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Callixtus 09/08/17 12:42:03 AM #1:	80/80 This afternoon, during a confirmation hearing for 7th Circuit Court of Appeals nominee Amy Coney Barrett, Democratic senator Dianne Feinstein attacked the nominee for her Roman Catholic faith. Barrett is a law professor at the University of Notre Dame who has written about the role of religion in public life and delivered academic lectures to Christian legal groups. Drawing on some of these materials, Feinstein launched a thinly veiled attack on Barrett’s Catholic faith, asserting that her religious views will prevent her from judging fairly. “When you read your speeches, the conclusion one draws is that the dogma lives loudly within you,” Feinstein said. “And that’s of concern when you come to big issues that large numbers of people have fought for for years in this country.” Feinstein is clearly hinting here at the Supreme Court decision in Roe v. Wade, a ruling that Feinstein supports so vociferously that she has even called it a “super-precedent.” Here’s the video footage of Feinstein’s comment: Feinstein issued this highly unnecessary and evidently anti-Catholic comment in spite of the fact that Barrett said earlier in the hearing, “It is never appropriate for a judge to apply their personal convictions whether it derives from faith or personal conviction.” Other Democratic senators took issue with Barrett over her faith as well. Senate minority whip Dick Durbin criticized Barrett’s use of the term “orthodox Catholic,” insisting that it unfairly maligns Catholics who do not hold certain positions about abortion or the death penalty. (Durbin himself is a Catholic who abandoned his previous pro-life position.) “Do you consider yourself an orthodox Catholic?” he later asked Barrett point blank. And Hawaii senator Mazie Hirono snarked, “I think your article is very plain in your perspective about the role of religion for judges, and particularly with regard to Catholic judges.” These criticisms echo a report from the left-wing Alliance for Justice, which alleged that as a judge Barrett “would put her personal beliefs ahead of the law.” This and other claims contained in the report are completely unsubstantiated, much like the charge levied by Feinstein." Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/451137/dianne-feinstein-amy-coney-barrett-senator-attacks-catholic-judicial-nominee --- Liberal Arrogance:Academics are overwhelmingly liberal because the nature of the job, seeking information for the good of humanity, self selects liberals--COVxy <cite>Callixtus posted [p:886226939] in Sorry CHRI... [t:75752991]...</cite> <quote>80/80 <quote>This afternoon, during a confirmation hearing for 7th Circuit Court of Appeals nominee Amy Coney Barrett, Democratic senator Dianne Feinstein attacked the nominee for her Roman Catholic faith. Barrett is a law professor at the University of Notre Dame who has written about the role of religion in public life and delivered academic lectures to Christian legal groups. Drawing on some of these materials, Feinstein launched a thinly veiled attack on Barrett’s Catholic faith, asserting that her religious views will prevent her from judging fairly. “When you read your speeches, the conclusion one draws is that the dogma lives loudly within you,” Feinstein said. “And that’s of concern when you come to big issues that large numbers of people have fought for for years in this country.” Feinstein is clearly hinting here at the Supreme Court decision in Roe v. Wade, a ruling that Feinstein supports so vociferously that she has even called it a “super-precedent.” Here’s the video footage of Feinstein’s comment: Feinstein issued this highly unnecessary and evidently anti-Catholic comment in spite of the fact that Barrett said earlier in the hearing, “It is never appropriate for a judge to apply their personal convictions whether it derives from faith or personal conviction.” Other Democratic senators took issue with Barrett over her faith as well. Senate minority whip Dick Durbin criticized Barrett’s use of the term “orthodox Catholic,” insisting that it unfairly maligns Catholics who do not hold certain positions about abortion or the death penalty. (Durbin himself is a Catholic who abandoned his previous pro-life position.) “Do you consider yourself an orthodox Catholic?” he later asked Barrett point blank. And Hawaii senator Mazie Hirono snarked, “I think your article is very plain in your perspective about the role of religion for judges, and particularly with regard to Catholic judges.” These criticisms echo a report from the left-wing Alliance for Justice, which alleged that as a judge Barrett “would put her personal beliefs ahead of the law.” This and other claims contained in the report are completely unsubstantiated, much like the charge levied by Feinstein."</quote> Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/451137/dianne-feinstein-amy-coney-barrett-senator-attacks-catholic-judicial-nominee</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 09/08/17 12:45:17 AM #2:	Damn right. If you wanna be in government, leave your religion at the door. --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 http://i.imgur.com/mPvcy.png <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:886227079] in Sorry CHRI... [t:75752991]...</cite> <quote>Damn right. If you wanna be in government, leave your religion at the door.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Callixtus 09/08/17 12:46:33 AM #3:	Doom_Art posted... Damn right. If you wanna be in government, leave your religion at the door. And if they asked a Jew how being a Jew would affect their job, you'd be perfectly fine with that? --- Liberal Arrogance:Academics are overwhelmingly liberal because the nature of the job, seeking information for the good of humanity, self selects liberals--COVxy <cite>Callixtus posted [p:886227143] in Sorry CHRI... [t:75752991]...</cite> <quote><cite>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote>Damn right. If you wanna be in government, leave your religion at the door.</quote> And if they asked a Jew how being a Jew would affect their job, you'd be perfectly fine with that?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 09/08/17 12:48:22 AM #4:	If practicing Judaism could significantly affect their job performance, then that is absolutely a valid question. --- PSN: kazukifafner <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:886227214] in Sorry CHRI... [t:75752991]...</cite> <quote>If practicing Judaism could significantly affect their job performance, then that is absolutely a valid question.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Callixtus 09/08/17 12:51:46 AM #5:	Dragonblade01 posted... If practicing Judaism could significantly affect their job performance, then that is absolutely a valid question. Where is the evidence that being a Catholic could affect her job performance, and why is that a valid question to ask? We have federal laws banning discrimination in hiring on the basis of religion or creed btw. --- Liberal Arrogance:Academics are overwhelmingly liberal because the nature of the job, seeking information for the good of humanity, self selects liberals--COVxy <cite>Callixtus posted [p:886227366] in Sorry CHRI... [t:75752991]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>If practicing Judaism could significantly affect their job performance, then that is absolutely a valid question.</quote> Where is the evidence that being a Catholic could affect her job performance, and why is that a valid question to ask? We have federal laws banning discrimination in hiring on the basis of religion or creed btw.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordRazziel 09/08/17 12:52:57 AM #6:	The article says it is because of the things she says. Not just the fact that she is Christian. --- http://i.imgur.com/8pzUM.gif http://i.imgur.com/Oh1iujg.gif The only bad part about flying is having to come back down to the f***in' world ~Rat <cite>LordRazziel posted [p:886227413] in Sorry CHRI... [t:75752991]...</cite> <quote>The article says it is because of the things she says. Not just the fact that she is Christian.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 09/08/17 12:54:16 AM #7:	Callixtus posted... Where is the evidence that being a Catholic could affect her job performance LordRazziel posted... The article says it is because of the things she says. Not just the fact that she is Christian. A judge letting their religion influence their interpretation of the government and the law is a pretty big thing --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 http://i.imgur.com/mPvcy.png <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:886227472] in Sorry CHRI... [t:75752991]...</cite> <quote><cite>Callixtus posted...</cite> <quote>Where is the evidence that being a Catholic could affect her job performance</quote> <cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote>The article says it is because of the things she says. Not just the fact that she is Christian.</quote> A judge letting their religion influence their interpretation of the government and the law is a pretty big thing</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Callixtus 09/08/17 12:54:43 AM #8:	LordRazziel posted... The article says it is because of the things she says. Not just the fact that she is Christian. Feinstein literally mentioned the issue was because she was an adherent to Catholic teachings. "the dogma lives loudly within you" --- Liberal Arrogance:Academics are overwhelmingly liberal because the nature of the job, seeking information for the good of humanity, self selects liberals--COVxy <cite>Callixtus posted [p:886227490] in Sorry CHRI... [t:75752991]...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote>The article says it is because of the things she says. Not just the fact that she is Christian.</quote> Feinstein literally mentioned the issue was because she was an adherent to Catholic teachings. "the dogma lives loudly within you"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 09/08/17 12:55:48 AM #9:	I'm not saying being of a religion must necessarily influence your ability to perform a job. I'm saying that if it does, then employers should be allowed to bring it up. And ultimately, regardless of whether or not religion is the source of the particular problem, the actual reason behind not hiring someone wouldn't be because they were of a certain religion, but because their employer couldn't be confident that they would be able to do their job. It may seem like a trivial distinction, but it's an extremely important one. --- PSN: kazukifafner <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:886227545] in Sorry CHRI... [t:75752991]...</cite> <quote>I'm not saying being of a religion must necessarily influence your ability to perform a job. I'm saying that if it does, then employers should be allowed to bring it up. And ultimately, regardless of whether or not religion is the source of the particular problem, the actual reason behind not hiring someone wouldn't be because they were of a certain religion, but because their employer couldn't be confident that they would be able to do their job. It may seem like a trivial distinction, but it's an extremely important one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TradPaladin01 09/08/17 12:56:03 AM #10:	"Republicans are Islamophobic" "Practicing Cristians shouldn't be allowed to hold public office" WTF, Democrats? <cite>TradPaladin01 posted [p:886227559] in Sorry CHRI... [t:75752991]...</cite> <quote>"Republicans are Islamophobic" "Practicing Cristians shouldn't be allowed to hold public office" WTF, Democrats?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Callixtus 09/08/17 12:56:15 AM #11:	Doom_Art posted... Callixtus posted... Where is the evidence that being a Catholic could affect her job performance LordRazziel posted... The article says it is because of the things she says. Not just the fact that she is Christian. A judge letting their religion influence their interpretation of the government and the law is a pretty big thing There's no evidence that her Christian faith would influence her interpretation of the law anymore than any one else's moral or ideological beliefs would. Also the constitution bans religious tests, and that sort of questioning might qualify as one. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Religious_Test_Clause --- Liberal Arrogance:Academics are overwhelmingly liberal because the nature of the job, seeking information for the good of humanity, self selects liberals--COVxy <cite>Callixtus posted [p:886227572] in Sorry CHRI... [t:75752991]...</cite> <quote><cite>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Callixtus posted...</cite> <quote>Where is the evidence that being a Catholic could affect her job performance</quote> <cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote>The article says it is because of the things she says. Not just the fact that she is Christian.</quote> A judge letting their religion influence their interpretation of the government and the law is a pretty big thing</quote> There's no evidence that her Christian faith would influence her interpretation of the law anymore than any one else's moral or ideological beliefs would. Also the constitution bans religious tests, and that sort of questioning might qualify as one. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Religious_Test_Clause</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TradPaladin01 09/08/17 12:57:02 AM #12:	Dragonblade01 posted... I'm not saying being of a religion must necessarily influence your ability to perform a job. I'm saying that if it does, then employers should be allowed to bring it up. And ultimately, regardless of whether or not religion is the source of the particular problem, the actual reason behind not hiring someone wouldn't be because they were of a certain religion, but because their employer couldn't be confident that they would be able to do their job. It may seem like a trivial distinction, but it's an extremely important one. Fair point, but if Muslims are allowed to sue employers who fire them for not delivering beer or pork and win, then Christians better be allowed to be judges, too. <cite>TradPaladin01 posted [p:886227609] in Sorry CHRI... [t:75752991]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm not saying being of a religion must necessarily influence your ability to perform a job. I'm saying that if it does, then employers should be allowed to bring it up. And ultimately, regardless of whether or not religion is the source of the particular problem, the actual reason behind not hiring someone wouldn't be because they were of a certain religion, but because their employer couldn't be confident that they would be able to do their job. It may seem like a trivial distinction, but it's an extremely important one.</quote> Fair point, but if Muslims are allowed to sue employers who fire them for not delivering beer or pork and win, then Christians better be allowed to be judges, too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 09/08/17 12:57:37 AM #13:	TradPaladin01 posted... "Republicans are Islamophobic" "Practicing Cristians shouldn't be allowed to hold public office" WTF, Democrats? The white supremacist returns to CE after a long absence! --- http://i.imgur.com/bbRWLI8.gif https://i.imgur.com/A0BErSV.jpg <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:886227639] in Sorry CHRI... [t:75752991]...</cite> <quote><cite>TradPaladin01 posted...</cite> <quote>"Republicans are Islamophobic" "Practicing Cristians shouldn't be allowed to hold public office" WTF, Democrats?</quote> The white supremacist returns to CE after a long absence!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ArchiePeck 09/08/17 12:58:03 AM #14:	Doom_Art posted... Damn right. If you wanna be in government, leave your religion at the door. <cite>ArchiePeck posted [p:886227652] in Sorry CHRI... [t:75752991]...</cite> <quote><cite>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote>Damn right. If you wanna be in government, leave your religion at the door.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TradPaladin01 09/08/17 12:58:29 AM #15:	Bio1590 posted... TradPaladin01 posted... "Republicans are Islamophobic" "Practicing Cristians shouldn't be allowed to hold public office" WTF, Democrats? The white supremacist returns to CE after a long absence! "Everyone I disagree with is a white bogeyman!" <cite>TradPaladin01 posted [p:886227669] in Sorry CHRI... [t:75752991]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TradPaladin01 posted...</cite> <quote>"Republicans are Islamophobic" "Practicing Cristians shouldn't be allowed to hold public office" WTF, Democrats?</quote> The white supremacist returns to CE after a long absence!</quote> "Everyone I disagree with is a white bogeyman!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 09/08/17 1:00:03 AM #16:	TradPaladin01 posted... Dragonblade01 posted... I'm not saying being of a religion must necessarily influence your ability to perform a job. I'm saying that if it does, then employers should be allowed to bring it up. And ultimately, regardless of whether or not religion is the source of the particular problem, the actual reason behind not hiring someone wouldn't be because they were of a certain religion, but because their employer couldn't be confident that they would be able to do their job. It may seem like a trivial distinction, but it's an extremely important one. Fair point, but if Muslims are allowed to sue employers who fire them for not delivering beer or pork and win, then Christians better be allowed to be judges, too. I don't think the employers were at fault in those cases. Likewise, I'm not even saying that I think practicing religious members shouldn't be able to hold office. My point is that I'm for employers being able to pursue whatever may impact an employee's ability to perform their job. Now, if the person who didn't get the job thinks they would have been perfectly capable of doing said job, they can contest it in court. That's what the system is for and how it should be. --- PSN: kazukifafner <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:886227732] in Sorry CHRI... [t:75752991]...</cite> <quote><cite>TradPaladin01 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm not saying being of a religion must necessarily influence your ability to perform a job. I'm saying that if it does, then employers should be allowed to bring it up. And ultimately, regardless of whether or not religion is the source of the particular problem, the actual reason behind not hiring someone wouldn't be because they were of a certain religion, but because their employer couldn't be confident that they would be able to do their job. It may seem like a trivial distinction, but it's an extremely important one.</quote> Fair point, but if Muslims are allowed to sue employers who fire them for not delivering beer or pork and win, then Christians better be allowed to be judges, too.</quote> I don't think the employers were at fault in those cases. Likewise, I'm not even saying that I think practicing religious members shouldn't be able to hold office. My point is that I'm for employers being able to pursue whatever may impact an employee's ability to perform their job. Now, if the person who didn't get the job thinks they would have been perfectly capable of doing said job, they can contest it in court. That's what the system is for and how it should be.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 09/08/17 1:00:29 AM #17:	TradPaladin01 posted... "Republicans are Islamophobic" "Practicing Cristians shouldn't be allowed to hold public office" WTF, Democrats? @TradPaladin01 I'll wait to hear you ask the republicans the same question when it's "practicing muslims shouldn't be allowed to hold public office" --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:886227748] in Sorry CHRI... [t:75752991]...</cite> <quote><cite>TradPaladin01 posted...</cite> <quote>"Republicans are Islamophobic" "Practicing Cristians shouldn't be allowed to hold public office" WTF, Democrats?</quote> @TradPaladin01 I'll wait to hear you ask the republicans the same question when it's "practicing muslims shouldn't be allowed to hold public office"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightningAce11 09/08/17 1:01:47 AM #18:	Bio1590 posted... TradPaladin01 posted... "Republicans are Islamophobic" "Practicing Cristians shouldn't be allowed to hold public office" WTF, Democrats? The white supremacist returns to CE after a long absence! I thought it was proudclad. --- "I'm an atheist too but still believe in hell. That's where you're headed pal." - Mr_Karate_II <cite>LightningAce11 posted [p:886227806] in Sorry CHRI... [t:75752991]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TradPaladin01 posted...</cite> <quote>"Republicans are Islamophobic" "Practicing Cristians shouldn't be allowed to hold public office" WTF, Democrats?</quote> The white supremacist returns to CE after a long absence!</quote> I thought it was proudclad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinksLiege 09/08/17 1:05:01 AM #19:	Callixtus posted... Where is the evidence that being a Catholic could affect her job performance, and why is that a valid question to ask? Not pertaining to her specifically, but there are many examples out there of people pushing legislation fueled by their beliefs. We have federal laws banning discrimination in hiring on the basis of religion or creed btw. As well as the establishment of religion. Every time someone in office pushes something with their religious beliefs in mind, they're violating that. --- This is LinksLiege's signature. It is fantastic. <cite>LinksLiege posted [p:886227925] in Sorry CHRI... [t:75752991]...</cite> <quote><cite>Callixtus posted...</cite> <quote>Where is the evidence that being a Catholic could affect her job performance, and why is that a valid question to ask?</quote> Not pertaining to her specifically, but there are many examples out there of people pushing legislation fueled by their beliefs. <quote>We have federal laws banning discrimination in hiring on the basis of religion or creed btw.</quote> As well as the establishment of religion. Every time someone in office pushes something with their religious beliefs in mind, they're violating that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordRazziel 09/08/17 1:05:57 AM #20:	I would want to se what comments Feinstein was referencing. If she is saying crazy stuff, there may be reason for concern. If a Muslim was saying he thought America should insult Sharia law, but would not let that affect his role, would you be fine with that. --- http://i.imgur.com/8pzUM.gif http://i.imgur.com/Oh1iujg.gif The only bad part about flying is having to come back down to the f***in' world ~Rat <cite>LordRazziel posted [p:886227968] in Sorry CHRI... [t:75752991]...</cite> <quote>I would want to se what comments Feinstein was referencing. If she is saying crazy stuff, there may be reason for concern. If a Muslim was saying he thought America should insult Sharia law, but would not let that affect his role, would you be fine with that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Callixtus 09/08/17 1:09:30 AM #21:	LinksLiege posted... Callixtus posted... Where is the evidence that being a Catholic could affect her job performance, and why is that a valid question to ask? Not pertaining to her specifically, but there are many examples out there of people pushing legislation fueled by their beliefs. We have federal laws banning discrimination in hiring on the basis of religion or creed btw. As well as the establishment of religion. Every time someone in office pushes something with their religious beliefs in mind, they're violating that. Everyone pushes legislation fueled by their beliefs. So I don't see what difference it makes if a religious person is doing it vs an SJW or demagogue. No, pushing legislation with religious beliefs in mind, is not violating the establishment clause at all. If your religious beliefs lead you to believe that the death penalty is wrong, and therefore you introduce legislation banning the death penalty you aren't violating the constitution. Are you serious? --- Liberal Arrogance:Academics are overwhelmingly liberal because the nature of the job, seeking information for the good of humanity, self selects liberals--COVxy <cite>Callixtus posted [p:886228098] in Sorry CHRI... [t:75752991]...</cite> <quote><cite>LinksLiege posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Callixtus posted...</cite> <quote>Where is the evidence that being a Catholic could affect her job performance, and why is that a valid question to ask?</quote> Not pertaining to her specifically, but there are many examples out there of people pushing legislation fueled by their beliefs. <quote>We have federal laws banning discrimination in hiring on the basis of religion or creed btw.</quote> As well as the establishment of religion. Every time someone in office pushes something with their religious beliefs in mind, they're violating that.</quote> Everyone pushes legislation fueled by their beliefs. So I don't see what difference it makes if a religious person is doing it vs an SJW or demagogue. No, pushing legislation with religious beliefs in mind, is not violating the establishment clause at all. If your religious beliefs lead you to believe that the death penalty is wrong, and therefore you introduce legislation banning the death penalty you aren't violating the constitution. Are you serious?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Deadpool 09/08/17 1:11:26 AM #22:	Callixtus posted... Where is the evidence that being a Catholic could affect her job performance, and why is that a valid question to ask? Because she wrote this: http://lawdigitalcommons.bc.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1105&context=lsfp There is a shit ton of Christian judges that get confirmed. This one seems to care about her religion more than she cares about her job. --- We are living in a world today where lemonade is made from artificial flavors and furniture polish is made from real lemons. <cite>The Deadpool posted [p:886228170] in Sorry CHRI... [t:75752991]...</cite> <quote><cite>Callixtus posted...</cite> <quote>Where is the evidence that being a Catholic could affect her job performance, and why is that a valid question to ask?</quote> Because she wrote this: http://lawdigitalcommons.bc.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1105&context=lsfp There is a shit ton of Christian judges that get confirmed. This one seems to care about her religion more than she cares about her job.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Callixtus 09/08/17 1:12:37 AM #23:	The Deadpool posted... Callixtus posted... Where is the evidence that being a Catholic could affect her job performance, and why is that a valid question to ask? Because she wrote this: http://lawdigitalcommons.bc.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1105&context=lsfp There is a shit ton of Christian judges that get confirmed. This one seems to care about her religion more than she cares about her job. Every religious person cares more about their beliefs than their job. Most people with any sort of moral code probably do as well. Is this surprising to you? --- Liberal Arrogance:Academics are overwhelmingly liberal because the nature of the job, seeking information for the good of humanity, self selects liberals--COVxy <cite>Callixtus posted [p:886228210] in Sorry CHRI... [t:75752991]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Deadpool posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Callixtus posted...</cite> <quote>Where is the evidence that being a Catholic could affect her job performance, and why is that a valid question to ask?</quote> Because she wrote this: http://lawdigitalcommons.bc.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1105&context=lsfp There is a shit ton of Christian judges that get confirmed. This one seems to care about her religion more than she cares about her job.</quote> Every religious person cares more about their beliefs than their job. Most people with any sort of moral code probably do as well. Is this surprising to you?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 09/08/17 1:13:13 AM #24:	With regard to religion, what's unacceptable is if they pass legislation which favors and/or promotes said religion. --- PSN: kazukifafner <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:886228230] in Sorry CHRI... [t:75752991]...</cite> <quote>With regard to religion, what's unacceptable is if they pass legislation which favors and/or promotes said religion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Callixtus 09/08/17 1:14:53 AM #25:	Dragonblade01 posted... With regard to religion, what's unacceptable is if they pass legislation which favors and/or promotes said religion. There is no evidence that this nominee would have done anything like that, and was most likely being interrogated because of her opposition to abortion. --- Liberal Arrogance:Academics are overwhelmingly liberal because the nature of the job, seeking information for the good of humanity, self selects liberals--COVxy <cite>Callixtus posted [p:886228293] in Sorry CHRI... [t:75752991]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>With regard to religion, what's unacceptable is if they pass legislation which favors and/or promotes said religion.</quote> There is no evidence that this nominee would have done anything like that, and was most likely being interrogated because of her opposition to abortion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 09/08/17 1:15:44 AM #26:	Of course a religious person's morality is going to be influenced by their religion. Trying to block someone on religious grounds is more or less saying, "They shouldn't have this position because they disagree with me on one or more key issues." The notion of a free thinker is one of the most underhanded, inane concepts available. Religious folks are bound by religious texts and skeptics have clarity of thought. Bull SHIT. We're all influenced by our personal experience, our adherence to or rejection of prevailing notion, our group identifications, and so forth. Saying that somebody is unqualified for a position because their faith is little different from saying that someone is unqualified because of their point of origin. And, yeah, I'm sure that underhanded trick has been attempted a time or two in the history of politics. <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:886228328] in Sorry CHRI... [t:75752991]...</cite> <quote>Of course a religious person's morality is going to be influenced by their religion. Trying to block someone on religious grounds is more or less saying, "They shouldn't have this position because they disagree with me on one or more key issues." The notion of a free thinker is one of the most underhanded, inane concepts available. Religious folks are bound by religious texts and skeptics have clarity of thought. Bull SHIT. We're all influenced by our personal experience, our adherence to or rejection of prevailing notion, our group identifications, and so forth. Saying that somebody is unqualified for a position because their faith is little different from saying that someone is unqualified because of their point of origin. And, yeah, I'm sure that underhanded trick has been attempted a time or two in the history of politics.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TradPaladin01 09/08/17 1:18:51 AM #27:	Zeeak4444 posted... TradPaladin01 posted... "Republicans are Islamophobic" "Practicing Cristians shouldn't be allowed to hold public office" WTF, Democrats? @TradPaladin01 I'll wait to hear you ask the republicans the same question when it's "practicing muslims shouldn't be allowed to hold public office" Who the fuck says that? Keith Ellison is already a congresscritter. LinksLiege posted... Callixtus posted... Where is the evidence that being a Catholic could affect her job performance, and why is that a valid question to ask? Not pertaining to her specifically, but there are many examples out there of people pushing legislation fueled by their beliefs. We have federal laws banning discrimination in hiring on the basis of religion or creed btw. As well as the establishment of religion. Every time someone in office pushes something with their religious beliefs in mind, they're violating that. How come Roe v. Wade didn't violate the establishment of religion clause if we consider Feminism as a religion? It's not like the Constitution actually mentions abortion anywhere, or the founding fathers intended for that to be a constitutional right. The leftists created a new right out of thin air and called it a constitutional right because it was a part of their agenda. The Deadpool posted... Callixtus posted... Where is the evidence that being a Catholic could affect her job performance, and why is that a valid question to ask? Because she wrote this: http://lawdigitalcommons.bc.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1105&context=lsfp There is a shit ton of Christian judges that get confirmed. This one seems to care about her religion more than she cares about her job. What part of this do you think makes her legally ineligible to be a judge? <cite>TradPaladin01 posted [p:886228452] in Sorry CHRI... [t:75752991]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TradPaladin01 posted...</cite> <quote>"Republicans are Islamophobic" "Practicing Cristians shouldn't be allowed to hold public office" WTF, Democrats?</quote> @TradPaladin01 I'll wait to hear you ask the republicans the same question when it's "practicing muslims shouldn't be allowed to hold public office"</quote> Who the fuck says that? Keith Ellison is already a congresscritter. <cite>LinksLiege posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Callixtus posted...</cite> <quote>Where is the evidence that being a Catholic could affect her job performance, and why is that a valid question to ask?</quote> Not pertaining to her specifically, but there are many examples out there of people pushing legislation fueled by their beliefs. <quote>We have federal laws banning discrimination in hiring on the basis of religion or creed btw.</quote> As well as the establishment of religion. Every time someone in office pushes something with their religious beliefs in mind, they're violating that.</quote> How come Roe v. Wade didn't violate the establishment of religion clause if we consider Feminism as a religion? It's not like the Constitution actually mentions abortion anywhere, or the founding fathers intended for that to be a constitutional right. The leftists created a new right out of thin air and called it a constitutional right because it was a part of their agenda. <cite>The Deadpool posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Callixtus posted...</cite> <quote>Where is the evidence that being a Catholic could affect her job performance, and why is that a valid question to ask?</quote> Because she wrote this: http://lawdigitalcommons.bc.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1105&context=lsfp There is a shit ton of Christian judges that get confirmed. This one seems to care about her religion more than she cares about her job.</quote> What part of this do you think makes her legally ineligible to be a judge?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 09/08/17 1:20:38 AM #28:	I disagree. I've seen plenty of judges rule completely against their personal belief. What you both said is outright false. We need to get more judges like the ones I'm refering to. Not more judges who want to push their agenda. You both are way too biased to make an appeal to emotions and expect it to be taken seriously. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:886228509] in Sorry CHRI... [t:75752991]...</cite> <quote>I disagree. I've seen plenty of judges rule completely against their personal belief. What you both said is outright false. We need to get more judges like the ones I'm refering to. Not more judges who want to push their agenda. You both are way too biased to make an appeal to emotions and expect it to be taken seriously.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JosefuJustice11 09/08/17 1:21:52 AM #29:	ArchiePeck posted... Doom_Art posted... Damn right. If you wanna be in government, leave your religion at the door. --- I felt like I was watching a dream I'd never wake up from... Before I knew it, the dream was all over. <cite>JosefuJustice11 posted [p:886228560] in Sorry CHRI... [t:75752991]...</cite> <quote><cite>ArchiePeck posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote>Damn right. If you wanna be in government, leave your religion at the door.</quote></quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 09/08/17 1:43:24 AM #30:	TradPaladin01 posted... Dragonblade01 posted... I'm not saying being of a religion must necessarily influence your ability to perform a job. I'm saying that if it does, then employers should be allowed to bring it up. And ultimately, regardless of whether or not religion is the source of the particular problem, the actual reason behind not hiring someone wouldn't be because they were of a certain religion, but because their employer couldn't be confident that they would be able to do their job. It may seem like a trivial distinction, but it's an extremely important one. Fair point, but if Muslims are allowed to sue employers who fire them for not delivering beer or pork and win, then Christians better be allowed to be judges, too. Where did this happen? <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:886229383] in Sorry CHRI... [t:75752991]...</cite> <quote><cite>TradPaladin01 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm not saying being of a religion must necessarily influence your ability to perform a job. I'm saying that if it does, then employers should be allowed to bring it up. And ultimately, regardless of whether or not religion is the source of the particular problem, the actual reason behind not hiring someone wouldn't be because they were of a certain religion, but because their employer couldn't be confident that they would be able to do their job. It may seem like a trivial distinction, but it's an extremely important one.</quote> Fair point, but if Muslims are allowed to sue employers who fire them for not delivering beer or pork and win, then Christians better be allowed to be judges, too.</quote> Where did this happen?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CADE FOSTER 09/08/17 1:46:54 AM #31:	separation of church and state i dont want religion in any way shape or form in the government --- http://i.imgur.com/fQ2zSjD.gif https://i.imgur.com/rUkYNB9.jpg https://i.imgur.com/wDVZCkd.gif https://i.imgur.com/VX0lMwY.jpg <cite>CADE FOSTER posted [p:886229513] in Sorry CHRI... [t:75752991]...</cite> <quote>separation of church and state i dont want religion in any way shape or form in the government</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Callixtus 09/08/17 2:16:44 AM #32:	CADE FOSTER posted... separation of church and state i dont want religion in any way shape or form in the government And that's relevant to this conversation how? --- Liberal Arrogance:Academics are overwhelmingly liberal because the nature of the job, seeking information for the good of humanity, self selects liberals--COVxy <cite>Callixtus posted [p:886230496] in Sorry CHRI... [t:75752991]...</cite> <quote><cite>CADE FOSTER posted...</cite> <quote>separation of church and state i dont want religion in any way shape or form in the government</quote> And that's relevant to this conversation how?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Syntheticon 09/08/17 2:55:07 AM #33:	Sorry POLITICIANS! If you want to be in government, prepare to keep your faith entirely separate from policy and lawmaking! FTFY. --- Mod me? You don't even know me! <cite>Syntheticon posted [p:886231573] in Sorry CHRI... [t:75752991]...</cite> <quote><quote>Sorry POLITICIANS! If you want to be in government, prepare to keep your faith entirely separate from policy and lawmaking!</quote> FTFY.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TradPaladin01 09/08/17 3:03:42 AM #34:	Syntheticon posted... Sorry POLITICIANS! If you want to be in government, prepare to keep your policy and lawmaking entirely separate from money and special interests! FTFY. FTFY. <cite>TradPaladin01 posted [p:886231804] in Sorry CHRI... [t:75752991]...</cite> <quote><cite>Syntheticon posted...</cite> <quote><quote>Sorry POLITICIANS! If you want to be in government, prepare to keep your policy and lawmaking entirely separate from money and special interests!</quote> FTFY.</quote> FTFY.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Deadpool 09/08/17 8:09:08 AM #35:	Callixtus posted... Every religious person cares more about their beliefs than their job. If that were true, then that would be evidence that no religious person is fit to be a high ranking judge... --- We are living in a world today where lemonade is made from artificial flavors and furniture polish is made from real lemons. <cite>The Deadpool posted [p:886237904] in Sorry CHRI... [t:75752991]...</cite> <quote><cite>Callixtus posted...</cite> <quote>Every religious person cares more about their beliefs than their job. </quote> If that were true, then that would be evidence that no religious person is fit to be a high ranking judge...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
C7D 09/08/17 8:20:36 AM #36:	The Deadpool posted... Callixtus posted... Every religious person cares more about their beliefs than their job. If that were true, then that would be evidence that no religious person is fit to be a high ranking judge... Their end goal... <cite>C7D posted [p:886238180] in Sorry CHRI... [t:75752991]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Deadpool posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Callixtus posted...</cite> <quote>Every religious person cares more about their beliefs than their job. </quote> If that were true, then that would be evidence that no religious person is fit to be a high ranking judge...</quote> Their end goal...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OpheliaAdenade 09/08/17 8:21:57 AM #37:	We have a separation of church and state in this country. If you wanna be able to put your beliefs ahead of your civic duty, move to the middle east. :v --- http://imgur.com/Q6Qj55q <cite>OpheliaAdenade posted [p:886238211] in Sorry CHRI... [t:75752991]...</cite> <quote>We have a separation of church and state in this country. If you wanna be able to put your beliefs ahead of your civic duty, move to the middle east. :v</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 09/08/17 10:36:28 AM #38:	OpheliaAdenade posted... We have a separation of church and state in this country. If you wanna be able to put your beliefs ahead of your civic duty, move to the middle east. :v Today I learned that you can't be a leader in America if you believe in a higher power. <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:886242785] in Sorry CHRI... [t:75752991]...</cite> <quote><cite>OpheliaAdenade posted...</cite> <quote>We have a separation of church and state in this country. If you wanna be able to put your beliefs ahead of your civic duty, move to the middle east. :v</quote> Today I learned that you can't be a leader in America if you believe in a higher power.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Callixtus 09/08/17 10:37:15 AM #39:	The Deadpool posted... Callixtus posted... Every religious person cares more about their beliefs than their job. If that were true, then that would be evidence that no religious person is fit to be a high ranking judge... Did you see the part where I said the same thing about people with a moral code or are you just being purposefully obtuse? --- Liberal Arrogance:Academics are overwhelmingly liberal because the nature of the job, seeking information for the good of humanity, self selects liberals--COVxy <cite>Callixtus posted [p:886242820] in Sorry CHRI... [t:75752991]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Deadpool posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Callixtus posted...</cite> <quote>Every religious person cares more about their beliefs than their job. </quote> If that were true, then that would be evidence that no religious person is fit to be a high ranking judge...</quote> Did you see the part where I said the same thing about people with a moral code or are you just being purposefully obtuse?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OpheliaAdenade 09/08/17 10:40:25 AM #40:	Skye Reynolds posted... OpheliaAdenade posted... We have a separation of church and state in this country. If you wanna be able to put your beliefs ahead of your civic duty, move to the middle east. :v Today I learned that you can't be a leader in America if you believe in a higher power. You can, as long as you don't use your belief in a higher power as your source of judgement in your job. This should be common sense... --- http://imgur.com/Q6Qj55q <cite>OpheliaAdenade posted [p:886242943] in Sorry CHRI... [t:75752991]...</cite> <quote><cite>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OpheliaAdenade posted...</cite> <quote>We have a separation of church and state in this country. If you wanna be able to put your beliefs ahead of your civic duty, move to the middle east. :v</quote> Today I learned that you can't be a leader in America if you believe in a higher power.</quote> You can, as long as you don't use your belief in a higher power as your source of judgement in your job. This should be common sense...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Callixtus 09/08/17 10:41:51 AM #41:	OpheliaAdenade posted... Skye Reynolds posted... OpheliaAdenade posted... We have a separation of church and state in this country. If you wanna be able to put your beliefs ahead of your civic duty, move to the middle east. :v Today I learned that you can't be a leader in America if you believe in a higher power. You can, as long as you don't use your belief in a higher power as your source of judgement in your job. This should be common sense... Any evidence the nominee would have ruled on explicitly religious grounds? --- Liberal Arrogance:Academics are overwhelmingly liberal because the nature of the job, seeking information for the good of humanity, self selects liberals--COVxy <cite>Callixtus posted [p:886242990] in Sorry CHRI... [t:75752991]...</cite> <quote><cite>OpheliaAdenade posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OpheliaAdenade posted...</cite> <quote>We have a separation of church and state in this country. If you wanna be able to put your beliefs ahead of your civic duty, move to the middle east. :v</quote> Today I learned that you can't be a leader in America if you believe in a higher power.</quote> You can, as long as you don't use your belief in a higher power as your source of judgement in your job. This should be common sense...</quote> Any evidence the nominee would have ruled on explicitly religious grounds?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordRazziel 09/08/17 10:44:59 AM #42:	What if a Muslim thought the US should institute Sharia law, but said they wouldn't let that influence their job. Would that be okay? --- http://i.imgur.com/8pzUM.gif http://i.imgur.com/Oh1iujg.gif The only bad part about flying is having to come back down to the f***in' world ~Rat <cite>LordRazziel posted [p:886243124] in Sorry CHRI... [t:75752991]...</cite> <quote>What if a Muslim thought the US should institute Sharia law, but said they wouldn't let that influence their job. Would that be okay?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Callixtus 09/08/17 10:47:55 AM #43:	LordRazziel posted... What if a Muslim thought the US should institute Sharia law, but said they wouldn't let that influence their job. Would that be okay? Sure if they were otherwise qualified. Any attempt to rule on a completely religious basis would be summarily reversed and the judge might even be impeached if it was extreme enough. The nominee here, however, explicitly stated her duty as a judge is to follow the law. --- Liberal Arrogance:Academics are overwhelmingly liberal because the nature of the job, seeking information for the good of humanity, self selects liberals--COVxy <cite>Callixtus posted [p:886243258] in Sorry CHRI... [t:75752991]...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote>What if a Muslim thought the US should institute Sharia law, but said they wouldn't let that influence their job. Would that be okay?</quote> Sure if they were otherwise qualified. Any attempt to rule on a completely religious basis would be summarily reversed and the judge might even be impeached if it was extreme enough. The nominee here, however, explicitly stated her duty as a judge is to follow the law.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lowtides 09/08/17 10:50:24 AM #44:	Stop trying to dforce your Bible down my throat. I'm going to bang other men regardless. Take your Bible and shove it up your bum <cite>lowtides posted [p:886243376] in Sorry CHRI... [t:75752991]...</cite> <quote>Stop trying to dforce your Bible down my throat. I'm going to bang other men regardless. Take your Bible and shove it up your bum</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OpheliaAdenade 09/08/17 10:54:23 AM #45:	Callixtus posted... Any evidence the nominee would have ruled on explicitly religious grounds? well, she's already got a hate boner for roe vs wade going. :u what does that tell you? --- http://imgur.com/Q6Qj55q <cite>OpheliaAdenade posted [p:886243544] in Sorry CHRI... [t:75752991]...</cite> <quote><cite>Callixtus posted...</cite> <quote>Any evidence the nominee would have ruled on explicitly religious grounds?</quote> well, she's already got a hate boner for roe vs wade going. :u what does that tell you?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordRazziel 09/08/17 10:54:28 AM #46:	Callixtus posted... LordRazziel posted... What if a Muslim thought the US should institute Sharia law, but said they wouldn't let that influence their job. Would that be okay? Sure if they were otherwise qualified. Any attempt to rule on a completely religious basis would be summarily reversed and the judge might even be impeached if it was extreme enough. The nominee here, however, explicitly stated her duty as a judge is to follow the law. Somehow I doubt you would, but maybe I just want to be right. I don't know what she was saying, so it's hard to make a decision. I wil say that, if someone is saying radical things, saying they won't let it affect their job shouldn't alleviate any concerns. --- http://i.imgur.com/8pzUM.gif http://i.imgur.com/Oh1iujg.gif The only bad part about flying is having to come back down to the f***in' world ~Rat <cite>LordRazziel posted [p:886243548] in Sorry CHRI... [t:75752991]...</cite> <quote><cite>Callixtus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LordRazziel posted...</cite> <quote>What if a Muslim thought the US should institute Sharia law, but said they wouldn't let that influence their job. Would that be okay?</quote> Sure if they were otherwise qualified. Any attempt to rule on a completely religious basis would be summarily reversed and the judge might even be impeached if it was extreme enough. The nominee here, however, explicitly stated her duty as a judge is to follow the law.</quote> Somehow I doubt you would, but maybe I just want to be right. I don't know what she was saying, so it's hard to make a decision. I wil say that, if someone is saying radical things, saying they won't let it affect their job shouldn't alleviate any concerns.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Callixtus 09/08/17 11:18:36 AM #47:	OpheliaAdenade posted... Callixtus posted... Any evidence the nominee would have ruled on explicitly religious grounds? well, she's already got a hate boner for roe vs wade going. :u what does that tell you? That she doesn't think it's good law. But opposing abortion isn't a religious belief in itself, although it certainly may be informed by them. --- Liberal Arrogance:Academics are overwhelmingly liberal because the nature of the job, seeking information for the good of humanity, self selects liberals--COVxy <cite>Callixtus posted [p:886244586] in Sorry CHRI... [t:75752991]...</cite> <quote><cite>OpheliaAdenade posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Callixtus posted...</cite> <quote>Any evidence the nominee would have ruled on explicitly religious grounds?</quote> well, she's already got a hate boner for roe vs wade going. :u what does that tell you?</quote> That she doesn't think it's good law. But opposing abortion isn't a religious belief in itself, although it certainly may be informed by them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Horus_Leftfield 09/08/17 11:19:30 AM #48:	Doom_Art posted... Damn right. If you wanna be in government, leave your religion at the door. --- "To be a poor man is hard, but to be a poor race in a land of dollars is the very bottom of hardships." -- W.E.B. Du Bois <cite>Horus_Leftfield posted [p:886244636] in Sorry CHRI... [t:75752991]...</cite> <quote><cite>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote>Damn right. If you wanna be in government, leave your religion at the door.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OpheliaAdenade 09/08/17 11:20:19 AM #49:	Callixtus posted... That she doesn't think it's good law. But opposing abortion isn't a religious belief in itself, although it certainly may be informed by them. Ah, so you just want to argue semantics then. --- http://imgur.com/Q6Qj55q <cite>OpheliaAdenade posted [p:886244669] in Sorry CHRI... [t:75752991]...</cite> <quote><cite>Callixtus posted...</cite> <quote>That she doesn't think it's good law. But opposing abortion isn't a religious belief in itself, although it certainly may be informed by them.</quote> Ah, so you just want to argue semantics then.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Callixtus 09/08/17 11:21:44 AM #50:	Horus_Leftfield posted... Doom_Art posted... Damn right. If you wanna be in government, leave your religion at the door. You people keep quoting this line despite its minimal relevance to this topic. The nominee is being attacked for being an orthodox Christian, not because she threatened to use her religious beliefs in her capacity as a judge. --- Liberal Arrogance:Academics are overwhelmingly liberal because the nature of the job, seeking information for the good of humanity, self selects liberals--COVxy <cite>Callixtus posted [p:886244751] in Sorry CHRI... [t:75752991]...</cite> <quote><cite>Horus_Leftfield posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote>Damn right. If you wanna be in government, leave your religion at the door.</quote></quote> You people keep quoting this line despite its minimal relevance to this topic. The nominee is being attacked for being an orthodox Christian, not because she threatened to use her religious beliefs in her capacity as a judge.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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