscionable for a gay couple to ask a Christian baker to make them a wedding cake.
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Ruvan22
09/16/17 2:08:57 PM
#266:


C7D posted...
l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 posted...
Delirious_Beard posted...
C7D posted...
Nepsy posted...
Normal people would just take their business somewhere else.


These are not normal people. They want to force their lifestyle choices down the throats of any who oppose. They elect leaders who use their lifestyle choices as litmus tests for appointing those who interpret the law further cementing their stand. They cry bigot and attempt to intimidate those who disagree with them. They use their status as a weapon. They don't want you to just bake their cake. They want to make you like it.


really frightening that we have people like this on CE

*on Earth


It's more frightening that people think they can use the court rooms to make their rights trump the rights of others. Somehow I think you would be up in arms if the shoe were on the other foot. For example, I don't think a gay screen printing shop owner would print t-shirts against a gay rights parade. It would be unconscionable for them to do so. By the same token, it's unconscionable for a gay couple to ask a Christian baker to make them a wedding cake.


I take it the Christian baker would also not make cakes for Muslim/Hindu/Zoraster couples? Like as each couple comes in, they'd ask their denomination? And as some Christian churches/sects believe interracial marriage "violates God's law in the bible", you believe they shouldn't bake a cake for them?
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C7D
09/16/17 2:44:34 PM
#267:


Ruvan22 posted...
C7D posted...
l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 posted...
Delirious_Beard posted...
C7D posted...
Nepsy posted...
Normal people would just take their business somewhere else.


These are not normal people. They want to force their lifestyle choices down the throats of any who oppose. They elect leaders who use their lifestyle choices as litmus tests for appointing those who interpret the law further cementing their stand. They cry bigot and attempt to intimidate those who disagree with them. They use their status as a weapon. They don't want you to just bake their cake. They want to make you like it.


really frightening that we have people like this on CE

*on Earth


It's more frightening that people think they can use the court rooms to make their rights trump the rights of others. Somehow I think you would be up in arms if the shoe were on the other foot. For example, I don't think a gay screen printing shop owner would print t-shirts against a gay rights parade. It would be unconscionable for them to do so. By the same token, it's unconscionable for a gay couple to ask a Christian baker to make them a wedding cake.


I take it the Christian baker would also not make cakes for Muslim/Hindu/Zoraster couples? Like as each couple comes in, they'd ask their denomination? And as some Christian churches/sects believe interracial marriage "violates God's law in the bible", you believe they shouldn't bake a cake for them?


Straw man fallacy. The Bible doesn't actually say any of those things, but Romans 1:26-27 is pretty clear.
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Ruvan22
09/16/17 2:53:37 PM
#268:


C7D posted...
Ruvan22 posted...
C7D posted...
l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 posted...
Delirious_Beard posted...
C7D posted...
Nepsy posted...
Normal people would just take their business somewhere else.


These are not normal people. They want to force their lifestyle choices down the throats of any who oppose. They elect leaders who use their lifestyle choices as litmus tests for appointing those who interpret the law further cementing their stand. They cry bigot and attempt to intimidate those who disagree with them. They use their status as a weapon. They don't want you to just bake their cake. They want to make you like it.


really frightening that we have people like this on CE

*on Earth


It's more frightening that people think they can use the court rooms to make their rights trump the rights of others. Somehow I think you would be up in arms if the shoe were on the other foot. For example, I don't think a gay screen printing shop owner would print t-shirts against a gay rights parade. It would be unconscionable for them to do so. By the same token, it's unconscionable for a gay couple to ask a Christian baker to make them a wedding cake.


I take it the Christian baker would also not make cakes for Muslim/Hindu/Zoraster couples? Like as each couple comes in, they'd ask their denomination? And as some Christian churches/sects believe interracial marriage "violates God's law in the bible", you believe they shouldn't bake a cake for them?


Straw man fallacy. The Bible doesn't actually say any of those things, but Romans 1:26-27 is pretty clear.

The bible doesn't say "Thou shall not worship any other gods"? You may need to reread it buddy :)
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C7D
09/16/17 3:03:08 PM
#269:


Ruvan22 posted...

The bible doesn't say "Thou shall not worship any other gods"? You may need to reread it buddy :)


Hint: two heterosexual nonbelievers getting married are not committing sexually immoral sins when they are married. Participating in their wedding is not a sin.
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Ruvan22
09/16/17 3:24:40 PM
#270:


Yes, C7D posted...
Ruvan22 posted...

The bible doesn't say "Thou shall not worship any other gods"? You may need to reread it buddy :)


Hint: two heterosexual nonbelievers getting married are not committing sexually immoral sins when they are married. Participating in their wedding is not a sin.


Better Hint: When you participate in their wedding, you recognize their false gods, and thus break one of the ten commandments.
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Squidkids
09/16/17 3:35:18 PM
#271:


@Lorenzo_2003 posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Should we oblige a muslim caterer to provide service to a Beer & Bacon Fest?

If you think the two are similar you're wrong


Why would discrimination be Ok for the Muslims to do, but not Ok for Christians to do?

First off, as I said MEANY TIMES!!! it is NOT .. REPEAT!@!! NOT ok to judge people. THIS MEANS THE FAITH SAYS IT IS WRONG to not to serve people because of a personal belief that you may disagree with, and currently there is interruption conflicts if being gay is considered a sin. Also the other problem is, the business is not labeled "CHRISTIAN WEDDING CAKES" , it is wedding cakes where the owners are christian, big effing difference.

for muslims, I do not know the religion so no idea, but as far as USA discriminatory laws go, they cant. ALSO when I seen this tested (video of crowder) the muslims was not rejecting him at first, they where just rejecting to do messages on the cake that was pushing the line, I believe that is fine as far as laws go.
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UnfairRepresent
09/16/17 6:09:32 PM
#272:


l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 posted...
If a bakery claims to make wedding cakes, it better make those fuckin' cakes.


This is a dumb argument. You're saying "Everyone should ignore all context." which is flawed reasoning
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--kresnik--
09/16/17 6:13:41 PM
#273:


I can't believe yall are still going on about this. Let whoever get married and don't make anybody do anything they don't want to. Problem solved.
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