Current Events > L.A. Votes to Replace Columbus Day With Indigenous Peoples Day

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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/l-votes-replace-columbus-day-indigenous-peoples-day-n797596?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma

The City Council has voted to replace Columbus Day with Indigenous Peoples Day as an official Los Angeles holiday.

Councilmembers voted 14-1 to make the second Monday in October a day to commemorate indigenous, aboriginal and native people. It will be a paid holiday for city employees.

Councilman Mitch O'Farrell, a member of the Wyandotte Nation tribe, pushed for the switch. Some activists view Christopher Columbus as a symbol of genocide for native peoples.

Councilman Joe Buscaino was the lone "no" vote on Wednesday. He sided with Italian-Americans, who view Columbus Day as a celebration of their national heritage.

Los Angeles joins San Francisco and several other cities nationwide in honoring native Americans in lieu of Columbus.

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No thanks.
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but mah history!
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Johnny_Nutcase posted...

No thanks.

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Good, Columbus was a moron, and a ruthless killer.
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Good that dude was te devil
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Right on
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I'm glad
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ok with this

But how many of those people get the day off?
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Antifar posted...

It will be a paid holiday for city employees.

All I care about tbh.
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EyeWontBeFooled posted...

Good, Columbus was a moron, and a ruthless killer.

He was also quite bold and did something no one in history had ever really done before. Gone to America and stayed.

He also died over 500 years ago and probably only interacted with a few Indian tribes that don't even constitute 1% of all the tribes and nations out there. Why do people treat him as if he murdered every Indian he saw with his own hands last week?
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Sounds good.
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I don't have any issues with this one.
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Callixtus posted...

EyeWontBeFooled posted...

Good, Columbus was a moron, and a ruthless killer.

He was also quite bold and did something no one in history had ever really done before. Gone to America and stayed.

He also died over 500 years ago and probably only interacted with a few Indian tribes that don't even constitute 1% of all the tribes and nations out there. Why do people treat him as if he murdered every Indian he saw with his own hands last week?

The diseases him and his people brought that the indigenous people didnt have immunity to killed alot of people
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Give it to the Vikings
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14-1

Lmao!

California, I swear to God.
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Honestly I don't care so long as it's still a paid vacation day.
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CADE FOSTER posted...

Callixtus posted...

EyeWontBeFooled posted...

Good, Columbus was a moron, and a ruthless killer.

He was also quite bold and did something no one in history had ever really done before. Gone to America and stayed.

He also died over 500 years ago and probably only interacted with a few Indian tribes that don't even constitute 1% of all the tribes and nations out there. Why do people treat him as if he murdered every Indian he saw with his own hands last week?

The diseases him and his people brought that the indigenous people didnt have immunity to killed alot of people

A 5 year old child would have done the same thing. It wasn't the European's fault that the Indians had no immunity. Sad to say, but contact between Europe and the Americas was probably inevitable, which meant the deaths of millions of Indians was inevitable. It didn't matter who came.
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Callixtus posted...

EyeWontBeFooled posted...

Good, Columbus was a moron, and a ruthless killer.

He was also quite bold and did something no one in history had ever really done before. Gone to America and stayed.

He also died over 500 years ago and probably only interacted with a few Indian tribes that don't even constitute 1% of all the tribes and nations out there. Why do people treat him as if he murdered every Indian he saw with his own hands last week?

He basically oversaw the genocide of native people where ever he went, not to mention he basically started the Atlantic Slave Trade.

Also even in his own time he was noted for being cruel. It's not some revisionist history.
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I'd be more impressed if they just canned the paid day off (which let's face it, it's all it is to 99.9% of the population) instead of replacing it with some other lame excuse to to go "pay me to stay home".
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I'm curious, is America the only Country in the world that gets shit on for winning their land in a war?
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Bad_Mojo posted...

I'm curious, is America the only Country in the world that gets shit on for winning their land in a war?

Columbus was an American?

And no, I'm pretty sure colonialism and imperialism have been criticized around the world for good reason.
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I'm okay with this but would have rather added another holiday tbh.
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LOL California
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iron jojo posted...

I'm okay with this but would have rather added another holiday tbh.

Can always rename the day and add another one as well.
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Before people say "Lol so blue California", South Dakota has had it this way for years.
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fair
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Bio1590 posted...

Also even in his own time he was noted for being cruel. It's not some revisionist history.

that's the biggest issue. he was considered cruel at a time where they thought slavery was fine
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BootyGif posted...

Give it to the Vikings

Leif Erikson Day

Bio1590 posted...

Callixtus posted...

EyeWontBeFooled posted...

Good, Columbus was a moron, and a ruthless killer.

He was also quite bold and did something no one in history had ever really done before. Gone to America and stayed.

He also died over 500 years ago and probably only interacted with a few Indian tribes that don't even constitute 1% of all the tribes and nations out there. Why do people treat him as if he murdered every Indian he saw with his own hands last week?

He basically oversaw the genocide of native people where ever he went, not to mention he basically started the Atlantic Slave Trade.

Also even in his own time he was noted for being cruel. It's not some revisionist history.

Where's the evidence that Columbus intentionally sought to destroy Native American populations that he encountered?

Do you have a source that shows Columbus started the Atlantic Slave Trade in any meaningful sense?

Also yes, he was brutal, but lots of people in history that we honor are brutal men. Look at Sherman who set about to destroy the state of Georgia, or Teddy Roosevelt, who glorified killing other men. And these are people from relatively recent history. Columbus is from the Middle Ages. It's been 500 years.
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this is a good thing, and the fact that it has the usual suspects triggered is proof positive of that
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Callixtus posted...

Columbus is from the Middle Ages. It's been 500 years.

er, no, Renaissance
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Callixtus posted...

Where's the evidence that Columbus intentionally sought to destroy Native American populations that he encountered?

He wrote back to the king of Spain that the Taino Indians were perfect slave material. One of his firsts acts upon encountering a native woman was to invite her onto his ship and try to force her to have sex with his men. After she resisted he beat her mercilessly until the fight went out of her, then passed her around to his crew. This is all available with only a cursory glance at his own writings about his encounters once he discovered the new world.
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A_Good_Boy posted...

Callixtus posted...

Where's the evidence that Columbus intentionally sought to destroy Native American populations that he encountered?

He wrote back to the king of Spain that the Taino Indians were perfect slave material. One of his firsts acts upon encountering a native woman was to invite her onto his ship and try to force her to have sex with his men. After she resisted he beat her mercilessly until the fight went out of her, then passed her around to his crew. This is all available with only a cursory glance at his own writings about his encounters once he discovered the new world.

Sounds like libby hippy SJW fake news
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Don't they have absurd traffic and homeless in the city to worry about?

EnterTheTekken posted...

Don't they have absurd traffic and homeless in the city to worry about?

Yes this is definitely taking away from attention that could be given to those issues. You got it.
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EnterTheTekken posted...

Don't they have absurd traffic and homeless in the city to worry about?

the government can only work with one issue at a time
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JohnLennon6 posted...

RebelElite791 posted...

A_Good_Boy posted...

Callixtus posted...

Where's the evidence that Columbus intentionally sought to destroy Native American populations that he encountered?

He wrote back to the king of Spain that the Taino Indians were perfect slave material. One of his firsts acts upon encountering a native woman was to invite her onto his ship and try to force her to have sex with his men. After she resisted he beat her mercilessly until the fight went out of her, then passed her around to his crew. This is all available with only a cursory glance at his own writings about his encounters once he discovered the new world.

Sounds like libby hippy SJW fake news

Except I'm saying it ironically to mock people like you Hoth.
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JohnLennon6 posted...

RebelElite791 posted...

A_Good_Boy posted...

Callixtus posted...

Where's the evidence that Columbus intentionally sought to destroy Native American populations that he encountered?

He wrote back to the king of Spain that the Taino Indians were perfect slave material. One of his firsts acts upon encountering a native woman was to invite her onto his ship and try to force her to have sex with his men. After she resisted he beat her mercilessly until the fight went out of her, then passed her around to his crew. This is all available with only a cursory glance at his own writings about his encounters once he discovered the new world.

Sounds like libby hippy SJW fake news

You misread the shit out of that quote, Hoth.
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Not american but if he didnt exist wouldnt you guys like not exist? At least not as a 1st world modern nation anyways
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Ex-Kefiroth posted...

Columbus Day ought to be scrapped as a national holiday altogether and we should have Election Day elevated to holiday status to replace it.

I actually don't mind that. Election Day is much more significant and there is a greater need for people to be off work that day.
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People literally so dumb that they oppose honoring a guy who they owe their existence in this country to. Columbus wasn't a great guy, but all of us (Americans) are here because of him.
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Look as long as I get my day off
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WizardPowers posted...

Not american but if he didnt exist wouldnt you guys like not exist? At least not as a 1st world modern nation anyways

Seafaring technology didn't improve because of Columbus. Many more explorers made actual discovers surrounding the New World other than merely being the first to report back. What Columbus "accomplished" would have easily been accomplished by someone else with enough time.
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chill02 posted...

Callixtus posted...

Columbus is from the Middle Ages. It's been 500 years.

er, no, Renaissance

Columbus sits right at the precipice of either era. It's perfectly valid to say he is from the Late Middle Ages or the Renaissance period.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Middle_Ages
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lightwarrior78 posted...

I'd be more impressed if they just canned the paid day off (which let's face it, it's all it is to 99.9% of the population) instead of replacing it with some other lame excuse to to go "pay me to stay home".

Wow, this is the worst take of this topic.
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Callixtus posted...

Bio1590 posted...

Callixtus posted...

EyeWontBeFooled posted...

Good, Columbus was a moron, and a ruthless killer.

He was also quite bold and did something no one in history had ever really done before. Gone to America and stayed.

He also died over 500 years ago and probably only interacted with a few Indian tribes that don't even constitute 1% of all the tribes and nations out there. Why do people treat him as if he murdered every Indian he saw with his own hands last week?

He basically oversaw the genocide of native people where ever he went, not to mention he basically started the Atlantic Slave Trade.

Also even in his own time he was noted for being cruel. It's not some revisionist history.

Where's the evidence that Columbus intentionally sought to destroy Native American populations that he encountered?

Do you have a source that shows Columbus started the Atlantic Slave Trade in any meaningful sense?

Also yes, he was brutal, but lots of people in history that we honor are brutal men. Look at Sherman who set about to destroy the state of Georgia, or Teddy Roosevelt, who glorified killing other men. And these are people from relatively recent history. Columbus is from the Middle Ages. It's been 500 years.

Ohhh no! You can't say that! He was basically the devil himself! 500 years ago doesn't mean anything! Sure I like living in America but it could have been done differently.. if only someone else discovered it! Maybe or maybe not I'd even be alive, it doesn't matter!

#ResistTrump #ResistHistory
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As a citizen of Los Angeles, I am embarrassed by the actions of my elected officials, and I apologize to the rest of the nation on their behalf.

I try my best to keep things sane every election, but alas, I am outnumbered by idiots.
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