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ChainedRedone 09/07/17 11:26:03 AM #1:	Is it really because of their name? Do they also think North Korea is a democratic republic because that's what DPRK stands for? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.2 <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:886183742] in Why do man... [t:75750651]...</cite> <quote>Is it really because of their name? Do they also think North Korea is a democratic republic because that's what DPRK stands for?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KarmaMuffin 09/07/17 11:27:17 AM #2:	Conservatives generally don't think context matters. <cite>KarmaMuffin posted [p:886183808] in Why do man... [t:75750651]...</cite> <quote>Conservatives generally don't think context matters.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Twinmold 09/07/17 11:35:56 AM #3:	KarmaMuffin posted... Conservatives generally don't think... Fixed. --- Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - Mark Twain <cite>Twinmold posted [p:886184184] in Why do man... [t:75750651]...</cite> <quote><cite>KarmaMuffin posted...</cite> <quote>Conservatives generally don't think...</quote> Fixed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Romulox28 09/07/17 11:37:14 AM #4:	honestly i never understood this, but then again i dont know much about economics. didnt the federal govt in nazi germany nationalize all the industries? isnt the government seizing the means of production kind of the whole point of the ideology --- A Green Butter Alt http://i.imgur.com/LhwwG.gif <cite>Romulox28 posted [p:886184248] in Why do man... [t:75750651]...</cite> <quote>honestly i never understood this, but then again i dont know much about economics. didnt the federal govt in nazi germany nationalize all the industries? isnt the government seizing the means of production kind of the whole point of the ideology</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nomadic View 09/07/17 11:40:49 AM #5:	They are a product of the socialist state. More government, restriction of citizens' rights, disarmament of the public, etc. Although the "kill Jews" ideology was a defining characteristic in the National Socialist party to most people, that is not where the socialist ideologies end. But it is certainly the most egregious aspect of the National Socialist party. --- {}\\{}(o){}\\//{}//=\\{})){}(< \\//{}{{-{}//\\{} {}xxxxxxxx{};;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;> <cite>Nomadic View posted [p:886184426] in Why do man... [t:75750651]...</cite> <quote>They are a product of the socialist state. More government, restriction of citizens' rights, disarmament of the public, etc. Although the "kill Jews" ideology was a defining characteristic in the National Socialist party to most people, that is not where the socialist ideologies end. But it is certainly the most egregious aspect of the National Socialist party.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 09/07/17 11:42:13 AM #6:	Romulox28 posted... honestly i never understood this, but then again i dont know much about economics. didnt the federal govt in nazi germany nationalize all the industries? isnt the government seizing the means of production kind of the whole point of the ideology The people who are saying Nazis are socialist don't actually understand what socialism is. They just think socialism is bad so they tie one of the worse groups in history with socialism, because they had socialism in their name. This way they can pretend to be on the right side while being perfectly okay with the rising white nationalist and neo nazis in their party by saying at least they aren't socialist. --- http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:886184496] in Why do man... [t:75750651]...</cite> <quote><cite>Romulox28 posted...</cite> <quote>honestly i never understood this, but then again i dont know much about economics. didnt the federal govt in nazi germany nationalize all the industries? isnt the government seizing the means of production kind of the whole point of the ideology</quote> The people who are saying Nazis are socialist don't actually understand what socialism is. They just think socialism is bad so they tie one of the worse groups in history with socialism, because they had socialism in their name. This way they can pretend to be on the right side while being perfectly okay with the rising white nationalist and neo nazis in their party by saying at least they aren't socialist.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
K181 09/07/17 11:45:10 AM #7:	Three reasons: 1) Idiocy, 2) Intentionally misleading idiots, or 3) Trolling (1 and 3 might be repeating) --- The poster formerly known as Kakarot181: July 2, 2002 - March 14, 2012. Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. <cite>K181 posted [p:886184636] in Why do man... [t:75750651]...</cite> <quote>Three reasons: 1) Idiocy, 2) Intentionally misleading idiots, or 3) Trolling (1 and 3 might be repeating)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Romulox28 09/07/17 11:47:58 AM #8:	Tmaster148 posted... Romulox28 posted... honestly i never understood this, but then again i dont know much about economics. didnt the federal govt in nazi germany nationalize all the industries? isnt the government seizing the means of production kind of the whole point of the ideology The people who are saying Nazis are socialist don't actually understand what socialism is. They just think socialism is bad so they tie one of the worse groups in history with socialism, because they had socialism in their name. This way they can pretend to be on the right side while being perfectly okay with the rising white nationalist and neo nazis in their party by saying at least they aren't socialist. ok but you're not answering my question lol --- A Green Butter Alt http://i.imgur.com/LhwwG.gif <cite>Romulox28 posted [p:886184768] in Why do man... [t:75750651]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Romulox28 posted...</cite> <quote>honestly i never understood this, but then again i dont know much about economics. didnt the federal govt in nazi germany nationalize all the industries? isnt the government seizing the means of production kind of the whole point of the ideology</quote> The people who are saying Nazis are socialist don't actually understand what socialism is. They just think socialism is bad so they tie one of the worse groups in history with socialism, because they had socialism in their name. This way they can pretend to be on the right side while being perfectly okay with the rising white nationalist and neo nazis in their party by saying at least they aren't socialist.</quote> ok but you're not answering my question lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CelestialVoices 09/07/17 11:51:15 AM #9:	words hard --- emo trash http://www.last.fm/user/pinkfloydrulez <cite>CelestialVoices posted [p:886184943] in Why do man... [t:75750651]...</cite> <quote>words hard</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 09/07/17 11:53:30 AM #10:	Romulox28 posted... Tmaster148 posted... Romulox28 posted... honestly i never understood this, but then again i dont know much about economics. didnt the federal govt in nazi germany nationalize all the industries? isnt the government seizing the means of production kind of the whole point of the ideology The people who are saying Nazis are socialist don't actually understand what socialism is. They just think socialism is bad so they tie one of the worse groups in history with socialism, because they had socialism in their name. This way they can pretend to be on the right side while being perfectly okay with the rising white nationalist and neo nazis in their party by saying at least they aren't socialist. ok but you're not answering my question lol They didn't as far I'm aware of. They banned other political parties and had the goal of trying to fix Germany by getting rid undesirables. --- http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:886185073] in Why do man... [t:75750651]...</cite> <quote><cite>Romulox28 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Romulox28 posted...</cite> <quote>honestly i never understood this, but then again i dont know much about economics. didnt the federal govt in nazi germany nationalize all the industries? isnt the government seizing the means of production kind of the whole point of the ideology</quote> The people who are saying Nazis are socialist don't actually understand what socialism is. They just think socialism is bad so they tie one of the worse groups in history with socialism, because they had socialism in their name. This way they can pretend to be on the right side while being perfectly okay with the rising white nationalist and neo nazis in their party by saying at least they aren't socialist.</quote> ok but you're not answering my question lol</quote> They didn't as far I'm aware of. They banned other political parties and had the goal of trying to fix Germany by getting rid undesirables.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mario2000 09/07/17 11:54:11 AM #11:	bc they're the same people who go "lololo democrats are still mad we took away their slaves!!!" they are utterly ignorant of history and politics --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash <cite>mario2000 posted [p:886185110] in Why do man... [t:75750651]...</cite> <quote>bc they're the same people who go "lololo democrats are still mad we took away their slaves!!!" they are utterly ignorant of history and politics</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 09/07/17 11:54:46 AM #12:	Because Nazi is short for national socialists. Sure that's as true as sallyng North Korea is a democracy because it's full title is the Democratic people's republic. Names lie. --- No sig. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:886185149] in Why do man... [t:75750651]...</cite> <quote>Because Nazi is short for national socialists. Sure that's as true as sallyng North Korea is a democracy because it's full title is the Democratic people's republic. Names lie.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NadYobWoc 09/07/17 11:57:33 AM #13:	Always conveniently ignoring the fact that open socialists were targeted by the regime. --- Cowboy Dan's a major player in the cowboy scene <cite>NadYobWoc posted [p:886185304] in Why do man... [t:75750651]...</cite> <quote>Always conveniently ignoring the fact that open socialists were targeted by the regime.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anteaterking 09/07/17 11:59:48 AM #15:	Because they see "large government taxing you" and "members of the government stealing your money for their own personal use" as being the same thing. --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg <cite>Anteaterking posted [p:886185438] in Why do man... [t:75750651]...</cite> <quote>Because they see "large government taxing you" and "members of the government stealing your money for their own personal use" as being the same thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Taxer 09/07/17 12:02:54 PM #16:	While fascism and socialism do support nationalizing industries, the reasons behind them are different. Socialism supports it to remove capitalists from power and redirect profits to the people (in theory anyway) while fascism does it in order for the government to gain more control along with the prospect of promoting national/cultural heritage along with corporatism of traditional industries. You have to remember that Nazism rise was due to it proclaiming to be an alternative to free market capitalism and international socialism. --- https://soundcloud.com/taxerthetyrant <cite>Taxer posted [p:886185606] in Why do man... [t:75750651]...</cite> <quote>While fascism and socialism do support nationalizing industries, the reasons behind them are different. Socialism supports it to remove capitalists from power and redirect profits to the people (in theory anyway) while fascism does it in order for the government to gain more control along with the prospect of promoting national/cultural heritage along with corporatism of traditional industries. You have to remember that Nazism rise was due to it proclaiming to be an alternative to free market capitalism and international socialism.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeoShadowhen 09/07/17 12:06:16 PM #17:	"the abolition of all incomes unearned by work," "the ruthless confiscation of all war profits," "the nationalization of all businesses which have been formed into corporations," "profit-sharing in large enterprises," "extensive development of insurance for old-age," and "land reform suitable to our national requirements". I mean, there were a lot of socialist ideals within the party. There are a lot of socialist ideals in most economic systems in the current age. Not the least of which is the United States. Chances are the people who go on about how the nazi's were socialist would also erroneously not recognize that the current US system is damn close to the same degree of socialism. We just have oligarchs as opposed to a dictator. <cite>NeoShadowhen posted [p:886185782] in Why do man... [t:75750651]...</cite> <quote>"the abolition of all incomes unearned by work," "the ruthless confiscation of all war profits," "the nationalization of all businesses which have been formed into corporations," "profit-sharing in large enterprises," "extensive development of insurance for old-age," and "land reform suitable to our national requirements". I mean, there were a lot of socialist ideals within the party. There are a lot of socialist ideals in most economic systems in the current age. Not the least of which is the United States. Chances are the people who go on about how the nazi's were socialist would also erroneously not recognize that the current US system is damn close to the same degree of socialism. We just have oligarchs as opposed to a dictator.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 09/07/17 1:05:50 PM #18:	Twinmold posted... KarmaMuffin posted... Conservatives generally don't think... Fixed. This --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:886188984] in Why do man... [t:75750651]...</cite> <quote><cite>Twinmold posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KarmaMuffin posted...</cite> <quote>Conservatives generally don't think...</quote> Fixed.</quote> This</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Megaman50100 09/07/17 1:07:40 PM #19:	Because of their name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Party --- move all remaining groundhog mercenaries to the front lines. Have sheep troopers squadrons A and B flank the cows. They're using DC-17 hoof blasters. <cite>Megaman50100 posted [p:886189087] in Why do man... [t:75750651]...</cite> <quote>Because of their name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Party</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 09/07/17 1:08:02 PM #20:	NeoShadowhen posted... "the abolition of all incomes unearned by work," "the ruthless confiscation of all war profits," "the nationalization of all businesses which have been formed into corporations," "profit-sharing in large enterprises," "extensive development of insurance for old-age," and "land reform suitable to our national requirements". I mean, there were a lot of socialist ideals within the party. There are a lot of socialist ideals in most economic systems in the current age. Not the least of which is the United States. Chances are the people who go on about how the nazi's were socialist would also erroneously not recognize that the current US system is damn close to the same degree of socialism. We just have oligarchs as opposed to a dictator. It's probably too late for you to edit out that disgusting, inappropriate apostrophe there :( --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:886189099] in Why do man... [t:75750651]...</cite> <quote><cite>NeoShadowhen posted...</cite> <quote>"the abolition of all incomes unearned by work," "the ruthless confiscation of all war profits," "the nationalization of all businesses which have been formed into corporations," "profit-sharing in large enterprises," "extensive development of insurance for old-age," and "land reform suitable to our national requirements". I mean, there were a lot of socialist ideals within the party. There are a lot of socialist ideals in most economic systems in the current age. Not the least of which is the United States. Chances are the people who go on about how the nazi's were socialist would also erroneously not recognize that the current US system is damn close to the same degree of socialism. We just have oligarchs as opposed to a dictator.</quote> It's probably too late for you to edit out that disgusting, inappropriate apostrophe there :(</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChainedRedone 09/07/17 5:06:04 PM #21:	Megaman50100 posted... Because of their name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Party Did you even read my post you ignant? --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:886201905] in Why do man... [t:75750651]...</cite> <quote><cite>Megaman50100 posted...</cite> <quote>Because of their name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Party</quote> Did you even read my post you ignant?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Megaman50100 09/07/17 5:55:57 PM #22:	ChainedRedone posted... Did you even read my post you ignant? You asked if it was really because of their name, and the answer is 'It is because of their name.' --- move all remaining groundhog mercenaries to the front lines. Have sheep troopers squadrons A and B flank the cows. They're using DC-17 hoof blasters. <cite>Megaman50100 posted [p:886204607] in Why do man... [t:75750651]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote>Did you even read my post you ignant?</quote> You asked if it was really because of their name, and the answer is 'It is because of their name.'</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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