Current Events > The US govt killed more civilians this month than all European terrorist attacks

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Horus_Leftfield 08/31/17 8:04:29 PM #1:	in the past 12 years. In the last 12 years, terrorist attacks in Europe have killed 459 civilians. This month, the US killed 472 civilians in Syria alone. Maybe it's time to think about why people are radicalized to commit terrorist attacks. (Hint: Islam isn't even the main reason why, or the second reason, or the third.) --- "To be a poor man is hard, but to be a poor race in a land of dollars is the very bottom of hardships." -- W.E.B. Du Bois <cite>Horus_Leftfield posted [p:885805484] in The US gov... [t:75728720]...</cite> <quote>in the past 12 years. In the last 12 years, terrorist attacks in Europe have killed 459 civilians. This month, the US killed 472 civilians in Syria alone. Maybe it's time to think about why people are radicalized to commit terrorist attacks. (Hint: Islam isn't even the main reason why, or the second reason, or the third.)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kitt 08/31/17 8:06:29 PM #2:	Rookie User CE, don't... --- http://i.imgur.com/pmc9XsI.gif http://i.imgur.com/LkrRVe2.gifv http://i.imgur.com/Dp03g3y.jpg Cute? B**, I'm adorable. <cite>Kitt posted [p:885805573] in The US gov... [t:75728720]...</cite> <quote>Rookie User CE, don't...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pikachupwnage 08/31/17 8:08:13 PM #3:	Kitt posted... CE, don't... --- I'm Mary Poppins y'all. http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/665/328/d75.gif <cite>pikachupwnage posted [p:885805658] in The US gov... [t:75728720]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kitt posted...</cite> <quote>CE, don't...</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
treewojima 08/31/17 8:17:21 PM #4:	Kitt posted... CE, don't... but i wanna <cite>treewojima posted [p:885806115] in The US gov... [t:75728720]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kitt posted...</cite> <quote>CE, don't... </quote> but i wanna</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mikablu 08/31/17 8:18:16 PM #6:	<cite>Mikablu posted [p:885806159] in The US gov... [t:75728720]...</cite> <quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 08/31/17 8:18:23 PM #7:	Where's the lie? --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:885806165] in The US gov... [t:75728720]...</cite> <quote>Where's the lie?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1337toothbrush 08/31/17 8:18:37 PM #8:	It doesn't count because the US are the good guys. --- :D https://imgur.com/a/FU9H8 <cite>1337toothbrush posted [p:885806179] in The US gov... [t:75728720]...</cite> <quote>It doesn't count because the US are the good guys.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NadYobWoc 08/31/17 8:19:35 PM #9:	Kitt posted... Rookie User CE, don't... I don't see how his account age is relevant to his position. Does the fact that he's a rookie user mean the US doesn't murder large amounts of innocent people on a regular basis? --- Cowboy Dan's a major player in the cowboy scene <cite>NadYobWoc posted [p:885806224] in The US gov... [t:75728720]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kitt posted...</cite> <quote>Rookie User CE, don't...</quote> I don't see how his account age is relevant to his position. Does the fact that he's a rookie user mean the US doesn't murder large amounts of innocent people on a regular basis?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
alphagamble 08/31/17 8:20:04 PM #10:	What kind of name is Horus Leftfield? Is that a reference I'm missing? --- ooh <cite>alphagamble posted [p:885806249] in The US gov... [t:75728720]...</cite> <quote>What kind of name is Horus Leftfield? Is that a reference I'm missing?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212 08/31/17 8:20:38 PM #11:	Antifar posted... Where's the lie? --- I don't know my gimmick <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:885806276] in The US gov... [t:75728720]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>Where's the lie?</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Axiom 08/31/17 8:21:10 PM #12:	"They're all potential terrorists" - Some people's position on civilian deaths <cite>Axiom posted [p:885806301] in The US gov... [t:75728720]...</cite> <quote>"They're all potential terrorists" - Some people's position on civilian deaths</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kitt 08/31/17 8:21:17 PM #13:	NadYobWoc posted... Kitt posted... Rookie User CE, don't... Novice User Nice try. --- http://i.imgur.com/pmc9XsI.gif http://i.imgur.com/LkrRVe2.gifv http://i.imgur.com/Dp03g3y.jpg Cute? B**, I'm adorable. <cite>Kitt posted [p:885806307] in The US gov... [t:75728720]...</cite> <quote><cite>NadYobWoc posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kitt posted...</cite> <quote>Rookie User CE, don't...</quote> Novice User </quote> Nice try.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BLAKUboy 08/31/17 8:23:44 PM #14:	Imagine having to resort to trolling over user levels to hand wave mass genocide. --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera http://signavatar.com/26999_s.png <cite>BLAKUboy posted [p:885806435] in The US gov... [t:75728720]...</cite> <quote>Imagine having to resort to trolling over user levels to hand wave mass genocide.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
stealmypandas 08/31/17 8:23:55 PM #15:	don't do it! --- PSN: stealmypandas <cite>stealmypandas posted [p:885806443] in The US gov... [t:75728720]...</cite> <quote>don't do it!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CADE FOSTER 08/31/17 8:24:37 PM #16:	BLAKUboy posted... Imagine having to resort to trolling over user levels to hand wave mass genocide. --- http://i.imgur.com/fQ2zSjD.gif https://i.imgur.com/rUkYNB9.jpg https://i.imgur.com/wDVZCkd.gif https://i.imgur.com/VX0lMwY.jpg <cite>CADE FOSTER posted [p:885806480] in The US gov... [t:75728720]...</cite> <quote><cite>BLAKUboy posted...</cite> <quote>Imagine having to resort to trolling over user levels to hand wave mass genocide.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NadYobWoc 08/31/17 8:24:54 PM #17:	Kitt posted... NadYobWoc posted... Kitt posted... Rookie User CE, don't... Novice User Nice try. Are you implying I'm his alt? I'm CowboyDan, ive been here for like 7 years. CADE FOSTER posted... BLAKUboy posted... Imagine having to resort to trolling over user levels to hand wave mass genocide. --- Cowboy Dan's a major player in the cowboy scene <cite>NadYobWoc posted [p:885806496] in The US gov... [t:75728720]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kitt posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NadYobWoc posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kitt posted...</cite> <quote>Rookie User CE, don't...</quote> Novice User </quote> Nice try.</quote> Are you implying I'm his alt? I'm CowboyDan, ive been here for like 7 years. <cite>CADE FOSTER posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BLAKUboy posted...</cite> <quote>Imagine having to resort to trolling over user levels to hand wave mass genocide.</quote></quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kitt 08/31/17 8:26:04 PM #18:	stealmypandas posted... don't do it! --- http://i.imgur.com/pmc9XsI.gif http://i.imgur.com/LkrRVe2.gifv http://i.imgur.com/Dp03g3y.jpg Cute? B**, I'm adorable. <cite>Kitt posted [p:885806563] in The US gov... [t:75728720]...</cite> <quote><cite>stealmypandas posted...</cite> <quote>don't do it!</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NINExATExSEVEN 08/31/17 8:28:07 PM #19:	So the USA bombs Syria and the terrorists think "fuck America, let's kill Europeans!" Think about that for a second. --- Listen to my story... This... May be our last chance... Dubstep song of the week http://youtu.be/MmVHWPdI5d0 <cite>NINExATExSEVEN posted [p:885806688] in The US gov... [t:75728720]...</cite> <quote>So the USA bombs Syria and the terrorists think "fuck America, let's kill Europeans!" Think about that for a second.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 08/31/17 8:29:32 PM #20:	NINExATExSEVEN posted... So the USA bombs Syria and the terrorists think "fuck America, let's kill Europeans!" Think about that for a second. A bunch of Saudis hit the WTC and we went after Afghanistan. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:885806761] in The US gov... [t:75728720]...</cite> <quote><cite>NINExATExSEVEN posted...</cite> <quote>So the USA bombs Syria and the terrorists think "fuck America, let's kill Europeans!" Think about that for a second.</quote> A bunch of Saudis hit the WTC and we went after Afghanistan.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CADE FOSTER 08/31/17 8:29:33 PM #21:	NINExATExSEVEN posted... So the USA bombs Syria and the terrorists think "fuck America, let's kill Europeans!" Think about that for a second. They kill americas allies they are closer than america obviously --- http://i.imgur.com/fQ2zSjD.gif https://i.imgur.com/rUkYNB9.jpg https://i.imgur.com/wDVZCkd.gif https://i.imgur.com/VX0lMwY.jpg <cite>CADE FOSTER posted [p:885806762] in The US gov... [t:75728720]...</cite> <quote><cite>NINExATExSEVEN posted...</cite> <quote>So the USA bombs Syria and the terrorists think "fuck America, let's kill Europeans!" Think about that for a second.</quote> They kill americas allies they are closer than america obviously</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Axiom 08/31/17 8:29:56 PM #22:	Expect those numbers to rise as Trump ramps up the military efforts in Afghanistan too <cite>Axiom posted [p:885806775] in The US gov... [t:75728720]...</cite> <quote>Expect those numbers to rise as Trump ramps up the military efforts in Afghanistan too</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
boxington 08/31/17 8:30:39 PM #23:	Axiom posted... "They're all potential terrorists" - Some people's position on civilian deaths there's a poster on CE that justified innocents dying by saying that since women and children are sometimes used for terrorist attacks, and likely deserve it --- b-bb-box <cite>boxington posted [p:885806812] in The US gov... [t:75728720]...</cite> <quote><cite>Axiom posted...</cite> <quote>"They're all potential terrorists" - Some people's position on civilian deaths</quote> there's a poster on CE that justified innocents dying by saying that since women and children are sometimes used for terrorist attacks, and likely deserve it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NINExATExSEVEN 08/31/17 8:34:02 PM #24:	CADE FOSTER posted... NINExATExSEVEN posted... So the USA bombs Syria and the terrorists think "fuck America, let's kill Europeans!" Think about that for a second. They kill americas allies they are closer than america obviously Yea but allies aren't American. What does a random child in Europe have to do with Obama bombing Syria? Nothing, but terrorists are idiots so they kill anybody who is western to get back at America. --- Listen to my story... This... May be our last chance... Dubstep song of the week http://youtu.be/MmVHWPdI5d0 <cite>NINExATExSEVEN posted [p:885806984] in The US gov... [t:75728720]...</cite> <quote><cite>CADE FOSTER posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NINExATExSEVEN posted...</cite> <quote>So the USA bombs Syria and the terrorists think "fuck America, let's kill Europeans!" Think about that for a second.</quote> They kill americas allies they are closer than america obviously</quote> Yea but allies aren't American. What does a random child in Europe have to do with Obama bombing Syria? Nothing, but terrorists are idiots so they kill anybody who is western to get back at America.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
3rd_Best_Master 08/31/17 8:35:15 PM #25:	Antifar posted... NINExATExSEVEN posted... So the USA bombs Syria and the terrorists think "f* America, let's kill Europeans!" Think about that for a second. A bunch of Saudis hit the WTC and we went after Afghanistan. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.2 <cite>3rd_Best_Master posted [p:885807058] in The US gov... [t:75728720]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NINExATExSEVEN posted...</cite> <quote> So the USA bombs Syria and the terrorists think "f* America, let's kill Europeans!" Think about that for a second.</quote> A bunch of Saudis hit the WTC and we went after Afghanistan.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sativa_Rose 08/31/17 8:37:54 PM #26:	Antifar posted... NINExATExSEVEN posted... So the USA bombs Syria and the terrorists think "fuck America, let's kill Europeans!" Think about that for a second. A bunch of Saudis hit the WTC and we went after Afghanistan. This is an incredibly ignorant comment. al Qaeda was hiding in Afghanistan. Yes many of its people were ethnic Saudis, including Bin Laden himself, but they weren't operating out of Saudi Arabia. We went into Afghanistan to take out al Qaeda, and the Taliban government refused to hand them over and cooperate, so we decided to take them out too. We chased Bin Laden into the Tora Bora mountains in the months after 9/11, but we lost him after December 2001 because we fucked up. Watch this little TV documentary on it if you're curious, one of the special ops guys who was on the ground during all of this came forth about everything back in 2008. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmtPBTybQ9k --- I may not go down in history, but I will go down on your sister. <cite>Sativa_Rose posted [p:885807208] in The US gov... [t:75728720]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NINExATExSEVEN posted...</cite> <quote>So the USA bombs Syria and the terrorists think "fuck America, let's kill Europeans!" Think about that for a second.</quote> A bunch of Saudis hit the WTC and we went after Afghanistan.</quote> This is an incredibly ignorant comment. al Qaeda was hiding in Afghanistan. Yes many of its people were ethnic Saudis, including Bin Laden himself, but they weren't operating out of Saudi Arabia. We went into Afghanistan to take out al Qaeda, and the Taliban government refused to hand them over and cooperate, so we decided to take them out too. We chased Bin Laden into the Tora Bora mountains in the months after 9/11, but we lost him after December 2001 because we fucked up. Watch this little TV documentary on it if you're curious, one of the special ops guys who was on the ground during all of this came forth about everything back in 2008. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmtPBTybQ9k</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NadYobWoc 08/31/17 8:42:45 PM #27:	NINExATExSEVEN posted... So the USA bombs Syria and the terrorists think "fuck America, let's kill Europeans!" Think about that for a second. They likely view it as "the west", much like how dumb red necks often say we should "bomb the middle east". --- Cowboy Dan's a major player in the cowboy scene <cite>NadYobWoc posted [p:885807450] in The US gov... [t:75728720]...</cite> <quote><cite>NINExATExSEVEN posted...</cite> <quote>So the USA bombs Syria and the terrorists think "fuck America, let's kill Europeans!" Think about that for a second.</quote> They likely view it as "the west", much like how dumb red necks often say we should "bomb the middle east".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Axiom 08/31/17 8:44:11 PM #28:	NadYobWoc posted... NINExATExSEVEN posted... So the USA bombs Syria and the terrorists think "fuck America, let's kill Europeans!" Think about that for a second. They likely view it as "the west", much like how dumb red necks often say we should "bomb the middle east". This. An attack on a single country to them is a successful attack on the whole west <cite>Axiom posted [p:885807536] in The US gov... [t:75728720]...</cite> <quote><cite>NadYobWoc posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NINExATExSEVEN posted...</cite> <quote>So the USA bombs Syria and the terrorists think "fuck America, let's kill Europeans!" Think about that for a second.</quote> They likely view it as "the west", much like how dumb red necks often say we should "bomb the middle east".</quote> This. An attack on a single country to them is a successful attack on the whole west</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sativa_Rose 08/31/17 8:48:15 PM #29:	Btw the "moderate" Syrian rebels we've been supporting are basically just as bad as the terrorists. We just don't want to admit it. It was a mistake for Hillary Clinton to put the US in a position against Assad, back before ISIS splintered off from the "moderates" --- I may not go down in history, but I will go down on your sister. <cite>Sativa_Rose posted [p:885807754] in The US gov... [t:75728720]...</cite> <quote>Btw the "moderate" Syrian rebels we've been supporting are basically just as bad as the terrorists. We just don't want to admit it. It was a mistake for Hillary Clinton to put the US in a position against Assad, back before ISIS splintered off from the "moderates"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Glass_Phantom 08/31/17 9:50:22 PM #30:	We need to do more to avoid civilian causalities. That includes not outfitting and supporting brutal dictatorships. <cite>Glass_Phantom posted [p:885811047] in The US gov... [t:75728720]...</cite> <quote>We need to do more to avoid civilian causalities. That includes not outfitting and supporting brutal dictatorships.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Callixtus 08/31/17 9:52:44 PM #31:	Sativa_Rose posted... Btw the "moderate" Syrian rebels we've been supporting are basically just as bad as the terrorists. We just don't want to admit it. It was a mistake for Hillary Clinton to put the US in a position against Assad, back before ISIS splintered off from the "moderates" We pretty much have admitted it, or at least admitted it was a bad strategy. Trump put an end to it. Probably one of the few good things he's done. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/19/world/middleeast/cia-arming-syrian-rebels.html?mcubz=0 --- KhanofKhans, KhanJohnson, Saloonist, Basileos <cite>Callixtus posted [p:885811168] in The US gov... [t:75728720]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sativa_Rose posted...</cite> <quote>Btw the "moderate" Syrian rebels we've been supporting are basically just as bad as the terrorists. We just don't want to admit it. It was a mistake for Hillary Clinton to put the US in a position against Assad, back before ISIS splintered off from the "moderates"</quote> We pretty much have admitted it, or at least admitted it was a bad strategy. Trump put an end to it. Probably one of the few good things he's done. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/19/world/middleeast/cia-arming-syrian-rebels.html?mcubz=0</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CarlGrimes 08/31/17 10:42:01 PM #32:	Horus_Leftfield posted... Maybe it's time to think about why people are radicalized to commit terrorist attacks. (Hint: Islam isn't even the main reason why, or the second reason, or the third.) Lol ok. <cite>CarlGrimes posted [p:885813961] in The US gov... [t:75728720]...</cite> <quote><cite>Horus_Leftfield posted...</cite> <quote>Maybe it's time to think about why people are radicalized to commit terrorist attacks. (Hint: Islam isn't even the main reason why, or the second reason, or the third.)</quote> Lol ok.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sativa_Rose 08/31/17 10:47:09 PM #33:	Callixtus posted... Sativa_Rose posted... Btw the "moderate" Syrian rebels we've been supporting are basically just as bad as the terrorists. We just don't want to admit it. It was a mistake for Hillary Clinton to put the US in a position against Assad, back before ISIS splintered off from the "moderates" We pretty much have admitted it, or at least admitted it was a bad strategy. Trump put an end to it. Probably one of the few good things he's done. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/19/world/middleeast/cia-arming-syrian-rebels.html?mcubz=0 Good. It'll be awkward when Assad wins the war, but good. --- I may not go down in history, but I will go down on your sister. <cite>Sativa_Rose posted [p:885814231] in The US gov... [t:75728720]...</cite> <quote><cite>Callixtus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sativa_Rose posted...</cite> <quote>Btw the "moderate" Syrian rebels we've been supporting are basically just as bad as the terrorists. We just don't want to admit it. It was a mistake for Hillary Clinton to put the US in a position against Assad, back before ISIS splintered off from the "moderates"</quote> We pretty much have admitted it, or at least admitted it was a bad strategy. Trump put an end to it. Probably one of the few good things he's done. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/19/world/middleeast/cia-arming-syrian-rebels.html?mcubz=0</quote> Good. It'll be awkward when Assad wins the war, but good.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Horus_Leftfield 09/01/17 9:00:16 AM #34:	CarlGrimes posted... Horus_Leftfield posted... Maybe it's time to think about why people are radicalized to commit terrorist attacks. (Hint: Islam isn't even the main reason why, or the second reason, or the third.) Lol ok. Anything else to add? --- "To be a poor man is hard, but to be a poor race in a land of dollars is the very bottom of hardships." -- W.E.B. Du Bois <cite>Horus_Leftfield posted [p:885832664] in The US gov... [t:75728720]...</cite> <quote><cite>CarlGrimes posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Horus_Leftfield posted...</cite> <quote>Maybe it's time to think about why people are radicalized to commit terrorist attacks. (Hint: Islam isn't even the main reason why, or the second reason, or the third.)</quote> Lol ok.</quote> Anything else to add?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hortanz 09/02/17 11:55:44 PM #36:	BLAKUboy posted... Imagine having to resort to trolling over user levels to hand wave mass genocide. this y i k e s --- http://i.imgur.com/JFmtaHB.gif <cite>hortanz posted [p:885928322] in The US gov... [t:75728720]...</cite> <quote><cite>BLAKUboy posted...</cite> <quote>Imagine having to resort to trolling over user levels to hand wave mass genocide.</quote> this y i k e s</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 09/02/17 11:57:20 PM #37:	holy shit CE gets more disgustingly repulsive every day imagine ignoring mass genocide because of someones level on a gamefaqs message board imagine being that repulsively evil --- http://www.imgur.com/oQHLBrx.jpg http://www.imgur.com/ah5IE8D.jpg http://www.imgur.com/USV84z9.jpg http://www.imgur.com/PSjlohO.jpg <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:885928396] in The US gov... [t:75728720]...</cite> <quote>holy shit CE gets more disgustingly repulsive every day imagine ignoring mass genocide because of someones level on a gamefaqs message board imagine being that repulsively evil</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FluttershyPony 09/03/17 12:00:20 AM #38:	>syria >civilians <cite>FluttershyPony posted [p:885928530] in The US gov... [t:75728720]...</cite> <quote>>syria >civilians</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
3rd_Best_Master 09/03/17 12:03:07 AM #39:	FluttershyPony posted... >syria >civilians Love and friendship, except for brown people. --- You've fought the strongest, the second strongest, the fourth strongest, and the weakest master! Now you see the true advantage of being third strongest master! <cite>3rd_Best_Master posted [p:885928657] in The US gov... [t:75728720]...</cite> <quote><cite>FluttershyPony posted...</cite> <quote>>syria >civilians</quote> Love and friendship, except for brown people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DonaldClinton 09/03/17 12:03:54 AM #40:	I'm glad our government is protecting freedom around the globe. USA! USA! <cite>DonaldClinton posted [p:885928691] in The US gov... [t:75728720]...</cite> <quote>I'm glad our government is protecting freedom around the globe. USA! USA!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DirkDiggles 09/03/17 12:18:19 AM #41:	3rd_Best_Master posted... Love and friendship, except for brown people. --- http://i.imgur.com/jJ4fn99.gif http://i.imgur.com/Boxw8r4.gif <cite>DirkDiggles posted [p:885929304] in The US gov... [t:75728720]...</cite> <quote><cite>3rd_Best_Master posted...</cite> <quote>Love and friendship, except for brown people.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BillWardsPants 09/03/17 12:24:11 AM #42:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQRiO1ihcQA --- As a wise man once said, "Fool me once, shame on...shame on you. Fool me... you can't get fooled again." <cite>BillWardsPants posted [p:885929565] in The US gov... [t:75728720]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQRiO1ihcQA</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paper_Okami 09/03/17 12:31:19 AM #43:	BLAKUboy posted... Imagine having to resort to trolling over user levels to hand wave mass genocide. --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie <cite>Paper_Okami posted [p:885929843] in The US gov... [t:75728720]...</cite> <quote><cite>BLAKUboy posted...</cite> <quote>Imagine having to resort to trolling over user levels to hand wave mass genocide.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ModLogic 09/03/17 12:31:53 AM #44:	NadYobWoc posted... Kitt posted... Rookie User CE, don't... I don't see how his account age is relevant to his position. Does the fact that he's a rookie user mean the US doesn't murder large amounts of innocent people on a regular basis? basically the muricans dont engage with facts that make them look bad. if they don't acknowledge it, it goes away. look at how they handled the kunduz hospital bombing. silence silence silence until people forget. --- http://i.imgur.com/hEL2qQYh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/lbSi0U3.png http://i.imgur.com/FA2GxDS.jpg http://i.imgur.com/xaRYKZM.png http://i.imgur.com/ZngbqJn.jpg <cite>ModLogic posted [p:885929860] in The US gov... [t:75728720]...</cite> <quote><cite>NadYobWoc posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kitt posted...</cite> <quote>Rookie User CE, don't...</quote> I don't see how his account age is relevant to his position. Does the fact that he's a rookie user mean the US doesn't murder large amounts of innocent people on a regular basis?</quote> basically the muricans dont engage with facts that make them look bad. if they don't acknowledge it, it goes away. look at how they handled the kunduz hospital bombing. silence silence silence until people forget.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
snake1989 09/03/17 12:54:26 AM #45:	TC seems like a troll, but since there are people in this topic acting like the numbers he posted are real without any sources, I'll post some actual sources. The US has confirmed the death of 685 civilians between Syria and Iraq since the recent conflict began in August 2014: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-civilian-deaths/u-s-led-forces-acknowledge-killing-61-more-civilians-in-iraq-syria-idUSKCN1BC4O1 And some quick math based on what's listed here, Islamic terrorism has killed roughly 460 civilians in Europe in the same period of time (440ish if you decide to start counting from August, so it lines up more exactly with the US-Syria conflict): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_terrorism_in_Europe_(2014%E2%80%93present) Yes, the US has killed more civilians in Syria than Islamic terrorists have killed in Europe since 2014. Has it killed more in 1 month than were killed in 12 years? False as hell. And this doesn't even count the number of deaths in the Islamic world or US due to Islamic extremism. Or contend with the issue that a country who ends up accidentally killing civilians as collateral damage, as unsavory as that is, is very ideologically different from a group of radicalized zealots who act specifically with the goal of killing as many innocent people as possible (and innocent people not even from the country who is bombing them, for that matter). The former can be rightfully criticized for their failures relative to their stated goal of killing terrorists and restoring order, whereas the latter group's killings of innocents would to them be considered a huge success based on their own stated goals. --- "A man chooses. A slave obeys."-Andrew Ryan <cite>snake1989 posted [p:885930745] in The US gov... [t:75728720]...</cite> <quote>TC seems like a troll, but since there are people in this topic acting like the numbers he posted are real without any sources, I'll post some actual sources. The US has confirmed the death of 685 civilians between Syria and Iraq since the recent conflict began in August 2014: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-civilian-deaths/u-s-led-forces-acknowledge-killing-61-more-civilians-in-iraq-syria-idUSKCN1BC4O1 And some quick math based on what's listed here, Islamic terrorism has killed roughly 460 civilians in Europe in the same period of time (440ish if you decide to start counting from August, so it lines up more exactly with the US-Syria conflict): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_terrorism_in_Europe_(2014%E2%80%93present) Yes, the US has killed more civilians in Syria than Islamic terrorists have killed in Europe since 2014. Has it killed more in 1 month than were killed in 12 years? False as hell. And this doesn't even count the number of deaths in the Islamic world or US due to Islamic extremism. Or contend with the issue that a country who ends up accidentally killing civilians as collateral damage, as unsavory as that is, is very ideologically different from a group of radicalized zealots who act specifically with the goal of killing as many innocent people as possible (and innocent people not even from the country who is bombing them, for that matter). The former can be rightfully criticized for their failures relative to their stated goal of killing terrorists and restoring order, whereas the latter group's killings of innocents would to them be considered a huge success based on their own stated goals.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ModLogic 09/03/17 1:57:09 AM #46:	snake1989 posted... The US has confirmed stopped reading right there --- http://i.imgur.com/hEL2qQYh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/lbSi0U3.png http://i.imgur.com/FA2GxDS.jpg http://i.imgur.com/xaRYKZM.png http://i.imgur.com/ZngbqJn.jpg <cite>ModLogic posted [p:885932756] in The US gov... [t:75728720]...</cite> <quote><cite>snake1989 posted...</cite> <quote>The US has confirmed</quote> stopped reading right there</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
snake1989 09/03/17 2:41:25 AM #47:	ModLogic posted... snake1989 posted... The US has confirmed stopped reading right there Alright, then let's consider the highest number of casualties reported by any tracking agency to date: "The military recently confirmed that American-led airstrikes had been responsible for at least 352 civilian deaths since the start of the war against the Islamic State. But Airwars estimated that the total was eight times higher. The group found that at least 3,100 civilians were killed in American-led airstrikes from August 2014 to March 2017." https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/14/world/middleeast/syria-airstrikes-civilians.html?mcubz=1 Sounds pretty awful, and if those numbers are accurate, they are deplorable and the US can do better and should be held to a higher standard. But those estimates are also 3 times that of the Syrian Network for Human Rights (http://orient-news.net/en/news_show/136037/0/SNHR-US-coalition-strikes-killed-at-least-civilians), and 8 times higher than the US Military estimates, so I don't think they should be taken as certain since there is such a disparity and this is a difficult statistic to track. But let's assume that this 3,100 civilian deaths over 3 years is 100% accurate. Even that figure is still dwarfed by, for example, the death toll Isis inflicted upon Iraq in a shorter 2 year period, estimated at 18,800 deaths, 36,245 injured, and 3500 taken into slavery: https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/isis-terror/isis-death-toll-18-800-killed-iraq-2-years-u-n499426 The difference in outcome between trying to avoid killing civilians and trying deliberately to kill them is pretty profound. --- "A man chooses. A slave obeys."-Andrew Ryan <cite>snake1989 posted [p:885933930] in The US gov... [t:75728720]...</cite> <quote><cite>ModLogic posted...</cite> <quote><cite>snake1989 posted...</cite> <quote>The US has confirmed</quote> stopped reading right there</quote> Alright, then let's consider the highest number of casualties reported by any tracking agency to date: "The military recently confirmed that American-led airstrikes had been responsible for at least 352 civilian deaths since the start of the war against the Islamic State. But Airwars estimated that the total was eight times higher. The group found that at least 3,100 civilians were killed in American-led airstrikes from August 2014 to March 2017." https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/14/world/middleeast/syria-airstrikes-civilians.html?mcubz=1 Sounds pretty awful, and if those numbers are accurate, they are deplorable and the US can do better and should be held to a higher standard. But those estimates are also 3 times that of the Syrian Network for Human Rights (http://orient-news.net/en/news_show/136037/0/SNHR-US-coalition-strikes-killed-at-least-civilians), and 8 times higher than the US Military estimates, so I don't think they should be taken as certain since there is such a disparity and this is a difficult statistic to track. But let's assume that this 3,100 civilian deaths over 3 years is 100% accurate. Even that figure is still dwarfed by, for example, the death toll Isis inflicted upon Iraq in a shorter 2 year period, estimated at 18,800 deaths, 36,245 injured, and 3500 taken into slavery: https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/isis-terror/isis-death-toll-18-800-killed-iraq-2-years-u-n499426 The difference in outcome between trying to avoid killing civilians and trying deliberately to kill them is pretty profound.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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