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Darklit_Minuet
09/04/17 12:24:37 PM
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Have they said anything about fixing the battle system to what it used to be rather than the abomination we got in that trailer?
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Burgess
09/04/17 12:25:01 PM
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Nope.
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snesmaster40
09/04/17 12:31:22 PM
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Yes. CC2 was kicked off development and now Square Enix is making the game by themselves.
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Darklit_Minuet
09/04/17 12:32:35 PM
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snesmaster40 posted...
Yes. CC2 was kicked off development and now Square Enix is making the game by themselves.

Square Enix tends to make turn based games so now I'm hopeful they'll fix it :)
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DreadedWave
09/04/17 12:33:27 PM
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Darklit_Minuet posted...
snesmaster40 posted...
Yes. CC2 was kicked off development and now Square Enix is making the game by themselves.

Square Enix tends to make turn based games so now I'm hopeful they'll fix it :)

You don't want cover shoot FF7?
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DezCaughtIt
09/04/17 12:33:56 PM
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What is it with you people and assuming something that you don't like needs to be fixed simply because you don't like it?

Serious question. I have a friend who says this exact shit about games
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Darklit_Minuet
09/04/17 12:35:13 PM
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DezCaughtIt posted...
What is it with you people and assuming something that you don't like needs to be fixed simply because you don't like it?

Serious question. I have a friend who says this exact shit about games

In this case we know what the finished product should play like (the original version of FF7) and we've been given a trailer with far inferior gameplay. It's not unrealistic to think that it's wrong because it's an early demo
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DezCaughtIt
09/04/17 12:36:00 PM
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No, you don't.

It's a remake/reimagining, not a carbon copy upscale
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DreadedWave
09/04/17 12:36:20 PM
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DezCaughtIt posted...
What is it with you people and assuming something that you don't like needs to be fixed simply because you don't like it?

Because it's a remake? Why remake anything if you plan on drastically altering it?
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JosefuJustice11
09/04/17 12:36:41 PM
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They also said not to expect to hear anything for long time while they are switching to in-house development.
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Darklit_Minuet
09/04/17 12:36:58 PM
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DezCaughtIt posted...
No, you don't.

It's a remake/reimagining, not a carbon copy upscale

If you want to reimagine it, at least imagine a better system to use as opposed to an inferior one.
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DezCaughtIt
09/04/17 12:37:21 PM
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DreadedWave posted...
DezCaughtIt posted...
What is it with you people and assuming something that you don't like needs to be fixed simply because you don't like it?

Because it's a remake? Why remake anything if you plan on drastically altering it?

Again, and they've stated this, it's more of a reimagining than a carbon copy remake
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BoyOfBattle
09/04/17 12:37:46 PM
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it needs to be turn based, not this kingdom hearts shit
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BLAKUboy
09/04/17 12:38:26 PM
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DezCaughtIt posted...
Again, and they've stated this, it's more of a reimagining than a carbon copy remake

And that's exactly the problem. Nobody wanted a "reimagining", they wanted a remake.
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DezCaughtIt
09/04/17 12:40:31 PM
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But no what I'm talking about is a serious entitlement issue.


Like for example, this friend bitches about FFXV every day because Square is not "fixing" it, and his definition of fixing is rewriting the story, overhauling combat, and adding a god damn bestiary. What they put out is the finished product. What in the hell makes him think they're going to do any of that simply because he doesn't like thing? It's an attitude I've noticed a ton of people on this site have too
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itachi15243
09/04/17 12:40:59 PM
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DreadedWave posted...
DezCaughtIt posted...
What is it with you people and assuming something that you don't like needs to be fixed simply because you don't like it?

Because it's a remake? Why remake anything if you plan on drastically altering it?


You realize that most remakes of movies of movies and games that aren't​ just upscales are usually different, right?
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DreadedWave
09/04/17 12:43:55 PM
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itachi15243 posted...
You realize that most remakes of movies of movies and games that aren't​ just upscales are usually different, right?

And they're usually vastly inferior to the original, Psycho, The Haunting, etc
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DezCaughtIt
09/04/17 12:43:58 PM
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BLAKUboy posted...
DezCaughtIt posted...
Again, and they've stated this, it's more of a reimagining than a carbon copy remake

And that's exactly the problem. Nobody wanted a "reimagining", they wanted a remake.

They're the ones making it. They can do whatever they want. People will still buy it. VII's universe has been expanded upon a thousand times over since 1997. Anyone expecting a flat out remake was foolish
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Darklit_Minuet
09/04/17 1:10:25 PM
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It doesn't have to be a 1:1 remake. I just don't want a worse battle system. Why make something worse when you have the option to make it better or even reuse what you already have?
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Banjo2553
09/04/17 1:14:42 PM
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DreadedWave posted...
Because it's a remake? Why remake anything if you plan on drastically altering it?

Literally never heard anyone complain about Metroid Zero Mission.
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DezCaughtIt
09/04/17 1:29:09 PM
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Darklit_Minuet posted...
It doesn't have to be a 1:1 remake. I just don't want a worse battle system. Why make something worse when you have the option to make it better or even reuse what you already have?

It's in very, very early development. There's no telling how it'll end up
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CanuckCowboy
09/04/17 1:36:03 PM
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DezCaughtIt posted...
BLAKUboy posted...
DezCaughtIt posted...
Again, and they've stated this, it's more of a reimagining than a carbon copy remake

And that's exactly the problem. Nobody wanted a "reimagining", they wanted a remake.

They're the ones making it. They can do whatever they want. People will still buy it. VII's universe has been expanded upon a thousand times over since 1997. Anyone expecting a flat out remake was foolish


Yeah foolish to think they wouldn't be fuckin idiots. Seriously all they gotta do is remake it and they'll satisfy fans all over the world.
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DezCaughtIt
09/04/17 2:27:18 PM
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People are still going to buy it.

There's a shit ton of lore they're having to fit in now





It's never coming out anyway so idk why we're arguing
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KK_the_Slider
09/04/17 2:56:07 PM
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Banjo2553 posted...
DreadedWave posted...
Because it's a remake? Why remake anything if you plan on drastically altering it?

Literally never heard anyone complain about Metroid Zero Mission.

What drastic changes did they make besides adding a zero suit section at the end?
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Eevee-Trainer
09/04/17 3:03:07 PM
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Darklit_Minuet posted...
I just don't want a worse battle system

That is a matter of opinion, not of fact. Personally I like the battle system they presented more than ATB.
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Darklit_Minuet
09/04/17 3:22:21 PM
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Eevee-Trainer posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
I just don't want a worse battle system

That is a matter of opinion, not of fact. Personally I like the battle system they presented more than ATB.

Then you're not a true JRPG fan and your opinion is irrelevant :)
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Eevee-Trainer
09/04/17 3:29:55 PM
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Darklit_Minuet posted...
Eevee-Trainer posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
I just don't want a worse battle system

That is a matter of opinion, not of fact. Personally I like the battle system they presented more than ATB.

Then you're not a true JRPG fan and your opinion is irrelevant :)

Keep telling yourself that. :)
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spikethedevil
09/04/17 3:31:54 PM
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DezCaughtIt posted...
People are still going to buy it.

There's a shit ton of lore they're having to fit in now





It's never coming out anyway so idk why we're arguing


Can I borrow the time machine you apparently have?
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Holy_Cloud105
09/04/17 3:32:28 PM
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Why argue about a game that won't release until after humanity is extinct?
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Darklit_Minuet
09/04/17 3:32:54 PM
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Holy_Cloud105 posted...
Why argue about a game that won't release until after humanity is extinct?

We're not talking about Kingdom Hearts 3
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Holy_Cloud105
09/04/17 3:33:40 PM
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Darklit_Minuet posted...
Holy_Cloud105 posted...
Why argue about a game that won't release until after humanity is extinct?

We're not talking about Kingdom Hearts 3

Bad news for you then, FFVIIR isn't going to come out until after KH3 never does.
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MarqueeSeries
09/04/17 3:34:24 PM
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DreadedWave posted...
DezCaughtIt posted...
What is it with you people and assuming something that you don't like needs to be fixed simply because you don't like it?

Because it's a remake? Why remake anything if you plan on drastically altering it?

You should just call it a remaster then. A remake changes stuff
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spikethedevil
09/04/17 3:37:46 PM
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Except FFVII Remake is changing stuff so it's a remake. A remaster is the same game just prettied up a little bit.
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Bad_Mojo
09/04/17 3:40:14 PM
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I heard it's going to be pure shit because they changed the combat style

Source - Me
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BLAKUboy
09/04/17 3:41:37 PM
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Contrary to what some here seem to believe, "remake" does not mean "make a completely different product with little to no relation to the original". Any good remake will maintain the spirit of the original, while this game is doing the exact opposite.
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Bad_Mojo
09/04/17 3:42:08 PM
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BLAKUboy posted...
Contrary to what some here seem to believe, "remake" does not mean "make a completely different product with little to no relation to the original". Any good remake will maintain the spirit of the original, while this game is doing the exact opposite.


Facts
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Ulyanyx
09/04/17 3:46:41 PM
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DreadedWave posted...
DezCaughtIt posted...
What is it with you people and assuming something that you don't like needs to be fixed simply because you don't like it?

Because it's a remake? Why remake anything if you plan on drastically altering it?


why does hollywood remake stuff as gritty new reboots?
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spikethedevil
09/04/17 3:46:44 PM
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Changing the battle system does not = not keeping with the spirit of the original.
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Bad_Mojo
09/04/17 3:48:41 PM
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spikethedevil posted...
Changing the battle system does not = not keeping with the spirit of the original.


It's certainly the only reason I will not waste my time or money on the trash. Fuck them for what they're going with it.
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spikethedevil
09/04/17 3:50:38 PM
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So you know it's trash even without playing it? Ok then.
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Bad_Mojo
09/04/17 3:52:52 PM
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spikethedevil posted...
So you know it's trash even without playing it? Ok then.


Yes, because I don't like those games. XII, XIII, Type 0, Kingdom Hearts. I don't like action RPGs or shit like that, I like Turn-Based ATB, which is why I liked Final Fantasy VII. Drop that and the game can fuck off.

It's opinions
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BLAKUboy
09/04/17 3:53:06 PM
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Bad_Mojo posted...
spikethedevil posted...
Changing the battle system does not = not keeping with the spirit of the original.


It's certainly the only reason I will not waste my time or money on the trash. Fuck them for what they're going with it.

That and the episodic BS that literally confirms the game will never be finished once sales drop with the second episode. Assuming the first episode even gets enough sales to justify its own cost, which knowing SE it won't because they'll pump about 20x more money into this pile of shit than is needed.
Added with the fact there's no way they didn't lose money with Versus XIII effectively getting canned.
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spikethedevil
09/04/17 3:57:46 PM
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XII and XIII are turn based lol.

The episodic thing is the only thing annoying me,
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Bad_Mojo
09/04/17 4:00:20 PM
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spikethedevil posted...
XII and XIII are turn based lol.

The episodic thing is the only thing annoying me,


You're right, lol

>_<

They just felt like an Action RPG, at least 12 did. 13 was just god-awful
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BLAKUboy
09/04/17 4:01:30 PM
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XII is only barely turn-based. XIII just pretends it's not, because SE only cares about pretty visuals which turn-based isn't good for.
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ZombiePelican
09/04/17 4:20:21 PM
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You guys realize this game has to make back like 50 times the budget of the original FF7, right?

Turn based combat is slow, boring, and unappealing to most people and SquareEnix don't want to alienate a potential demographic who might buy their game.

It's simple logic people, if you were expecting/hoping for turn based combat you were only fooling yourself
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Yomi
09/04/17 4:23:46 PM
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Darklit_Minuet posted...
Eevee-Trainer posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
I just don't want a worse battle system

That is a matter of opinion, not of fact. Personally I like the battle system they presented more than ATB.

Then you're not a true JRPG fan and your opinion is irrelevant :)
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Eevee-Trainer
09/04/17 4:27:20 PM
#48:


Yomi posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
Eevee-Trainer posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
I just don't want a worse battle system

That is a matter of opinion, not of fact. Personally I like the battle system they presented more than ATB.

Then you're not a true JRPG fan and your opinion is irrelevant :)
Ah, the sweet smell of elitism.

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Is elitism in your cuppp~
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Bad_Mojo
09/04/17 4:54:06 PM
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ZombiePelican posted...
Turn based combat is slow, boring, and unappealing to most people and SquareEnix don't want to alienate a potential demographic who might buy their game.


How is this a valid opinion? It's the core reason why Final Fantasy got to big to begin with. If people thought they were slow and boring because of the combat, then no way Final Fantasy would have made it this far

ZombiePelican posted...
It's simple logic people, if you were expecting/hoping for turn based combat you were only fooling yourself


I knew it wasn't going to bring back the combat style because SE is a terrible company. I have zero interest in anything they do. I'm just saying that I will never play one of their games again until they can make a "real" RPG again
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ZombiePelican
09/04/17 5:41:00 PM
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Bad_Mojo posted...
How is this a valid opinion? It's the core reason why Final Fantasy got to big to begin with. If people thought they were slow and boring because of the combat, then no way Final Fantasy would have made it this far

Because the core audience won't be enough when Square spends 50+ million dollars on the game. I feel for you, I do. I'm a hardcore Devil May Cry fan how do you think I feel?
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