Current Events > Daily reminder that if it's ok to punch Nazis, it's also ok to punch Commies.

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Mal_Fet
09/06/17 4:27:35 AM
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Nazis:
- Genocide
- War crimes
- Hateful rhetoric
- Regressive collectivist system of government

Commies:
- More genocide
- More war crimes
- Hateful rhetoric
- Regressive collectivist system of government

I see no reason why we shouldn't be allowed to punch commies and get them out of our streets so they can't spread their dangerous rhetoric. Who's with me?
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Dash_Harber
09/06/17 4:53:06 AM
#2:


Except there is nothing inherently in communism that says 'commit genocide against innocents'.
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0AbsoluteZero0
09/06/17 4:55:53 AM
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Dash_Harber posted...
Except there is nothing inherently in communism that says 'commit genocide against innocents'.

Yep, yet another Mal_Fet fail.
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literal_garbage
09/06/17 4:56:12 AM
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How the fuck do you keep making these topics before me
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Flasbangs
09/06/17 4:57:35 AM
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Even if you did punch a commie, even a 5 year old girl one, she'd probably kick your ass.
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gunplagirl
09/06/17 5:00:40 AM
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Flasbangs posted...
Even if you did punch a commie, even a 5 year old girl one, she'd probably kick your ass.

I am surprised mal hasn't lost the fight against gravity yet. Or maybe he just hides that he falls all the time.
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darkjedilink
09/06/17 5:10:37 AM
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Dash_Harber posted...
Except there is nothing inherently in communism that says 'commit genocide against innocents'.

That whole class warfare thing got retroactively removed from The Communist Manifesto?
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hockeybub89
09/06/17 5:19:45 AM
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Yeah this is a topic. Real question is: Do you think we should punch commies, Mal?
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Rhylos
09/06/17 5:23:28 AM
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If you think communism hasn't killed masses of people, then lol.

But it's okay, maybe we'll get it right this time.
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RuthlessBadger
09/06/17 5:26:02 AM
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No wonder this world is fucked. People actually believe communism is all good.
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hockeybub89
09/06/17 5:30:19 AM
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RuthlessBadger posted...
No wonder this world is fucked. People actually believe communism is all good.

Who believes that and how is it a large enough group to fuck the world?

Communism is not inherently hateful and genocidal no matter how bad it fails in practice as an economic system.
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alexander37
09/06/17 5:31:02 AM
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literal_garbage posted...
How the fuck do you keep making these topics before me

LMFAO
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do_ob_tpkillr
09/06/17 5:38:10 AM
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literal_garbage posted...
How the fuck do you keep making these topics before me


Up your game, lit garb.
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darkjedilink
09/06/17 7:51:49 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
RuthlessBadger posted...
No wonder this world is fucked. People actually believe communism is all good.

Who believes that and how is it a large enough group to fuck the world?

Communism is not inherently hateful and genocidal no matter how bad it fails in practice as an economic system.

Literally requires hating rich people so much that you start a civil war to steal everything they own.
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pinky0926
09/06/17 7:53:43 AM
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Must be exhausting being Mal Fet
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mortimerjames
09/06/17 7:54:44 AM
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*punches Bernie Sanders*
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Doom_Art
09/06/17 7:54:57 AM
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It really is quite odd how defensive you get about this
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PoopMcgee420
09/06/17 7:56:46 AM
#18:


Agreed.

#punchanazi
#punchantifa
#punchablmmember

Are all good hashtags.

But only punch those who are violent or who are actively promoting violence.


Unless you're okay with the consequences of it
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pinky0926
09/06/17 7:56:59 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
It really is quite odd how defensive you get about this


Mal obviously feels personally attacked because he read that some idiots equate anyone right of center as Nazi, and took that to heart so much that he needs to make daily topics telling most people who dgaf either way what they don't care to hear, because he feels threatened and marginalised by the liberal boogieman

It's a really interesting phenomenon, hence my last post: Must be exhausting being Mal Fet
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PoopMcgee420
09/06/17 7:59:15 AM
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darkjedilink posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
Except there is nothing inherently in communism that says 'commit genocide against innocents'.

That whole class warfare thing got retroactively removed from The Communist Manifesto?


If its not on 4chan they dont know about it
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PoopMcgee420
09/06/17 8:01:15 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
RuthlessBadger posted...
No wonder this world is fucked. People actually believe communism is all good.

Who believes that and how is it a large enough group to fuck the world?

Communism is not inherently hateful and genocidal no matter how bad it fails in practice as an economic system.



LMFAO
LMAO
ROFL
CTCU
LOL
HAHA
HEHE

XD
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uwnim
09/06/17 8:02:39 AM
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darkjedilink posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
Except there is nothing inherently in communism that says 'commit genocide against innocents'.

That whole class warfare thing got retroactively removed from The Communist Manifesto?

Not genocide. Goal is to remove their power, killing them all is not required.


Anyways tc, Nazi punching is ok because of ww2, punching commies is not because of the Cold War.
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DifferentialEquation
09/06/17 8:05:28 AM
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Dash_Harber posted...
Except there is nothing inherently in communism that says 'commit genocide against innocents'.


So? It still happens because of communism whether or not it's a part of communism's official mission statement. If you preach communism, then you know what it leads to.
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PoopMcgee420
09/06/17 8:06:09 AM
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uwnim posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
Except there is nothing inherently in communism that says 'commit genocide against innocents'.

That whole class warfare thing got retroactively removed from The Communist Manifesto?

Not genocide. Goal is to remove their power, killing them all is not required.


Anyways tc, Nazi punching is ok because of ww2, punching commies is not because of the Cold War.


Wow this post smells like bias ignorance

Anyway tc, Nazi punching is ok because of ww2, punching commies is ok because of ww2
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CanuckCowboy
09/06/17 8:31:50 AM
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Daily reminder that if you're living in the early to mid 1900s you don't have the internet so shut the fuck up.
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NibeIungsnarf
09/06/17 8:42:13 AM
#27:


It's not okay to punch anyone over their political beliefs.
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PoopMcgee420
09/06/17 8:43:16 AM
#28:


CrimsonRage posted...
Welcome back, Mal_Fet. Nice to see you're right back at it, not skipping a beat. Impressive.

hockeybub89 posted...
Yeah this is a topic. Real question is: Do you think we should punch commies, Mal?


Don't know if he would punch commies, but if it commies were getting punched, he wouldn't care nearly as much, I guarantee you that.


And the same could be applied with you and nazis.
..point?
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NINExATExSEVEN
09/06/17 8:45:59 AM
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Don't punch anybody. But it's really crazy how some people LITERALLY defend communism even though tens of millions of people died from it and many more suffered.

The only real difference between Nazism and communism is the path taken to the same end result. Millions of dead innocents.
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The Admiral
09/06/17 9:03:25 AM
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If it's not obvious, the intelligent position here is to not go around punching people so long as their actions are limited to words. Yes, even if those words are hateful and call for things like genocide, they are still just words and do not merit unilateral violence. If you're the one "punching the Nazi" who's out spouting his BS, congrats, you've created a situation in life where you are a shittier person than a Nazi.
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That_Happened
09/06/17 9:06:58 AM
#31:


The Admiral posted...
Yes, even if those words are hateful and call for things like genocide, they are still just words and do not merit unilateral violence.


*group of people point guns at other group of people*

"Ready!"
Admiral: It's just words! Do not respond with violence!
"Aiiiiim!"
Admiral: Hold on guys! It's just words!

*person punches gun holder*

Admiral: YOU'RE NO BETTER THAN THEY ARE!
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NibeIungsnarf
09/06/17 9:06:58 AM
#32:


The Admiral posted...
If you're the one "punching the Nazi" who's out spouting his BS, congrats, you've created a situation in life where you are a shittier person than a Nazi.

That's a ridiculous thing to say. Someone who punches a nazi over their ideology is not a shittier person than someone who is a nazi.

How can you possibly defend that statement.
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The Admiral
09/06/17 9:10:18 AM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
The Admiral posted...
If you're the one "punching the Nazi" who's out spouting his BS, congrats, you've created a situation in life where you are a shittier person than a Nazi.

That's a ridiculous thing to say. Someone who punches a nazi over their ideology is not a shittier person than someone who is a nazi.

How can you possibly defend that statement.


Yes, they in fact are. One is a violent criminal, the other is not.
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The Admiral
09/06/17 9:11:09 AM
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That_Happened posted...
*group of people point guns at other group of people*

"Ready!"
Admiral: It's just words! Do not respond with violence!
"Aiiiiim!"
Admiral: Hold on guys! It's just words!

*person punches gun holder*

Admiral: YOU'RE NO BETTER THAN THEY ARE!


"I need to make up a ridiculous strawman because I have no point otherwise."
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gunplagirl
09/06/17 9:11:37 AM
#35:


That_Happened posted...
The Admiral posted...
Yes, even if those words are hateful and call for things like genocide, they are still just words and do not merit unilateral violence.


*group of people point guns at other group of people*

"Ready!"
Admiral: It's just words! Do not respond with violence!
"Aiiiiim!"
Admiral: Hold on guys! It's just words!

*person punches gun holder*

Admiral: YOU'RE NO BETTER THAN THEY ARE!


And then the next step where Addy justifies the Nazis executing them because they punched them.
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That_Happened
09/06/17 9:13:37 AM
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The Admiral posted...
"I need to make up a ridiculous strawman because I have no point otherwise."


Ridiculous responses to your ridiculous statements. You set the bar, buddy.

And no, punching a Nazi doesn't make a person worse than being a Nazi. Calling for the alienation or death of other races means you're beyond horrible, to your core. Punching a shit tier human means you made a bad decision on the spur of the moment but it may not be representative of who you are as a person.
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The Admiral
09/06/17 9:14:29 AM
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CrimsonRage posted...
The Admiral posted...
If you're the one "punching the Nazi" who's out spouting his BS, congrats, you've created a situation in life where you are a shittier person than a Nazi.


Punching people unprovoked is bad, but that in no way makes someone shittier than a Nazi. Come on, remember what Nazi ideology is actually about.


Yes, as much as it might hurt your feelings, it does.

Like you all have been corrected about before, these "Nazis" in 2017 America are not WW2 Nazis, and you don't get to lazily group them just because it helps your argument. If you're out punching some neckbeard loser who thinks white supremacy rhetoric is edgy, you're a shittier person than he is. This is not even debatable. Don't like that? Don't be a violent piece of shit who assaults people.
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That_Happened
09/06/17 9:16:25 AM
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The Admiral posted...
If you're out punching some neckbeard loser who things white supremacy rhetoric is edgy


Aww, look at you trying to downplay white supremacy. ;)
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The Admiral
09/06/17 9:17:52 AM
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That_Happened posted...
The Admiral posted...
If you're out punching some neckbeard loser who things white supremacy rhetoric is edgy


Aww, look at you trying to downplay white supremacy. ;)


You mean undo the hyperbolic and intellectually dishonest conflation you tried to do with WW2 Nazis?

I'm sorry if reality doesn't align with your desired feelings on this one.
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PoopMcgee420
09/06/17 9:18:18 AM
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The Admiral posted...
NibeIungsnarf posted...
The Admiral posted...
If you're the one "punching the Nazi" who's out spouting his BS, congrats, you've created a situation in life where you are a shittier person than a Nazi.

That's a ridiculous thing to say. Someone who punches a nazi over their ideology is not a shittier person than someone who is a nazi.

How can you possibly defend that statement.


Yes, they in fact are. One is a violent criminal, the other is not.


Umm no admiral you're wrong here. Punching actual hateful racist people who promote violence and hatred is a great thing.


Punching someone who is a white conservative male and labeling him a nazi is wrong tho. (Which is how most liberals view white conservatives)
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darkjedilink
09/06/17 9:18:34 AM
#42:


The Admiral posted...
That_Happened posted...
*group of people point guns at other group of people*

"Ready!"
Admiral: It's just words! Do not respond with violence!
"Aiiiiim!"
Admiral: Hold on guys! It's just words!

*person punches gun holder*

Admiral: YOU'RE NO BETTER THAN THEY ARE!

"I need to make up a ridiculous strawman because I have no point otherwise."

What do you expect from a racist who literally defends race-based segregation?
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uwnim
09/06/17 9:19:03 AM
#43:


PoopMcgee420 posted...
uwnim posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
Except there is nothing inherently in communism that says 'commit genocide against innocents'.

That whole class warfare thing got retroactively removed from The Communist Manifesto?

Not genocide. Goal is to remove their power, killing them all is not required.


Anyways tc, Nazi punching is ok because of ww2, punching commies is not because of the Cold War.


Wow this post smells like bias ignorance

Anyway tc, Nazi punching is ok because of ww2, punching commies is ok because of ww2


Nah, my post is not at all serious. Well, the first part is, but it is also true.
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That_Happened
09/06/17 9:20:32 AM
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The Admiral posted...
You mean undo the hyperbolic and intellectually dishonest conflation you tried to do with WW2 Nazis?


Could you do me a favor and point out where I confused them with WW2 Nazis?

Secondly, could you explain why it matters at all if it's a WW2 Nazi or a 2017 Neo Nazi? Both groups advocate white supremacy and both groups are for the removal of people of color by force. The only difference is the former actually attempted it while the latter is just gearing up for it.
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DifferentialEquation
09/06/17 9:22:50 AM
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That_Happened posted...
The Admiral posted...
"I need to make up a ridiculous strawman because I have no point otherwise."


Ridiculous responses to your ridiculous statements. You set the bar, buddy.

And no, punching a Nazi doesn't make a person worse than being a Nazi. Calling for the alienation or death of other races means you're beyond horrible, to your core. Punching a shit tier human means you made a bad decision on the spur of the moment but it may not be representative of who you are as a person.


Where's the line at which punching someone for their hateful words leaves you as the better person in that scenario? How hateful do their words need to be?
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The Admiral
09/06/17 9:23:09 AM
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That_Happened posted...
Secondly, could you explain why it matters at all if it's a WW2 Nazi or a 2017 Neo Nazi? Both groups advocate white supremacy and both groups are for the removal of people of color by force. The only difference is the former actually attempted it while the latter is just gearing up for it.


This actually needs to be explained to you? At its simplest form, one group had the will and capability to actually commit said genocide. The other is a group of angry losers with no institutional power or mechanism to oppress anyone. If this difference is hard for you to understand, it might explain why you're struggling so much to get the rest.
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PoopMcgee420
09/06/17 9:25:36 AM
#47:


That_Happened posted...
The Admiral posted...
You mean undo the hyperbolic and intellectually dishonest conflation you tried to do with WW2 Nazis?


Could you do me a favor and point out where I confused them with WW2 Nazis?

Secondly, could you explain why it matters at all if it's a WW2 Nazi or a 2017 Neo Nazi? Both groups advocate white supremacy and both groups are for the removal of people of color by force. The only difference is the former actually attempted it while the latter is just gearing up for it.

The thing is the people on the left have a habit of calling every white person who disagrees with them a racist...

Seriously if you engage in a disagreement with a liberal and its about race ....9 out of 10 times they will call you a klansman, a nazi, or another racist group...

So when people say "punch a nazi" i sometimes wonder if they mean people who are actually racist or if they mean white dudes who voted for Trump....
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That_Happened
09/06/17 9:25:57 AM
#48:


The Admiral posted...
This actually needs to be explained to you? At its simplest form, one group had the will and capability to actually commit said genocide. The other is a group of angry losers with no institutional power or mechanism to oppress anyone.


So there is no real difference in their ideology, just a difference in their ability to carry out their goals on a large scale?
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gunplagirl
09/06/17 9:26:33 AM
#49:


The Admiral posted...
That_Happened posted...
Secondly, could you explain why it matters at all if it's a WW2 Nazi or a 2017 Neo Nazi? Both groups advocate white supremacy and both groups are for the removal of people of color by force. The only difference is the former actually attempted it while the latter is just gearing up for it.


This actually needs to be explained to you? At its simplest form, one group had the will and capability to actually commit said genocide. The other is a group of angry losers with no institutional power or mechanism to oppress anyone. If this difference is hard for you to understand, it might explain why you're struggling so much to get the rest.

No institutional power yet they have a death toll in the hundreds and they aren't even being observed by the government anymore as terrorist threats

Yet antifa who fights them are terrorists

Funny how that works. One might think it has to do with all the Nazi ties in politics but clearly I'm out of my mind
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The Admiral
09/06/17 9:29:19 AM
#50:


gunplagirl posted...
No institutional power yet they have a death toll in the hundreds and they aren't even being observed by the government anymore as terrorist threats


Not sure why that's surprising to you. Black gang members annually commit several thousand homicides, and they don't have institutional power either. Not to mention, you need to go back several decades to accumulate that death toll, and that's by lazily grouping all right-wing domestic violence under the same umbrella.

The fact that you really can't make an argument here without being hyperbolic or disingenuous is usually a red flag that you're on the wrong side of the issue.
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